From: "Bryant Pratt" Subject: (utah-sailing) GSLYC Sail Trim Seminar Date: 01 Mar 2004 13:47:13 -0700 Ahoy Ye Salts, This week's Great Salt Lake Yacht Club sailing seminar will be on Sail Trim and will be presented by Harry Pattison of Elliot/Pattison sails. Harry will discuss how to get the most from your boat's main engine (it's sails) with effective trim using the sail controls available on your boat. Harry is brought to us for this special presentation by Sidsports, Utah's Catalina, Capri, Escape and Hobie dealer and boatyard. The seminar will be held in Meeting Rooms B & C on the Lower Level of the City Library at 210 E 400 S in S.L.C. from 7:00 to 8:30 PM on Wednesday, March 3. Use the stairway south of the library's main entrance inside the mall. Door prizes will be awarded. Seminars will continue on consecutive Wednesday nights, through March 17. For a complete schedule, see the Great Salt Lake Yacht Club's Web site at www.gslyc.org. Bryant Pratt * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bryant Pratt" Subject: (utah-sailing) GSLYC Sailing REsources Seminar Date: 08 Mar 2004 17:30:21 -0700 Fellow Sailors, This week's Great Salt Lake Yacht Club FREE Sailing Seminar will be on Sailing Resources. Speakers will be representatives businesses and organizations that support and supply our sailing community. The seminar will be held in Meeting Rooms B & C on the Lower Level of the City Library at 210 E 400 S in S.L.C. from 7:00 to 8:30 PM on Wednesday, March 10. Use the stairway south of the library's main entrance inside the mall. Door prizes will be awarded. Next week, March 17, will be this year's final seminar and will be on Racing at the Great Salt Lake. To see what you've been missing, see the complete schedule on the Great Salt Lake Yacht Club's Web site at www.gslyc.org. Bryant Pratt * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GSLSailor@aol.com Subject: (utah-sailing) Vandalism Date: 08 Mar 2004 21:04:08 EST Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en Hello GSL Sailors, I feel that I need to make everyone aware of malicious vandalism that is=20 happening out at the GSL Marina. There is someone that is upset with the sa= ilors=20 for one reason or another and is vandalizing our boats. One boat has had=20 holes drilled right at the waterline. When the boat is sitting in it=E2=80= =99s slip it=20 does not take on water, but as soon as you go sailing and your boat heels ov= er,=20 the holes go underwater and the boat starts sinking. If this is not noticed= in=20 time to start the bailing process, the boat will capsize and sink. This=20 could be fatal for all on board at this time of the year. Another boat has=20= had=20 its running rigging slashed. Furlers have been cut as well. You could be s= ound=20 asleep at night, thinking that your boat is okay in its slip, but the Tooele= =20 Twisters could be destroying your sail. And all of this because someone=20 decided to slash your furler line. =20 =20 If you have seen anything suspicious lately, or have any damage on your boat= ,=20 please contact the authorities. =20 =20 Thanks,=20 =20 Brad =20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en

Hello GSL Sailors,
I feel that I need to make everyone aware of malicious vandalism that is ha= ppening out at the GSL Marina.  There is someone that is upset with the= sailors for one reason or another and is vandalizing our boats.  One boat has had holes drilled right at= the waterline. When the boat is sitting in it=E2=80=99s slip it does not ta= ke on water, but as soon as you go sailing and your boat heels over, the hol= es go underwater and the boat starts sinking.  If this is not noticed in time to start the bailing process= , the boat will capsize and sink.  This could be fatal for all on board at this time of the year.  Another boat has had its running rigg= ing slashed.  Furlers have bee= n cut as well.  You could be s= ound asleep at night, thinking that your boat is okay in its slip, but the T= ooele Twisters could be destroying your sail.  And all of this because someone decided to slash your furle= r line.    

 

If you have seen anything= suspicious lately, or have any damage on your boat, please contact the auth= orities. 

 

Thanks,

 

Brad

 

* Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Teresa Sowles Subject: RE: (utah-sailing) Vandalism Date: 09 Mar 2004 08:50:39 -0700 This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C405EE.4A299B14 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Brad, It must be someone that knows Sailboats or is a Sailor to know were to inflict such damage, has anyone been removed from the Marina for cause? Maybe we should turn that camera towards the Marina? Is directed at anyone? I'll bring it up at the meeting tonight to see if anyone has ideas of who it might be or how to better protect our boats and lives! Teresa Sowles -----Original Message----- Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 7:04 PM gslyc@mailman.xmission.com Hello GSL Sailors, I feel that I need to make everyone aware of malicious vandalism that is happening out at the GSL Marina. There is someone that is upset with the sailors for one reason or another and is vandalizing our boats. One boat has had holes drilled right at the waterline. When the boat is sitting in it's slip it does not take on water, but as soon as you go sailing and your boat heels over, the holes go underwater and the boat starts sinking. If this is not noticed in time to start the bailing process, the boat will capsize and sink. This could be fatal for all on board at this time of the year. Another boat has had its running rigging slashed. Furlers have been cut as well. You could be sound asleep at night, thinking that your boat is okay in its slip, but the Tooele Twisters could be destroying your sail. And all of this because someone decided to slash your furler line. If you have seen anything suspicious lately, or have any damage on your boat, please contact the authorities. Thanks, Brad ------_=_NextPart_001_01C405EE.4A299B14 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Message
Brad,
 
It must be someone that knows Sailboats or is a Sailor to know were to inflict such damage, has anyone been removed from the Marina for cause?  Maybe we should turn that camera towards the Marina?  Is directed at anyone?   I'll bring it up at the meeting tonight to see if anyone has ideas of who it might be or how to better protect our boats and lives!
 
Teresa Sowles
 
 
 
 
 
 -----Original Message-----
From: GSLSailor@aol.com [mailto:GSLSailor@aol.com]
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 7:04 PM
To: utah-sailing@lists.xmission.com; gslyc-board@mailman.xmission.com; gslyc@mailman.xmission.com
Subject: (utah-sailing) Vandalism

Hello GSL Sailors,

I feel that I need to make everyone aware of malicious vandalism that is happening out at the GSL Marina.  There is someone that is upset with the sailors for one reason or another and is vandalizing our boats.  One boat has had holes drilled right at the waterline. When the boat is sitting in it's slip it does not take on water, but as soon as you go sailing and your boat heels over, the holes go underwater and the boat starts sinking.  If this is not noticed in time to start the bailing process, the boat will capsize and sink.  This could be fatal for all on board at this time of the year.  Another boat has had its running rigging slashed.  Furlers have been cut as well.  You could be sound asleep at night, thinking that your boat is okay in its slip, but the Tooele Twisters could be destroying your sail.  And all of this because someone decided to slash your furler line.    

 

If you have seen anything suspicious lately, or have any damage on your boat, please contact the authorities. 

 

Thanks,

 

Brad

 

------_=_NextPart_001_01C405EE.4A299B14-- * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dave Shearer" Subject: (utah-sailing) Keys to GSL Marina Date: 09 Mar 2004 09:47:42 -0700 Leroy. Lost your email address so I hope you get this message from this site. The new GSL marina gate keys DO NOT fit the club house. This is a separate key. The marina gates, restrooms and clubhouse (multi- purpose room) were re-keyed last week. I do have a limited supply of clubhouse keys here at Sidsports. There is a stack of these keys sitting at the ranger station for you to hand out to appropriate persons. As for getting into the clubhouse tonight for the board meeting; Bryant has one of the new keys. Or someone can come by Sidsports and pick a key up. I won't be at the meeting until 7:30pm Dave * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: heidisolstad@netscape.net (Heidi ) Subject: RE: (utah-sailing) Vandalism Date: 09 Mar 2004 12:24:51 -0500 Dear folks, It is sad this is happening. I am curious as to which docks appear to be affected, and what law enforcement person is involved, so we have a "go-to-person" in case of continued problems. Consolidate the reporting system seems efficient and decreases the opportunity for mis-information. I highly caution pointing fingers at anyone. I imagine if I had direct information that would lead to the suspect(s), the law enforcement go-to-person ought to be notified. Assumptions of guilt can get a person in sadder places. Warm regards and thank you for notifying boat owners Brad. Heidi Teresa Sowles wrote: >Brad, > >It must be someone that knows Sailboats or is a Sailor to know were to >inflict such damage, has anyone been removed from the Marina for cause? >Maybe we should turn that camera towards the Marina? Is directed at anyone? >I'll bring it up at the meeting tonight to see if anyone has ideas of who it >might be or how to better protect our boats and lives! > >Teresa Sowles > > > > > > -----Original Message----- >From: GSLSailor@aol.com [mailto:GSLSailor@aol.com] >Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 7:04 PM >To: utah-sailing@lists.xmission.com; gslyc-board@mailman.xmission.com; >gslyc@mailman.xmission.com >Subject: (utah-sailing) Vandalism > > > >Hello GSL Sailors, > >I feel that I need to make everyone aware of malicious vandalism that is >happening out at the GSL Marina. There is someone that is upset with the >sailors for one reason or another and is vandalizing our boats. One boat >has had holes drilled right at the waterline. When the boat is sitting in >it's slip it does not take on water, but as soon as you go sailing and your >boat heels over, the holes go underwater and the boat starts sinking. If >this is not noticed in time to start the bailing process, the boat will >capsize and sink. This could be fatal for all on board at this time of the >year. Another boat has had its running rigging slashed. Furlers have been >cut as well. You could be sound asleep at night, thinking that your boat is >okay in its slip, but the Tooele Twisters could be destroying your sail. >And all of this because someone decided to slash your furler line. > > > >If you have seen anything suspicious lately, or have any damage on your >boat, please contact the authorities. > > > >Thanks, > > > >Brad > > > > -- "Now, bring on the horizon . . ." __________________________________________________________________ Introducing the New Netscape Internet Service. Only $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Robert Harper Subject: (utah-sailing) Help wanted Date: 14 Mar 2004 06:00:51 -0700 I hang my head in shame. :( I have put it off for far too long and I am now asking for volunteers for the following GSLYC Race Committee positions. PHRF Officer Protest Officer Bryant Pratt has decided to take a break this year after many years of faithful service. A special thanks must be made for all he does for the club and all sailors on our inland sea. Thank you sir. Fleet Captains A Fleet B Fleet C Fleet D Fleet It is my understanding that Scott Hunter has agreed to be equipment officer. If this is not true, please let me know. If you are planning on renewing your membership or are going to join the GSLYC and would like to fill one of these positions, please contact me by e-mail or my cell phone (801.455.1975). This is a very busy year and let us continue to pray for more water. The lake is rising but we could still use a lot more so that we may see the return of the deep water A fleet boats. One last note. If you know of skippers needing crew, crew needing a boat, or people that would like to race but are afraid of taking that first step, please contact me and I'll see what I can do to match people up. We would like to see a lot of new faces this year. -- Don't be good... HAVE LOTS OF FUN! Robert Harper * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Rock Subject: Re: (utah-sailing) Help wanted Date: 13 Mar 2004 09:20:11 -0700 on 3/14/04 6:00 AM, Robert Harper at rharper@xmission.com wrote: > I hang my head in shame. :( > > I have put it off for far too long and I am now asking for volunteers for the > following GSLYC Race Committee positions. > > PHRF Officer > Protest Officer > Bryant Pratt has decided to take a break this year after many years of > faithful > service. A special thanks must be made for all he does for the club and all > sailors on our inland sea. Thank you sir. > > Fleet Captains > A Fleet > B Fleet > C Fleet > D Fleet > > It is my understanding that Scott Hunter has agreed to be equipment officer. > If > this is not true, please let me know. > > If you are planning on renewing your membership or are going to join the GSLYC > and would like to fill one of these positions, please contact me by e-mail or > my > cell phone (801.455.1975). > > This is a very busy year and let us continue to pray for more water. The lake > is > rising but we could still use a lot more so that we may see the return of the > deep water A fleet boats. > > One last note. If you know of skippers needing crew, crew needing a boat, or > people that would like to race but are afraid of taking that first step, > please > contact me and I'll see what I can do to match people up. We would like to see > a > lot of new faces this year. I would be interested in serving as a crew member for a smaller boat (say, 20 to 30 feet). I don't think I know enough yet to race my own boat, but if I can learn a lot this season then maybe I could compete next season. John Rock * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Robert Harper Subject: Re: (utah-sailing) Help wanted Date: 14 Mar 2004 21:01:26 -0700 What boat do you have? Some boats will take on "rail meat" especially if it is blowing hard. Most of the boats larger than 30' have had to pull out because of the low water. If I run into some experienced crew or were to take a day off from racing mine, would you like to give your boat a try? John Rock wrote: > on 3/14/04 6:00 AM, Robert Harper at rharper@xmission.com wrote: > > >>I hang my head in shame. :( >> >>I have put it off for far too long and I am now asking for volunteers for the >>following GSLYC Race Committee positions. >> >>PHRF Officer >>Protest Officer >>Bryant Pratt has decided to take a break this year after many years of >>faithful >>service. A special thanks must be made for all he does for the club and all >>sailors on our inland sea. Thank you sir. >> >>Fleet Captains >>A Fleet >>B Fleet >>C Fleet >>D Fleet >> >>It is my understanding that Scott Hunter has agreed to be equipment officer. >>If >>this is not true, please let me know. >> >>If you are planning on renewing your membership or are going to join the GSLYC >>and would like to fill one of these positions, please contact me by e-mail or >>my >>cell phone (801.455.1975). >> >>This is a very busy year and let us continue to pray for more water. The lake >>is >>rising but we could still use a lot more so that we may see the return of the >>deep water A fleet boats. >> >>One last note. If you know of skippers needing crew, crew needing a boat, or >>people that would like to race but are afraid of taking that first step, >>please >>contact me and I'll see what I can do to match people up. We would like to see >>a >>lot of new faces this year. > > > > I would be interested in serving as a crew member for a smaller boat (say, > 20 to 30 feet). I don't think I know enough yet to race my own boat, but if > I can learn a lot this season then maybe I could compete next season. > > John Rock > > > * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: > * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing > * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with > * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). > > -- Don't be good... HAVE LOTS OF FUN! Robert Harper * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: skagroovy@juno.com Subject: Re: (utah-sailing) Help wanted Date: 14 Mar 2004 06:17:14 GMT rob and all others... this year i find my self with out a boat ... i can crew for anyone and will be coming up on wed's and some sat's i can do pretty much everything and willing to do anything i will plan on coming up and help out how ever possible thanks Jared Jaynes ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Rock Subject: Re: (utah-sailing) Help wanted Date: 14 Mar 2004 09:12:55 -0700 > John Rock wrote: > >> I would be interested in serving as a crew member for a smaller boat (say, >> 20 to 30 feet). I don't think I know enough yet to race my own boat, but if >> I can learn a lot this season then maybe I could compete next season. >> >> John Rock on 3/14/04 9:01 PM, Robert Harper at rharper@xmission.com wrote: > What boat do you have? Some boats will take on "rail meat" especially if it is > blowing hard. Most of the boats larger than 30' have had to pull out because > of > the low water. If I run into some experienced crew or were to take a day off > from racing mine, would you like to give your boat a try? Robert My boat is not really designed primarily for racing. It's just a 14-foot sloop with a displacement hull and a daggerboard. It's called a Sur Nomad 14 and is basically a clone of the Catalina 14.2. However, I am looking at finding and buying a Catalina 18 (20 feet) in April or May of this year. I hope to gain racing experience for this "new" 20-footer I hope to acquire. I have sailed off and on since the 1970's but have never been interested in racing until now. I've not heard the term "rail meat" before. What does it mean? John * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Robert Harper Subject: Re: (utah-sailing) Help wanted Date: 15 Mar 2004 18:12:29 -0700 John Rock wrote: > on 3/14/04 6:00 AM, Robert Harper at rharper@xmission.com wrote: > > >>I hang my head in shame. :( >> >>I have put it off for far too long and I am now asking for volunteers for the >>following GSLYC Race Committee positions. >> >>PHRF Officer >>Protest Officer >>Bryant Pratt has decided to take a break this year after many years of >>faithful >>service. A special thanks must be made for all he does for the club and all >>sailors on our inland sea. Thank you sir. >> >>Fleet Captains >>A Fleet >>B Fleet >>C Fleet >>D Fleet >> >>It is my understanding that Scott Hunter has agreed to be equipment officer. >>If >>this is not true, please let me know. >> >>If you are planning on renewing your membership or are going to join the GSLYC >>and would like to fill one of these positions, please contact me by e-mail or >>my >>cell phone (801.455.1975). >> >>This is a very busy year and let us continue to pray for more water. The lake >>is >>rising but we could still use a lot more so that we may see the return of the >>deep water A fleet boats. >> >>One last note. If you know of skippers needing crew, crew needing a boat, or >>people that would like to race but are afraid of taking that first step, >>please >>contact me and I'll see what I can do to match people up. We would like to see >>a >>lot of new faces this year. > > > > I would be interested in serving as a crew member for a smaller boat (say, > 20 to 30 feet). I don't think I know enough yet to race my own boat, but if > I can learn a lot this season then maybe I could compete next season. > > John Rock > > > * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: > * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing > * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with > * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). > > "Rail Meat" is a term we use for extra people to help keep the boat flat when it blows hard. It is not the most involved spot to take but it is a good place to get introduced and start. If you find you have more to offer than you thought, then you can find ways to work into better spots. It is a bad sign for most skippers if someone just sits and gabs the whole time and does not contribute much more than ballast. You should pay attention to sail trim. If you don't know it, learn it. If you do, help out. Learn to anticipate what the skipper needs to do or wants you to do and pay attention to what is going on. -- Don't be good... HAVE LOTS OF FUN! Robert Harper * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Wes Peters Subject: Re: (utah-sailing) Help wanted Date: 14 Mar 2004 21:14:07 -0800 On Sun, 14 Mar 2004 09:12:55 -0700 John Rock alleged: > > My boat is not really designed primarily for racing. It's just a 14-foot > sloop with a displacement hull and a daggerboard. It's called a Sur Nomad > 14 and is basically a clone of the Catalina 14.2. > > However, I am looking at finding and buying a Catalina 18 (20 feet) in > April or May of this year. I hope to gain racing experience for this "new" > 20-footer I hope to acquire. I have sailed off and on since the 1970's but > have never been interested in racing until now. I have a lovely J/22 #49 sitting in a storage shed in north SLC. I had plans to bring her to San Diego where I live know this summer, but given how shallow the lake is getting there, I could be talked into selling her to a good GSL sailor who will take care of her and give her the racing lifestyle she deserves. Dave Shearer is quite familiar with her, or feel free to email me for information. I haven't officially listed her anywhere, this just seemed a good opportunity to offer her to a group of sailors I miss and respect. > I've not heard the term "rail meat" before. What does it mean? Self-propelled ballast. The last season I seriously raced dJinni, my J/22, our crew weighed more than half what the boat did. J/22s in fighting trim run about 1850 lbs; our 4-man crew averaged right at 250 lbs each. We could get 2 knots just sculling the keel with crew sitting at the chainplates rocking the boat. That's some rail meat. ;^) -- Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket? Wes Peters wes@softweyr.com * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Rock Subject: Re: (utah-sailing) Help wanted Date: 15 Mar 2004 09:04:20 -0700 on 3/14/04 10:14 PM, Wes Peters at wes@softweyr.com wrote: > On Sun, 14 Mar 2004 09:12:55 -0700 John Rock > alleged: > >> >> My boat is not really designed primarily for racing. It's just a 14-foot >> sloop with a displacement hull and a daggerboard. It's called a Sur Nomad >> 14 and is basically a clone of the Catalina 14.2. >> > > I have a lovely J/22 #49 sitting in a storage shed in north SLC. I had > plans to bring her to San Diego where I live know this summer, but given > how shallow the lake is getting there, I could be talked into selling > her to a good GSL sailor who will take care of her and give her the > racing lifestyle she deserves. Thanks for your kind offer, but the J/22 is not the craft I crave, although I think it would be cool to learn how to race in one John * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bryant Pratt" Subject: (utah-sailing) GSLYC Racing Seminar Date: 15 Mar 2004 11:58:19 -0700 Mates, Are you ready to go racing? Would you like to go racing? Come to the Great Salt Lake Yacht Club's FREE Sailing Seminar this Wednesday night and learn about sailboat racing at the Great Salt Lake. The what, where, when, why, how and how much($) of racing will be presented by Robert Harper, the chairman of the GSLYC sailboat racing program for 2004. This, the 10th and last session of this year's sailing seminar series, will be held in the meeting room in the southwest corner of the 4th. floor in the City Library at 210 East 400 South in S.L.C. from 7:00 to 8:30 PM on Wednesday, March 17 (Happy St. Patty's Day -- sorry, no green beer). To find out more about the GSLYC racing and other programs, visit the club's Web site at www.gslyc.org. Bryant Pratt * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Robert Harper Subject: (utah-sailing) Race orientation Date: 20 Mar 2004 05:44:45 -0700 Sorry for the late notice. This week got away from me. Tomorrow and Sunday is the race orientation. We will be meeting at the multipurpose room at 9:00 AM to go over plans for this year and collect your racing fees and pass out some paper. Fees will be the same as last year. For those of you on the list who are not usually Great Salt Lake sailors. I would like to extend an invitation for those of you who may have dinghies, catamarans, and other small craft to join us on the lake. We will be happy to accommodate you as best we can provided you pay the race fees. You need not be a club member to race but the fees are somewhat higher for non members. I have raced Lasers and 505's on the lake and it is not as bad as you may think. Yes things do get salty but at least there aren't any PWC's to contend with. See you on the lake! -- Don't be good... HAVE LOTS OF FUN! Robert Harper * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Robert Harper Subject: (utah-sailing) Oops Date: 20 Mar 2004 05:48:26 -0700 I forgot to mention that the lovely Teresa Sowles will be providing breakfast on Saturday and I'll bring lighter fare for Sunday. The lovely Cory Weir will be there as well to collect your fees. I'd like to thank them in advance for all the help they will be giving as well as thank them for the service they provide for the club. -- Don't be good... HAVE LOTS OF FUN! Robert Harper * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GSLSailor@aol.com Subject: (utah-sailing) Vandalism at the Great Salt Lake Marina Date: 19 Mar 2004 15:33:19 -0500 VG8gQWxsIEdyZWF0IFNhbHQgTGFrZSBNYXJpbmEgdXNlcnMsCgpNYXJjaCAxOCwgMjAwNCB0 aGUgdmFuZGFscyBoaXQgYWdhaW4uICBUaGlzIHRpbWUgdGhleSBjdXQgdGhlIGdhcyBsaW5l IG9uIEdBTEFUSUEuICBUaGV5IG1hZGUgdHdvIHZlcnkgc21hbGwgY3V0cyBpbiB0aGUgZ2Fz IGxpbmUsIHdoaWNoIG1ha2VzIGl0IG9idmlvdXMgdGhhdCB0aGUgaW50ZW50IHdhcyB0byBo YXZlIHRoZSBib2F0IG91dCBvZiB0aGUgTWFyaW5hLCBiZWNhdXNlIHdpdGggdGhpcyB0eXBl IG9mIGN1dCBpZGxpbmcgYW5kIGdvaW5nIHNsb3cgd291bGRu4oCZdCBiZSBhIHByb2JsZW0s IGJ1dCBBcyBzb29uIGFzIHRoZSBtb3RvciB3YXMgcG93ZXJlZCB1cCB0aGUgZ2FzIGxpbmUg d291bGQgc3VjayBhaXIgYW5kIHRoZSBtb3RvciB3b3VsZCBxdWl0LiAgVGhlIHBsYW4gd29y a2VkIHZlcnkgd2VsbCwgYmVjYXVzZSBHQUxBVElBIGxvc3QgcG93ZXIgYW5kIGFsbW9zdCBl bmRlZCB1cCBvbiB0aGUgYnJlYWt3YXRlci4gQXMgSSBtZW50aW9uZWQgbGFzdCB3ZWVrIGhv bGVzIHdlcmUgZHJpbGxlZCBpbiBSaXNreSBCdXNpbmVzcy4gIFRoZXNlIGFyZSBjcmltZXMg dGhhdCBtdXN0IG5vdCBnbyB1bnB1bmlzaGVkLiAgVGhlIGludGVudCBvZiB0aGVzZSBjcmlt ZXMgYXJlIHZlcnkgc2VyaW91cy4gIEFuZCBzb21lb25lIGNvdWxkIGdldCBodXJ0IG9yIGRp ZSB1bmxlc3Mgd2UgZmluZCBhbmQgc3RvcCB0aGlzIHBlcnNvbi4gIFRoZXNlIGNyaW1lcyBh cmUgZXF1YWwgdG8gc29tZW9uZSBjdXR0aW5nIHlvdXIgYnJha2UgbGluZSB3aGlsZSBkcml2 aW5nIGFuZCB3YWl0aW5nIGZvciBzb21lb25lIHRvIGJlIGhvbWUgYmVmb3JlIHN0YXJ0aW5n IGEgaG91c2Ugb24gZmlyZS4gIFRoaXMgY291bGQgYmUgY2xhc3NpZmllZCBhcyBhbiBhdHRl bXB0IG9uIHNvbWVvbmXigJlzIGxpZmUuICBJIGFtIG9mZmVyaW5nIGEgJDEsMDAwLjAwIHJl d2FyZCBmb3IgYW55IGluZm9ybWF0aW9uL2V2aWRlbmNlIHRoYXQgZGlyZWN0bHkgbGVhZHMg dG8gdGhlIGFycmVzdCBhbmQgY29udmljdGlvbiBvZiB3aG9ldmVyIGlzIHJlc3BvbnNpYmxl IGZvciB0aGVzZSBjcmltZXMuCgpUaGFua3MsCkJyYWQgU2lsdmVyCjgwMS05NjQtNTMwMgo= * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Rock Subject: Re: (utah-sailing) Vandalism at the Great Salt Lake Marina Date: 19 Mar 2004 15:40:07 -0700 This is indeed serious. The criminal's modus operandi suggests he knows something about the operation of sailboats and motorboats. He or she could even be a member in good standing of the GSLYC! It's rather a rude awakenin= g to realize this might be the case even though it is rather a negative viewpoint. John Rock on 3/19/04 1:33 PM, GSLSailor@aol.com at GSLSailor@aol.com wrote: > To All Great Salt Lake Marina users, March 18, 2004 the vandals hit again. > This time they cut the gas line on GALATIA. They made two very small cut= s in > the gas line, which makes it obvious that the intent was to have the boat= out > of the Marina, because with this type of cut idling and going slow wouldn= =B9t be > a problem, but As soon as the motor was powered up the gas line would suc= k air > and the motor would quit. The plan worked very well, because GALATIA los= t > power and almost ended up on the breakwater. As I mentioned last week hol= es > were drilled in Risky Business. These are crimes that must not go unpuni= shed. > The intent of these crimes are very serious. And someone could get hurt = or > die unless we find and stop this person. These crimes are equal to someo= ne > cutting your brake line while driving and waiting for someone to be home > before starting a house on fire. This could be classified as an attempt = on > someone=B9s life. I am offering a $1,000.00 reward for any information/evi= dence > that directly leads to the arrest and conviction of whoever is responsibl= e for > these crimes. Thanks, Brad > Silver 801-964-5302 =03?=1E=02???=A8@I=A8=A5?x1?=07?=06?=ABt=00=02=1Bm?=0F?=BDn?=ABt=07(??lj)b?=00=01:=BA{.nu=AF? > =B7?=B1??P-=A0 ????j?+-=B0=0Cf??=A2p=1C=A2`0??=0Bax 'x b???=A1?.nu=AF?=B7?=BA?=02??)?'=A0 =AE=A2?=00 * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: heidisolstad@netscape.net (Heidi ) Subject: Re: (utah-sailing) Vandalism at the Great Salt Lake Marina Date: 19 Mar 2004 21:56:39 -0500 I think ideas are good. Throw them all out in the pot, but again be careful. It could also be a child/teenager (more likely teenager)who is quite misdireted. Brad, I think it would be helpful to have dates and times, which would of course be approximate and speculative, but if dates and times could be brought into the "invesigation", that might help jog someones memory of where and when someone might have been on a particular day, if in fact the assumption is that it might be from someone within our sailing community. And is there a pattern? Is a a particular part of the marina, one dock over another? One type boat over another? What actually are the details. This is the first time you mentioned details and boats. Heidi John Rock wrote: >This is indeed serious. The criminal's modus operandi suggests he knows >something about the operation of sailboats and motorboats. He or she could >even be a member in good standing of the GSLYC! It's rather a rude awakening >to realize this might be the case even though it is rather a negative >viewpoint. > >John Rock > > > >on 3/19/04 1:33 PM, GSLSailor@aol.com at GSLSailor@aol.com wrote: > >> To All Great Salt Lake Marina users, > >March 18, 2004 the vandals hit again. >> This time they cut the gas line on GALATIA.  They made two very small cuts in >> the gas line, which makes it obvious that the intent was to have the boat out >> of the Marina, because with this type of cut idling and going slow wouldnąt be >> a problem, but As soon as the motor was powered up the gas line would suck air >> and the motor would quit.  The plan worked very well, because GALATIA lost >> power and almost ended up on the breakwater. As I mentioned last week holes >> were drilled in Risky Business.  These are crimes that must not go unpunished. >> The intent of these crimes are very serious.  And someone could get hurt or >> die unless we find and stop this person.  These crimes are equal to someone >> cutting your brake line while driving and waiting for someone to be home >> before starting a house on fire.  This could be classified as an attempt on >> someoneąs life.  I am offering a $1,000.00 reward for any information/evidence >> that directly leads to the arrest and conviction of whoever is responsible for >> these crimes. > >Thanks, >Brad >> Silver >801-964-5302 >????¨@I¨Ą?x1???«tm??˝n?«t(??lj)b?:ş{.nuŻ? >> ·?±??P-  ????j?+-° f??˘p˘`0?? ax >'x b???ˇ?.nuŻ?·?ş???)?'  >®˘? > > >* Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: >* http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing >* To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with >* the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). > > -- "Now, bring on the horizon . . ." __________________________________________________________________ Introducing the New Netscape Internet Service. Only $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bonnie Oswald" Subject: RE: (utah-sailing) Vandalism at the Great Salt Lake Marina Date: 19 Mar 2004 20:25:34 -0700 Everyone should chip in or the ranger should arrange to have a video high on a pole to watch the marina for a safety of all the boats. We had our motor stolen 2 years ago, while the workmen building the dock watched. Kids with a car came with bolt cutters and cut the lock off and loaded it in the car and took off. It was a great long shaft motor. There isn't enough protection out there. Bonnie Oswald -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-utah-sailing@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Heidi Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 7:57 PM I think ideas are good. Throw them all out in the pot, but again be careful. It could also be a child/teenager (more likely teenager)who is quite misdireted. Brad, I think it would be helpful to have dates and times, which would of course be approximate and speculative, but if dates and times could be brought into the "invesigation", that might help jog someones memory of where and when someone might have been on a particular day, if in fact the assumption is that it might be from someone within our sailing community. And is there a pattern? Is a a particular part of the marina, one dock over another? One type boat over another? What actually are the details. This is the first time you mentioned details and boats. Heidi John Rock wrote: >This is indeed serious. The criminal's modus operandi suggests he knows >something about the operation of sailboats and motorboats. He or she could >even be a member in good standing of the GSLYC! It's rather a rude awakening >to realize this might be the case even though it is rather a negative >viewpoint. > >John Rock > > > >on 3/19/04 1:33 PM, GSLSailor@aol.com at GSLSailor@aol.com wrote: > >> To All Great Salt Lake Marina users, > >March 18, 2004 the vandals hit again. >> This time they cut the gas line on GALATIA.  They made two very small cuts in >> the gas line, which makes it obvious that the intent was to have the boat out >> of the Marina, because with this type of cut idling and going slow wouldnąt be >> a problem, but As soon as the motor was powered up the gas line would suck air >> and the motor would quit.  The plan worked very well, because GALATIA lost >> power and almost ended up on the breakwater. As I mentioned last week holes >> were drilled in Risky Business.  These are crimes that must not go unpunished. >> The intent of these crimes are very serious.  And someone could get hurt or >> die unless we find and stop this person.  These crimes are equal to someone >> cutting your brake line while driving and waiting for someone to be home >> before starting a house on fire.  This could be classified as an attempt on >> someoneąs life.  I am offering a $1,000.00 reward for any information/evidence >> that directly leads to the arrest and conviction of whoever is responsible for >> these crimes. > >Thanks, >Brad >> Silver >801-964-5302 >????¨@I¨Ą?x1???«tm??˝n?«t(??lj)b?:ş{.nuŻ? >> ·?±??P-  ????j?+-° f??˘p˘`0?? ax >'x b???ˇ?.nuŻ?·?ş???)?'  >®˘? > > >* Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: >* http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing >* To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with >* the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). > > -- "Now, bring on the horizon . . ." __________________________________________________________________ Introducing the New Netscape Internet Service. Only $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pdoubek@xmission.com Subject: Re: (utah-sailing) Race orientation Date: 19 Mar 2004 10:01:26 -0700 Robert... you're not doing the Lake justice! "...it's not as bad as you may think..." It's a GREAT place to sail dinghys. The salt water gives you more incentive to stay in your boat, and the serenity provided by lack of PWCs and ski boats is priceless! Not to mention not having to compete with them at the ramp. (Jordanelle's small craft ramp is probably the scariest I've experienced next to Jordanelle's main ramp!) Time's been tight for me since I started school, and with my schedule with the kids it's been tough to get out to race. I'll bring the Laser out this spring if I can make time. I'll make an extra effort to schedule it in if people post a commitment to this list so we have a fleet. I heartily encourage the dinghy sailors to turn out to race! You won't find a better group of people to organize the race and to hang out with afterwards! Paul Doubek Quoting Robert Harper : > Sorry for the late notice. This week got away from me. > > Tomorrow and Sunday is the race orientation. We will be meeting at the > multipurpose room at 9:00 AM to go over plans for this year and collect > your > racing fees and pass out some paper. Fees will be the same as last year. > > For those of you on the list who are not usually Great Salt Lake sailors. > I > would like to extend an invitation for those of you who may have > dinghies, > catamarans, and other small craft to join us on the lake. We will be > happy to > accommodate you as best we can provided you pay the race fees. You need > not be a > club member to race but the fees are somewhat higher for non members. > > I have raced Lasers and 505's on the lake and it is not as bad as you may > think. > Yes things do get salty but at least there aren't any PWC's to contend > with. > > See you on the lake! > -- > Don't be good... > HAVE LOTS OF FUN! > Robert Harper * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: sail.ray@att.net Subject: Re: (utah-sailing) Vandalism at the Great Salt Lake Marina Date: 20 Mar 2004 14:46:44 +0000 This is not merely mischief. Well someone up there is really pissed at something or someone, or group of someones. I have been giving it my usual analytic thought and have the following suggestions. That person knows about boats heeling. A sailor? Or, just anyone who knows boats sink when they fill with water. The effort was not to sink a vessel, but to harm the occupants. This does fall under the statute of willful intent to do bodily harm and may even be a conspiracy to commit homicide. If the park police and the state attorney general do not follow up on this they should be removed from office. That the event has occurred in waters under the jurisdiction of both the State and the Coast Guard it may even be an FBI jurisdiction event. Has there been any conflicts of interest with the brine shrimp people? Has any person who at one time was a lake user and left with a bitter attitude, who may have returned recently? Is there a specific group who has been targeted? Racers? General lake users? Any size correlation? Has anyone had cause to fail to pay repair billing of some sort? Are the victims common to any thread? Playboys, family, activists? Has the main body of sailors at the marina recently engaged in an argument against another group's interests or goals? Has a person or group failed to gain access to the marina's use, or a commercial venture becasue of sailing group opposition? It may prove useful to solicit from the general public users and the club members confidential letters, written and submitted anonymously, which might tell of a personal run in with a specific person, boater or not. This does not necessarily fall into a recent conflict. It could be months or even years old. Make up a list of reasons why someone would want to do this deed and post the list so others can examine if they might have contributed to this manner of response. I do recall that a few years ago a ruling was applied limiting the duck hunting area away from the marina area. I would propose that a duck hunter would also have the skills to drill a hole. And a duck hunter would have the acquired skills of stealth. Examine the nature of the hole entry and determine what type of device was used. This may offer up some hint as to the mechanical background of the person or persons. This investigation should not be limited to suspecting one person only. It may well be that one person was on look out while the other applied the damage. Do not at any time imagine that the person you seek is a rational angry person. To willfully attempt to kill someone is not a rational spur of the moment event here. This is very premeditated in that it took a specific tool, an entrance to a restricted vessel anchorage, during a time when it could be predicted there would be little if any witnesses. This was very thought out. Well, good luck. Thank God all we worry about here in LA are drive by random shootings. We always know who is doing the crime. And it sells lots of TV commercials on the news. Cheers, Ray & Rockie > To All Great Salt Lake Marina users, > > March 18, 2004 the vandals hit again. This time they cut the gas line on > GALATIA. They made two very small cuts in the gas line, which makes it obvious > that the intent was to have the boat out of the Marina, because with this type > of cut idling and going slow wouldn’t be a problem, but As soon as the motor > was powered up the gas line would suck air and the motor would quit. The plan > worked very well, because GALATIA lost power and almost ended up on the > breakwater. As I mentioned last week holes were drilled in Risky Business. > These are crimes that must not go unpunished. The intent of these crimes are > very serious. And someone could get hurt or die unless we find and stop this > person. These crimes are equal to someone cutting your brake line while driving > and waiting for someone to be home before starting a house on fire. This could > be classified as an attempt on someone’s life. I am offering a $1,000.00 > reward for any information/evidence that directly leads to the arrest and > conviction of whoever is responsible for these crimes. > > Thanks, > Brad Silver > 801-964-5302 > ˙óĺy«ţř¬Š…µ¨I¨ĄŠx1ë,j†«˙řm¶ţ››ëÍş­˘oŰşÖˇ±¨ĄŠx˙ôčţéěą»®&Ţţǧ÷ ¦j)¶j:+v‰¨ţX¬¶š+,Š‰r‰Â+a˙űaú'ůbťˇÜˇş{.nÇ+‰·şÖˇţƢ–)ŕ˙Żú®˘×¬˙ * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Robert Harper Subject: (utah-sailing) Members' Cup offshore Date: 30 Mar 2004 05:29:13 -0700 This Saturday, April 3, we will be having our first offshore race of the 2004 season. The course will be: start at 'S', round '6' to port, round 'C' to port and finish at 'S'. If the wind dies the race may be shortened at 'C'. Skippers' meeting will be at 09:00 and start at 10:30. Committee boat will be "Wasabi". See you there! -- Don't be good... HAVE LOTS OF FUN! Robert Harper * Please visit the Utah Sailing Message Board: * http://pub63.ezboard.com/butahsailing * To unsubscribe send email to majordomo@lists.xmission.com with * the one line body of "unsubscribe utah-sailing" (no quotes).