From: owner-trektrade-digest@lists.xmission.com (trektrade-digest) To: trektrade-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: trektrade-digest V98 #109 Reply-To: Enter_E-Mail_Address Sender: owner-trektrade-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-trektrade-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk trektrade-digest Wednesday, May 27 1998 Volume 98 : Number 109 Digest, Archive and Unsubscribe information can be found at the bottom of this message. -- (TrekTrade) Trading Mirrors/autos (TrekTrade) variants (TrekTrade) tradincrds@aol.com (TrekTrade) Re: Glen Frohman Re: (TrekTrade) LIES... Re: (TrekTrade) Please read <- not an ad -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 19:05:13 -0400 From: Lynne Stewart Subject: (TrekTrade) Trading Mirrors/autos Anyone pull more then one Mirror?? I have a Mirror Spock, I was hoping to trade! My heart is set on a Kirk..but....!! Lynne - -- James & Lynne Stewart http://www.jklm.net/index.html KLM Enterprises, Inc. 2805 Oakcliff Ct Johnson City, TN 37601 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Home of the AMOK TIMES NEWSLETTER-Info on Star Trek Collectibles KLM CARDS-Trek cards and stuff for sale! Online consignment AUCTIONNE for Star Trek Collectibles The Extremely Unofficial SHAQ Rookie Page ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ - ---------------------------------------------------------------- TrekTrade is also available in a digest format. To Subscribe to TrekTrade-digest send and put "subscribe trektrade-digest" in the body without the quotes. - -- To Unsubscribe from TrekTrade send and put "unsubscribe trektrade" in the body without the quotes. - -- Previous message archives are available via WWW at: or via FTP at: ftp.xmission.com --in-- /home/ftp/pub/lists/trektrade/archive ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 00:01:49 -0400 From: Lynne Stewart Subject: (TrekTrade) variants Anyone get a Scotty auto signed in blue ink for either TOS I or II??? Lynne - -- James & Lynne Stewart http://www.jklm.net/index.html KLM Enterprises, Inc. 2805 Oakcliff Ct Johnson City, TN 37601 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Home of the AMOK TIMES NEWSLETTER-Info on Star Trek Collectibles KLM CARDS-Trek cards and stuff for sale! Online consignment AUCTIONNE for Star Trek Collectibles The Extremely Unofficial SHAQ Rookie Page ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ - ---------------------------------------------------------------- TrekTrade is also available in a digest format. To Subscribe to TrekTrade-digest send and put "subscribe trektrade-digest" in the body without the quotes. - -- To Unsubscribe from TrekTrade send and put "unsubscribe trektrade" in the body without the quotes. - -- Previous message archives are available via WWW at: or via FTP at: ftp.xmission.com --in-- /home/ftp/pub/lists/trektrade/archive ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 04:04:15 GMT From: thunderchild@hawgwild.com (Mitch Obrecht) Subject: (TrekTrade) tradincrds@aol.com - -> Hi! I have some more information and tactics of Glen Frohman, the master - -> fraud. He's - -> scammed many people and he is still trying to pull his bit. Here's a - -> record of a possible - -> trade he was going to do last month: Let me support this ... I ordered a videotape of a nine inch nails concerts and sent my money to Kristy's address .... That was on April 14th ... After repeated emails of them trying to say they never got it, I got another saying they had gotten it within a few days and already shipped my tape. The next email said they never got the $$$. All I can say is that they deserve whatever they get. I certainly couldn't live with myself if I were pulled the scams they are. - ---------------------------------------------------------------- TrekTrade is also available in a digest format. To Subscribe to TrekTrade-digest send and put "subscribe trektrade-digest" in the body without the quotes. - -- To Unsubscribe from TrekTrade send and put "unsubscribe trektrade" in the body without the quotes. - -- Previous message archives are available via WWW at: or via FTP at: ftp.xmission.com --in-- /home/ftp/pub/lists/trektrade/archive ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 22:02:52 -0500 From: "Rudi Giron" Subject: (TrekTrade) Re: Glen Frohman Dear Jim, How can we remove this Frohman character from Trek Trade and prevent him from accessing the site anymore. I, for one, will do whatever i can (including petitions) to keep him from conning anymore of us. Got any suggestions? Sincerely, Rudi Chiantu@msn.com - -----Original Message----- From: Mitch Obrecht To: trektrade@xmission.com Date: Wednesday, May 27, 1998 11:07 PM Subject: (TrekTrade) tradincrds@aol.com >-> Hi! I have some more information and tactics of Glen Frohman, the master >-> fraud. He's >-> scammed many people and he is still trying to pull his bit. Here's a >-> record of a possible >-> trade he was going to do last month: >Let me support this ... I ordered a videotape of a nine inch nails >concerts and sent my money to Kristy's address .... That was on April >14th ... After repeated emails of them trying to say they never got it, >I got another saying they had gotten it within a few days and already >shipped my tape. The next email said they never got the $$$. All I can >say is that they deserve whatever they get. I certainly couldn't live >with myself if I were pulled the scams they are. > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------- >TrekTrade is also available in a digest format. >To Subscribe to TrekTrade-digest >send >and put "subscribe trektrade-digest" >in the body without the quotes. >-- >To Unsubscribe from TrekTrade >send >and put "unsubscribe trektrade" >in the body without the quotes. >-- >Previous message archives are available via WWW at: > >or via FTP at: >ftp.xmission.com --in-- /home/ftp/pub/lists/trektrade/archive > > - ---------------------------------------------------------------- TrekTrade is also available in a digest format. To Subscribe to TrekTrade-digest send and put "subscribe trektrade-digest" in the body without the quotes. - -- To Unsubscribe from TrekTrade send and put "unsubscribe trektrade" in the body without the quotes. - -- Previous message archives are available via WWW at: or via FTP at: ftp.xmission.com --in-- /home/ftp/pub/lists/trektrade/archive ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 01:02:28 EDT From: Subject: Re: (TrekTrade) LIES... In a message dated 98-05-28 00:07:38 EDT, THUNDERCHILD writes: >-> Hi! I have some more information and tactics of Glen Frohman, the master >-> fraud. He's >-> scammed many people and he is still trying to pull his bit. Here's a >-> record of a possible >-> trade he was going to do last month: ...THERE WAS NEVER ANYONE SCAMMED BY ME... >Let me support this ... I ordered a videotape of a nine inch nails >concerts and sent my money to Kristy's address .... That was on April >14th ... After repeated emails of them trying to say they never got it, ...WELL IF I SAY I NEVER GOT THE MONEY.. IT MEANS I NEVER DID... U WOULD HAVE A CANCELLED CHECK IF I HAD GOTTEN IT... WOULDNT U??? >I got another saying they had gotten it within a few days and already >shipped my tape. The next email said they never got the $$$. All I can >say is that they deserve whatever they get. I certainly couldn't live >with myself if I were pulled the scams they are. ....I HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH MANY MANY PEOPLE ONLINE AND IN THE TRADING WORLD.. AND ON EBAY.. AND I HAVENT HAD THE PROBLEMS U SEEM TO WANT EVERYONE TO THINK I HAVE.. I HAVE BEEN SELLING TAPES AUDIO AND VIDEO.. FOR ALMOST 20 YEARS NOW.. I STARTED IN FEBRUARY OF 1980... AND I HAVE BEEN DOING MAIL ORDER WITH THEM SINCE ABOUT MID 85... IF I GET A CHECK OR MONEY ORDER ... I SEND THE TAPES... BUT.. INTERESTING NOTE... THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I HAVE HEARD ABOUT THIS SUPPOSED ORDER IN ABOUT A MONTH OR TWO.. I HAVENT GOTTEN ANY CHECK OR MONEY ORDER FROM U... AND HAVE NO IDEA WHY U WOULD EXPECT ME TO SEND U ANY THING UNTIL I GOT ONE... IF U HAVE A CANCELLED CHECK XEROX IT AND SEND IT TO ME.. IF I HAVE SIGNED IT.. AND IT HAS BEEN CASHED.. I WILL SEND U THE TAPE U ORDERED... OF COURSE... I DEFY THAT TO HAPPEN THO.. SINCE I HAVE ONLY HAD ONE ORDER FOR A NIN TAPE IN THE LAST 8 YEARS.. AND IT WASNT U... IF U WISH TO FLAME SOMEONE.. I DONT THINK THIS IS THE PLACE.. BUT THEN... THATS UP TO U.. AND JIM... I WOULD IMAGINE.. - ---------------------------------------------------------------- TrekTrade is also available in a digest format. To Subscribe to TrekTrade-digest send and put "subscribe trektrade-digest" in the body without the quotes. - -- To Unsubscribe from TrekTrade send and put "unsubscribe trektrade" in the body without the quotes. - -- Previous message archives are available via WWW at: or via FTP at: ftp.xmission.com --in-- /home/ftp/pub/lists/trektrade/archive ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 01:37:02 EDT From: Subject: Re: (TrekTrade) Please read <- not an ad In a message dated 98-05-27 15:57:05 EDT, WILLYEE writes: > If this all sounds familiar, let me know. I know it does to me, as I've >heard >this bit before. Yet again, please do not trade with this person. I'm >still >waiting for his items since February. If somebody can check up on his refs >on>AOL, that would be great. This guy should be stopped for the benefit of >all. ...I HAVE TOLD U NUMEROUS TIMES.. THAT U DIDNT SEND ME WHAT U SAID U WERE SENDING ME.. AND THEREFORE THERE WILL BE NO TRADE.. U TRIED TO RIP ME OFF.. AND I WONT PUT UP WITH THAT... ALL CORRESPONDENCE WAS HALTED WHEN I FOUND THAT U WERE NOT BEING HONEST WITH ME... ON AOL U CAN ONLY HAVE 5 NAMES PER ACCOUNT... I AM CURRENTLY USING TWO OF THEM... ONE IS FOR A FRIEND IN ARIZONA.. WHO NEVER USES IT.. AND THE OTHER TWO ARE MY WIFES... NOT GIRLFRIEND BUT WIFE.. AND NONE OF THOSE NAMES ON MY REFERENCE LIST ARE HER... The following emails were responses to the person's request for info. Please note that I believe the only legitimate ref that Glen has is at tonofcards@aol.com. ...YES WELL.. U ARE WRONG HERE... ALL THOSE NAMES ARE PEOPLE I HAVE TRADED WITH ONLINE... MOST OF THEM ARE AOL PEOPLE SINCE I HAVE THE ABILITY OF TALKING TO THEM ONE ON ONE.. AND I CAN POST MESSAGES IN VARIOUS PLACES ON AOL... I DID SOME TRADING WITH TONOFCARDS.. AKA WANDA IN PA.. BUT NOT IN A FEW MONTHS NOW.. ALso, the mail from BarbiiBear and Glen has all the same writing patterns. He just loves doctoring his refs. ... BARBI.. LIVES IN FLORIDA.. AND I HAVE KNOWN HER FOR ABOUT TWO YEARS.. SHE IS NOW A FRIEND OF MINE.. ONE OF MY CLOSEST ONES.. AND I HAVE HAD SEVERAL TRADES WITH HER... WRITING PATTERNS?? GIMME A BREAK... THE QUESTIONS WERE ASKED.. AND ANSWERED.. THERE ARE NO PATTERNS.. BUT THINK ABOUT IT.. THERE IS A LIMIT TO HOW MANY WAYS THERE ARE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.. SUCH AS WERE ASKED IN THE MAILING U ALL GOT... I AM NOT BARBI.. AND SHE ISNT ME.. GET OVER IT... AND GROW UP... WE ARE OFTEN ONLINE AT THE SAME TIME.. AND WITH ONE ACCOUNT.. U CANT DO THAT... ALSO.. IF IT WAS ASSUMED THAT I HAD TWO ACCOUNTS ID ALSO HAVE TO HAVE TWO COMPUTERS TO BE ONLINE AT THE SAME TIME AS BARBI.. OF COURSE THERE IS A WAY TO BE ON TWO ACCOUNTS AT THE SAME TIME WITH ONE COMPUTER.. BUT I DONT HAVE WIN95... SO ITS NOT POSSIBLE FOR ME... AND I HAVE ONLY ONE AOL ACCOUNT... Please note a lot of his items hasn't changed. I asked for 2 Quick Cams and a Borg game and they are still on the list. ...THEY ARE STILL ON THE LIST.. CUZ I HAD 4 OF EACH OF THEM.. I HAD 24 QUICK CAMS.. WHEN I STARTED... I HAVE TWO LEFT.. NOW..I THINK... BUT ONE IS SPOKEN FOR.. SUPPOSEDLY... ALTHO THAT LIST WAS NOT NEW.. IT HAS BEEN UPDATED A FEW TIMES SINCE THIS COPY WAS SENT.. BUT SINCE I HAD MULTIPLE COPIES OF SOME OF THE THINGS ON IT.. THERE WAS NO NEED TO UPDATE IT... YES U DID ASK FOR THOSE THINGS BUT.. U NEVER SENT WHAT U WERE SUPPOSED TO SEND FOR THEM... CASE CLOSED... Hi! I have some more information and tactics of Glen Frohman, the master fraud. He's scammed many people and he is still trying to pull his bit. Here's a record of a possible trade he was going to do last month: ....MANY?? UM... HARDLY.. I HAVE ONLY HAD A BAD EXPERIENCE WITH THREE PEOPLE NOW.. AND FROM WHAT I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DETERMINE TWO OF THOSE PEOPLE USING DIFFERENT NAMES MIGHT BE THE SAME PERSON... AS U ALL CAN SEE. . THE SAME POINTS ARE STATED BY MORE THAN ONE NAME IN THIS MAILING LIST... HMMMMM MAKES U THINK... DOESNT IT... U KNOW.. ITS NOT ALWAYS THE FIRST PERSON TO ACCUSE AND RANT AND RAVE THAT IS THE HONEST ONE... SOMETIMES THE KID THAT SAYS.. HE TOOK MY PENCIL IS LYING... AND NO PENCIL WAS EVER REALLY TAKEN.. EVEN IF TWO OR THREE SAY IT... THERE ARE MANY MORE WHO WILL SAY THAT THE ACCUSED IS HONEST.. I AM CURRENTLY DEALING WITH MANY MANY PEOPLE ONLINE VIA THE NET AND VIA AOL... AND I HAVENT HAD ANY PROBLEMS OTHER THAN WITH THESE TWO... IF U WISH MORE INFO... CONTACT ME.. AND ILL SEE WHAT I CAN DO... BUT I WILL NOT RESPOND TO THIS GARBAGE ANYMORE AFTER THIS... - ---------------------------------------------------------------- TrekTrade is also available in a digest format. 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