From: David Kenison Subject: [OUTDOORS] Escalante Date: 05 Feb 1998 10:11:32 -0700 (MST) I'm planning a spring hike to the Escalante area, considering several different routes. Anyone have experience or impressions on the area? The two routes we're looking at are the Fence/Twentyfive Mile loop, and the Coyote hike. I'd be interested in descriptions of the routes, highlights, how much time to spend, etc. David Kenison - Orem, Utah dkenison@xmission.com My Homepage URL: http://www.xmission.com/~dkenison/ Internet Lists: LDS-GEMS, Cougar-Net, UtahOutdoors, Brasil-SUD - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Mann" Subject: Re: [OUTDOORS] Escalante Date: 05 Feb 1998 10:37:49 -0700 David, I've done the Coyote hike several times in the past years. I've posted some info on my web site. The URL is http://www.gearreview.com/destinations.asp I highly recommend the hike. Coyote is one of those magical places you'll never forget. In spring the Escalante river will be high, making it difficult to venture upstream from the confluence with Coyote Creek to see Stevens Arch. I've usually gone in mid to late October and the weather is great -- although in both 96 and 97 my group got out just before big snow storms cooled things down. April weather should be comparable. In October we've seen a few people, but you could count the number of groups on one hand. Steve Mann David Kenison wrote: > I'm planning a spring hike to the Escalante area, considering several > different routes. Anyone have experience or impressions on the area? > The > two routes we're looking at are the Fence/Twentyfive Mile loop, and > the > Coyote hike. I'd be interested in descriptions of the routes, > highlights, > how much time to spend, etc. > > ---------------------------------------------------- > David Kenison - Orem, Utah dkenison@xmission.com > My Homepage URL: http://www.xmission.com/~dkenison/ > Internet Lists: LDS-GEMS, Cougar-Net, UtahOutdoors, Brasil-SUD > > - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Kenison Subject: Re: [OUTDOORS] Escalante Date: 05 Feb 1998 10:49:33 -0700 (MST) This response bounced, because the address it was sent from is different than the one registered on the list. Thanks for the info, Myke: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- David, we've done Coyote Gulch twice, and it's a great hike. From the willow tank down hurricane wash is a really sandy dificult entrance, when i went with two of my friends we didn't even notice, but on a second trip some people in our group really got bogged down in the sand and voiced their disapproval, they were pretty upset. Our first trip took us one LONG day to walk form the willow tank all the way to the escalante, on the second day we left our packs and went exploring up Steven's canyon (i would definately recommend this side trip). We then headed about halfway back up that evening, and climbed out at the forty-mile exit (near Jacob Hamblin Arch) the next morning. If you started your trip at this point instead of at the willow tank you could save considerable time and have more time to go up steven's canyon or take your time enjoying coyote more. It's a little difficult to find your way across the slickrock (there were few cairns when we went) to the forty mile entrance, and it is a steep scramble into the canyon, so it might be a good idea to bring a rope to lower packs down. We were actually planning a trip down coyote gulch for spring break, and then up steven's to make a big week long loop. But, we're debating whether the Buckskin Gulch and the Paria would be better though, these are truly the decisions in life that are the hardest to make. hope this little bit helps out, have a great time! Myke Bybee - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Roger Jenkins/Susie McDonald" Subject: Re: [OUTDOORS] Escalante Date: 05 Feb 1998 20:42:38 -0500 Boy, I have to stop and think about how many times this crew from Tennessee has been to Escalante: Let's see: Hurricane/Coyote to Fence Canyon, In at Harris Wash, out the Gulch; Dry Fork Coyote to Scorpion Gulch; In at 25 Mile Wash, out Harris Wash. That ain't too bad since 1980, 'cause there ARE other canyons in Utah. For my money, the best week long trip is to go in at Harris Wash (1.5 days to the river), then up the river to the mouth of Horse Canyon. Layover there, giving you a chance to go up Little Death Hollow. Then a short day up to the Mouth of The Gulch (giving you time to explore the slickrock immediately above the campsite) and then layover, giving you a chance to walk upstream for a couple of miles, and climb up into Main Street (These are the huge canyons up on the plateau that run straight for a mile). The take a couple of days to go out the Gulch. I think the best time is the last week of April. Lambrechtse's book on the Escalante is a must, for directions to some of the harder to get to places. This year, we are headed for the Grand Canyon: In the Thunder river trail to deer Creek, then along the river for a couple of days to Kanab Creek, up Kanab to JumpUp and then into Indian Hollow. The trip out Indian Hollow is supposed to be rough. Anyone had any experience at that trip. Roger Roger Jenkins/Susie McDonald Co-Editors: the Tennes-Sierran Our newsletter is available at: www.cs.utk.edu/~dixon/hbgsierra.html -----Original Message----- >This response bounced, because the address it was sent from is different >than the one registered on the list. Thanks for the info, Myke: > >---------- Forwarded message ---------- >Date: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 10:38:14 -0700 (MST) >From: SLGS1@cc.usu.edu >Subject: Re: [OUTDOORS] Escalante >To: utahoutdoors@lists.xmission.com > >David, > we've done Coyote Gulch twice, and it's a great hike. From the willow >tank down hurricane wash is a really sandy dificult entrance, when i went with >two of my friends we didn't even notice, but on a second trip some people in >our group really got bogged down in the sand and voiced their disapproval, they >were pretty upset. Our first trip took us one LONG day to walk form the willow >tank all the way to the escalante, on the second day we left our packs and went >exploring up Steven's canyon (i would definately recommend this side trip). > We then headed about halfway back up that evening, and climbed out >at the forty-mile exit (near Jacob Hamblin Arch) the next morning. If you >started your trip at this point instead of at the willow tank you could save >considerable time and have more time to go up steven's canyon or take your time >enjoying coyote more. It's a little difficult to find your way across the >slickrock (there were few cairns when we went) to the forty mile entrance, and >it is a steep scramble into the canyon, so it might be a good idea to bring >a rope to lower packs down. > We were actually planning a trip down coyote gulch for spring break, >and then up steven's to make a big week long loop. But, we're debating whether >the Buckskin Gulch and the Paria would be better though, these are truly the >decisions in life that are the hardest to make. > hope this little bit helps out, have a great time! > >Myke Bybee > > > >- > > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jill moore Subject: [OUTDOORS] hiking trips Date: 09 Feb 1998 14:10:42 -0500 I'm going to be in Salt Lake City during the last weekend in Feb., and I'm interested in a one or two day hike in the SLC area. Can anyone give me information on organized trips for Feb. 27-28? Thanks. Jill Moore jlmoore@powerway.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Cheryl Soshnik Subject: [OUTDOORS] hiking trips -Reply Date: 09 Feb 1998 12:51:58 -0700 Try the Wasatch Mountain Club for finding organized hikes at the end of February. Their web site is digitalpla.net/~wmc End of February is pretty snowy, so most "hikes" are "snowshoe trips". Cheryl - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ryan Spaustat Subject: [OUTDOORS] looking for advice Date: 17 Feb 1998 19:59:07 -0700 (MST) Hi, I happened to come across this mailing list and thought it might be a good place to get some advice. I'm planning on taking a 4 to 5 night backpacking trip in Utah the last week in March. We're considering either Capitol Reef or Zion national parks. I was hoping for advice one way or the other (or any other suggestions) taking into consideration the weather, scenery, and drive time from denver, co. Thanks for any help, Ryan - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kathy & Lynn Subject: Re: [OUTDOORS] looking for advice Date: 18 Feb 1998 13:03:51 -0700 > I'm planning on taking a 4 to 5 night > backpacking trip in Utah the last week in March. We're considering either > Capitol Reef or Zion national parks. Ryan, My family spent Easter at Zions a few years ago, when Easter was in March. The weather was wonderful, and we did several day hikes. We left snow behind, and we were in 70+ weather. It was VERY crowded, though, but then again, it was Easter weekend. Campgrounds fill up early in the morning, before 10:00. We went to Capitol Reef last summer when it was very hot, and it was still really nice there, too. There were flash floods from summer rainstorms at the time though, so several of the longer hikes up washes were closed just in case the weather turned bad quickly. The short hikes were very nice, though. The area was beautiful in both places, but perhaps Zions will be warmer that time of year. Anyone else know for sure? Kathy - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Diener Subject: RE: [OUTDOORS] looking for advice Date: 18 Feb 1998 15:24:51 -0700 Zion (at least the non-plateau areas) weather may be better late March. A nice area for a multi-day excursion is La Verkin creek. Several days can be spent exploring Kolob Arch, Hop Valley, Beartrap Canyon, Willis Creek, and it is probably low enough to not be under snowpack. The southern areas of the park may be nice too (Coalpit Wash?? anyone with experience?), although I haven't been. I know Capitol Reef is a little higher/cooler, but haven't been there in the late March time frame. JD -----Original Message----- From: Ryan Spaustat [SMTP:spaustat@bechtel.Colorado.EDU] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 1998 7:59 PM To: utahoutdoors@xmission.com Subject: [OUTDOORS] looking for advice Hi, I happened to come across this mailing list and thought it might be a good place to get some advice. I'm planning on taking a 4 to 5 night backpacking trip in Utah the last week in March. We're considering either Capitol Reef or Zion national parks. I was hoping for advice one way or the other (or any other suggestions) taking into consideration the weather, scenery, and drive time from denver, co. Thanks for any help, Ryan - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: RE: [OUTDOORS] looking for advice Date: 18 Feb 1998 20:42:14 -0500 John Diener ,Internet writes: Zion (at least the non-plateau areas) weather may be better late March. A nice area for a multi-day excursion is La Verkin creek. Several days can be spent exploring Kolob Arch, Hop Valley, Beartrap Canyon, Willis Creek, and it is probably low enough to not be under snowpack. The southern areas of the park may be nice too (Coalpit Wash?? anyone with experience?), although I haven't been. I know Capitol Reef is a little higher/cooler, but haven't been there in the late March time frame. JD ----- I would advise some caution in the Kolob section of Arches (La Verkin creek, Willis creek, etc.) in late March. The area is not immune to some heavy snow and rain storms. The head of Willis creek is used as summer range for cattle, but not for winter due to the snow and weather. -