From: owner-trektrade-digest@lists.xmission.com (trektrade-digest) To: trektrade-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: trektrade-digest V99 #365 Reply-To: Enter_E-Mail_Address Sender: owner-trektrade-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-trektrade-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk trektrade-digest Monday, November 1 1999 Volume 99 : Number 365 -- (TrekTrade) complete trade list ST in Motion (TrekTrade) Do you know this eBay seller? Re: (TrekTrade) Do you know this eBay seller? (TrekTrade) E-Bay autograph Sellers (TrekTrade) Blaze of Glory Re: (TrekTrade) E-Bay autograph Sellers (TrekTrade) FS: Star Trek card collection - 7,000 cards 1976-1998 -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 21:37:55 -0500 (EST) From: gsherwood@lycosmail.com Subject: (TrekTrade) complete trade list ST in Motion Hello everyone, Here is my complete trade list of Star Trek in Motion: I have: 2 (x2), 3, 11, 15 (x2), 16, 18 and 24 (x2) I need: 8 (x2), 10, 12 (x2), 13 (x2), 14 (x3), 21 (x4) and 22. I also have several singles from recent Star Trek series to cross trade. Greg - ----------------------------------------------------- Get free personalized email at http://email.lycos.com - ---------------------------------------------------------------- TrekTrade is also available in a digest format. To Subscribe to TrekTrade-digest send and put "subscribe trektrade-digest" in the body without the quotes. - -- To Unsubscribe from TrekTrade send and put "unsubscribe trektrade" in the body without the quotes. - -- Previous message archives are available via WWW at: or via FTP at: ftp.xmission.com --in-- /home/ftp/pub/lists/trektrade/archive ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 06:31:27 -0500 From: Vince Maiocco Subject: (TrekTrade) Do you know this eBay seller? Hi, All, Need some help, if you can. Several months ago, I bought an autographed photo (from STTMP) of Bill Shatner and Leonard Nimoy, signed by both with a COA. I just learned (from someone who is in a position to know for sure) that the autographs are fakes. I've gone thru my records and cannot find enough info on the seller to be able to reach him and wondered if anyone could help. His/her name is D. E. Schneeberger (got this from my check register), but I can'y find an eMail or snailmail address. The COA is from Classic Memorabilia, if anyone knows that name. Thanx for any help. LLAP, Vince Vince Maiocco STQuote #21 - Killing is stupid; useless! -- McCoy, "A Private Little War,"= =20 stardate 4211.8. STQ# 365 -Dead, huh? Well, that's one less thing. =FE Beverly STQ# 1 - "Kirk is alive. Deal with it." -- Me, but I stole it. visit my website http://www.voicenet.com/~vmaiocco/index.html - ---------------------------------------------------------------- TrekTrade is also available in a digest format. To Subscribe to TrekTrade-digest send and put "subscribe trektrade-digest" in the body without the quotes. - -- To Unsubscribe from TrekTrade send and put "unsubscribe trektrade" in the body without the quotes. - -- Previous message archives are available via WWW at: or via FTP at: ftp.xmission.com --in-- /home/ftp/pub/lists/trektrade/archive ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 07:11:37 PST From: "Anthony D." Subject: Re: (TrekTrade) Do you know this eBay seller? Vince: I don't have any info, but would you mind keeping us informed of the final outcome? That really rots that someone would do that to you. Anthony ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - ---------------------------------------------------------------- TrekTrade is also available in a digest format. To Subscribe to TrekTrade-digest send and put "subscribe trektrade-digest" in the body without the quotes. - -- To Unsubscribe from TrekTrade send and put "unsubscribe trektrade" in the body without the quotes. - -- Previous message archives are available via WWW at: or via FTP at: ftp.xmission.com --in-- /home/ftp/pub/lists/trektrade/archive ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 09:45:41 -0600 From: Ken Boechler Subject: (TrekTrade) E-Bay autograph Sellers In response to Vince's e-bay question. With all the lawsuit happy forgers on e-bay I can't respond directly to Vince's question about that particular dealer in an open forum like this. I've been collecting autographs for 15+ years and am a somewhat informed buyer. These days e-bay is known as a haven for forgers. Estimates are that 75-90% of the autographs being sold on e-bay are fakes. There are a lot of high volume sellers (1000 items per month) that wouldn't know an authentic autograph if it fell on them. It's these high volume sellers that skew the percentage upwards. There's a lot of small volume sellers selling forgeries as well. If you want to be an informed buyer go to Dejanews and do a search on the name David Tabb in the alt.collecting.autographs group-that should help you make informed decisions. It will require quite a bit of reading but it'll be worth the effort. As a buyer, I stopped browsing e-bays autograph groups 3 months ago. It wasn't worth the effort because of the amount of phoney crap I found. The high volume sellers flood all the areas and you can't find anybody good. The best way to determine suspicious sellers there's a couple of ways to find them: - - do a search on their auctions for the last month. Count up how many of one person these characters are selling. 10 Sarah Michelle Gellars? 15 Jennifer Love Hewitts? 8 Alyssa Milanos? Not bloody likely. Also check the completed auctions. If there are alot of itms that didn't sell at all- good names but not a bid-there's a clue. - - actually you want to know the best test for a forger- Phantom Menace autographs. Anyone who sells Natalie Portman as the Queen or Liam Neeson entire inventory is suspect. These two do not sign autographs at all. The high volume forgers haven't caught onto this yet. As soon as i see this in a seller inventory I'm out of there. - - beware anyone who has an opening bid of more than $20. There's a few sellers who have high opening bids becuase a lot of people know they're selling fakes and they won't get many bids. So they have a high opener and all they need is one bid and they've made ther profit. - - Check Iconographs on-line catalog for reference- this seller's reputation is beyond reproach. Their on-line catalog is a great reference tool. - - Don't be fooled by high feedback. Sure they completed the transactions to the buyers satisfaction but did they sell authentic items? Only the seller really knows. This was simplistic but i hope it helps. KMB - ---------------------------------------------------------------- TrekTrade is also available in a digest format. To Subscribe to TrekTrade-digest send and put "subscribe trektrade-digest" in the body without the quotes. - -- To Unsubscribe from TrekTrade send and put "unsubscribe trektrade" in the body without the quotes. - -- Previous message archives are available via WWW at: or via FTP at: ftp.xmission.com --in-- /home/ftp/pub/lists/trektrade/archive ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 09:08:06 -1000 (HST) From: drum@aloha.net (Michael Wall) Subject: (TrekTrade) Blaze of Glory Aloha! I STILL need: A Good Day to Live I have these to trade: Chula the Abyss Inside Operation The Albino U.S.S. Thunderchild Picard Maneuver Can anyone help me out? michael wall - ---------------------------------------------------------------- TrekTrade is also available in a digest format. To Subscribe to TrekTrade-digest send and put "subscribe trektrade-digest" in the body without the quotes. - -- To Unsubscribe from TrekTrade send and put "unsubscribe trektrade" in the body without the quotes. - -- Previous message archives are available via WWW at: or via FTP at: ftp.xmission.com --in-- /home/ftp/pub/lists/trektrade/archive ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 12:46:26 -0600 From: Ken Boechler Subject: Re: (TrekTrade) E-Bay autograph Sellers >I thought I was, as well. I allow for differences in an individul's >signature from year-to-year or because of the conditions under which the >request was made (if they're sitting at an autograph table, I would expect >the autograph to look a lot neater than if they were doing it standing up >on a street corner, using the requestor's back for a desk), As do I- some of these forgers are quite good. > >>- do a search on their auctions for the last month. Count up how many of >>one person these characters are selling. 10 Sarah Michelle Gellars? 15 >>Jennifer Love Hewitts? 8 Alyssa Milanos? Not bloody likely. > >Well, this might be true foir those specific actors (and lots of others, >too, I'm sure), Those were just examples- they're in demand and popular targets for the forgers now. I couldn't begin to name them all. however, I have seen many Trek cons where the dealers are >getting an actor to sign several dozen photos (for a fee, of course, or a >donation per sig to the actor's favorite charity), so volume in the case of >actors who are supplementing their income by attending conventions might >not be good examples of this rule. Trek actors are always a bit tricky because there's lots of real ones floating around. HOWEVER the most forged are Shatner,Nimoy, Avery, and Jeri Ryan as they are most in demand. There's not a lot of point in forging the lesser names because THEY are so common-but it DOES happen alot! > > > >I'm not trying to nitpick, but this might not always be a "tell", either. >I've seen items fail to get a single bid on eBay one week and the next >week, get in excess of a dozen bids, selling for 2 or 3 times it's book >value - timimg is everything. That's true- I was actually thinking of one or two particualr sellers who always has signed celebrity nudes from people who we all know wouldn't. Marina doesn't even acknowledge being in Wicked Lady-never mind signing a nude pic from it. I've talked to a lot of legitimate sellers over this e-bay mess and they all believe strongly that if it's a quality item the people in the know will bid on it so they have a low opening bid. Problem is that these days the legitimate sellers are getting swamped by the forgers. A Tia Carrere from Iconographs went for $8 while another from a suspected forger went for $25. (I asked for a better scan 3+ days before auction end because I couldn't make out the signature- it was a small scan. He didn't respond at all- which to me spoke volumes. But I digress.....) > >>- actually you want to know the best test for a forger- Phantom Menace >>autographs. Anyone who sells Natalie Portman as the Queen or Liam Neeson >>entire inventory is suspect. These two do not sign autographs at all. The >>high volume forgers haven't caught onto this yet. As soon as i see this in >>a seller inventory I'm out of there. > >OK, now that's seems to be an accurate measure of honesty. Sooner or later the forgers will catch on I'm afraid. >>- Check Iconographs on-line catalog for reference- this seller's reputation >>is beyond reproach. Their on-line catalog is a great reference tool. Other good sellers- autographworld and JD Bardwell out of NH. They both post on E-bay and are partners. Again I've never heard bad words about either. There's Collector's Arena (Graphrackr Kevin) and a guy in Chicago whose name escapes me at the moment. There are a lot of casual fan sellers that are good but you have to find them. Sorry to ratle on again about this- but e-bay gets on my nerves these days. I wrote to Dirty Pierre and the Feedbaqck on our site people last week asking them to clean it up. Considering how much money they rake off the crooks- I doubt it'll happen. KMB - ---------------------------------------------------------------- TrekTrade is also available in a digest format. To Subscribe to TrekTrade-digest send and put "subscribe trektrade-digest" in the body without the quotes. - -- To Unsubscribe from TrekTrade send and put "unsubscribe trektrade" in the body without the quotes. - -- Previous message archives are available via WWW at: or via FTP at: ftp.xmission.com --in-- /home/ftp/pub/lists/trektrade/archive ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 22:49:46 EST From: TradngCrds@aol.com Subject: (TrekTrade) FS: Star Trek card collection - 7,000 cards 1976-1998 Star Trek Collection (avg market value in parens): 1976 Topps ST:TOS cards (64 of 88) and stickers (14 of 22) plus wrapper -=20 (~$400 for full set of both) 1979 Topps Star Trek: The Movie complete set stickers and cards (~$40) 1982 ST:The Wrath of Khan complete set. Mini blank backed cards issued in=20 Holland (~$50) 1984 ST:The Search for Spock 21 of 60 regular cards, 13 of 20 Space Station=20 cards (~$45 for 80 card set) 1986 ST: The Voyage Home complete set (~$35) 1991 ST:TOS (Blue) and ST:TNG (Burgundy), complete sets, 320 cards in all=20 (~$25 for 320 card set) 1991 Columbia House Video Club membership card (credit card type plastic)=20 celebrating 25th anniversay of Star Trek ($??) 1991 Columbia House Video Club membership card (credit card type plastic)=20 ST:TNG The Collector=E2=80=99s Edition ($??) 1992 ST:TNG complete set (~$15) 1992 ST:TNG 01H-04H Holograms plus send-in gold hologram of Enterprise (~$35= ) 1992 ST:TNG 5 card language set (~$5) 1992 ST:TNG Promo set (~$10) 1993 ST:DS9 Factory set Includes certificate of Limited Edition #=E2=80=99ed= 020198)=20 (~$10) 1993 ST:DS9 Header cards, 2 different 1993 ST:DS9 Prototype cards, 2 different (~$??) 1993 ST Master Series I, complete set (~$10) 1993 ST Master Series I S1-5 (~$30) 1993 ST Master Series I Prototypes, 2 different (~$4) 1994 ST Master Series II, complete set (~$10) 1994 ST Master Series II inserts F2,F6-9 (~$6 each) 1994 ST Master Series II Prototype S2 (~$5) 1994 ST Master Series II Survey card (~$??) 1994 ST:TNG Season I Prototype S2 (~$5) 1994 ST:Generations Cinema Prototype S1 (~$15) 1994 ST:TNG CCG Main, black border; missing 7 cards (~$300 for complete set) 1995 ST:TNG Season II, 70 of 100 cards (~$12 for complete set) 1995 ST:TNG Season II Survey card (~$??) 1995 ST:TNG Season III, 1 card missing (~$12 for complete set) 1995 ST 30 Years Phase I, complete set (~$15) 1995 ST 30 Years Phase I, Survey card 1995 ST 30 Years Phase I, inserts D1-3 (~$35) 1995 ST 30 Years Phase I, inserts E3-9 (~$5 each) 1995 ST 30 Years Phase II, complete set (~$15) 1995 ST 30 Years Phase II, header card 1995 ST 30 Years Phase II, Survey card 1995 ST 30 Years Phase II, inserts F6,F8-9 (~$6 each) 1995 ST 30 Years Phase II, inserts L1-9 (~$125) 1995 ST 30 Years Phase III, missing 2 cards (~$15 for complete set) 1995 ST 30 Years Phase III, inserts M1-3 (~$35) 1995 ST: Voyager Season 1, Series 1, missing 1 card (~$12 for complete set) 1995 ST: Voyager Season 1, Series 1, Chakotay tatto 1995 ST: Voyager Season 1, Series 1, inserts E3, E7-8 (~$4 each) 1995 ST:Voyager promo, 4 card panel sheet measuring 5=E2=80=9Dx7=E2=80=9D 1995 ST:TNG CCG, Alternate Universe; complete set w/ Future Enterprise (~$12= 5) 1995 ST:TNG CCG, Alternate Universe; missing 1 card w/o Future Enterprise=20 (~$60) 1996 ST: Voyager Season 2, insert S4 (~$6) 1996 ST Promo card, 30 years, Launching soon on the Microsoft Network 1996 ST:TNG Season IV, 13 of 108 cards 1996 ST:TNG Season IV, insert S22 (~$7) 1996 ST: Voyager Season 1, Series 1, missing 1 card (~$12 for complete set) 1996 ST: Voyager Season 1, Series 1, Chakotay tatto 1996 ST:DS9 promo, 8=E2=80=9D x 10=E2=80=9D of bridge crew on bridge; framed 1996 ST:TOS CCG, Main; missing 27 cards (~$200 for complete set) 1996 ST:TOS CCG, Starfleet Maneuvers; missing 18 cards (~$150 for complete=20 set) 1996 ST:TOS 30th Anniversary tin of 20 metal collector cards, numbered 02139= =20 of 12,000. Metal cards still shrink wrapped in tin, complete with certificat= e=20 of authenticity (~$50) 1997 ST:TNG Season VI, complete set (~$12) 1997 ST:TNG Season VI, inserts S31-32, S34-36 (~$7 each) 1997 ST:DS9 Profiles 55 of 80 cards (~$12 for complete set) 1997 ST:TOS Season 1 promo card 1998 ST:Voyager Profiles promo card =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Odd & Ends Star Trek Universe by Newfield. Binder of Star Trek sheets detailing history= =20 of all facets from all series, incomplete plus promo brochure 16 coasters from above. 1991 blank backed bookmarker =E2=80=9CExplore Strange New Worlds...READ=E2= =80=9D w/ picture=20 of crew from ST:The Movie 1997 ST:First Contact CCG poster ST 30 years Phase III sealed wax boxes (4) (~$12 each) ST:Voyager Series 2 sealed wax box (~$25) Plus over 3,000 duplicates from nearly every set listed above including a fe= w=20 1976 and 1979 Topps dupes plus a few duplicate sets. (~$150) All cards are NM-MT kept in non-PVC pages displayed in binders. This=20 collection is conservatively valued at approximately $1700. Asking $525 obo.= =20 FREE shipping and insurance. Serious inquiries ONLY. Will accept Certified Check, M.O. or CC (Amex,Visa,M= C) - ---------------------------------------------------------------- TrekTrade is also available in a digest format. 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