From: owner-utahoutdoors-digest@lists.xmission.com (utahoutdoors-digest) To: utahoutdoors-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: utahoutdoors-digest V2 #107 Reply-To: utahoutdoors-digest Sender: owner-utahoutdoors-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-utahoutdoors-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk utahoutdoors-digest Wednesday, February 3 1999 Volume 02 : Number 107 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 18:55:52 -0700 From: Lou & Jim Gostlin Subject: [OUTDOORS] to T.L. Phillips This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------F417F3795232AFCCC8421598 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit - --------------F417F3795232AFCCC8421598 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from lists.xmission.com [198.60.22.7] by lasal.net with ESMTP (SMTPD32-4.06) id AD2A12DE011E; Tue, 02 Feb 1999 18:58:02 MST7MDT Received: from domo by lists.xmission.com with local (Exim 2.05 #1) id 107rTu-0000QV-00 for utahoutdoors-goout@lists.xmission.com; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 18:51:54 -0700 Received: from [207.170.238.10] (helo=lasal.net) by lists.xmission.com with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 107rTs-0000QO-00 for utahoutdoors@lists.xmission.com; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 18:51:52 -0700 Received: from lasal.net [207.170.238.113] by lasal.net with ESMTP (SMTPD32-4.06) id ACFF1BA3012C; Tue, 02 Feb 1999 18:57:19 MST7MDT Message-ID: <36B7ABAB.95EF3031@lasal.net> Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 18:51:40 -0700 From: Lou & Jim Gostlin Organization: Fabrics, etc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: utahoutdoors@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [OUTDOORS] Backpacking References: <918003777.16281.412@excite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-utahoutdoors@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: utahoutdoors@lists.xmission.com Hi T.L.! Arches National Park is my very favorite National Park--and I have been to a lot of them! However, there really is not any real good backpacking in that park. The longest regular hike is about 7 miles (it IS a great hike, though). You are not supposed to camp outside the park campground. It is a beautiful campground, but still it is a regular campground, solar power & all. the arches is only about 4 miles from here. Canyonlands is very close by & has some great back country. Canyonlands also has many arches. My choice backpacking trips would be to Angel Arch, Druid Arch or to the "All American Man" (pictograph). You can call 1-800-635-6622 and they will send you TONS of info on the area. In addition to that, we have an information center here in Moab that is really great about helping you plan your trip. I just moved here from Columbus, Ohio (GO BUCKS!) last summer. My daughter & I (a grad student at O.S.U.) and I back packed to Keet Seel in Navajo National Monument. We thought it was great! Navajo N.M. is in northeast Arizona not too far from Kayenta on the Navajo reservation (the big rez). If you go to Zion and want to backpack to avoid the crowds, you would want to concentrate on the northern section of the park--the Kolob section. I haven't been there, but I hear it is nice. "The Narrows" is the most common place to go on a long hike, but can get pretty crowded. Due to the danger of "flash floods" you can not hike the narrows if there is threat of rain because it is a slot canyon. Southeast Utah gets my vote. When we moved here, it is because we'd been to 49 states & southeast Utah is where we liked the best. I still do. Many days I feel like I am living in Mecca. Are you familiar with Edward Abbey & either DESERT SOLITAIRE or the MONKEYWRENCH GANG? This is Abbey country. Does this help? Moab has a web site, but I am not sure what the address is. I think all of the national parks do too. I can get phone numbers for you if you'd like. If I can answer any more questions, let me know. Lou T.L. Phillips wrote: > I am a college student from Michigan, and for my spring break I would like > to goto a national park in Utah. I want to goto a warmer and different > enviroment than I am use to. I was thinking about Arches and Zion but I am > not finding much about any lengthy trails. If any one can help me please > do. > > _______________________________________________________ > Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ > > - - - - --------------F417F3795232AFCCC8421598-- - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 12:32:54 -0700 (MST) From: David Kenison Subject: [OUTDOORS] Coyote Gulch and kayaking Powell This message bounced... anyone have info on this question? - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 08:41:47 -0700 From: Kevin Dickerson Reply-To: ucsar@utah.uswest.net To: utahoutdoors@lists.xmission.com Subject: Coyote Gulch and kayaking Powell We have a trip planned the end of June that I could use some advice on. We are going to hike Coyote Gulch all the way into Lake Powell. At Powell, we are going to try and have boats meet us with a kayak for each of us to paddle back to Bullfrog. Anyone have any experience doing something like this that could offer some advice? How about anywhere in Utah where we can rent Sea Kayaks (or any kayaks as far as that's concerned)? Thanks, Kevin Dickerson ucsar@utah.uswest.net Pleasant Grove - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 13:53:45 -0700 From: Steve Cutler Subject: RE: [OUTDOORS] Backpacking T.L., My wife and I are natives of Utah and have spent a few spring breaks in the Arches area. Moab is a great little tourist town with a miriad of things to do just a few miles away. They've got great food and gift shops. Just outside of Moab is the famed Slickrock bike trail. We always run into people not only from all over the country, but also from all over the world when riding that trail. It is a beautiful trail unlike any in the world I am told by many foreigners. There's a 2-mile practice loop for the novice biker, or for a great warm up for the big daddy. Moab has everything you need to get set up for a good bike ride including bike rentals, repair gear, maps, and other bike gear. If you're into climbing there are some good climbs in the area as well. The soft sandstone is not for the novice, but there are a few low rated sport climbs, and a great top rope area. The area has many classic traditional climbs. Protection ranges from the very small to the big dudes. Again Moab has everything you need for climbing too. There are a couple of good climbing shops in town where you can stock up on any extra gear you need, and luckily the price for the local guidebook is really low (I think it's still only 5-6 dollars)! Arches National park is about 10 miles out of Moab with great scenery and some good hiking. It's not much for the serious backpacker, but it does provide beautiful scenery unlike anywhere in the world. Another atraction to the Moab area is the Colorado River. Depending on what kind of a budget you are on you may be able to afford a day or two trip down the river. We have been down stretches of that river 4 or 5 times and I never get tired of it. A great company to go with if you decide to is World Wide River Expeditions. The owner is a friend of my Dad's. His name is Richard Jones. Not too long ago he built a one man row boat and set out to row across the ocean. He's quite the man. The only downfall with the Moab\Arches area is the crowds during spring break. I've never been to Zions over spring break, so I don't know what kind of crowds you are going to run into, but I do know you will run into crowds in Moab and Arches. Hope you have a great stay in Utah. It's a great state! Steve Cutler - -----Original Message----- From: T.L. Phillips [mailto:tazlee1@excite.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 1999 6:03 PM To: utahoutdoors@xmission.com Subject: [OUTDOORS] Backpacking I am a college student from Michigan, and for my spring break I would like to goto a national park in Utah. I want to goto a warmer and different enviroment than I am use to. I was thinking about Arches and Zion but I am not finding much about any lengthy trails. If any one can help me please do. _______________________________________________________ Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ - - - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 14:11:31 -0700 From: Jeff Porcaro Subject: RE: [OUTDOORS] Backpacking There are some trail descriptions located on the GearReview.com web site in the destinations area. Some of these descriptions are in the southern Utah area and are great trails. The site also has a contest for entering trail or gear descriptions on the site. The prize is a Eureka! Apollo II internal-frame backpack. Jeff Porcaro - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 15:42:28 -0500 From: "Christensen, Robert D" Subject: RE: [OUTDOORS] Coyote Gulch and kayaking Powell Kevin: I've kayaked on the lake once before in the fall (low boat traffic). We rented some sea kayaks from the outdoors department/shop at BYU. They were a sea kayak design, but the sit on top type, with no spray skirt or rudder. However, the hatch could hold a lot of gear, more than a full backpack load. Robert Christensen rchristensen@kpmg.com > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 08:41:47 -0700 > From: Kevin Dickerson > Reply-To: ucsar@utah.uswest.net > To: utahoutdoors@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Coyote Gulch and kayaking Powell > > We have a trip planned the end of June that I could use some advice > on. We are going to hike Coyote Gulch all the way into Lake Powell. > At Powell, we are going to try and have boats meet us with a kayak for > each of us to paddle back to Bullfrog. > Anyone have any experience doing something like this that could > offer > some advice? How about anywhere in Utah where we can rent Sea Kayaks > (or any kayaks as far as that's concerned)? > Thanks, > Kevin Dickerson ucsar@utah.uswest.net > Pleasant Grove > > > > - - - ------------------------------ End of utahoutdoors-digest V2 #107 **********************************