From: owner-utahoutdoors-digest@lists.xmission.com (utahoutdoors-digest) To: utahoutdoors-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: utahoutdoors-digest V2 #98 Reply-To: utahoutdoors-digest Sender: owner-utahoutdoors-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-utahoutdoors-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk utahoutdoors-digest Tuesday, June 23 1998 Volume 02 : Number 098 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 15:52:13 -0700 From: Deidra Walpole / Bruce Wright Subject: Re: [OUTDOORS] Dark Canyon Wilderness Area Randall R. Arabie wrote: > > I am trying to plan a backpacking trip in Utah for November '98. My > group size will be 2 to 6 persons and a dog. My first idea was the > Dark Canyon Wilderness Area, however, I've found it difficult to find > published information on the area and backpacking oportunities there. My name is Bruce. My wife and I just finished a six day 38 mile backpack down the Paria River. It was incredible. We didn't see another human for 4 of those days. It is a BLM Wilderness area and dogs are allowed at this point. For basic info go to: http://www.for.nau.edu/paria-permits/pariainfo.html It is a geologic dream of a hike, lots of slot canyons, springs. You start high at Whitehouse Trailhead and essentially walk down the river to Lees Ferry at the Colorado River. You can leave your car at Lees Ferry and get a shuttle from the locals to the trailhead. If you decide to do this write me and I can recommend some names because the BLM won't (insurance reasons) > > Do you have any advice or leads on this area. I am in the very early > stages of planning so I need basic information, like: > > 1. Where are the trailheads and are they accessible to other than > 4X4 or high clearance vehicles. > > 2. Are weather conditions in November typcially conducive to > backpacking. I understand that this will vary greatly with > elevation. > > 3. Are permits required. > > 4. Are you aware of any guidebooks or maps (other than USGS Topos) > that cover the area. > > My second choice of destination is the Grand Gulch Primitive area, > which I have found more inforamtion on. Any suggestions there would > be appreciated as well. Agreat loop hike is to go in at Kane Gulch, down to Grand gulch and back up and out Bullet Canyon. Cedar Mesa is one of our favorite areas. Great canyon hiking, incredible Anasazi sites, glyphs everywhere. > > Thanks in advance for your help, I am looking forward to hearing > from you. Your help is greatly appreciated. > > Randall R. Arabie > Denver, CO > > randyarabie@enecotech.com > rrarabie@idcomm.com > > - - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 22:38:35 -0400 From: "Roger Jenkins/Susie McDonald" Subject: Re: [OUTDOORS] Dark Canyon Wilderness Area Ok, here is the deal. first, Nov weather could be iffy at best. Especially in the upper elevations of the hike. Also, days will be shorter and nites longer. A bunch of us did a hike from the lower part, going in on the Sundance "trail" (very rough 1500' ft descent. And came out Woodenshoe Canyon. We did that in 9 days, but that left lots of time to explore, and throw in 2.5 layover days (one to go to the lake at the bottom of Sundance, one to explore Youngs Canyon and a half day at Black Steer, and another full day (almost) at Cherry ? in Upper Woodenshoe. Plan on about 4 hours for the car shuttle. There are books with information, and plan on taking your time, but it was nowhere near as tough as our most recent canyon trip: http://www.kaibab.org/happy/gctr9805.htm If you want some more details, email me directly. Roger Roger A. Jenkins Co-Editor: Tennes-Sierran The Tennes-Sieran is available in PDF format at: www.cs.utk.edu/~dixon/hbgsierra.html - -----Original Message----- From: Randall R. Arabie To: utahoutdoors@lists.xmission.com Date: Tuesday, June 09, 1998 10:45 AM Subject: [OUTDOORS] Dark Canyon Wilderness Area I am trying to plan a backpacking trip in Utah for November '98. My group size will be 2 to 6 persons and a dog. My first idea was the Dark Canyon Wilderness Area, however, I've found it difficult to find published information on the area and backpacking oportunities there. Do you have any advice or leads on this area. I am in the very early stages of planning so I need basic information, like: 1. Where are the trailheads and are they accessible to other than 4X4 or high clearance vehicles. 2. Are weather conditions in November typcially conducive to backpacking. I understand that this will vary greatly with elevation. 3. Are permits required. 4. Are you aware of any guidebooks or maps (other than USGS Topos) that cover the area. My second choice of destination is the Grand Gulch Primitive area, which I have found more inforamtion on. Any suggestions there would be appreciated as well. Thanks in advance for your help, I am looking forward to hearing from you. Your help is greatly appreciated. Randall R. Arabie Denver, CO randyarabie@enecotech.com rrarabie@idcomm.com - - - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 08:34:58 +0000 From: "Randall R. Arabie" Subject: [OUTDOORS] Dark Canyon Wilderness Area I am trying to plan a backpacking trip in Utah for November '98. My group size will be 2 to 6 persons and a dog. My first idea was the Dark Canyon Wilderness Area, however, I've found it difficult to find published information on the area and backpacking oportunities there. Do you have any advice or leads on this area. I am in the very early stages of planning so I need basic information, like: 1. Where are the trailheads and are they accessible to other than 4X4 or high clearance vehicles. 2. Are weather conditions in November typcially conducive to backpacking. I understand that this will vary greatly with elevation. 3. Are permits required. 4. Are you aware of any guidebooks or maps (other than USGS Topos) that cover the area. My second choice of destination is the Grand Gulch Primitive area, which I have found more inforamtion on. Any suggestions there would be appreciated as well. Thanks in advance for your help, I am looking forward to hearing from you. Your help is greatly appreciated. Randall R. Arabie Denver, CO randyarabie@enecotech.com rrarabie@idcomm.com - - - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 08:11:19 -0600 (MDT) From: Terri Smith PlanB John Horn Subject: Re: [OUTDOORS] Astronomical Observation Tunnels Jennifer, Could you please not line wrap in your emails. It makes for a very long line that is difficult for some of us to read. And your last email had such good information in it, too. I want to read every word. Terri planb@xmission.com - - - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 08:36:34 -0600 (MDT) From: David Kenison Subject: [OUTDOORS] Hike - Deseret Peak Thanks to Bill for this report (remember that you have to post from the same address you're subscribed from!). I really love this kind of "hike report" - keep 'em coming! -DK - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- BOUNCE utahoutdoors@lists.xmission.com: Non-member submission from [Bill Lawrence ] Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 07:09:31 -0600 From: Bill Lawrence To: utahoutdoors@xmission.com Subject: Hike - Deseret Peak Well since I'm new to this page I thought I'd give a description of a hike we just took to Deseret Peak. It is part of the Deseret Peak Wilderness area in the Stansbury Moutains. We Left May 22 from SLC and came home Saturday the 23rd. This was a prep hike for our future planned hike to hike Explorer Peak in the Uintas later this summer. Anyway, to reach the trail head you head South out of Grantsville, Utah for a few miles to the South Willow Canyon turnoff. You drive clear to the end of this road. There are several campsites in the upper loop with tables etc. This year there was still approx. 4' of snow at the top so we started a little lower. The trail head begins right at the top of the loop. We were hiking in snow the whole way. At first It was great for hiking because it was stiff enough for us to stay on top. The trail splits further up (I'm not sure on the distance), heading North will take you to South Willow Lake the other way (South) to hike the peak. There is a small sign that marks the trail. We headed up the peak trail. We hiked in to just about 3/4 of a mile from what I call the big saddle, and set up camp. Some parts of the hike were difficult because we were sinking in the snow. The next morning, with the colder night the snow was great for hiking again. We reached the peak around 11:30 AM. There were a couple of guys that beat us to the peak that day using cross country skis with skins, using a different route. The view from the top is great. The peak is 11,031 feet. To the West you see Skull Valley, North East the Great Salt Lake and to the East the Wasatch Mountains can be seen over the Oquirrh Mountains. The hike back was most enjoyable. There are large open spring snow fields to slide down. We hiked out and were back to SLC by 3:00 pm. - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 06:26:07 -0600 (MDT) From: David Kenison Subject: [OUTDOORS] Capitol Reef There's an article in this morning's Tribune about Capitol Reef National Park: http://www.sltrib.com/06231998/Outdoors/39912.htm I confess to not having spent much time in this area. The article descibes some interesting features. Anybody have any experiences hiking in the area? - ---------------------------------------------------- David Kenison - Orem, Utah dkenison@xmission.com My Homepage URL: http://www.xmission.com/~dkenison/ Internet Lists: LDS-GEMS, Cougar-Net, UtahOutdoors, Brasil-SUD - - ------------------------------ End of utahoutdoors-digest V2 #98 *********************************