From: owner-utahoutdoors-digest@lists.xmission.com (utahoutdoors-digest) To: utahoutdoors-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: utahoutdoors-digest V2 #96 Reply-To: utahoutdoors-digest Sender: owner-utahoutdoors-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-utahoutdoors-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk utahoutdoors-digest Monday, June 8 1998 Volume 02 : Number 096 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 08 Jun 1998 19:23:04 +0200 From: Jeanne Doomen Subject: Re: [OUTDOORS] Going, going... STAYING At 09:49 8-06-1998 -0600, David wrote: >After several personal notes begging me to reconsider, and after the >positive response of messages sent to the list, I guess we'll try a little >while longer. I appreciate all the encouragement. > I am so glad you'll give it another try. This year I won't be able to go to Utah. If people have questions I can answer, I will do so. Thanks, David, Jeanne http://www.xs4all.nl/~doobeau - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jun 1998 15:21:43 -0500 From: "gcburt" Subject: [OUTDOORS] Re: Goblin Valley This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_01A4_01BD92F1.24D8BF00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable - -----Original Message----- From: Mike Gillen - Date: Monday, June 08, 1998 11:18 AM Subject: Re: [OUTDOORS] Going, going... STAYING - Trip Report Hi All! Dave, thanks for keeping the list. So as not to waste bandwidth, I'll give a report on my recent trip to = Goblin Valley. Thanks Mike for the report on Goblin Valley. I looked up the park on a = "Utah Remote" URL and found two pictures with snow covering the area. = What are you trying to do to me - make me so home-sick I leave work and = head for Utah. Like the first time I looked up USU's home page and = right there was Old Main with the Wellsville mountains in the background = - - I almost bawled. For many years we made an annual trek back to Utah and must have stayed = overnight at Wilson's Arch 6 or 8 times. If we'd know we could have = taken a different road and stopped at Goblin Valley and the kids could = have seen something new. Enjoyed your report Garth and Linda Burt=20 Corpus Christi, TX (for three more weeks) - ------=_NextPart_000_01A4_01BD92F1.24D8BF00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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From: = Mike Gillen -=20 Date: Monday, June 08, 1998 11:18 AM
Subject: Re: [OUTDOORS] Going, = going...=20 STAYING - Trip Report

Hi All!

Dave, thanks for keeping the list.

So = as not=20 to waste bandwidth, I'll give a report on my recent trip to Goblin=20 Valley.

Thanks Mike for the report = on Goblin=20 Valley.  I looked up the park on a "Utah Remote" URL and = found=20 two pictures with snow covering the area.  What are you trying to = do to me=20 - - make me so home-sick I leave work and head for Utah.  Like the = first time=20 I looked up USU's home page and right there was Old Main with the = Wellsville=20 mountains in the background - I almost bawled.
 
For many years we made an = annual trek=20 back to Utah and must have stayed overnight at Wilson's Arch 6 or 8 = times. =20 If we'd know we could have taken a different road and stopped at Goblin = Valley=20 and the kids could have seen something new.
 
Enjoyed your = report
 
Garth and Linda Burt =
Corpus Christi, TX (for = three more=20 weeks)
 
- ------=_NextPart_000_01A4_01BD92F1.24D8BF00-- - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Jun 1998 21:02:04 +0200 From: Jeanne Doomen Subject: [OUTDOORS] Re: Goblin Valley At 10:18 8-06-1998 -0600, Mike wrote: You may reserve a campsite or camp in nearby BLM land. We opted for a reserved site (it was hard to get - someone cancelled) beacuse I was taking my family and a new pop-up trailer (hey, I also backpack but the wife doesn't) Anyway, the campsite is literally a parking space in front of a flat area with a picknic table and BBQ. ALL the campsites are lined up right next to eachother, no trees (its quite the desert), no privacy. Oh well. I have often popped in there. Because the goblins are - well..- really 'neat'. I have also seen this camping site and thought I wouldn't be caught dead camping there because of the lack of privacy at the same time acknowledging that for a BLM campground there _is_ a lot of space and it is pretty luxurious too. For those who want more privacy: continue on the road to Bell - there is a beautiful camping spot there. Or drive on even further. I think what is spoiling Goblin Valley now is the busses with the tourists who drop down on the goblins, take their pics and then have a very loud picnic from the viewpoint. Last time I was there was last september. The weather was cold, there had been a lot of rain and although a bus had just arrived most folks stayed as close to the picnic spot as they could. So: go there if you can avoid the crowds. It's beautiful. Jeanne http://www.xs4all.nl/~doobeau - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Jun 1998 13:39:26 -0600 From: "Jennifer Earnshaw" Subject: [OUTDOORS] Re: Goblin Valley My two cents on Goblin Valley: - -Take a hike up one of the slot canyons that are right next to Goblin = Valley (Bell Canyon, Little Wild Horse Canyon (?) ,etc.=20 - -There are many private and very nice camping spots several miles further = west than Goblin Valley on the same dirt road - -Check your calendar and time your Goblin Valley trip for a full moon. = This makes for incredible fun among the Goblins at night. =20 - --Jennifer - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Jun 1998 14:13:26 -0600 From: "Jennifer Earnshaw" Subject: [OUTDOORS] Astronomical Observation Tunnels Over Memorial Weekend we went driving and camping north and west of the = Great Salt Lake. We headed west from I-15 by Brigham City, stopping at = Thiokol (interesting for 15 minutes) to see their rocket display then to = the Golden Spike National Park to see the steam trains. We wandered = around on the back roads (dirt but very good condition) until we ended up = in the very north, west corner of the state. We camped in a beautiful = green valley north of Lynn (that's a town of 3 farm houses) with good = streams and all the privacy one could ask for on Memorial Weekend (only = saw one other camper all weekend) . Eventually we headed south again = through Grouse Creek (gas station we were happy to see) and directly down = to Wendover on I-80. There were many interesting stops for train buffs = along the way but one stop that I would like more information about.=20 About 2 hours north of I-80 out there west of the Salt Lake there was = something marked on my map called Astronomical Observation Tunnels. No = signs and several miles off the main road we found these tunnels which = were huge concrete tubes positioned to form an X. In each of the tunnels = there were many holes cut which look up toward the sky. I think I = remember reading something about these tunnels years ago that each tube is = for a season and the holes aim towards certain constellations, planets, = etc. The problem is there are no markings on these tubes so one doesn't = know what one is looking at and even which tunnel is right for which = season. Does anyone have information on these tunnels? I haven't yet = asked places like Hansen Planetarium. I can give more specific directions = to these places if anyone is interested. --Jennifer - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Jun 1998 16:07:37 -0600 From: Kathy & Lynn Subject: [OUTDOORS] Re: Goblin Valley We were told Goblin Valley was the best, so we went there last year on our way home from Capitol Reef. The dirt washboard about did us in, as we were pulling a tent trailer! When we got there, it was really hot and REALLY windy. The campground was just like it was described earlier. Lots of dirt that the kids would have loved, but not mom. The temp was over 100 then in August, so we picniced at the view area, then let the kids play for a while on the goblins, then made the decision to not camp there. It was so hot, that we really needed shade, so we faced the washboard road going out. It is a truly baren area with no trees at all. The laser tag sounds fun, though, and it would probably be better when the weather is cooler. Garth, Where is Wilson's Arch? Kathy - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Jun 1998 16:31:05 -0600 From: "Richard T. De Van" Subject: Re: [OUTDOORS] Astronomical Observation Tunnels Thanks, David, for sticking around! Jennifer, those are the Sun Tunnels - they line up with the solstice sunrises (and sunsets, I think). I cannot remember what the other holes are for, though. This brings up a related subject - art objects and GSL. I can only think of two others - Spiral Jetty and that unsightly tree (JMO). I also remember a Cadillac Ranch-type display up around Park Valley a few years ago - one of those places where someone planted a row of automobiles, sort of post-Modern folk art. Does anyone know if that is still there? There are probably more sculptures I am not thinking of off the top of my head. Rick - -- Richard T. De Van rdevan@rtd1.com Salt Lake City, Utah RTD-ONE http://www.rtd1.com - - ------------------------------ End of utahoutdoors-digest V2 #96 *********************************