From: Chris Grant Subject: [OUTDOORS] Hiking during Hunting Season Date: 04 Oct 1999 07:49:09 -0600 I had planned a day hike for this coming Saturday (10/9) to fit in between the muzzleloader deer hunt and the general deer hunt, but then I learned that most (but not all) of my intended route cut across an area in which a limited entry deer hunt would be beginning on that very day. I have decided to do the hike anyway, but to start at one of two alternative trailheads. The first alternative has me use a trail that, for most of its length, forms the boundary of the limited entry area; the second alternative only borders the limited entry area for a very short segment but, in other ways, sounds like the less desirable trail. (The trail is steeper, not as well-marked, and the trail guide _Loving the Laccolith_ says that it is a favorite hangout for rattlesnakes.) A few questions: (1) I realize that it is wise to wear hunter orange while in or near an area in which a deer hunt is going on. Am I correct in my understanding that it is actually illegal for a hiker not to do so? (2) I usually start my hikes at (or slightly before) daybreak. Assuming I take the trail that borders the hunting area, would it probably be best to cede the early morning hours to the hunters and to do my hike later in the day? (3) What sorts of experiences, positive or negative, have list members had doing hikes during hunting season? Chris Grant grant@math.byu.edu - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim L" Subject: Re: [OUTDOORS] Hiking during Hunting Season Date: 04 Oct 1999 14:10:47 GMT ----- (1) I realize that it is wise to wear hunter orange while in or near an area in which a deer hunt is going on. Am I correct in my understanding that it is actually illegal for a hiker not to do so? ----- In Colorado it's not unless you're hunting, not sure in Utah. I would though, just to be on the safe side. Rifle hunting season is just plain dangerous hiking. ------ (2) I usually start my hikes at (or slightly before) daybreak. Assuming I take the trail that borders the hunting area, would it probably be best to cede the early morning hours to the hunters and to do my hike later in the day? ------ As long as you're on the trail and wearing orange you should be OK... I wouldn't go off the trail though in the early morning. ------ (3) What sorts of experiences, positive or negative, have list members had doing hikes during hunting season? ------ Mine have generally been positive in CO, I used to hunt myself, so I can gab with the folks about it. There was a couple of times though where I didn't feel very safe at all. Once when I ran across a drunk dude shooting his .357 at an aspen tree, and another time where a couple of guys in camo with rifles wouldn't let me pass through a public trail that went through what they said was private property. That was scary, because they were probably either poaching or doing something else that wasn't quite legal, and I ran into them. Didn't see a carcass or anything, but they had guns and they said I couldn't go through. I ended up bushwacking several miles out of the way, and called the Sheriff when I got back into town. I hate the idea of being in the woods with drunk yahoos with guns. I know it's a generalization and all, but I stick to Parks or very far into the backcountry, away from the roads, when hiking during hunting season. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Philip Titus" Subject: Re: [OUTDOORS] Hiking during Hunting Season Date: 04 Oct 1999 09:44:32 -0600 Speaking of hunting season, Chris's memo reminded me that I have a hike = in the Stansbury's planned for the 15-16th of Oct. Am I going to be up = against any hunts? I would prefer not to take the risk! (Hmmm... on = second thought, there might be a couple I would be willing to take up....) Phil Titus Troop 538 Woods Cross - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: blager@es.com Subject: RE: [OUTDOORS] Hiking during Hunting Season Date: 04 Oct 1999 09:44:30 -0600 Taking the scouts into the woods during hunting season sounds like a bad mix (for the scouts and the hunters). We used to plan an outing to Little Sahara during hunting season, and enjoy the late season weather in the warmer desert area. Bert > -----Original Message----- > From: Philip Titus [SMTP:PTITUS@media.utah.edu] > Sent: Monday, October 04, 1999 9:45 AM > To: utahoutdoors@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: [OUTDOORS] Hiking during Hunting Season > > Speaking of hunting season, Chris's memo reminded me that I have a hike > in the Stansbury's planned for the 15-16th of Oct. Am I going to be up > against any hunts? I would prefer not to take the risk! (Hmmm... on > second thought, there might be a couple I would be willing to take up....) > > Phil Titus > Troop 538 > Woods Cross > > > - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Curt Kanahele" Subject: [OUTDOORS] Unsubscribe Date: 04 Oct 1999 17:29:22 -0600 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: colleen fisher Subject: [OUTDOORS] Four Corners area Date: 18 Oct 1999 10:14:32 -0500 We are leaving in 48 hours and were wondering if there is any camping spots with electricity/water hook ups near Blanding/Bluff area. Also, is the road on the topo map on 89 northwest of Page AZ and Cannonville passable with camper in tow? It goes to Kodacrome Basin State Park. A quick reply would be nice but I would understand if there is no time for reply. Thanks - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mike Reisner Subject: Re: [OUTDOORS] Four Corners area Date: 18 Oct 1999 09:31:29 +0800 The road is rough and narrow but should be passable. It will be SLOW going though ! >We are leaving in 48 hours and were wondering if there is any camping >spots with electricity/water hook ups near Blanding/Bluff area. > >Also, is the road on the topo map on 89 northwest of Page AZ and >Cannonville passable with camper in tow? It goes to Kodacrome Basin State >Park. > >A quick reply would be nice but I would understand if there is no time for >reply. >Thanks > > >- Michael Reisner Staff Northern Plains Resource Council 2401 Montana Ave. Suite #200 Billings, MT 59101 406-248-1154 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lou & Jim Gostlin Subject: Re: [OUTDOORS] Four Corners area Date: 18 Oct 1999 10:05:08 -0600 Hi! First question: Several times I have stayed at a campground in Bluff. I think it is called the "Cadillac Ranch" or something like that. It is on the east side of the road. Easily visible. I think it has hook ups. I have only been there with a tent. They have nice showers though. Bluff is absolutely beautiful. I'd stay there over Blanding. I think Blanding is a little higher, thus colder. And I don't recall any improved campgrounds in Blanding. I wasn't looking Sunday, the last time we were there. While you are on Bluff, don't miss the petroglyphs at Sand Island. As for Route 89, maybe someone else can tell you more, but from what I remember of that stretch of road (it's been years), I think it is fairly good. I don't know at all about any of the roads leading off of 89. Good luck! Have a great trip! Lou colleen fisher wrote: > We are leaving in 48 hours and were wondering if there is any camping spots with electricity/water hook ups near Blanding/Bluff area. > > Also, is the road on the topo map on 89 northwest of Page AZ and Cannonville passable with camper in tow? It goes to Kodacrome Basin State Park. > > A quick reply would be nice but I would understand if there is no time for reply. > Thanks > > - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Brandt-Erichsen Subject: Re: [OUTDOORS] Four Corners area Date: 18 Oct 1999 10:58:25 -0700 At 09:31 AM 10/18/99 +0800, you wrote: >The road is rough and narrow but should be passable. It will be SLOW going >though ! > > >Also, is the road on the topo map on 89 northwest of Page AZ and > >Cannonville passable with camper in tow? It goes to Kodacrome Basin State > >Park. There is one significant dip at Hackberry creek that could cause problems with a camper in tow. However, I have not been on the road since it was worked on last year after being washed out in several places. Also, the road is clay, so if it gets wet from any significant rain, it becomes impassable even for 4-wheel drive, so if it's raining, don't even think about it. Other than that, it's a good road. David -