From: owner-utahoutdoors-digest@lists.xmission.com (utahoutdoors-digest) To: utahoutdoors-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: utahoutdoors-digest V2 #4 Reply-To: utahoutdoors-digest Sender: owner-utahoutdoors-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-utahoutdoors-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk utahoutdoors-digest Wednesday, February 18 1998 Volume 02 : Number 004 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 10:49:33 -0700 (MST) From: David Kenison Subject: Re: [OUTDOORS] Escalante This response bounced, because the address it was sent from is different than the one registered on the list. Thanks for the info, Myke: - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 10:38:14 -0700 (MST) From: SLGS1@cc.usu.edu Subject: Re: [OUTDOORS] Escalante To: utahoutdoors@lists.xmission.com David, we've done Coyote Gulch twice, and it's a great hike. From the willow tank down hurricane wash is a really sandy dificult entrance, when i went with two of my friends we didn't even notice, but on a second trip some people in our group really got bogged down in the sand and voiced their disapproval, they were pretty upset. Our first trip took us one LONG day to walk form the willow tank all the way to the escalante, on the second day we left our packs and went exploring up Steven's canyon (i would definately recommend this side trip). We then headed about halfway back up that evening, and climbed out at the forty-mile exit (near Jacob Hamblin Arch) the next morning. If you started your trip at this point instead of at the willow tank you could save considerable time and have more time to go up steven's canyon or take your time enjoying coyote more. It's a little difficult to find your way across the slickrock (there were few cairns when we went) to the forty mile entrance, and it is a steep scramble into the canyon, so it might be a good idea to bring a rope to lower packs down. We were actually planning a trip down coyote gulch for spring break, and then up steven's to make a big week long loop. But, we're debating whether the Buckskin Gulch and the Paria would be better though, these are truly the decisions in life that are the hardest to make. hope this little bit helps out, have a great time! Myke Bybee - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 20:42:38 -0500 From: "Roger Jenkins/Susie McDonald" Subject: Re: [OUTDOORS] Escalante Boy, I have to stop and think about how many times this crew from Tennessee has been to Escalante: Let's see: Hurricane/Coyote to Fence Canyon, In at Harris Wash, out the Gulch; Dry Fork Coyote to Scorpion Gulch; In at 25 Mile Wash, out Harris Wash. That ain't too bad since 1980, 'cause there ARE other canyons in Utah. For my money, the best week long trip is to go in at Harris Wash (1.5 days to the river), then up the river to the mouth of Horse Canyon. Layover there, giving you a chance to go up Little Death Hollow. Then a short day up to the Mouth of The Gulch (giving you time to explore the slickrock immediately above the campsite) and then layover, giving you a chance to walk upstream for a couple of miles, and climb up into Main Street (These are the huge canyons up on the plateau that run straight for a mile). The take a couple of days to go out the Gulch. I think the best time is the last week of April. Lambrechtse's book on the Escalante is a must, for directions to some of the harder to get to places. This year, we are headed for the Grand Canyon: In the Thunder river trail to deer Creek, then along the river for a couple of days to Kanab Creek, up Kanab to JumpUp and then into Indian Hollow. The trip out Indian Hollow is supposed to be rough. Anyone had any experience at that trip. Roger Roger Jenkins/Susie McDonald Co-Editors: the Tennes-Sierran Our newsletter is available at: www.cs.utk.edu/~dixon/hbgsierra.html - -----Original Message----- From: David Kenison To: utahoutdoors@xmission.xmission.com Date: Thursday, February 05, 1998 12:50 PM Subject: Re: [OUTDOORS] Escalante >This response bounced, because the address it was sent from is different >than the one registered on the list. Thanks for the info, Myke: > >---------- Forwarded message ---------- >Date: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 10:38:14 -0700 (MST) >From: SLGS1@cc.usu.edu >Subject: Re: [OUTDOORS] Escalante >To: utahoutdoors@lists.xmission.com > >David, > we've done Coyote Gulch twice, and it's a great hike. From the willow >tank down hurricane wash is a really sandy dificult entrance, when i went with >two of my friends we didn't even notice, but on a second trip some people in >our group really got bogged down in the sand and voiced their disapproval, they >were pretty upset. Our first trip took us one LONG day to walk form the willow >tank all the way to the escalante, on the second day we left our packs and went >exploring up Steven's canyon (i would definately recommend this side trip). > We then headed about halfway back up that evening, and climbed out >at the forty-mile exit (near Jacob Hamblin Arch) the next morning. If you >started your trip at this point instead of at the willow tank you could save >considerable time and have more time to go up steven's canyon or take your time >enjoying coyote more. It's a little difficult to find your way across the >slickrock (there were few cairns when we went) to the forty mile entrance, and >it is a steep scramble into the canyon, so it might be a good idea to bring >a rope to lower packs down. > We were actually planning a trip down coyote gulch for spring break, >and then up steven's to make a big week long loop. But, we're debating whether >the Buckskin Gulch and the Paria would be better though, these are truly the >decisions in life that are the hardest to make. > hope this little bit helps out, have a great time! > >Myke Bybee > > > >- > > - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 14:10:42 -0500 From: jill moore Subject: [OUTDOORS] hiking trips I'm going to be in Salt Lake City during the last weekend in Feb., and I'm interested in a one or two day hike in the SLC area. Can anyone give me information on organized trips for Feb. 27-28? Thanks. Jill Moore jlmoore@powerway.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 12:51:58 -0700 From: Cheryl Soshnik Subject: [OUTDOORS] hiking trips -Reply Try the Wasatch Mountain Club for finding organized hikes at the end of February. Their web site is digitalpla.net/~wmc End of February is pretty snowy, so most "hikes" are "snowshoe trips". Cheryl - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 19:59:07 -0700 (MST) From: Ryan Spaustat Subject: [OUTDOORS] looking for advice Hi, I happened to come across this mailing list and thought it might be a good place to get some advice. I'm planning on taking a 4 to 5 night backpacking trip in Utah the last week in March. We're considering either Capitol Reef or Zion national parks. I was hoping for advice one way or the other (or any other suggestions) taking into consideration the weather, scenery, and drive time from denver, co. Thanks for any help, Ryan - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 13:03:51 -0700 From: Kathy & Lynn Subject: Re: [OUTDOORS] looking for advice > I'm planning on taking a 4 to 5 night > backpacking trip in Utah the last week in March. We're considering either > Capitol Reef or Zion national parks. Ryan, My family spent Easter at Zions a few years ago, when Easter was in March. The weather was wonderful, and we did several day hikes. We left snow behind, and we were in 70+ weather. It was VERY crowded, though, but then again, it was Easter weekend. Campgrounds fill up early in the morning, before 10:00. We went to Capitol Reef last summer when it was very hot, and it was still really nice there, too. There were flash floods from summer rainstorms at the time though, so several of the longer hikes up washes were closed just in case the weather turned bad quickly. The short hikes were very nice, though. The area was beautiful in both places, but perhaps Zions will be warmer that time of year. Anyone else know for sure? Kathy - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 15:24:51 -0700 From: John Diener Subject: RE: [OUTDOORS] looking for advice Zion (at least the non-plateau areas) weather may be better late March. A nice area for a multi-day excursion is La Verkin creek. Several days can be spent exploring Kolob Arch, Hop Valley, Beartrap Canyon, Willis Creek, and it is probably low enough to not be under snowpack. The southern areas of the park may be nice too (Coalpit Wash?? anyone with experience?), although I haven't been. I know Capitol Reef is a little higher/cooler, but haven't been there in the late March time frame. JD -----Original Message----- From: Ryan Spaustat [SMTP:spaustat@bechtel.Colorado.EDU] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 1998 7:59 PM To: utahoutdoors@xmission.com Subject: [OUTDOORS] looking for advice Hi, I happened to come across this mailing list and thought it might be a good place to get some advice. I'm planning on taking a 4 to 5 night backpacking trip in Utah the last week in March. We're considering either Capitol Reef or Zion national parks. I was hoping for advice one way or the other (or any other suggestions) taking into consideration the weather, scenery, and drive time from denver, co. Thanks for any help, Ryan - - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 20:42:14 -0500 From: Subject: Re: RE: [OUTDOORS] looking for advice John Diener ,Internet writes: Zion (at least the non-plateau areas) weather may be better late March. A nice area for a multi-day excursion is La Verkin creek. Several days can be spent exploring Kolob Arch, Hop Valley, Beartrap Canyon, Willis Creek, and it is probably low enough to not be under snowpack. The southern areas of the park may be nice too (Coalpit Wash?? anyone with experience?), although I haven't been. I know Capitol Reef is a little higher/cooler, but haven't been there in the late March time frame. JD - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ----- I would advise some caution in the Kolob section of Arches (La Verkin creek, Willis creek, etc.) in late March. The area is not immune to some heavy snow and rain storms. The head of Willis creek is used as summer range for cattle, but not for winter due to the snow and weather. - - ------------------------------ End of utahoutdoors-digest V2 #4 ********************************