From: "Bryant Pratt" Subject: (utah-sailing) Sailboat Maintenance Seminar Date: 03 Mar 2003 10:59:46 -0700 Fellow Boaters, On this Wednesday night, March 5, the topic for the seventh session of the Great Salt Lake Yacht Club's FREE Sailing Seminars will be SAILBOAT MAINTENANCE. Phil Gay will present some important aspects of motor, engine, sails, rigging, and systems maintenance. This and all sessions will be held from 7:00 to 8:30 PM in the Whitmore Library Auditorium (in the basement) at 2197 East Fort Union Blvd (7000 S.) in Salt Lake County. It is easily accessed from the 2000 East exit of I-215 by driving south for 1/2 mi. on 2000 E. then east for 1/2 mile on Ft. Union to the light at Whitmore Way -- enter the lot from Whitmore Way. Door prizes! Bring your friends! See you there! Bry Pratt * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Carr, Robert" Subject: (utah-sailing) RE: (Utah-sailing) Crane Day Date: 03 Mar 2003 11:52:43 -0700 Sorry to use the list to get to Dave Shearer, but I don't have his = address. Dave, After March 22, when is the next crane day? I suddenly find that I = have 2 activities scheduled for the same day. Bob Carr * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Diana Goodell" Subject: (utah-sailing) Sailboat Maintenance Seminar - Part 2 Date: 05 Mar 2003 10:21:06 -0700 Are you one of those sailors that want to continue the conversations? Are = you visiting as you shiver in the library parking lot? Are you visiting = in the library foyer when the library lights dim? Is 9 PM just a tad = early for heading home? Then plan to join tour guide Kevin after = tonight's Maintenance lecture to a local pub - the area has several within = 5 minutes. Cheers! >>> brypratt@inovion.com 03/03/03 10:59AM >>> Fellow Boaters, On this Wednesday night, March 5, the topic for the seventh session of = the Great Salt Lake Yacht Club's FREE Sailing Seminars will be SAILBOAT MAINTENANCE. Phil Gay will present some important aspects of motor, = engine, sails, rigging, and systems maintenance. This and all sessions will be held from 7:00 to 8:30 PM in the Whitmore Library Auditorium (in the basement) at 2197 East Fort Union Blvd (7000 = S.) in Salt Lake County. It is easily accessed from the 2000 East exit of = I-215 by driving south for 1/2 mi. on 2000 E. then east for 1/2 mile on Ft. = Union to the light at Whitmore Way -- enter the lot from Whitmore Way. Door prizes! Bring your friends! See you there! Bry Pratt * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing=20 * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dave Shearer" Subject: (utah-sailing) Crane Day/Shallow Lake Date: 05 Mar 2003 13:28:32 -0700 To those who have been inquiring about another crane day after the March 22nd one. We will be having at least one crane and possibly two in April. The first date being kicked around is April 3, 4, or 5. The second date being kicked around is April 24, 25, or 26. Give me your feedback. As for the Tribune article and the lake. Do not know how AP found out about a crane day or why they thought all these boats were pulling out because of the shallow water. The situation is not nearly as serious as the Tribune article made it sound. Nor did I pull my boat as stated in the article. Nor was that my boat hanging on the crane as stated in the article. Nor did I say the situation was "worse than I expected". Just goes to show you can't believe everything you read in the paper. I can't tell you how many people have called me over the article panicking about pulling their boats and when the next crane day will be. If the mouth of the marina gets dredged as planned this spring then all the boats will be able to sail this spring and summer. only a very few boats may be in trouble by fall. The vast majority of people will have a great sailing season with no trouble of shallow water. The marina is 8 1/2 to 9 1/2 feet right now. The mouth is 7 feet at the shallow spot. Deep channel is 9 to 14 feet deep consistantly. I would guess that we will drop 1 1/2 to 2 feet at most by November. (only my estimate). This would mean that anyone with 5 feet or less draft should be fine through next winter. BUT - - - If we have another disastrous winter like this one - - - We may be in serious trouble. But relax and have a great year of sailing. Pray for rain on the weekdays and sunny, breezy days on the weekends. On the light side of the article; My Mother suggested I get a haircut. Dave * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Carr, Robert" Subject: (utah-sailing) RE: (Utah-sailing) Crane Day/Shallow Lake Date: 05 Mar 2003 13:38:26 -0700 I vote for the early April date. Won't a Saturday draw a bigger crowd, = more users to share the cost? Based on that logic, April 5 is my choice. = Unless I'm the only one there that day. Tribune article? What Tribune article? (Some of us take the Substandard = Exaggerator.) Is there a URL for the Trib article? Bob Carr -----Original Message----- Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 1:29 PM To those who have been inquiring about another crane day after the=20 March 22nd one. We will be having at least one crane and possibly=20 two in April. The first date being kicked around is April 3, 4, or 5. The second date being kicked around is April 24, 25, or 26. Give me your feedback. As for the Tribune article and the lake. Do not know how AP found=20 out about a crane day or why they thought all these boats were=20 pulling out because of the shallow water. The situation is not=20 nearly as serious as the Tribune article made it sound. Nor did I=20 pull my boat as stated in the article. Nor was that my boat=20 hanging on the crane as stated in the article. Nor did I say the=20 situation was "worse than I expected". Just goes to show you=20 can't believe everything you read in the paper.=20 I can't tell you how many people have called me over the article=20 panicking about pulling their boats and when the next crane day=20 will be. If the mouth of the marina gets dredged as planned this=20 spring then all the boats will be able to sail this spring and=20 summer. only a very few boats may be in trouble by fall. The vast=20 majority of people will have a great sailing season with no=20 trouble of shallow water. The marina is 8 1/2 to 9 1/2 feet right now. The mouth is 7 feet=20 at the shallow spot. Deep channel is 9 to 14 feet deep=20 consistantly. I would guess that we will drop 1 1/2 to 2 feet at=20 most by November. (only my estimate). This would mean that anyone=20 with 5 feet or less draft should be fine through next winter. =20 BUT - - - If we have another disastrous winter like this one - - -=20 We may be in serious trouble. But relax and have a great year of sailing. Pray for rain on the=20 weekdays and sunny, breezy days on the weekends. On the light side of the article; My Mother suggested I get a=20 haircut. Dave=20 =20 =20 * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Carr, Robert" Subject: (utah-sailing) RE: (Utah-sailing) RE: (Utah-sailing) Crane Day/Shallow Lake Date: 05 Mar 2003 13:43:44 -0700 I found the article: = http://www.sltrib.com/2003/mar/03032003/monday/34492.asp -----Original Message----- Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 1:38 PM I vote for the early April date. Won't a Saturday draw a bigger crowd, = more users to share the cost? Based on that logic, April 5 is my choice. = Unless I'm the only one there that day. Tribune article? What Tribune article? (Some of us take the Substandard = Exaggerator.) Is there a URL for the Trib article? Bob Carr -----Original Message----- Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 1:29 PM To those who have been inquiring about another crane day after the=20 March 22nd one. We will be having at least one crane and possibly=20 two in April. The first date being kicked around is April 3, 4, or 5. The second date being kicked around is April 24, 25, or 26. Give me your feedback. As for the Tribune article and the lake. Do not know how AP found=20 out about a crane day or why they thought all these boats were=20 pulling out because of the shallow water. The situation is not=20 nearly as serious as the Tribune article made it sound. Nor did I=20 pull my boat as stated in the article. Nor was that my boat=20 hanging on the crane as stated in the article. Nor did I say the=20 situation was "worse than I expected". Just goes to show you=20 can't believe everything you read in the paper.=20 I can't tell you how many people have called me over the article=20 panicking about pulling their boats and when the next crane day=20 will be. If the mouth of the marina gets dredged as planned this=20 spring then all the boats will be able to sail this spring and=20 summer. only a very few boats may be in trouble by fall. The vast=20 majority of people will have a great sailing season with no=20 trouble of shallow water. The marina is 8 1/2 to 9 1/2 feet right now. The mouth is 7 feet=20 at the shallow spot. Deep channel is 9 to 14 feet deep=20 consistantly. I would guess that we will drop 1 1/2 to 2 feet at=20 most by November. (only my estimate). This would mean that anyone=20 with 5 feet or less draft should be fine through next winter. =20 BUT - - - If we have another disastrous winter like this one - - -=20 We may be in serious trouble. But relax and have a great year of sailing. Pray for rain on the=20 weekdays and sunny, breezy days on the weekends. On the light side of the article; My Mother suggested I get a=20 haircut. Dave=20 =20 =20 * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dave Shearer" Subject: Re: (utah-sailing) RE: (Utah-sailing) Crane Day/Shallow Lake Date: 05 Mar 2003 13:42:50 -0700 Bob. Your right about Saturday drawing a larger crowd. But the Crane costs more per hour (and travel time) on Saturday. If we can draw a large enough crowd then it is more economical on the weekend. Otherwise a weekday is cheaper. As soon as I can find out how large the interest is I will make a determination. I think you can almost count on an early crane date and possibly the late crane date too. As for the Trib article. You can go to Google and type in "Salt Lake Tribune" that will get you to their home page. It was in the Monday Tribune and talked about the drought and the impact it was having on boating. Dave ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- Reply-To: utah-sailing@lists.xmission.com >I vote for the early April date. Won't a Saturday draw a bigger crowd, more users to share the cost? Based on that logic, April 5 is my choice. Unless I'm the only one there that day. > >Tribune article? What Tribune article? (Some of us take the Substandard Exaggerator.) Is there a URL for the Trib article? > >Bob Carr > >-----Original Message----- >From: Dave Shearer [mailto:dshearer@mail.gslyc.org] >Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 1:29 PM >To: utah-sailing@lists.xmission.com >Subject: (utah-sailing) Crane Day/Shallow Lake > > >To those who have been inquiring about another crane day after the >March 22nd one. We will be having at least one crane and possibly >two in April. > >The first date being kicked around is April 3, 4, or 5. > >The second date being kicked around is April 24, 25, or 26. > >Give me your feedback. > > >As for the Tribune article and the lake. Do not know how AP found >out about a crane day or why they thought all these boats were >pulling out because of the shallow water. The situation is not >nearly as serious as the Tribune article made it sound. Nor did I >pull my boat as stated in the article. Nor was that my boat >hanging on the crane as stated in the article. Nor did I say the >situation was "worse than I expected". Just goes to show you >can't believe everything you read in the paper. > >I can't tell you how many people have called me over the article >panicking about pulling their boats and when the next crane day >will be. If the mouth of the marina gets dredged as planned this >spring then all the boats will be able to sail this spring and >summer. only a very few boats may be in trouble by fall. The vast >majority of people will have a great sailing season with no >trouble of shallow water. > >The marina is 8 1/2 to 9 1/2 feet right now. The mouth is 7 feet >at the shallow spot. Deep channel is 9 to 14 feet deep >consistantly. I would guess that we will drop 1 1/2 to 2 feet at >most by November. (only my estimate). This would mean that anyone >with 5 feet or less draft should be fine through next winter. >BUT - - - If we have another disastrous winter like this one - - - >We may be in serious trouble. > >But relax and have a great year of sailing. Pray for rain on the >weekdays and sunny, breezy days on the weekends. > > >On the light side of the article; My Mother suggested I get a >haircut. > >Dave > > > > > > >* Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: >* http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing >* To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with >* the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). > > >* Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: >* http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing >* To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with >* the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). > > * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Laszlo Preysz" Subject: Re: (utah-sailing) Crane Day/Shallow Lake Date: 05 Mar 2003 13:47:38 -0700 Hey, Dave Now you know how I feel when they have articles about aviation...... Laszlo "AirFair" ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 1:28 PM > To those who have been inquiring about another crane day after the > March 22nd one. We will be having at least one crane and possibly > two in April. > > The first date being kicked around is April 3, 4, or 5. > > The second date being kicked around is April 24, 25, or 26. > > Give me your feedback. > > > As for the Tribune article and the lake. Do not know how AP found > out about a crane day or why they thought all these boats were > pulling out because of the shallow water. The situation is not > nearly as serious as the Tribune article made it sound. Nor did I > pull my boat as stated in the article. Nor was that my boat > hanging on the crane as stated in the article. Nor did I say the > situation was "worse than I expected". Just goes to show you > can't believe everything you read in the paper. > > I can't tell you how many people have called me over the article > panicking about pulling their boats and when the next crane day > will be. If the mouth of the marina gets dredged as planned this > spring then all the boats will be able to sail this spring and > summer. only a very few boats may be in trouble by fall. The vast > majority of people will have a great sailing season with no > trouble of shallow water. > > The marina is 8 1/2 to 9 1/2 feet right now. The mouth is 7 feet > at the shallow spot. Deep channel is 9 to 14 feet deep > consistantly. I would guess that we will drop 1 1/2 to 2 feet at > most by November. (only my estimate). This would mean that anyone > with 5 feet or less draft should be fine through next winter. > BUT - - - If we have another disastrous winter like this one - - - > We may be in serious trouble. > > But relax and have a great year of sailing. Pray for rain on the > weekdays and sunny, breezy days on the weekends. > > > On the light side of the article; My Mother suggested I get a > haircut. > > Dave > > > > > > > * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: > * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing > * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with > * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). > * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: meek@mech.utah.edu (Sanford Meek) Subject: Re: (utah-sailing) Crane Day/Shallow Lake Date: 05 Mar 2003 14:08:15 -0700 At 13:28 3/5/3 -0700, Dave Shearer wrote: >The marina is 8 1/2 to 9 1/2 feet right now. The mouth is 7 feet >at the shallow spot. Deep channel is 9 to 14 feet deep >consistantly. For those with deep draft boats, I'd be happy to bring out my Sawz-all during crane day. I have some new, sharp blades. A couple of minutes cutting and you'll have a shoal draft keel and can take your boat out sailing. Sandy Sanford Meek University of Utah Department of Mechanical Engineering 50 S Central Campus Dr, Rm 2110 Salt Lake City, UT 84112-9208 (801)581-8562 meek@mech.utah.edu * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brad J Silver" Subject: Re: (utah-sailing) Crane Day/Shallow Lake Date: 05 Mar 2003 14:12:17 -0700 FYI, April 5th is the Member's Cup and April 25th is RC racing. Brad 01:28 PM Please respond to utah-sailing@lists.xmission.com Sent by: owner-utah-sailing@lists.xmission.com cc: To those who have been inquiring about another crane day after the March 22nd one. We will be having at least one crane and possibly two in April. The first date being kicked around is April 3, 4, or 5. The second date being kicked around is April 24, 25, or 26. Give me your feedback. As for the Tribune article and the lake. Do not know how AP found out about a crane day or why they thought all these boats were pulling out because of the shallow water. The situation is not nearly as serious as the Tribune article made it sound. Nor did I pull my boat as stated in the article. Nor was that my boat hanging on the crane as stated in the article. Nor did I say the situation was "worse than I expected". Just goes to show you can't believe everything you read in the paper. I can't tell you how many people have called me over the article panicking about pulling their boats and when the next crane day will be. If the mouth of the marina gets dredged as planned this spring then all the boats will be able to sail this spring and summer. only a very few boats may be in trouble by fall. The vast majority of people will have a great sailing season with no trouble of shallow water. The marina is 8 1/2 to 9 1/2 feet right now. The mouth is 7 feet at the shallow spot. Deep channel is 9 to 14 feet deep consistantly. I would guess that we will drop 1 1/2 to 2 feet at most by November. (only my estimate). This would mean that anyone with 5 feet or less draft should be fine through next winter. BUT - - - If we have another disastrous winter like this one - - - We may be in serious trouble. But relax and have a great year of sailing. Pray for rain on the weekdays and sunny, breezy days on the weekends. On the light side of the article; My Mother suggested I get a haircut. Dave * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dave Shearer" Subject: Re: (utah-sailing) Crane Day/Shallow Lake Date: 05 Mar 2003 14:28:31 -0700 Brad Thanks for the info. I feel these crane days will be much smaller than the March crane day therefore I would do them on a weekday instead. More economical. I can't see the late April crane being any larger than 3 or 4 boats. But there is no way I will give up the RC racing. Might possible have a surprise. Dave ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- Reply-To: utah-sailing@lists.xmission.com > >FYI, > >April 5th is the Member's Cup and April 25th is RC racing. > >Brad > > > > >From: "Dave Shearer" @lists.xmission.com on 03/05/2003 > 01:28 PM > >Please respond to utah-sailing@lists.xmission.com > >Sent by: owner-utah-sailing@lists.xmission.com > > >To: utah-sailing@lists.xmission.com >cc: >Subject: (utah-sailing) Crane Day/Shallow Lake > > >To those who have been inquiring about another crane day after the >March 22nd one. We will be having at least one crane and possibly >two in April. > >The first date being kicked around is April 3, 4, or 5. > >The second date being kicked around is April 24, 25, or 26. > >Give me your feedback. > > >As for the Tribune article and the lake. Do not know how AP found >out about a crane day or why they thought all these boats were >pulling out because of the shallow water. The situation is not >nearly as serious as the Tribune article made it sound. Nor did I >pull my boat as stated in the article. Nor was that my boat >hanging on the crane as stated in the article. Nor did I say the >situation was "worse than I expected". Just goes to show you >can't believe everything you read in the paper. > >I can't tell you how many people have called me over the article >panicking about pulling their boats and when the next crane day >will be. If the mouth of the marina gets dredged as planned this >spring then all the boats will be able to sail this spring and >summer. only a very few boats may be in trouble by fall. The vast >majority of people will have a great sailing season with no >trouble of shallow water. > >The marina is 8 1/2 to 9 1/2 feet right now. The mouth is 7 feet >at the shallow spot. Deep channel is 9 to 14 feet deep >consistantly. I would guess that we will drop 1 1/2 to 2 feet at >most by November. (only my estimate). This would mean that anyone >with 5 feet or less draft should be fine through next winter. >BUT - - - If we have another disastrous winter like this one - - - >We may be in serious trouble. > >But relax and have a great year of sailing. Pray for rain on the >weekdays and sunny, breezy days on the weekends. > > >On the light side of the article; My Mother suggested I get a >haircut. > >Dave > > > > > > >* Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: >* http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing >* To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with >* the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). > > > > > > > >* Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: >* http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing >* To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with >* the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). > > * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: darinc@attbi.com Subject: Re: (utah-sailing) Crane Day/Shallow Lake Date: 06 Mar 2003 00:02:53 +0000 Speaking of RC sailing, there is a really nice pond at the Hilton west of the airport. Several feet deep, grass, a couple of nice patio/docks, and acres of water. The Hilton desk says we can sail there as long as we don't chase the ducks. Theres even a restaurant and a bar. I think we should have an informal sailing there and see if we want to hold some of our regattas there. Brin a kayak to set the marks and lets race! > Brad > > Thanks for the info. > > I feel these crane days will be much smaller than the March crane > day therefore I would do them on a weekday instead. More > economical. I can't see the late April crane being any larger > than 3 or 4 boats. > > But there is no way I will give up the RC racing. Might possible > have a surprise. > > Dave > > > > ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > From: "Brad J Silver" > Reply-To: utah-sailing@lists.xmission.com > Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 14:12:17 -0700 > > > > >FYI, > > > >April 5th is the Member's Cup and April 25th is RC racing. > > > >Brad > > > > > > > > > >From: "Dave Shearer" @lists.xmission.com > on 03/05/2003 > > 01:28 PM > > > >Please respond to utah-sailing@lists.xmission.com > > > >Sent by: owner-utah-sailing@lists.xmission.com > > > > > >To: utah-sailing@lists.xmission.com > >cc: > >Subject: (utah-sailing) Crane Day/Shallow Lake > > > > > >To those who have been inquiring about another crane day after the > >March 22nd one. We will be having at least one crane and possibly > >two in April. > > > >The first date being kicked around is April 3, 4, or 5. > > > >The second date being kicked around is April 24, 25, or 26. > > > >Give me your feedback. > > > > > >As for the Tribune article and the lake. Do not know how AP found > >out about a crane day or why they thought all these boats were > >pulling out because of the shallow water. The situation is not > >nearly as serious as the Tribune article made it sound. Nor did I > >pull my boat as stated in the article. Nor was that my boat > >hanging on the crane as stated in the article. Nor did I say the > >situation was "worse than I expected". Just goes to show you > >can't believe everything you read in the paper. > > > >I can't tell you how many people have called me over the article > >panicking about pulling their boats and when the next crane day > >will be. If the mouth of the marina gets dredged as planned this > >spring then all the boats will be able to sail this spring and > >summer. only a very few boats may be in trouble by fall. The vast > >majority of people will have a great sailing season with no > >trouble of shallow water. > > > >The marina is 8 1/2 to 9 1/2 feet right now. The mouth is 7 feet > >at the shallow spot. Deep channel is 9 to 14 feet deep > >consistantly. I would guess that we will drop 1 1/2 to 2 feet at > >most by November. (only my estimate). This would mean that anyone > >with 5 feet or less draft should be fine through next winter. > >BUT - - - If we have another disastrous winter like this one - - - > >We may be in serious trouble. > > > >But relax and have a great year of sailing. Pray for rain on the > >weekdays and sunny, breezy days on the weekends. > > > > > >On the light side of the article; My Mother suggested I get a > >haircut. > > > >Dave > > > > > > > > > > > > > >* Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: > >* http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing > >* To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with > >* the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >* Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: > >* http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing > >* To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with > >* the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). > > > > > > > > > > > > * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: > * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing > * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with > * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). > * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Smith5385@aol.com Subject: Re: (utah-sailing) Crane Day/Shallow Lake Date: 06 Mar 2003 22:55:19 EST --part1_131.1bb68bcf.2b997227_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dave you rock brother stu --part1_131.1bb68bcf.2b997227_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dave
you rock brother

stu --part1_131.1bb68bcf.2b997227_boundary-- * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dave Shearer" Subject: (utah-sailing) Crane Days Date: 10 Mar 2003 15:30:30 -0700 Update on potential April Cranes Have solidified some plans for April cranes There will be a crane day Thursday April 24th. I am also tentatively scheduling a crane day on Thursday April 3rd if there is enough interest. If you want to be on any of those dates please let me know along with the weight and draft of your boat. These are factors as to where we pull boats since D dock is quite shallow now along with knowing what size crane to order. I will order the smallest crane for the job in order to save money. you can email me or call at 261-0300 Thanks Dave Shearer * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bryant Pratt" Subject: (utah-sailing) NO SEMINAR THIS WEEK Date: 10 Mar 2003 17:26:15 -0700 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01B7_01C2E72A.2720F830 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Fellow Sailors, There will be NO seminar this Wednesday night, March 12. On the following Wednesday night, March 19, the topic for the eighth = session of the Great Salt Lake Yacht Club's FREE Sailing Seminars will be SAILING RESOURCES. =20 This and all sessions will be held from 7:00 to 8:30 PM in the Whitmore Library Auditorium (in the basement) at 2197 East Fort Union Blvd (7000 = S.) in Salt Lake County. It is easily accessed from the 2000 East exit of = I-215 by driving south for 1/2 mi. on 2000 E. then east for 1/2 mile on Ft. = Union to the light at Whitmore Way -- enter the lot from Whitmore Way. Door prizes! Bring your friends! See you there! Bry Pratt ------=_NextPart_000_01B7_01C2E72A.2720F830 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Fellow=20 Sailors,
 
There will=20 be NO seminar this Wednesday night, March 12.

On the following Wednesday night, March 19, the topic for=20 the eighth session of the
Great Salt Lake Yacht Club's FREE = Sailing=20 Seminars will be SAILING
RESOURCES. 

This and all sessions will be held from 7:00 to 8:30 PM in the=20 Whitmore
Library Auditorium (in the basement) at 2197 East Fort Union = Blvd=20 (7000 S.)
in Salt Lake County.  It is easily accessed from the = 2000 East=20 exit of I-215
by driving south for 1/2 mi. on 2000 E. then east for = 1/2 mile=20 on Ft. Union
to the light at Whitmore Way -- enter the lot from = Whitmore=20 Way.
Door prizes!  Bring your friends!  See you = there!

Bry=20 Pratt
 ------=_NextPart_000_01B7_01C2E72A.2720F830-- * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Carr, Robert" Subject: RE: (utah-sailing) Crane Days Date: 11 Mar 2003 06:19:19 -0700 Dave, I'm interested on the day with the most participants (to lower the = cost, I'm cheap). I've got the Ranger 23, ~4,000 pounds and <4 feet draft. Let me know which day has the most support, count me in that pool. BTW - how is my engine tune up coming? Bob Carr -----Original Message----- Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 3:31 PM Update on potential April Cranes Have solidified some plans for April cranes There will be a crane day Thursday April 24th. I am also tentatively scheduling a crane day on Thursday April 3rd=20 if there is enough interest. If you want to be on any of those dates please let me know along=20 with the weight and draft of your boat. These are factors as to=20 where we pull boats since D dock is quite shallow now along with=20 knowing what size crane to order. I will order the smallest crane=20 for the job in order to save money. you can email me or call at 261-0300 Thanks Dave Shearer =20 =20 =20 * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kitts, Jan (MED, OEC)" Subject: (utah-sailing) Trib Ad Date: 13 Mar 2003 12:56:42 -0600 Did any of you see the Friends for Floyd ad in the Tribune earlier this week? It asks the governor to proclaim a wild flamingo sanctuary on the Great Salt Lake. It asks, "Can you imagine thousands of flamingos living free and happy on the Great Salt Lake?" Interesting idea. For questions, comments, information, bumper stickers, etc., e-mail friendsforfloyd@webtv.net . Jan * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: WORLDWIDE TRAVEL + AUSTRALIA TRAVEL FREE Date: 13 Mar 2003 16:17:09 +0900 WORLD WIDE TRAVEL - FREE FIND OUT HOW YOU CAN GET TO SYDNEY FROM ANYWHERE IN AUSTRALIA FREE AIRFARE - MAJOR AIRLINE FREE LIMO TRANSFER - MERCEDES PLUS CHAUFFER FREE HOTEL ROOM - EXECUTIVE SUITE FREE DINNER - TOP SYDNEY RESTAURANT SYDNEY RESIDENTS LIMO TRANSFER FROM RESIDENCE TO HOTEL ROOM CALL MISS PENELOPPE GRAY SYDNEY EVENT TRAVEL PTY LTD IN CONJUNCTION WITH MODEL ENTERPRISE PTY LTD SYDNEY AUSTRALIA 02 96900652 INTERNATIONAL - 0011 61 2 96900652 INTERNATIONAL CLIENTS ---- FIND OUT HOW YOU CAN GET FREE AIRFARE FROM ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD ALSO ENQUIRE ABOUT FIRST CLASS - FREE TRAVEL 9569pFWU9-575YqRc1080PRIG2-592Gobx8943kl37 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brad J Silver" Subject: (utah-sailing) Murphy's Cup Date: 14 Mar 2003 07:49:29 -0700 The Great Salt Lake Yacht Club Presents "The Murphy's Cup" This year it will be RC Boat Racing! Join us at the Great Salt Lake Marina for the Murphy's Cup Remote Co= ntrol Sailboat Racing! Sunday, March 16th Skippers Meeting at the Yacht Club 12:00 noon, Yell= ow Flag at 1:00 p.m. Open to all RC Boat Owners! Open Class Racing Please register your radio channel before race day! Entrance fee is one dollar! The winners will be awarded all entrance fees!!! Spectator's welcome! Questions ??? Brad Silver - GSLSailor@aol.com= * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dave Shearer" Subject: (utah-sailing) Firmed up Crane Days Date: 14 Mar 2003 15:59:22 -0700 Have firmed up April Crane dates There WILL be an April 3rd Crane There WILL be an April 24th Crane These crane dates are both on Thursday in order to save money. (Cranes are expensive on weekends and only economical with a larger group of people) I will be ordering the smallest crane possible for the weight of the boat. For anyone interested in these crane dates please email me or call me at 261-0300 Please provide information on type of boat and weight of boat. Thanks Dave Shearer * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SAIL.RAY@att.net Subject: Re: (utah-sailing) Firmed up Crane Days Date: 14 Mar 2003 23:17:37 +0000 Dave, did not hear back from you on my boat trailer for sale. I really don't feel like driving up and towing it to LA. I'll take $1,500 for it right now. Otherwise I'll come and get it in April. Ray Tostado 213/250-2893 > Have firmed up April Crane dates > > > There WILL be an April 3rd Crane > > There WILL be an April 24th Crane > > These crane dates are both on Thursday in order to save money. > (Cranes are expensive on weekends and only economical with a > larger group of people) > > I will be ordering the smallest crane possible for the weight of > the boat. For anyone interested in these crane dates please email > me or call me at 261-0300 > > Please provide information on type of boat and weight of boat. > > Thanks > > Dave Shearer > > > > > > > * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: > * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing > * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with > * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). > * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dave Shearer" Subject: Re: (utah-sailing) Firmed up Crane Days Date: 14 Mar 2003 17:06:44 -0700 Ray Sorry. I'll take a look at the trailer this week. Dave ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- Reply-To: utah-sailing@lists.xmission.com >Dave, did not hear back from you on my boat trailer for sale. I really don't >feel like driving up and towing it to LA. I'll take $1,500 for it right now. >Otherwise I'll come and get it in April. > >Ray Tostado > >213/250-2893 >> Have firmed up April Crane dates >> >> >> There WILL be an April 3rd Crane >> >> There WILL be an April 24th Crane >> >> These crane dates are both on Thursday in order to save money. >> (Cranes are expensive on weekends and only economical with a >> larger group of people) >> >> I will be ordering the smallest crane possible for the weight of >> the boat. For anyone interested in these crane dates please email >> me or call me at 261-0300 >> >> Please provide information on type of boat and weight of boat. >> >> Thanks >> >> Dave Shearer >> >> >> >> >> >> >> * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: >> * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing >> * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with >> * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). >> > > >* Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: >* http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing >* To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with >* the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). > > * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Wes Peters Subject: Re: (utah-sailing) Trib Ad Date: 14 Mar 2003 18:52:58 -0800 On Thursday 13 March 2003 10:56, Kitts, Jan (MED, OEC) wrote: > Did any of you see the Friends for Floyd ad in the Tribune earlier > this week? It asks the governor to proclaim a wild flamingo > sanctuary on the Great Salt Lake. It asks, "Can you imagine > thousands of flamingos living free and happy on the Great Salt Lake?" Can flamingos survive on brine shrimp? If so, do they maintain their pink color? Enquiring minds want to know. -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters wes@softweyr.com * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Robert McClane Subject: Re: (utah-sailing) Trib Ad Date: 14 Mar 2003 23:07:23 -0700 The color comes from a particular carotenoid, a group of pigments which happen to be abundant in the type of algae in our lake (being a nerd interested in carotenoids, I analyzed some scrapings from the bottom of Blue Moon). >Can flamingos survive on brine shrimp? If so, do they maintain their >pink color? Enquiring minds want to know. >Wes Peters wes@softweyr.com -- Robert W. McClane Center for Biomedical Optics Dixon Laser Institute University of Utah r.mcclane@m.cc.utah.edu 801-581-7001 Phone 801-585-3098 FAX * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Darin Christensen" Subject: Re: (utah-sailing) Trib Ad Date: 15 Mar 2003 09:24:22 -0700 I missed the Floyd thing in the paper. What day was it in? ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 11:07 PM > The color comes from a particular carotenoid, a group of pigments > which happen to be abundant in the type of algae in our lake (being a > nerd interested in carotenoids, I analyzed some scrapings from the > bottom of Blue Moon). > > >Can flamingos survive on brine shrimp? If so, do they maintain their > >pink color? Enquiring minds want to know. > > >Wes Peters wes@softweyr.com > > -- > Robert W. McClane > Center for Biomedical Optics > Dixon Laser Institute > University of Utah > r.mcclane@m.cc.utah.edu > 801-581-7001 Phone > 801-585-3098 FAX > > * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: > * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing > * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with > * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). > > * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bryant Pratt" Subject: Re: (utah-sailing) Trib Ad Date: 15 Mar 2003 12:58:11 -0700 Here's another opinion on the Pink Floyd friend idea from Tom Wharton in today's Trib. http://www.sltrib.com/2003/Mar/03152003/utah/38506.asp Bryant Prtt ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 9:24 AM > I missed the Floyd thing in the paper. What day was it in? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert McClane" > To: > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 11:07 PM > Subject: Re: (utah-sailing) Trib Ad > > > > The color comes from a particular carotenoid, a group of pigments > > which happen to be abundant in the type of algae in our lake (being a > > nerd interested in carotenoids, I analyzed some scrapings from the > > bottom of Blue Moon). > > > > >Can flamingos survive on brine shrimp? If so, do they maintain their > > >pink color? Enquiring minds want to know. > > > > >Wes Peters wes@softweyr.com > > > > -- > > Robert W. McClane > > Center for Biomedical Optics > > Dixon Laser Institute > > University of Utah * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Darin Christensen" Subject: (utah-sailing) Fw: Promontory Point Landfill Alert Date: 16 Mar 2003 17:22:16 -0700 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0059_01C2EBE0.977823F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Please Broadcast via email to Membersfrom: Bill Hanewinkel (FOGSL = Mailmeister) To All FRIENDS of Great Salt Lake =20 There is a public hearing before the Box Elder Planning Commission on = March 20th at 6:30PM at the Brigham City Courthouse. This hearing is = about a request for a conditional use permit by Promontory LLC to = establish a municipal landfill on Promontory Peninsula. Please come to the hearing next Thursday and share your concerns = about this kind of land use and the impacts it will have not only on the = residents of Box Elder County but the neighbors of Great Salt Lake.=20 Below is some general information about the issue that is also posted = on our website: www.fogsl.org Please check the website for updates. In saline. Lynn de FReitas, president =20 4th Largest Landfill in the Nation is Proposed for Promontory Peninsula Promontory LLC=20 Promontory Landfill Facility =20 Class I Landfill Permit Application Less than 20 miles from Gunnison Island, a protected sanctuary for = breeding populations of the American White Pelican,slightly more than 10 = miles from Utah=B9s first national wildlife refuge established in 1928, = and 25 miles, as the gull flies, from a national historic site that = celebrates the completion of the transcontinental railroad in 1869, = Promontory LLC (the facility owner) and municipalities and counties of = the State of Utah are investigating the feasibility of creating the = nation=B9s 4th largest landfill.=20 A Class I Landfill on the southwest portion of Promontory Point = Peninsula, Box Elder County,Utah would be located on the west side of = the southern tip of the peninsula and create a visual blight of = approximately 3.5 sq. miles on the landscape. The facility would consist of a 1,000 acre landfill and a buffer of = 1,006 acres and would receive household wastes from 9 counties around = Great Salt Lake. Since household wastes are exempted from hazardous = waste regulations, low level hazardous wastes like infectious waste, = heavy metals, solvents, and a variety of organic compounds such as PCBs, = would end up in the landfill. Proposed transport of the waste would be by way of the Union Pacific = Railroad causeway, a private dike across Great Salt Lake Minerals and an = already existing county road. At this time, the Division of Solid and = Hazardous Waste does not consider the county road a viable route because = of its distance and condition. Tooele County is considering shipping garbage across the lake by barge. Because this would involve the transportation of waste across sovereign = lands,Tooele County would need to request a permit from the Division of = Forestry, Fire and State Lands to do so. On Thursday, March 20th at 6:30 PM at the Brigham City Courthouse, the = Box Elder Planning Commission will hold a public hearing on the = conditional use permit for the facility.This hearing would be the best = opportunity for us to express our concerns about this facility and its = impacts. If the planning commission decides to issue this permit, the = door is essentially open for this project to move forward.=20 At the same time, Promontory LLC has filed for a permit from the State = Division of Solid and Hazardous Waste to satisfy the state=B9s = regulatory requirements.Construction of the proposed Class I Landfill = would begin soon after approval of the Permit Application, public = commenting on the permit request and finally a permit issuance by the = Department of Environmental Quality.=20 Salt Lake City based Pacific West, an environmental clean up and = engineering company, would manage the landfill. Pacific West has been = involved in the clean up of contaminated soils near railroad lines.=20 As stated in the permit application, the purpose and need for the = landfill results from the expanding waste disposal needs of the rapidly = growing population in Northern Utah. And claims that many of the = existing landfills along the Wasatch Front are near closure or are under = scrutiny due to encroachment of expanding urban areas.=20 Utah already has the dubious honor of having the 2nd largest landfill in = the nation, located in Carbon County. This is a perfect time for all of = us to think carefully about our future and about the huge quantities of = garbage that we=B9ll be generating as we continue to grow. And although this is a county decision, we are all neighbors on Great = Salt Lake. Not only is the lake a precious ecosystem for our resident = wildlife and millions of migratory birds that rely on it for fueling, = resting and nesting. But Great Salt Lake is a tremendous resource, that = we not only share together as neighbors, but that we share with the = world as a extraordinary ecosystem of great importance. Although we are against a landfill facilty on Promontory Peninsula, we = also have to be sensitive to the economic and development needs that = exist in Box Elder County.=20 How can we responsibly help serve the needs of Box Elder County so that = it can generate economic development that would not only compliment the = interests and property values of its own residents, but would also = compliment the efforts that are coming from its neighbors to preserve , = protect and promote the importance of Great Salt Lake throughout the = world? A copy of the permit application is available for public review at the = Division of Solid and Hazardous Waste which is located in the Canon = Health Bldg at 288 North 1460 West, Salt Lake City. Or contact Carl = Wadsworth at 801-538-6769. ------=_NextPart_000_0059_01C2EBE0.977823F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Please Broadcast via email to Members
from: Bill Hanewinkel (FOGSL = Mailmeister) <bhanewin@softcom.net><= /DIV>

 
To All FRIENDS of Great Salt=20 Lake
   
   There is a public = hearing before=20 the Box Elder Planning Commission on March 20th at 6:30PM at the Brigham = City=20 Courthouse. This hearing is about a request for a conditional use permit = by=20 Promontory LLC to establish a municipal landfill on Promontory=20 Peninsula.
   Please come to the hearing next Thursday = and=20 share your concerns about this kind of land use and the impacts it will = have not=20 only on the residents of Box Elder County but the neighbors of Great = Salt Lake.=20
   Below is some general information about the issue = that is=20 also posted on our website: www.fogsl.org=20  Please check the website for updates.
   In = saline. Lynn=20 de FReitas, president
  

4th Largest Landfill in the = Nation=20 is Proposed for Promontory Peninsula

Promontory LLC =
Promontory=20 Landfill Facility  
Class I Landfill Permit = Application


Less=20 than 20 miles from Gunnison Island, a protected sanctuary for breeding=20 populations of the American White Pelican,slightly more than 10 miles = from=20 Utah=B9s first national wildlife refuge established in 1928, and 25 = miles, as the=20 gull flies, from a national historic site that celebrates the completion = of the=20 transcontinental railroad in 1869, Promontory LLC (the facility owner) = and=20 municipalities and counties of the State of Utah are investigating the=20 feasibility of creating the nation=B9s 4th largest landfill.

A = Class I=20 Landfill on the southwest portion of Promontory Point Peninsula, Box = Elder=20 County,Utah would be located on the west side of the southern tip of the = peninsula and create a visual blight of approximately 3.5 sq. miles on = the=20 landscape.

The facility would consist of a 1,000 acre landfill = and a=20 buffer of 1,006 acres and would receive household wastes from 9 counties = around=20 Great Salt Lake. Since household wastes are exempted from hazardous = waste=20 regulations, low level hazardous wastes like infectious waste, heavy = metals,=20 solvents, and a variety of organic compounds such as PCBs, would end up = in the=20 landfill.

Proposed transport of the waste would be by way of the = Union=20 Pacific Railroad causeway, a private dike across Great Salt Lake = Minerals and an=20 already existing county road. At this time, the Division of Solid and = Hazardous=20 Waste does not consider the county road a viable route because of its = distance=20 and condition.

Tooele County is considering shipping garbage = across the=20 lake by barge.
Because this would involve the transportation of waste = across=20 sovereign lands,Tooele County would need to request a permit from the = Division=20 of Forestry, Fire and State Lands to do so.

On Thursday, March = 20th at=20 6:30 PM at the Brigham City Courthouse, the Box Elder Planning = Commission will=20 hold a public hearing on the conditional use permit for the = facility.This=20 hearing would be the best opportunity for us to express our concerns = about this=20 facility and its impacts. If the planning commission decides to issue = this=20 permit, the door is essentially open for this project to move forward.=20

At the same time, Promontory LLC has filed for a permit from the = State=20 Division of Solid and Hazardous Waste to satisfy the state=B9s = regulatory=20 requirements.Construction of the proposed Class I Landfill would begin = soon=20 after approval of the Permit Application, public commenting on the = permit=20 request and finally a permit issuance by the Department of Environmental = Quality.

Salt Lake City based Pacific West, an environmental = clean up=20 and engineering company, would manage the landfill. Pacific West has = been=20 involved in the clean up of contaminated soils near railroad lines. =

As=20 stated in the permit application, the purpose and need for the landfill = results=20 from the expanding waste disposal needs of the rapidly growing = population in=20 Northern Utah. And claims that many of the existing landfills along the = Wasatch=20 Front are near closure or are under scrutiny due to encroachment of = expanding=20 urban areas.

Utah already has the dubious honor of having the = 2nd=20 largest landfill in the nation, located in Carbon County. This is a = perfect time=20 for all of us to think carefully about our future and about the huge = quantities=20 of garbage that we=B9ll be generating as we continue to grow.

And = although=20 this is a county decision, we are all neighbors on Great Salt Lake. Not = only is=20 the lake a precious ecosystem for our resident wildlife and millions of=20 migratory birds that rely on it for fueling, resting and nesting. But = Great Salt=20 Lake is a tremendous resource, that we not only share together as = neighbors, but=20 that we share with the world as a extraordinary ecosystem of great=20 importance.

Although we are against a landfill facilty on = Promontory=20 Peninsula, we also have to be sensitive to the economic and development = needs=20 that exist in Box Elder County.

How can we responsibly help = serve the=20 needs of Box Elder County so that it can generate economic development = that=20 would not only compliment the interests and property values of its own=20 residents, but would also compliment the efforts that are coming from = its=20 neighbors to preserve , protect and promote the importance of Great Salt = Lake=20 throughout the world?

A copy of the permit application is = available for=20 public review at the Division of Solid and Hazardous Waste which is = located in=20 the Canon Health Bldg at 288 North 1460 West, Salt Lake City. Or contact = Carl=20 Wadsworth at 801-538-6769.



 ------=_NextPart_000_0059_01C2EBE0.977823F0-- * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Colin Patten" Subject: Re: (utah-sailing) Fw: Promontory Point Landfill Alert Date: 16 Mar 2003 19:51:09 -0700

Dear Darin,

I'm sorry that I can't attend the meeting on Thursday, but would like to be kept informed of events.

In my opinion it is the wrong time to be looking at more landfill while there are many other options.

Colin G Patten
71 Apricot Avenue
Salt Lake City
Utah 84103
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MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bryant Pratt" Subject: (utah-sailing) Sailing Resources Seminar Date: 17 Mar 2003 14:44:14 -0700 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_011C_01C2EC93.AE4F3790 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Fellow Boaters, On this Wednesday night, March 19, the topic for the eighth session of = the Great Salt Lake Yacht Club's FREE Sailing Seminars will be SAILING RESOURCES. About a dozen people representing vendors, services, and = organizations which support sailing and boating in Utah will make brief = presentations. This and all sessions will be held from 7:00 to 8:30 PM in the Whitmore Library Auditorium (in the basement) at 2197 East Fort Union Blvd (7000 = S.) in Salt Lake County. It is easily accessed from the 2000 East exit of = I-215 by driving south for 1/2 mi. on 2000 E. then east for 1/2 mile on Ft. = Union to the light at Whitmore Way -- enter the lot from Whitmore Way. Door prizes! Bring your friends! See you there! After the seminar, we are all invited to join the "After Library Hours = Pub Group" to continue the sailing conversations at a venue TBA. Bry Pratt ------=_NextPart_000_011C_01C2EC93.AE4F3790 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Fellow=20 Boaters,

On this Wednesday night, March 19,  the topic for = the=20 eighth session of the
Great Salt Lake Yacht Club's FREE Sailing = Seminars will=20 be SAILING
RESOURCES.  About a dozen people = representing=20 vendors, services, and organizations which support sailing and = boating in=20 Utah will make brief presentations.

This and all sessions will be = held=20 from 7:00 to 8:30 PM in the Whitmore
Library Auditorium (in the = basement) at=20 2197 East Fort Union Blvd (7000 S.)
in Salt Lake County.  It is = easily=20 accessed from the 2000 East exit of I-215
by driving south for 1/2 = mi. on=20 2000 E. then east for 1/2 mile on Ft. Union
to the light at Whitmore = Way --=20 enter the lot from Whitmore Way.
Door prizes!  Bring your = friends! =20 See you there!
 
After the=20 seminar, we are all invited to join the "After Library Hours Pub = Group" to=20 continue the sailing conversations at a venue TBA.

Bry=20 Pratt
 ------=_NextPart_000_011C_01C2EC93.AE4F3790-- * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: meek@mech.utah.edu (Sanford Meek) Subject: (utah-sailing) Hunting on Fremont Date: 20 Mar 2003 13:31:52 -0700 I just got back in town and saw an article in the Desperate News about a private hunting reserve on Fremont Island. It's been leased for 12 years and sheep and bison are being taken to the island. They intend to have private hunting on bison but still allow hiking. They intend to take people to the island via a barge for $30 a day and include a horse or atv. There was no mention of sailing to the island. In the past this was no problem as the owners didn't mind as long as you didn't disturb the place. What's going to happen now for sailors???? Anyone know more? Sandy Sanford Meek University of Utah Department of Mechanical Engineering 50 S Central Campus Dr, Rm 2110 Salt Lake City, UT 84112-9208 (801)581-8562 meek@mech.utah.edu * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Carr, Robert" Subject: (utah-sailing) RE: (Utah-sailing) Hunting on Fremont Date: 20 Mar 2003 13:51:13 -0700 Actually, I thought this project was dead. The "ferry" was to depart = from the AI marina, and the park management did not concur with this use = of the marina. Not sure if they got another departure location or not. Bob Carr Amazing Grace -----Original Message----- Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 1:32 PM I just got back in town and saw an article in the Desperate News about a private hunting reserve on Fremont Island. It's been leased for 12 = years and sheep and bison are being taken to the island. They intend to have private hunting on bison but still allow hiking. They intend to take people to the island via a barge for $30 a day and include a horse or = atv. There was no mention of sailing to the island. In the past this was no problem as the owners didn't mind as long as you didn't disturb the = place. What's going to happen now for sailors???? Anyone know more? Sandy Sanford Meek University of Utah Department of Mechanical Engineering 50 S Central Campus Dr, Rm 2110 Salt Lake City, UT 84112-9208 (801)581-8562 meek@mech.utah.edu * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dave Shearer" Subject: Re: (utah-sailing) Hunting on Fremont Date: 20 Mar 2003 14:33:40 -0700 Sandy Actually sailing to the island was always illegal. We have just been trespassing. The owners have never given permission to sailors for unlimited access to the island. The Richards family has leased the island to a group who plan to do controlled hunting. But this is not all they do. They are doing horse back riding tours and boat tours to the island. They have Boy Scout tours already planned. I have talked to the new leasee. Many of is ideas sound interesting. This may actually free up the island more for the sailors. When I talked to Justin, he was ameanable to the sailors visiting the island. He would just like prior notice so that you are not ticketed as a trespasser and are not in harm of an organized hunt. For those that want an organized tour of the island this can be arranged for $30.00 per person. You may sail your own boat or take their boat from Antelope Island. There was no fee for just visiting the island with your own boat as long as you had prior permission. Dave ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- Reply-To: utah-sailing@lists.xmission.com >I just got back in town and saw an article in the Desperate News about a >private hunting reserve on Fremont Island. It's been leased for 12 years >and sheep and bison are being taken to the island. They intend to have >private hunting on bison but still allow hiking. They intend to take >people to the island via a barge for $30 a day and include a horse or atv. > >There was no mention of sailing to the island. In the past this was no >problem as the owners didn't mind as long as you didn't disturb the place. > >What's going to happen now for sailors???? > >Anyone know more? > > >Sandy > > >Sanford Meek >University of Utah >Department of Mechanical Engineering >50 S Central Campus Dr, Rm 2110 >Salt Lake City, UT 84112-9208 >(801)581-8562 >meek@mech.utah.edu > > > >* Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: >* http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing >* To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with >* the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). > > * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ottair@aol.com Subject: (utah-sailing) Bottom Paint Date: 21 Mar 2003 11:02:37 EST --part1_94.35bbf5a0.2bac919d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi I got some bottom slime on the Desert Swallow last year, the few days I left her in the water. It was fairly easy to clean up (none of the hull cleaners worked very well but ZAP worked great) but I would like to prevent it. Does anyone recommend a product for slime protection in the GSL? Steve ~~~_/)~~~ --part1_94.35bbf5a0.2bac919d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi
I got some bottom slime on the Desert Swallow last year, the few days I left= her in the water. It was fairly easy to clean up (none of the hull cleaners= worked very well but ZAP worked great) but I would like to prevent it. Does= anyone recommend a product for slime protection in the GSL?

Steve
~~~_/)~~~ --part1_94.35bbf5a0.2bac919d_boundary-- * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dave Shearer" Subject: Re: (utah-sailing) Bottom Paint Date: 21 Mar 2003 09:21:19 -0700 Steve Are you going to be trailer sailing or keep it in all the time? If trailer sailing then you need an ablative paint. Micron Extra or Micron CSC have proven well for the lake. Stay away from west marine paints (not West Marine itself, just their ablative and modified epoxy paints). These paints have not proven as well for this environment although they are more affordable than the Interlux family of paints. Dave ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- Reply-To: utah-sailing@lists.xmission.com >Hi >I got some bottom slime on the Desert Swallow last year, the few days I left >her in the water. It was fairly easy to clean up (none of the hull cleaners >worked very well but ZAP worked great) but I would like to prevent it. Does >anyone recommend a product for slime protection in the GSL? > >Steve >~~~_/)~~~ > > * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: meek@mech.utah.edu (Sanford Meek) Subject: Re: (utah-sailing) Hunting on Fremont Date: 21 Mar 2003 16:58:41 -0700 At 14:33 3/20/3 -0700, Dave Shearer wrote: >Sandy > >Actually sailing to the island was always illegal. We have just >been trespassing. The owners have never given permission to >sailors for unlimited access to the island. Me, Trespass? Never! What island? Never been there. >I have talked to the new leasee. Many of is ideas sound >interesting. This may actually free up the island more for the >sailors. When I talked to Justin, he was ameanable to the sailors >visiting the island. He would just like prior notice so that you >are not ticketed as a trespasser and are not in harm of an >organized hunt. Do you have a number to call for permission? Thanks; Sandy Sanford Meek University of Utah Department of Mechanical Engineering 50 S Central Campus Dr, Rm 2110 Salt Lake City, UT 84112-9208 (801)581-8562 meek@mech.utah.edu * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dave Shearer" Subject: Re: (utah-sailing) Hunting on Fremont Date: 21 Mar 2003 19:06:55 -0700 Sandy Cool response. Got a laugh. Do not want to publish the number on the internet without permission. Please give me a call at the shop 261-0300 (Have permission to publish this one) and I will be happy to give you the gentlemans name and number. Dave ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- Reply-To: utah-sailing@lists.xmission.com >At 14:33 3/20/3 -0700, Dave Shearer wrote: >>Sandy >> >>Actually sailing to the island was always illegal. We have just >>been trespassing. The owners have never given permission to >>sailors for unlimited access to the island. > >Me, Trespass? Never! What island? Never been there. > > >>I have talked to the new leasee. Many of is ideas sound >>interesting. This may actually free up the island more for the >>sailors. When I talked to Justin, he was ameanable to the sailors >>visiting the island. He would just like prior notice so that you >>are not ticketed as a trespasser and are not in harm of an >>organized hunt. > >Do you have a number to call for permission? > >Thanks; > >Sandy > > >Sanford Meek >University of Utah >Department of Mechanical Engineering >50 S Central Campus Dr, Rm 2110 >Salt Lake City, UT 84112-9208 >(801)581-8562 >meek@mech.utah.edu > > > >* Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: >* http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing >* To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with >* the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). > > * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: ENHANCED EJECULATION -EXCELLENT ADVICE Date: 23 Mar 2003 03:51:19 -1100 EXPERIENCE EXCELLENT EJACULATION VERY IMPORTANT NOTICE FOR MEN AND WOMAN TOTALLY IMPROVES YOUR SEX LIFE BEYOND YOUR DREAMS TRUE STORY - PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU CONSULT YOUR DOCTOR WITH THE INFORMATION I GIVE YOU AND HE WILL CONFIRM REMEMBER SIMPLICITY IS THE HARDEST THING TO FIND I HAVE HAD TESTICULAR CANCER/ PLUS SECONDARY CANCER IN THE LYMPH NODES AND I SUFFERED FOR 15 YEARS RETROGRADE EJACULATION - I WAS DIAGNOSED WITH SIX MONTHS TO LIVE I BEAT THE SYSTEM - BUT SEXUAL PROBLEMS OCCURRED I WAS DETERMINED NEVER TO BE BEATEN NO MATTER HOW LONG IT TOOK AFTER 15 YEARS I HAVE FOUND THE DRUG COMBINATION THAT HAS NOW GIVEN ME A POWERFUL EJACULATION. FOR THOSE SUFFERING FROM RETROGRADE EJACULATION OR DIMINISHED EJACULATION PLEASE CONTACT ME AT PLEASE SEND $5 TO MEDICAL QUESTIONS 2/70 DEVONSHIRE STREET SURRY HILLS SYDNEY NEW SOUTH WALES AUSTRALIA 2008 I WILL THEN EMAIL YOU THE DRUG COMBINATION SECRETALONG WITH RELEVANT INFORMATION TO BE GIVEN TO YOUR DOCTOR TO PRESCRIBE FOR YOU AND YOU WILL EXPERIENCE AN UNBELIEVABLE EJACULATION 24 HOUR TURNAROUND- I HOPE I CAN HELP YOU IN LIFE PLEASE TREAT THIS AS SERIOUS SEXUAL MEDICAL INFORMATION I HOPE THIS INFORMATION WILL CHANGE YOUR LIFE 9198KbFC5-254CMin9279lQl22 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bryant Pratt" Subject: (utah-sailing) Sailboat Racing Seminar Date: 24 Mar 2003 10:13:13 -0700 Fellow Sailors, This Wednesday night, March 26, the topic for the ninth session of the Great Salt Lake Yacht Club's FREE Sailing Seminars will be SAILBOAT RACING. In this session we will discuss what it is, how it's done and how to participate at the Great Salt Lake. This and all sessions will be held from 7:00 to 8:30 PM in the Whitmore Library Auditorium (in the basement) at 2197 East Fort Union Blvd (7000 S.) in Salt Lake County. It is easily accessed from the 2000 East exit of I-215 by driving south for 1/2 mi. on 2000 E. then east for 1/2 mile on Ft. Union to the light at Whitmore Way -- enter the lot from Whitmore Way. Door prizes! Bring your friends! See you there! After the seminar, we are all invited to join the "After Library Hours Pub Group" to continue the sailing conversations at a venue TBA. Bryant Pratt * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dob bushek Subject: (utah-sailing) GSLYC Breakfast Social/Race Orientation Date: 26 Mar 2003 22:25:35 -0700 --------------1BFCEFFE40F614DA9FDAFE28 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just a reminder notice that there will be a light breakfast social prior to the GSLYC Race Orientation meeting Saturday March 29th at the South Marina. Catch up with racing folks you might not have seen over the winter months and meet folks new to GSL racing this season. Especially welcome the new "D" Fleeters - What a great idea for an addition to the racing community! --------------1BFCEFFE40F614DA9FDAFE28 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just a reminder notice that there will be a light breakfast social prior to the GSLYC Race Orientation meeting Saturday March 29th at the South Marina.  Catch up with racing folks you might not have seen over the winter months and meet folks new to GSL racing this season.  Especially welcome the new "D" Fleeters - What a great idea for an addition to the racing community! --------------1BFCEFFE40F614DA9FDAFE28-- * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brad J Silver" Subject: (utah-sailing) [GSLYC Board] GSLYC Board Concerns or tie a knot in it! Date: 27 Mar 2003 07:49:49 -0700 Forwarding............. ---------------------- Forwarded by Brad J Silver/TC/TRS/American Expre= ss on 03/27/2003 07:48 AM --------------------------- m on 03/26/2003 04:14 PM Please respond to "GSLYC Board Members' Mailing List" Sent by: gslyc-board-bounces@mailman.xmission.com on.com> cc: To all: I just got off the phone with Chris and=A0both restrooms, at the marin= a, will be renovated at the same time and the work will start on Monday.=A0 The ho= pe and expectation is that the work will be done in four weeks (and that is cl= ose to Opening Weekend).=A0 The Park will have four pot-a-potties brought in.=A0= Bring your own Baby-wipes for your hands, etc.=A0 If the work goes on through= Opening Weekend, more potties will be brought in.=A0 To add to your=A0discomfo= rt, the US Geological Survey boat is blocking the holding tank pump, so you can't= use your boat head.=A0 Damn Government workers said they were going to be = there overnight (a month ago).=A0=A0 You can't trust those Federal Employees= . The channel mouth will be dredged to a nine foot depth to match most o= f the rest of the marina.=A0 There is an approximate seven foot depth at the= mouth=A0now.=A0 The question is who will pay for it.=A0 Our hope is th= at it is not Chris as that will hurt the GSL Park budget a lot.=A0=A0The crane for = that operation will be at the marina on Wednesday.=A0 Be forwarned that thi= s dredging operation is likely the last without some significant food fight for t= he next dredging dollars.=A0 Point is that other marinas are envious of our wa= ter depth. Darin, you Darlin' person (Darin Darlin), can you please discover some= way that this information is posted on our web page, quickly, and the rest= of us will advertize the Yacht Club web page. Regards ... _______________________________________________ GSLYC-Board mailing list GSLYC-Board@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gslyc-board = * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matthew D. Bennett" Subject: (utah-sailing) Any Catalina 27 trailers for sail in the area Date: 27 Mar 2003 15:38:58 -0700 All, One of my sailing buddies in California is looking for a usable trailer for his 1984 Catalina 27. I saw the custom trailer on the GSLYC bulletin board, but it is a bit pricy. Any others out there? Matt * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Daniel Merriman" Subject: Re: (utah-sailing) [GSLYC Board] GSLYC Board Concerns or tie a knot in it! Date: 27 Mar 2003 15:57:56 -0700 Yeah, I'm one of those untrustworthy Federal employees. Think about that the next time you fly! Is Race Orientation still on for this weekend? Dan ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 7:49 AM it! Forwarding............. ---------------------- Forwarded by Brad J Silver/TC/TRS/American Express on 03/27/2003 07:48 AM --------------------------- 03/26/2003 04:14 PM Please respond to "GSLYC Board Members' Mailing List" Sent by: gslyc-board-bounces@mailman.xmission.com cc: To all: I just got off the phone with Chris and both restrooms, at the marina, will be renovated at the same time and the work will start on Monday. The hope and expectation is that the work will be done in four weeks (and that is close to Opening Weekend). The Park will have four pot-a-potties brought in. Bring your own Baby-wipes for your hands, etc. If the work goes on through Opening Weekend, more potties will be brought in. To add to your discomfort, the US Geological Survey boat is blocking the holding tank pump, so you can't use your boat head. Damn Government workers said they were going to be there overnight (a month ago). You can't trust those Federal Employees. The channel mouth will be dredged to a nine foot depth to match most of the rest of the marina. There is an approximate seven foot depth at the mouth now. The question is who will pay for it. Our hope is that it is not Chris as that will hurt the GSL Park budget a lot. The crane for that operation will be at the marina on Wednesday. Be forwarned that this dredgi ng operation is likely the last without some significant food fight for the next dredging dollars. Point is that other marinas are envious of our water depth. Darin, you Darlin' person (Darin Darlin), can you please discover some way that this information is posted on our web page, quickly, and the rest of us will advertize the Yacht Club web page. Regards ... _______________________________________________ GSLYC-Board mailing list GSLYC-Board@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gslyc-board * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: meek@mech.utah.edu (Sanford Meek) Subject: (utah-sailing) Re: [GSLYC] GSLYC Breakfast Social/Race Orientation Date: 27 Mar 2003 16:11:09 -0700 At 22:25 3/26/3 -0700, dob bushek wrote: >Just a reminder notice that there will >be a light breakfast social prior to the >GSLYC Race Orientation meeting Saturday >March 29th at the South Marina. Catch >up with racing folks you might not have >seen over the winter months and meet >folks new to GSL racing this season. >Especially welcome the new "D" Fleeters >- What a great idea for an addition to >the racing community! What are the start a end times for Saturday's orientation? I need to be up at the U at 11:00. Thanks; Sandy Sanford Meek University of Utah Department of Mechanical Engineering 50 S Central Campus Dr, Rm 2110 Salt Lake City, UT 84112-9208 (801)581-8562 meek@mech.utah.edu * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: sail.ray@att.net Subject: Re: (utah-sailing) Any Catalina 27 trailers for sail in the area Date: 27 Mar 2003 23:32:31 +0000 My "pricey" trailer is in SLC. I am in LA. Give me his number and I can do a deal with him to go and get it himself. ray tostado 213/300-3446 > All, > > One of my sailing buddies in California is looking for a usable trailer > for his 1984 Catalina 27. I saw the custom trailer on the GSLYC bulletin > board, but it is a bit pricy. Any others out there? > > Matt > > * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: > * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing > * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with > * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). > * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Diana Goodell" Subject: Re: (utah-sailing) Any Catalina 27 trailers for sail in the Date: 28 Mar 2003 07:35:46 -0700 Hey Ray - I never heard back from you - would a skinny Olson fit your = trailer? Thanks, Diana, Pack A Lunch=20 >>> sail.ray@att.net 03/27/03 04:32PM >>> My "pricey" trailer is in SLC. I am in LA. Give me his number and I can do = a=20 deal with him to go and get it himself. ray tostado 213/300-3446 > All, >=20 > One of my sailing buddies in California is looking for a usable trailer > for his 1984 Catalina 27. I saw the custom trailer on the GSLYC bulletin > board, but it is a bit pricy. Any others out there? >=20 > Matt >=20 > * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: > * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing=20 > * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with > * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). >=20 * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing=20 * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brad J Silver" Subject: (utah-sailing) Race Orientation March 29th & 30th Date: 28 Mar 2003 07:47:26 -0700 The Great Salt Lake Yacht Club's official Race Orientation meeting is= this weekend, at the GSLYC The meeting will start at 9:00 till 11:00 We will be taking care of all the necessary paperwork and official bu= siness Skippers' meeting is at 11:00 O'clock Practice races are scheduled from 12:00 till 4:00. If you should have any questions, please e-mail me at GSLsailor@aol= .com Hope to see you all this weekend GSLYC Race Chair Brad Silver= * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: heidisolstad@netscape.net (Heidi ) Subject: RE: (utah-sailing) Race Orientation March 29th & 30th Date: 28 Mar 2003 09:53:29 -0500 Does this schedule apply to both days? What would the difference be and is it a requirement to attend if one is going to race this season? Thank you. Heidi "Brad J Silver" wrote: > >  The Great Salt Lake Yacht Club's official Race Orientation meeting is this >                             weekend, at the GSLYC >                   The meeting will start at 9:00 till 11:00 >  We will be taking care of all the necessary paperwork and official business >                     Skippers' meeting is at 11:00 O'clock >              Practice races are scheduled from 12:00 till 4:00. >    If you should have any questions, please e-mail me at GSLsailor@aol.com >                       Hope to see you all this weekend >                               GSLYC Race Chair >                                  Brad Silver > > > >* Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: >* http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing >* To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with >* the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). > > -- "Remember no one can make you feel inferior without your consent." —Eleanor Roosevelt __________________________________________________________________ Try AOL and get 1045 hours FREE for 45 days! http://free.aol.com/tryaolfree/index.adp?375380 Get AOL Instant Messenger 5.1 for FREE! Download Now! http://aim.aol.com/aimnew/Aim/register.adp?promos=380455 * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brad J Silver" Subject: RE: (utah-sailing) Race Orientation March 29th & 30th Date: 28 Mar 2003 09:20:08 -0700 Hello Heidi, If you are going to race this season, but not this weekend, I would sug= gest that you make arrangements to come out to the GSLYC either Saturday or = Sunday between 9:00 and 11:00, in order to take care of all your paperwork for= the 2003 race season. We will not have time to be processing paperwork the day of a race. Th= erefore, if you cannot make it this weekend you will need to make special arrang= ements, with the Race Committee to take care of this paperwork. Brad AM EST Please respond to utah-sailing@lists.xmission.com Sent by: owner-utah-sailing@lists.xmission.com cc: Does this schedule apply to both days? What would the difference be and is it a requirement to attend if one i= s going to race this season? Thank you. Heidi "Brad J Silver" wrote: > > =A0The Great Salt Lake Yacht Club's official Race Orientation meeting= is this > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 weekend, at t= he GSLYC > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 The meeting will start at 9:00 ti= ll 11:00 > =A0We will be taking care of all the necessary paperwork and official= business > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Skippers' meeting is at 11:00= O'clock > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Practice races are scheduled from 12:00 ti= ll 4:00. > =A0 =A0If you should have any questions, please e-mail me at GSLsailo= r@aol.com > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Hope to see you all this = weekend > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 GSLYC Rac= e Chair > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Br= ad Silver > > > >* Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: >* http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing >* To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with >* the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). > > -- "Remember no one can make you feel inferior without your consent." ?Eleanor Roosevelt __________________________________________________________________ Try AOL and get 1045 hours FREE for 45 days! http://free.aol.com/tryaolfree/index.adp?375380 Get AOL Instant Messenger 5.1 for FREE! Download Now! http://aim.aol.com/aimnew/Aim/register.adp?promos=3D380455 * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). = * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bryant Pratt" Subject: Re: (utah-sailing) Race Orientation March 29th & 30th Date: 28 Mar 2003 11:22:28 -0700 Heidi, et al, The race orientation meetings are held on Saturday and Sunday to accommodate those who can't make it to one or the other. The times are the same for both days. The meetings are to bring skippers up to date on the plans for the season, with emphasis on any changes from previous years. It's also a good time to get the required paperwork done and to get membership dues and racing fees paid. The required paperwork includes signing the liability release form, membership renewal form, PHRF form (if new), and signing up for the requisite turn(s) as RC boat during the season. These things can be done at other times, but getting them done now, rather than at a race event, can save you and the race committee time and stress. Bryant Pratt ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 7:53 AM > Does this schedule apply to both days? > > What would the difference be and is it a requirement to attend if one is going to race this season? > > Thank you. > > Heidi > > > > "Brad J Silver" wrote: > > > > > The Great Salt Lake Yacht Club's official Race Orientation meeting is this > > weekend, at the GSLYC > > The meeting will start at 9:00 till 11:00 > > We will be taking care of all the necessary paperwork and official business > > Skippers' meeting is at 11:00 O'clock > > Practice races are scheduled from 12:00 till 4:00. > > If you should have any questions, please e-mail me at GSLsailor@aol.com > > Hope to see you all this weekend > > GSLYC Race Chair > > Brad Silver * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SAIL.RAY@att.net Subject: Re: (utah-sailing) Any Catalina 27 trailers for sail in the area Date: 29 Mar 2003 04:14:02 +0000 NEVER GOT YOUR E-MAIL. Just sold it to Daave Shear. RT > Hey Ray - I never heard back from you - would a skinny Olson fit your trailer? > Thanks, Diana, Pack A Lunch > > >>> sail.ray@att.net 03/27/03 04:32PM >>> > My "pricey" trailer is in SLC. I am in LA. Give me his number and I can do a > deal with him to go and get it himself. > > ray tostado > > > 213/300-3446 > > All, > > > > One of my sailing buddies in California is looking for a usable trailer > > for his 1984 Catalina 27. I saw the custom trailer on the GSLYC bulletin > > board, but it is a bit pricy. Any others out there? > > > > Matt > > > > * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: > > * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing > > * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with > > * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). > > > > * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: > * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing > * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with > * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). > > > > * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: > * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing > * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with > * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). > * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GSLSailor@aol.com Subject: Re: (utah-sailing) Any Catalina 27 trailers for sail in the area Date: 28 Mar 2003 23:20:56 EST --part1_14b.1d995fdb.2bb67928_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Who is Daave? --part1_14b.1d995fdb.2bb67928_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Who is Daave? --part1_14b.1d995fdb.2bb67928_boundary-- * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dave Shearer" Subject: (utah-sailing) Trailers at the marina Date: 29 Mar 2003 16:28:03 -0700 Hey all If you have a trailer parked at the marina (other than the ones in the fenced dry storage) PLEASE GO OUT AND CHECK YOUR TRAILERS. There are notices on each one. The state has decided to allow unsecured storage at the marina but each trailer must be tagged and you must have a signed contract. The fee is $25.00 per month. Please check your trailers. Instructions are on the notices posted to each trailer. Check them quick. The grace period is 60 days. My understanding is starting June 1st any trailer or boat in the unsecured area that does not have a contract will be considered abandoned and will be towed. Dave Shearer * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JPVCooper@aol.com Subject: Re: (utah-sailing) I want to get a small sailboat Date: 29 Mar 2003 18:40:40 EST Hi, I live in Springville, and have 5.7 G-cat that needs some repairs.. do you have any good sources for local repiars.. need to replicate a rudder assembly..?? Also I'm looking for a samller sailboat that I might be able to cartop. I like Lasers, Sunfish, Zumas.. but any leads will be appreciated. Also I have a daughter who lilkes to sail. I want to teach her, and my G-Cat is a bit daunting... she is 13. Any of you college students willing to big-brother, big sister my girl in sailing? Thanks Paul Cooper 319-2539 * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: heidisolstad@netscape.net (Heidi ) Subject: (utah-sailing) Signing Up for Racing Date: 30 Mar 2003 22:30:22 -0500 "Bryant Pratt" wrote: >et al, >     The race orientation meetings are held on Saturday and Sunday to >accommodate those who can't make it to one or the other.   >The meetings are to bring skippers up to date on the >plans for the season, with emphasis on any changes from previous years. >It's also a good time to get the required paperwork done and to get >membership dues and racing fees paid.  The required paperwork includes >signing the liability release form, membership renewal form, PHRF form (if >new), and signing up for the requisite turn(s) as RC boat during the season. >These things can be done at other times, but getting them done now, rather >than at a race event, can save you and the race committee time and stress. > >Bryant Pratt Dear Bryant and Race Committee folks, Can any of this "paperwork" be done online, i.e. download forms and then mail them in with money/fees and signatures? It would be a nice accomodation for those of us who want to race, but are unable to attend the race orientation (which has now ended). Having available forms online, may save the committee "stress" in having to meet newcomers, or latecomers to "race orientation" and getting signatures, etc. Just an idea. A possibility? Thank you. Heidi -- "Remember no one can make you feel inferior without your consent." —Eleanor Roosevelt __________________________________________________________________ Try AOL and get 1045 hours FREE for 45 days! http://free.aol.com/tryaolfree/index.adp?375380 Get AOL Instant Messenger 5.1 for FREE! Download Now! http://aim.aol.com/aimnew/Aim/register.adp?promos=380455 * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GSLSailor@aol.com Subject: (utah-sailing) GSLYC NOTICE OF CHANGE Date: 31 Mar 2003 00:03:34 EST --part1_157.1db3d0f1.2bb92626_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Notice to all GSLYC Racers!!! Posted on the bulletin board at the GSLYC is a change to the 2003 Sailing instructions. Under: ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT REQUIRED FOR THE REYNOLDS'S CUP RACE. It reads: 3. One harness and lanyard for each crewmember. It should read and has been changed, as of March 30, 2003, to read: 3. One harness and lanyard for each ten (10) feet of LOA, minimum of two harnesses. Sorry about this error. I honestly do not know how this got changed. Please see one of the Race Committee Members for a revised insert to your race packet. Brad --part1_157.1db3d0f1.2bb92626_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Notice to all GSLYC Racers!!!

Posted on the bulletin board at the GSLYC is a change to the 2003 Sailing in= structions. 

Under:
ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT REQUIRED FOR THE REYNOLDS'S CUP RACE.

It reads:
3. One harness and lanyard for each crewmember.

It should read and has been changed, as of March 30, 2003, to read:
3.    One harness and lanyard for each ten (10) feet of LOA,=20= minimum of two harnesses.

Sorry about this error. I honestly do not know how this got changed.  P= lease see one of the Race Committee Members for a revised insert to your rac= e packet.

Brad 
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------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C2F74C.3BA8F960-- * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GSLSailor@aol.com Subject: (utah-sailing) ATTENTION ALL GSLYC RACERS Date: 31 Mar 2003 13:46:01 -0500 The Great Salt Lake Yacht Club is hosting the Members' Cup on April 5th, 2003. The Skippers meeting is at 9:00 am at the GSLYC and the start flag goes up at 10:30 sharp. Bob Bushek/Tardis is the Committee boat. We will start at C mark, race to 6 mark and finish at C mark. This is a 14 NM course. Course charts will be available at the skippers meeting. Coordinates: (C) N 40° 45.296' W 112° 13.791' (6) N 40° 51.544' W 112° 17.905' Awards for the Members' Cup are: Shalom Cup: Perpetual trophy awarded to 1st place PHRF corrected time of all A fleet yachts racing the Members' Cup offshore event. Thomas-King Cup: Perpetual trophy awarded to 1st place PHRF corrected time Of all B fleet yachts racing the Members' Cup offshore event. Baty Cup: A perpetual trophy established in 1997 and awarded to 1st place PHRF corrected time of all C fleet yachts racing the Members' Cup offshore event. For those of you that have not yet paid your fees and filled out the necessary paperwork, I will be taking care of this from 8:30 till 9:00. Therefore, if you could come into the GSLYC office between 8:30 and 9:00, I would appreciate it. Brad Silver GSLYC Race Chair * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: heidisolstad@netscape.net (Heidi ) Subject: (utah-sailing) Fees for Racing Date: 31 Mar 2003 20:06:56 -0500 Hello. What are the costs/fees for racing this year? Wednesday nighters/Off-shore/Regattas, etc? Highwires PHRF is 108. I could not find the fee schedule for racing on the gsylc web site. I would appreciate knowing. Thank you. Heidi -- "Remember no one can make you feel inferior without your consent." —Eleanor Roosevelt __________________________________________________________________ Try AOL and get 1045 hours FREE for 45 days! http://free.aol.com/tryaolfree/index.adp?375380 Get AOL Instant Messenger 5.1 for FREE! Download Now! http://aim.aol.com/aimnew/Aim/register.adp?promos=380455 * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes).