From: owner-utah-astronomy-digest@lists.xmission.com (utah-astronomy-digest) To: utah-astronomy-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: utah-astronomy-digest V1 #41 Reply-To: utah-astronomy-digest Sender: owner-utah-astronomy-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-utah-astronomy-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk utah-astronomy-digest Friday, April 13 2001 Volume 01 : Number 041 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 18:10:54 -0600 From: Patrick Wiggins Subject: (utah-astronomy) News (includes another aurora warning) Space Weather News for April 11, 2001 http://www.spaceweather.com A strong solar wind disturbance hit our planet's magnetosphere between 1300 and 1400 UT (11 a.m. to noon MDT) on Wednesday, April 11th, triggering a severe geomagnetic storm. If the storm continues unabated, middle-latitude sky watchers could spot auroras tonight. Usually the best time to look for "Northern Lights" is around local midnight. In this case, it might be better to go outside not too long after sunset -- before the storm subsides and before the bright Moon rises. Visit spaceweather.com for updates and images from the ongoing storm. +++++ New Shuttle Web Site To commemorate the 20th anniversary of the launch of STS-1 on April 12, 1981, we are pleased to announce a new Web site with much useful and interesting information about the Shuttle. It is available at http://history.nasa.gov/sts1/index.html on the Web. Special thanks to Douglas Ortiz of our printing and design office who prepared this attractive and functional site. Stephen Garber, NASA Headquarters History Office +++++ Hubble Spots Mysterious Flash of Light on Jupiter By Robert Roy Britt, space.com 11 April 2001 A brief but bright flash of light as big as Earth spotted near Jupiter's north pole by the Hubble Space Telescope has scientists stumped. The flare, centered inside the northern oval, was five times brighter than the aurora and lasted about five minutes, peaking intensely during a one-minute stretch. Full story here: http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/solarsystem/jupiter_flare_010411.html +++++ A Window towards the Distant Universe Text with all links and the photo is available on the ESO Website at: http://www.eso.org/outreach/press-rel/pr-2001/phot-15-01.html 10 April 2001 The Capodimonte Deep Field, A Window towards the Distant Universe The Osservatorio Astronomico Capodimonte Deep Field (OACDF) is a multi-colour imaging survey project that is opening a new window towards the distant universe. It is conducted with the ESO Wide Field Imager (WFI), a 67-million pixel advanced camera attached to the MPG/ESO 2.2-m telescope at the La Silla Observatory (Chile). +++++ - - To unsubscribe from utah-astronomy, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe utah-astronomy" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 07:24:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Chuck Hards Subject: Re: (utah-astronomy) Expensive eyepieces Sorry, Rich, I didn't mean to make anyone at all feel guilty; but I did hope to burst a bubble or two. The "Emperor's New Clothes" scenario. I know many people who love astronomy, but are put off by the high cost of hardware, and miss a great experience as a result. Not everyone has a table saw and drill press in their basement, either, or the inclination to make their own stuff. There seems to be a mindset in this country that if something doesn't cost an arm and a leg, it's not of good-quality; and the other side of that, as you point out, is that some feel that "you get what you pay for". If you are paying hundreds of dollars for a "wow" effect, that's your decision. I'm not in a position to judge whether that's right or wrong for anyone but myself. When posting, I try and make things like that clear. These last few years, I have found myself becomming less attracted to all things material, and have been steadily lightening my "property load". I rebelled from a very religious upbringing, but middle-age has made me more introspective, and a new realization that although my teachers, parents, and clergy were going about it all wrong, their message was basically sound, and I'm finally far enough along in my personal development to make some sense out of it without having to just robotically go through the motions. Anyway, this vanishing attraction to material goods applies to astronomy hardware as well. The high-dollar items just make themselves a particularly conspicuous target. By the time I'm done, I will have come full-circle. Started with nothing, ending with nothing. That's the goal before I leave the planet, that's the point of the Message, and it's the right thing to do. For me, anyway. But don't worry. I think there are lots of projects still ahead of me, the finish line is still a long way off! And thanks for the compliment. If I had your skills, though, I wouldn't be so dependent on the manual arts just to make a living. It goes both ways; just depends on which side of the fence you're on at the moment. Chuck - --- Richard Tenney wrote: > Gosh Chuck, you sure have a way of making a guy feel > guilty! :-) > > For the most part I very much agree with your > summary; > what makes the Nagler so much fun obviously isn't > the > clarity of the image as much as the experience of > the > field of view. I proved to myself and others some > time ago that my 13mm ploessel and a friend's 10mm > Ortho way outperformed a 9mm Nagler for image > quality > when observing Jupiter; the level of detail gained > was > quite noticeable. But for many star fields and > deep-sky objects that extra apparent angle lends > something special to the view, IMHO. > > If I had your mfg. skills I would certainly be a lot > less dependent on dealers for what I use to enjoy > this > hobby. And when you are optically naive like me I > confess to leaning to the old axiom that "you get > what > you pay for", though obviously not always true, and > certainly pretty excessive in the case of Nagler > eyepieces. So while I can't see myself buying any > more of these for the forseeable future (though the > 15mm panoptic is still on my wish list), I will > continue to enjoy my 22mm in spite of the guilt ;-) > > Rich > > --- Chuck Hards wrote: > > > > --- Brent Watson wrote: > > > Chuck, > > > > > > first of all, I hope you didn't take my comments > > > yesterday too personally. They were certainly > not > > > intended to so aimed. > > > > Brent, I would never take offense at anything you > > said. We've known each other far too long. You > are > > one of the few people that I've met whose time in > > this > > hobby exceeds my own, and I'll take anything you > say > > at face value, without need of corroboration or > > other > > evidence. If you can remember back a few decades, > > you > > were one of my mentors when I wasn't even old > enough > > to shave! > > > > Thanks for your comments on the N*gler design. > Your > > experience shows that they aren't as flawless as > > some > > would believe. I'd love to try out your 16mm one > of > > these days. Maybe even this old dog can learn a > new > > trick. > > > > Chuck > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! 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Do not use quotes in > your message. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - - To unsubscribe from utah-astronomy, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe utah-astronomy" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 07:40:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Chuck Hards Subject: (utah-astronomy) OT: Yahoo selling porn? Has anyone else heard that Yahoo has started selling "adult" (read: porn) videos? If this is true, I will soon be switching my email account. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks Chuck __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - - To unsubscribe from utah-astronomy, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe utah-astronomy" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 09:57:51 -0600 (MDT) From: David Moulton Subject: Re: (utah-astronomy) OT: Yahoo selling porn? I've seen this mentioned several places, so I'm assuming it's true. I may have to think about switching as well. There is even talk in places that all of Yahoo could be placed on the 'nanny lists' that tell blocking software what to filter out. dave Quoting Chuck Hards : > Has anyone else heard that Yahoo has started selling > "adult" (read: porn) videos? > > If this is true, I will soon be switching my email > account. > > Any info would be appreciated. > > Thanks > > Chuck > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > - > To unsubscribe from utah-astronomy, send an email to > "majordomo@xmission.com" > with "unsubscribe utah-astronomy" in the body of the message. > For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send > "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. > David Moulton dmoulton@rocketmail.com Carpe Ductum - - To unsubscribe from utah-astronomy, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe utah-astronomy" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 10:02:46 -0600 From: "Reynolds, Rich" Subject: RE: (utah-astronomy) OT: Yahoo selling porn? Yahoo's stock was at 150 in June and now is at 16. Very interesting. -----Original Message----- From: David Moulton [mailto:dmoulton@rocketmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 9:58 AM To: utah-astronomy@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: (utah-astronomy) OT: Yahoo selling porn? I've seen this mentioned several places, so I'm assuming it's true. I may have to think about switching as well. There is even talk in places that all of Yahoo could be placed on the 'nanny lists' that tell blocking software what to filter out. dave Quoting Chuck Hards : > Has anyone else heard that Yahoo has started selling > "adult" (read: porn) videos? > > If this is true, I will soon be switching my email > account. > > Any info would be appreciated. > > Thanks > > Chuck > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > - > To unsubscribe from utah-astronomy, send an email to > "majordomo@xmission.com" > with "unsubscribe utah-astronomy" in the body of the message. > For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send > "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. > David Moulton dmoulton@rocketmail.com Carpe Ductum - - To unsubscribe from utah-astronomy, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe utah-astronomy" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. - - To unsubscribe from utah-astronomy, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe utah-astronomy" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 09:07:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Chuck Hards Subject: Re: (utah-astronomy) OT: Yahoo selling porn? Thanks for that info, Dave. I heard it on KSL-TV news last night, though I wasn't paying very close attention. I was explaining, as best as I could, the New Testament to my daughter, and was a bit emotionally involved. BTW, my little third grader is reading at a 6th grade level, and doing 5th grade math! The fact that she was shedding tears while we watched "Jesus pt.2" tells me that there is hope for the future. If I suddenly disappear from the list, it's only due to my switching email accounts, and will be back as soon as possible. I can still be reached at my office address, chuckh@companionsystems.com but I don't check that account Fri, Sat, Sun. The business is still hanging on by a thread, wish us luck! Thanks! Chuck - --- David Moulton wrote: > I've seen this mentioned several places, so I'm > assuming it's true. I may have > to think about switching as well. There is even talk > in places that all of > Yahoo could be placed on the 'nanny lists' that tell > blocking software what to > filter out. > > dave > > Quoting Chuck Hards : > > > Has anyone else heard that Yahoo has started > selling > > "adult" (read: porn) videos? > > > > If this is true, I will soon be switching my email > > account. > > > > Any info would be appreciated. > > > > Thanks > > > > Chuck > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > > > - > > To unsubscribe from utah-astronomy, send an email > to > > "majordomo@xmission.com" > > with "unsubscribe utah-astronomy" in the body of > the message. > > For information on digests or retrieving files > and old messages send > > "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in > your message. > > > > > > David Moulton > dmoulton@rocketmail.com > Carpe Ductum > > - > To unsubscribe from utah-astronomy, send an email > to "majordomo@xmission.com" > with "unsubscribe utah-astronomy" in the body of > the message. > For information on digests or retrieving files and > old messages send > "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in > your message. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - - To unsubscribe from utah-astronomy, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe utah-astronomy" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 09:26:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Tenney Subject: Re: (utah-astronomy) OT: Yahoo selling porn? What I heard on NPR last night on the drive home was that Yahoo itself wasn't selling porn, but was providing its online shopping services to a porn video vendor; don't know if the distinction is significant or not. I suppose it would be like a shopping mall allowing a porn dealer to set up shop in one of it's rental spaces (vs. a store like Wal-Mart having porn on it's own shelves). What I also heard that made me feel better about keeping my yahoo e-mail account (which has been surprisingly spam-free, unlike my old hotmail account, which was frequently spammed with porn ads!) for the time being was that access to the shopping site would be protected by an age-verification portal. Don't know if I'm ready to boycott Yahoo yet however. I think a few "we're very disappointed" letters to the right people might make the difference we want. You know, years ago I happened upon a book sitting no less on the recommended reading shelf of my Jr. college library (Grossmont College in San Diego County) whose very title assaulted my senses. It was (pardon my French) "Clean A**holes and Other Poems". A quick thumbing through revealed it to be nothing short of gay pornography in print. I was horrified; this is what my tax dollars were stocking the shelves of my college library with?! Tolerance of alternative lifestyles aside, my point to the library director (drafted in a letter of outrage) included the idea that such material may arguably have its place in society, but in an adult bookstore downtown (along with similar kinds of heterosexual material), and not on the recommended reading shelf of an institution of higher learning. The result of my letter was a surprise audience with several of the college board, shame-faced, backpedaling and fumbling for reasonable explanations as to why that book was there. Oh, don't get me wrong, there was plenty of justifying their behavior, but I'm certain they thought twice in the years that followed about the aquisition and display of such material (they told me that magazines such as Penthouse were also available, but of course those were kept "behind the counter"!). My point to all that rambling is that more often than not the people in charge do listen to public input. Give it to 'em! My 2 cents, Rich - --- David Moulton wrote: > I've seen this mentioned several places, so I'm > assuming it's true. I may have > to think about switching as well. There is even talk > in places that all of > Yahoo could be placed on the 'nanny lists' that tell > blocking software what to > filter out. > > dave > > Quoting Chuck Hards : > > > Has anyone else heard that Yahoo has started > selling > > "adult" (read: porn) videos? > > > > If this is true, I will soon be switching my email > > account. > > > > Any info would be appreciated. > > > > Thanks > > > > Chuck > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > > > - > > To unsubscribe from utah-astronomy, send an email > to > > "majordomo@xmission.com" > > with "unsubscribe utah-astronomy" in the body of > the message. > > For information on digests or retrieving files > and old messages send > > "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in > your message. > > > > > > David Moulton > dmoulton@rocketmail.com > Carpe Ductum > > - > To unsubscribe from utah-astronomy, send an email > to "majordomo@xmission.com" > with "unsubscribe utah-astronomy" in the body of > the message. > For information on digests or retrieving files and > old messages send > "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in > your message. > > > ________________ > Email Forwarding Service Brought To You By: > http://www.bn3.com. > We can let you become anybody@anyplace.com. FREE, In > 5 minutes! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - - To unsubscribe from utah-astronomy, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe utah-astronomy" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 10:19:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Chuck Hards Subject: Re: (utah-astronomy) OT: Yahoo selling porn? Be careful, Rich. It's a slippery slope. In for a dime, in for a dollar. Chuck - --- Richard Tenney wrote: > What I heard on NPR last night on the drive home was > that Yahoo itself wasn't selling porn, but was > providing its online shopping services to a porn > video > vendor; don't know if the distinction is significant > or not. I suppose it would be like a shopping mall > allowing a porn dealer to set up shop in one of it's > rental spaces (vs. a store like Wal-Mart having porn > on it's own shelves). > > What I also heard that made me feel better about > keeping my yahoo e-mail account (which has been > surprisingly spam-free, unlike my old hotmail > account, > which was frequently spammed with porn ads!) for the > time being was that access to the shopping site > would > be protected by an age-verification portal. > > Don't know if I'm ready to boycott Yahoo yet > however. > I think a few "we're very disappointed" letters to > the > right people might make the difference we want. > > You know, years ago I happened upon a book sitting > no > less on the recommended reading shelf of my Jr. > college library (Grossmont College in San Diego > County) whose very title assaulted my senses. It > was > (pardon my French) "Clean A**holes and Other Poems". > > A quick thumbing through revealed it to be nothing > short of gay pornography in print. I was horrified; > this is what my tax dollars were stocking the > shelves > of my college library with?! Tolerance of > alternative > lifestyles aside, my point to the library director > (drafted in a letter of outrage) included the idea > that such material may arguably have its place in > society, but in an adult bookstore downtown (along > with similar kinds of heterosexual material), and > not > on the recommended reading shelf of an institution > of > higher learning. The result of my letter was a > surprise audience with several of the college board, > shame-faced, backpedaling and fumbling for > reasonable > explanations as to why that book was there. Oh, > don't > get me wrong, there was plenty of justifying their > behavior, but I'm certain they thought twice in the > years that followed about the aquisition and display > of such material (they told me that magazines such > as > Penthouse were also available, but of course those > were kept "behind the counter"!). My point to all > that rambling is that more often than not the people > in charge do listen to public input. Give it to > 'em! > > My 2 cents, > Rich > > > --- David Moulton wrote: > > I've seen this mentioned several places, so I'm > > assuming it's true. I may have > > to think about switching as well. There is even > talk > > in places that all of > > Yahoo could be placed on the 'nanny lists' that > tell > > blocking software what to > > filter out. > > > > dave > > > > Quoting Chuck Hards : > > > > > Has anyone else heard that Yahoo has started > > selling > > > "adult" (read: porn) videos? > > > > > > If this is true, I will soon be switching my > email > > > account. > > > > > > Any info would be appreciated. > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Chuck > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > > > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > - > > > To unsubscribe from utah-astronomy, send an > email > > to > > > "majordomo@xmission.com" > > > with "unsubscribe utah-astronomy" in the body > of > > the message. > > > For information on digests or retrieving files > > and old messages send > > > "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes > in > > your message. > > > > > > > > > > > David Moulton > > dmoulton@rocketmail.com > > Carpe Ductum > > > > - > > To unsubscribe from utah-astronomy, send an email > > to "majordomo@xmission.com" > > with "unsubscribe utah-astronomy" in the body of > > the message. > > For information on digests or retrieving files > and > > old messages send > > "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in > > your message. > > > > > > ________________ > > Email Forwarding Service Brought To You By: > > http://www.bn3.com. > > We can let you become anybody@anyplace.com. FREE, > In > > 5 minutes! > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! 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Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 10:20:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott Catron Subject: Re: (utah-astronomy) OT: Yahoo selling porn? - --- Richard Tenney wrote: > What I heard on NPR last night on the drive home was > that Yahoo itself wasn't selling porn, but was > providing its online shopping services to a porn video > vendor Go to the main Yahoo! Video Shopping page: http://shopping.yahoo.com/video/ and under Browse Genres, after "Documentary", is "Adult & Erotica" Doesn't say anything about it being an outside vendor... ===== - - Scott Catron - Sandy, Utah - zaui@yahoo.com - "If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate" -- Steven Wright __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - - To unsubscribe from utah-astronomy, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe utah-astronomy" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 10:42:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Tenney Subject: Re: (utah-astronomy) OT: Yahoo selling porn? Here's the scoop: ======================================= Yahoo Adds Porn Videos to Its Shopping Site By Andrea Orr PALO ALTO, Calif. (Reuters) - Internet media giant Yahoo! Inc, under pressure to develop new sources of revenue, Wednesday said it is offering a broad selection of adult material, including hard-core porn videos and DVDs, through its popular shopping service. The company declined to confirm that it had dramatically increased its porn offerings in recent weeks, but did say it was comfortable offering racy adult materials to help build its overall commerce business. The L.A. Times reported Wednesday that Yahoo had quietly relaunched its ``Adult and Erotica'' store from and added thousands of new titles. In an interview Wednesday, Yahoo President Jeff Mallett defended the company's decision to include a broad selection of porn along with things like computers and apparel and children's toys that are also featured on Yahoo Shopping. ``We're hard and fast on being the largest enabler of commerce on the Web,'' said Mallett. ``We have chosen to offer adult-oriented content as part of that.'' A basic search of the word ``sex'' in Yahoo's search engine directs visitors to a specialized area of its shopping service that lists thousands of videos sorted under several racy categories including ``bondage and domination,'' ``hardcore'' and ''fetish.'' Although Yahoo does not sell the materials directly, it partners with other merchants and typically gets a portion of the revenues generated from sales initiated on its site. The company also charges retailers a fee to be listed in its directory, and, according to the L.A. Times report, charges adult-oriented sites three times as much as mainstream stores. Pornographic Web sites emerged in the early days of the Internet as one of the most popular destinations for Internet visitors, and porn remains one of the most viable Web business models today, since users are typically willing to pay for the material, and for the sense of privacy that comes from accessing it online. Still, by investing heavily in this area, a mainstream site like Yahoo could face image problems, analysts said. Lobby Group Calls For Boycott Shortly after the news of its extensive porn offerings came out, one conservative California lobby group called on consumers to consider boycotting Yahoo, and to write to the company to object to its policy. ``The very real danger is that our children will have the very real possibility to be exposed to pornographic material,'' a statement from the Sacramento, Calif.-based Capitol Resource Institute said. ``This is not appropriate and must not go unchallenged.'' Although most major Internet content sites link to mainstream retailers like Amazon.com Inc. that sell some adult books and videos, Yahoo is also partnering with more specialized porn retailers. Several rival companies said Wednesday they were keeping a greater distance from controversial porn material. AOL Time Warner Inc , for instance, said its policy is not to accept advertising for adult products and services. And Amazon.com said it draws the line at ``mature content,'' and does not stock any pornography in its video store. Microsoft Corp's MSN.com Internet media site has a similar policy. It said its online store eShop will promote what it deems ``sensual products that enhance relationship building between partners and couples,'' but not pornography. And the Internet search engine AltaVista, owned by CMGI Inc, said it does not include any adult-related products in its shopping index. ``I think our shopping site is meant to be a family-friendly area,'' and AltaVista spokeswoman said. Yahoo, in offering a broad selection of porn, stressed that it is making an effort to keep children off those areas of its site. Visitors can not access the Adult and Erotica store on Yahoo until they enter a credit card number and other personal information. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - - To unsubscribe from utah-astronomy, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe utah-astronomy" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 11:06:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Tenney Subject: Re: (utah-astronomy) OT: Yahoo selling porn? For the record, if you don't see me switch my e-mail from Yahoo, please don't assume I support their decision to market salacious materials to the masses. As near as I can tell, Yahoo doesn't make a penny off of my using their free, accesssible-from-anywhere, very convenient e-mail service (as long as I don't click on any ad banners that is). As I said before, I've had no problems with spam in my account, which is NOT something I can say about juno or hotmail or other accounts I have had... Boycott their on-line store by all means (I've yet to purchase anything from it anyway), since that is where their chief revenue stream is. Rich __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - - To unsubscribe from utah-astronomy, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe utah-astronomy" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 23:18:50 -0600 From: Patrick Wiggins Subject: (utah-astronomy) SPOC 2 update & news SLAS Members, Work on the new observatory building is currently at a standstill, but will resume after May 8th when we expect to begin forming the walls. Thanks again to Siegfried, $6500 worth of commercial steel doors and hardware were obtained from BMC West for less than $2000 and W. W. Grainger Corp has donated several items including telescope bearings and two electric gear motors for opening and closing the observatory roofs. Machining of parts for the 37" scope is proceeding as is electrical work on the 16" Ealing. Parts for the Ealing scope are being moved to Pat Wiggin's residence for cleanup, painting, and storage until the observatory is completed. A new gear follower component was fabricated by Bruce Grim and Peter Ruplinger to replace the original which had been removed by the U of U - this will maintain proper alignment between the worm gear and worm and prevent damage to the gear teeth. The secondary mirror focusing motor will be replaced during restoration, however all of the drive motors are intact and are being rewired to an Astro Physics Drive corrector by Peter Ruplinger. All of the steel components for the 37" scope and observatory building have been completed by Simpson Steel and will be picked up as needed for construction. The cost to the SPOC account was $3900 for $10,400 worth of steel fabrication. They are also donating 10 gallons of epoxy paint to coat the steel parts for the observatory. Chuck Hards and Vaughn Parsons are proceeding on preparatory work to fiberglass the tube for the large scope - this is a substantial undertaking but will result in a beautiful tube. Thanks to every one who has helped so far on this project - it has been a real pleasure to work on this project with so many fine people. The old SPOC site is looking pretty good for the upcoming star party season - the grass is very green now, but expect it to turn brown later this summer, as the sprinkling system in that area may not be operative due to construction on the health SPA and restaurant. During the Messier Marathon we found that the new parking lot which is located at the site of the old playground is also a pretty good place to set up telescopes. The 16" in the Dome is in working order and may continue to serve for several more years in its present location. Thanks again, Bruce Grim, SPOC coordinator +++++ April 11, 2001 Space officials announce Tito's duties during mission to ISS By Veronika Voskoboinikova STAR CITY, Moscow region (Itar-Tass) -- U.S. businessman Dennis Tito will be responsible for radio, navigation and electrical systems during a two-day flight aboard the Soyuz to the International Space Station scheduled for April 28, Russian space officials said. He will also "fulfill all orders from the commander" of the crew, they said. During his six-day flight aboard the ISS, the first space tourist will carry out his personal programme. Tito said he will videotape and take photographs, including stereo photographs, maintain radio contact with schools and organisations, transmit information about his flight through the Internet. The inter-agency commission's decision on Tito's flight is not subject to change. However it will have to be approved by the state commission on the day of the liftoff from the Baikonur launching site, deputy head of the Cosmonauts' Training Centre Andrei Maiboroda told a press conference. +++++ SkySight 1.0b1 Source Code Released! Southern Stars Systems has made the source code for SkySight publicly available. In doing so, we invite astronomical-imaging enthusiasts to actively participate in its development. We've decided that releasing the current program as a public beta, and continuing its development as an open-source project, is the best way to bring the result of our efforts to the astronomical community, and ensure that the product has a future. To view our open source home page and download the current code, click on the link below: http://www.southernstars.com/opensource/index.html +++++ - - To unsubscribe from utah-astronomy, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe utah-astronomy" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 08:23:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Chuck Hards Subject: (utah-astronomy) Swap meet/Sun party contingency plan If the sky is overcast, but there is no precipitation, will the swap meet take place sans sun party? Or will the whole thing be cancelled? What's the plan? Thanks Chuck __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - - To unsubscribe from utah-astronomy, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe utah-astronomy" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 09:27:09 -0600 From: David Dunn Subject: FW: (utah-astronomy) Swap meet/Sun party contingency plan The swap meet will still be held. - -----Original Message----- From: Chuck Hards [mailto:chuckhards@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 9:23 AM To: utah-astronomy@lists.xmission.com Subject: (utah-astronomy) Swap meet/Sun party contingency plan If the sky is overcast, but there is no precipitation, will the swap meet take place sans sun party? Or will the whole thing be cancelled? What's the plan? Thanks Chuck __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - - To unsubscribe from utah-astronomy, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe utah-astronomy" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. 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