From: owner-yello-digest@lists.xmission.com (yello-digest) To: yello-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: yello-digest V2 #77 Reply-To: yello-digest Sender: owner-yello-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-yello-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes yello-digest Thursday, October 8 1998 Volume 02 : Number 077 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1998 22:55:04 +0100 From: "Jonas Warstad" Subject: (yello) Yello book: the quotes dilemma I'd like to hear your opinions on using quotes in my (fortcoming) book on Yello. I have collected lots and lots of quotes from various sources and I have them all stored chronologically in my computer. Now, shall I use them or not? On one hand they're subject to copyright etc etc, and it may look "cheap" and "lazy" to use them in a commercial book, but on the other hand they often provide and interesting insight from that time and what good do they do in my computer? I have interviewed Boris about all the tracks etc, but I have yet to meet Dieter, and with his busy and unpredictable schedule I sincerely doubt that I will ever have a chance of interviewing him in person (no he doesn't have email) and the point is, Dieter is usually the one who did all their interviews. Right now I'm working on 1981, and I have to admit that including a few well chosen quotes here and there from 1981 looks much better that not including them. If anyone out there has any knowledge of using quotes from other people's interviews - the legal copyright stuff let me know, OK? Note that I only intend to use direct speech quotes from Dieter and Boris, never anything that was written by the interviewer himself. The tricky question is who owns the rights to what Dieter and Boris said - themselves or the interviewer who cought their words on tape? Someone in Zurich suggested that Yello themselves own the rights to their own words in interviews. Is it enough to mention [in brackets] after the quote where it's from (magazine and date) or do I have to get a personal approval from the person who did the interview (not an easy task!) Best, JW # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info yello" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email yello@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Yello discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?yello ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 08:51:22 GMT From: "Andy Jackson" Subject: Re: (yello) BT and cd-rom > > I'm a big fan of BT too - luscious depth to the sounds and > > production, just like Yello. 'Divinity' is my favorite track of > > 'Ima' - the building piano roll is epic stuff! Also love 'Remember' > > from the 'ESCM' LP. Check him out - he's a genius! > > I would'nt go that far. It's dancy and good production. Musically its > infantile compared to Boris. Don't get me wrong I own it but listen to it > very rarely. No, I'm sorry - 'infantile' just won't do! I don't think we're comparing BT to Yello. Yello aren't in the same ball park as BT (and many others) when it comes to writing for the dancefloor. It's simply not where they're coming from. 'Pocket Universe' is OK but it's stuck between what Yello is good at (their established stylistic approach) and what Yello is maybe not so good at (out-and-out dance music). I listen Yello for different reasons from those which make me listen to BT - there aren't too many areas where they speak the same language, but both do what they do extremely well. Just my two groatsworth! Andy Jackson : a n d r e w * j a c k s o n : : l i b r a r i a n : : s c h o o l * o f * n u r s i n g * a n d * m i d w i f e r y : : u n i v e r s i t y * o f * d u n d e e : : d u n d e e * d d 1 * 9 s y : : t e l * 0 1 3 8 2 * 6 3 2 0 1 2 : # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info yello" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email yello@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Yello discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?yello ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 14:08:57 +0000 From: Nathan Lloyd Subject: RE: (yello) BT [Nathan Lloyd] Andy I think your absolutely spot on when you say that BT and Yello are =20 incomparable=2E Yello are superb at what they do and BT are probably very=20= =20 good at what they do=2E I am not a big fan of BT's genre of music=2E To m= e =20 it is very monotous and I do not enjoy there type of music at all=2E=2E=2E=2E=2E My sixpenth worth=2E=2E=2E=2E Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info yello" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email yello@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Yello discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?yello ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 19:14:38 +0200 From: georg plank Subject: (yello) RE: Yello book: the quotes dilemma Hi Jonas ! I am working myself on a final exam (but not on Yello). Therefore I have to use lot of quotes out from different sources s.a. film dialogues, interviews from TV&radio and also from books and magazines. The copyright is always on the side of the person who has expressed a thought. Even if the thought is written in a newspaper the right belongs to the interviewed person. An example: If you are are not willing to have your statement written in the newspaper you have the right to forbid that. Even if the reporter want to have this statement in his article he has to ask for a permisson. All the other things written in books, biblographies or reported on TV have the copyright of the journalist or author. In scientific works you are allowed to use quotes, but only in the correct sense. So you have to use complete sentences and you have to watch that you only use qoutes that do not missinterpretate the meaning of the original text. But most important at all is to write downt the exact source to the quote. The best thing would be to make a list at the end of the book with all the sources you have used. If you do these things correctly, there might be no problem in using quotes. Yours, G E O R G # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info yello" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email yello@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Yello discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?yello ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 19:20:41 EDT From: JULZMON@aol.com Subject: Re: (yello) BT and cd-rom In a message dated 10/5/98 5:47:15 AM Eastern Daylight Time, a.z.jackson@dundee.ac.uk writes: > No, I'm sorry - 'infantile' just won't do! I don't think we're > comparing BT to Yello. Yello aren't in the same ball park as BT (and > many others) when it comes to writing for the dancefloor. It's simply > not where they're coming from. 'Pocket Universe' is OK but it's stuck > between what Yello is good at (their established stylistic approach) > and what Yello is maybe not so good at (out-and-out dance music). > I listen Yello for different reasons from those which make me listen > to BT - there aren't too many areas where they speak the same > language, but both do what they do extremely well. Uhh yeah thats what i ment to say :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info yello" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email yello@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Yello discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?yello ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 06:07:52 +0100 From: "Jonas Warstad" Subject: (yello) Quotes and I Love You single Thanks George, if what you say is correct then it's the best news I've heard for a long time! Change of subject: A non-Net German Yello collector told a friend of mine that the Dutch and the German I Love You single didn't have the same version of the A-side. I don't have both so I can't compare (they have the same cat no). I've never heard of that! Anyone? JW # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info yello" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email yello@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Yello discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?yello ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 06:08:05 +0100 From: "Jonas Warstad" Subject: (yello) More quotes If anyone out there has a good collection of Yello interviews and articles, please email me privately and I'll send you a list of what I have and maybe we can do a trade. This is, of course, for the book, and the more material I have, the more interesting it will be. I already have lots of them, but I'm sure there's something I missed. I'm only interested in English ones (too much trouble to translate them otherwise) and only interviews, not reviews. Thanks. JW # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info yello" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email yello@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Yello discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?yello ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 16:10:35 +0300 From: "Oleg Yanshin" Subject: (yello) Yello Chat Room > Hi everyone!! Hello ! > > What do all you Yello fans think of the idea of a Yello chat room? This is a great idea ! - -------------------------------------------------------------------- FIDO 2:5061/15.25 ICQ 5775660 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info yello" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email yello@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Yello discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?yello ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Oct 98 10:08:59 EDT From: "Ray A. Carmen" Subject: (yello) yello videos Hi folks, This is the first time I've posted to this list. The reason is because someone emailed me a while back to ask if I could dub a copy of Yello's videos for them. This was right before I got married and got moved into my new place, so I lost the person's name and email address. If I talked to anyone on this list about this, please get in touch with me. My sincere apologies. Thanks! Ray Carmen popprod@hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info yello" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email yello@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Yello discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?yello ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 14:42:07 +0200 From: "Stefan Vallbracht" Subject: (yello) Yello Chat Room Hi, do you mean a "chat", or a WebPage with Comments ? The first would mean a real-time chat - if anybody is in there you can talk with him. If even not, you have to wait, perhaps for hours :-) This is possible with IRC but also on a web-site. The second would mean something like all this e-mail on one page. Everybody can read alle the e-mails. For me would be an IRC-Channel enough !-) AIRMAN Stefan Vallbracht __________________________ / /\ \_____________________| / /_|\ \ | |_| |\ /| |_| |\| / /|_| \_\| | \ | | | | | | | / / Art & Audio /_/ music,spots,html,multimedia _________________________________ email: post@airman.de web: http://www.airman.de Fon: 0177 3 13 83 00 mail2handy: sms@airman.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info yello" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email yello@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Yello discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?yello ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998 09:25:54 -0500 From: Duane Subject: (yello) Chat room A chat room can be set up easily with Xoom. Here's an example. You can register with them and set one up for free on a personal homepage. http://www.bead.net/beadchat.htm Duane. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info yello" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email yello@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Yello discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?yello ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 15:46:44 +0100 From: James.Gillett@iceland.co.uk Subject: (yello) Yello Chat Room Best thing to do is to arrange a date & time for list members to go on-line. Perhaps do this well in advance so there's opportunity for lots of fans to know about it in time. In terms of having a free web-page to post comments - I suppose the list already accomodates for that, - a chat-room however, would give more immeadiate answers to urgent questions. James # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info yello" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email yello@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Yello discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?yello ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 18:56:59 +0000 From: dannybj@globalnet.co.uk Subject: Re: (yello) Yello Chat Room Yes It is a great idea to talk to other Yello fans... I think the best way is to use IRC Chat , its a simple but effective way to talk. Use something like #yello , channel .. Or try Internet Phone5 from vocal tec , we could to other in real time then using microphones if you have got one. Hope we can all meet...soon... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info yello" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email yello@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Yello discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?yello ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 19:55:21 EDT From: FGriego@aol.com Subject: Re: (yello) Yello Chat Room There's another possibility that a friend has been trying to get me to hook up. Anyone with knowledge of this let me know. http://www.icq.com/ Fred # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info yello" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email yello@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Yello discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?yello ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 03:15:52 +0200 From: David John Subject: Re: (yello) Yello Chat Room A chat room sounds like an excellent idea. It could be great to meet all you folks realtime. At 01:55 07-10-98 , FGriego@aol.com wrote: > >There's another possibility that a friend has been trying to get me to hook >up. Anyone with knowledge of this let me know. > >http://www.icq.com/ > >Fred I'm not too excited about this new ICQ-phenomena. It seems to me that the program performs a lot of 'hidden' things on my connection. A friend of mine talked me into trying it. But I quickly talked myself out of it. The security seems a bit... ehm low. Quite a few hackerpages describes how easy ICQ is to break in on. Anyway, besides the paranoia, I just like to keep my Internet apps as simple as possible. So why not take advantage of one of the many web-based solutions? Cheers, David John http://www.paper.dk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info yello" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email yello@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Yello discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?yello ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 14:14:12 -0700 From: Travis Schneider Subject: (yello) argh I'm on a quest of sorts - once upon a time about 10 years ago, I was standing in the local music store with $20 ni my pocket - Should I buy Yello's Flag CD or The Race? I bought Flag. Later on, I came back with more cash, but the Cd was gone. I had to put up with a cassette copy of The Race. Now, ten years later, I'm trying to track down a CD copy of The Race (U.S. import). It had 3 mixes of The Race, and I think a few variations of Oh Yeah... The fabled "After The Race" is on here as well. Anyone who has seen it/would sell their CD/knows a good online import store/any other valuable info/ would be most appreciated. - -Trav! Oh, the cassette? Snapped after playing it over and over a few hundred times. - ------------------------------- On the fast lane of the street I'm driving Sometimes, somewhere, I'm arriving Every day and every night -Yello, The Race # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info yello" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email yello@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Yello discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?yello ------------------------------ End of yello-digest V2 #77 **************************