From: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (Zorn List Digest) To: zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: Zorn List Digest V2 #258 Reply-To: zorn-list Sender: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Zorn List Digest Thursday, March 12 1998 Volume 02 : Number 258 In this issue: - cool shit Re: Uz Jsme Doma Re: cool shit KF 2 Muworks, Improvised Music 1981 Re: EVIL SKA?!? WUNH Durham 91.3fm Jazz/Modern reports March 9, 1998 Re: cool shit Bill Frisell discography (message from POLAND) Goode/Cd sale Half Japanese masada Ornette unknown cd sale EVIL SKA, and movie trivia Big Gundown Re: Big Gundown New Masada output Re[2]: Big Gundown Re: Big Gundown More Great Jewish Music ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 04:53:29 EST From: FUNKADELlC Subject: cool shit hey.. im just droppin a tip... but the first album by the Blue Meanies is full of EVIL SKA and klezmer... and their new album is full of EVIL SKA and blast beats .... cool shite.. - -cory sklar - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 09:14:17 -0500 From: Perfect Sound Forever Subject: Re: Uz Jsme Doma > On Mon, 9 Mar 1998 01:37:34 -0500 (EST), ia zha nah er vesen sed: > > Thanks to all (patrice) who recomended 'too close to the pole'...what a > brilliant album. It reminds me, in spots, of this other band, a 'czech > puck opera jazz' band called Uz Jsme Doma. Has anyone else heard them? > > I'd very much recomend them to all out there...they're very much a rock > band, but they're very tight, and their sound tends towards the > sort of frantic virtuosity which the title track of 'too close to the > pole' has going. Lineup: drums, keys, guitars, bass, sax, basoon, other > wind instruments, and they all sing, as well. Neat-o. > These guys are great. HOLLYWOOD is one of my favorite CD's from the last couple of years. It's loud, funny, weird and really compelling. They usually get lumped in Zappa and the Residents but in the end, they don't sound a lot like either. Check out this site for more info on them (yes, I admit there's a link to PSF there): http://www.zverina.com/alternatune/uzjsmedoma.html Jason - -- Perfect Sound Forever perfect-sound@furious.com http://www.furious.com/perfect - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 09:38:28 -0500 (EST) From: ia zha nah er vesen Subject: Re: cool shit > of EVIL SKA and klezmer... and their new album is full of EVIL SKA and blast ^^^^^^^^ vas ist das 'EVIL SKA'? - -jascha - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 09:28:38 -0500 From: Zeke's Subject: KF 2 - ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD4B3F.8338C300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Howdy! For those of you who might be making travel plans, the Knit is opening a = second location in Lake Charles, LA. Apparently it is supposed to open = in August. 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Its pretty interesting. I also saw it once at Kim's on Bleeker street in NYC. Never seen it since I should have bought it. e-mail me personally and Ill see what I can do. Rich rladew@hopper.unh.edu - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 09:39:10 -0700 From: dtapia@unoco.edu (Douglas Tapia) Subject: Re: EVIL SKA?!? >> of EVIL SKA and klezmer... and their new album is full of EVIL SKA and blast > ^^^^^^^^ > >vas ist das 'EVIL SKA'? > >-jascha > I don't know, but if it's in Bb and sounds like a bunch of Brits playing reggae too fast, count me in!!! SKA?!? Who's idea was this? BUT if it's EVIL SKA, I might be interested, thus I second: What is EVIL SKA? (Has to be cool if it's EVIL, eh?) Doug - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:33:36 -0500 (EST) From: Richard E Ladew Subject: WUNH Durham 91.3fm Jazz/Modern reports March 9, 1998 Jazz/Modern/PCP House Of Coffee WUNH Durham 91.3fm Rich Ladew, Director (603) 659-1732 Memorial Union Building (MUB) University of New Hampshire DURHAM NH 03824 Play is based on 2hrs Tuesday night (10pm-midnight (PCP House of Coffee), 3-4 hrs gen. programming, and approx. 1 hr general jazz play. (Artist) (Recording Title) (Label) 1. Bill Ware Vibes Knitting factory Works 2.William Hooker Great Sunset Warm-O-Brisk 3. Prajna Postmodernism Eclectic 4. Buckethead Colma Cyberoctave 5.MASADA TET DIW 6.Painkiller (4XCD BOX) Tzadik 7.Brad Shepik and the Commuters The Loan Songlines 8. David Slusser Daylight at the End of the Tunnel Tzadik 9.John Lindberg Ensemble Bounce Black Saint 10. John Zorn Angelus Novus Tzadik - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 15:19:12 EST From: FUNKADELlC Subject: Re: cool shit In a message dated 98-03-09 09:38:42 EST, you write: << > of EVIL SKA and klezmer... and their new album is full of EVIL SKA and blast ^^^^^^^^ vas ist das 'EVIL SKA'? -jascha >> C'MON!!!!.... this is just my way of saying "haunting sounding" ska music... i dunno... i guess it means more diminished or minor chords on the upbeat or sumthin... i.e. Speacials "ghost town" or early Oingo Boingo or sumpthin... the rest of you know what i mean when i say "EVIL SKA" .... i dunno how to explain it.. you guys help me out - -cory sklar - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 22:36:22 +0100 From: "Artur Nowak" Subject: Bill Frisell discography (message from POLAND) Dear Philozorners! If you like the music of Bill FRISELL, please visit my page dedicated to Bill with his (of course not) complete DISCOGRAPHY. The location is: http://www.silesia.top.pl/~arno/emd/pl40/artists/f/frisell_bill/default.htm Although my Frisell pages are only in polish right now, you can still browse the discography, because the discography itself is all in english. One more requirement: this site is made in HTML 4.0, especially Cascading Style Sheets, so you need MS Internet Explorer 4.0 in order to access it (until now Netscape is far behind this standard; just try to see it). Version for "old" browsers will be available... sometime. Please feel free to flame me! - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Artur Nowak (arno@silesia.top.pl) Licht und Liebe sich entzuenden - Wo sich Streng' und Milde finden. Zorn und Finsternis entbrennen - Wo sich Streng' und Milde trennen. - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 20:56:33 -0500 From: Tom Pratt Subject: Goode/Cd sale Has anybody checked out the new Tzadik release by Daniel Goode?? How is it? I had the choice between that and the Graves disc the other day and opted for the Graves so I'm wondering what I'm missing out on!! Also, I have some discs I'm looking to sell by Anthony Coleman, Elliott Sharp, Anderson/Crispell/Drake and Anthony Braxton. Let me know if you're interested and I'll give the full scoop. -Tom Pratt - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:48:13 +0100 (MEZ) From: BJOERN Subject: Half Japanese well can anyone tell me which of these HALF JAPANESE records is the best???? Fire in the sky (1992) Hot (1995) Charmed life (1988) Music to strip by (1987) The band who would be king (1989) answers please privately to me BJOERN - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:07:55 -0500 From: Alan E Kayser Subject: masada Did anyone out there get an FM recording of the Masada String Trio and/or the Andy Statman program? I have lots to trade. Alan - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 07:04:19 -0700 From: dennis summers Subject: Ornette Entering into the Ornette conversation late, I'd have to second Wilkie's rave of the Coleman/Izenson/Moffett trio, in fact this was my first exposure to Ornette in The Great London Concert which remains one of my faves. I've also noticed that no one has mentioned his recent two Sound Museum discs which I think have been a great "return" to form. However, I suppose that the original "poster" was asking where to start and we're offering far too many choices. I don't think that anyone will defend New York is Now or Love Call, which after years of searching, I got when rereleased on CD, and was hugely disappointed. Finally to Wilkie, I have Ornette at 12, if no one else has already responded contact me direct. ***Quantum Dance Works*** ****http://ic.net/~denniss**** - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:45:53 -0600 From: "Marc A. Foster" Subject: unknown cd sale Sorry to bother everyone with this, but I found a text file of a cd sale that I got from someone on this list- problem is, I can't remember who it's from or how old it is. I've included an excerpt from the file. If you recognize it as yours, please get in touch with me. I lost the email address that goes with the file. Marc Foster > OK, here's how the CD sale works: > > First come, first serve (I go by the order that the emails arrive in my > inbox). > > I have to get the money before I ship - In the 10 years that I've been > trading on the Internet, I've never been a "bad trader". If you send me the > money, I will send you the merchandise. I honor all commitments. If you > don't want to do it that way, sorry, but I'm not going to get burned. > > CDs with a * by them are reserved, but I haven't gotten the money or > shipped them yet. If you want something that's reserved, let me know and > I'll put you down for it . You might still be able to get it since > sometimes people don't always follow through and send the money for what > they've reserved. > - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:36:46 -0500 (EST) From: ia zha nah er vesen Subject: EVIL SKA, and movie trivia > << > of EVIL SKA and klezmer... and their new album is full of EVIL SKA and > blast > ^^^^^^^^ > > vas ist das 'EVIL SKA'? > C'MON!!!!.... this is just my way of saying "haunting sounding" ska music... i Aw, too bad...i thought this was a full-blown genre :) Perhaps, in time, it will be. I, myself, am looking for EVIL REGGAE or (better still) SINISTER DUB, although EVIL SKA has an alluring ring to it. Any suggestions? Question, re: EVIL REGGAE: the music which plays at the beginning of the film 'stepping razor: red X' about Peter Tosh is (in memory, at least) the most wonderfully psychedelic/slow-mo/sinister/lynchian reggae, and i don't think it's Peter Tosh, even though it's a movie about him. Does anyone know who dunnit? thanks, - -jascha - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 05:00:40 From: "Doug McKay" Subject: Big Gundown I finally got this today. First impression: Disappointment. Did anyone else have to grow into this album? I imagine I'll like it later, being that I like Zorn. I guess I just expected something that it isn't. It seems anemic to me. "Once Upon a Time in the West" is powerful in the movie. I don't feel that here at all. I'm reminded of how he emasculated "The Good the Bad and the Ugly" on the first Film Music album. Has Zorn ever done original film music for a Western? Right now I can't imagine he could pull it off for anyone who actually cared about the genre. Doug McKay Old West Society of Minnesota - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 23:49:35 +1100 From: "Julian" Subject: Re: Big Gundown > I finally got this today. First impression: Disappointment. Did anyone else > have to grow into this album? I imagine I'll like it later, being that I > like Zorn. I guess I just expected something that it isn't. It seems anemic > to me. "Once Upon a Time in the West" is powerful in the movie. I don't > feel that here at all. I'm reminded of how he emasculated "The Good the Bad > and the Ugly" on the first Film Music album. Yeah, I suppose expectations can ruin albums, even if they are genuinely good, as I think Big Gundown is. My expectations of Spy Vs Spy weren't exactly matched by what I got, but I've grown to like it (at least more than I did when I first heard it). My tip for the Big Gundown - don't listen as if it has to be something, it's really just Zorn playing around with the music, and if you read the liner notes, Zorn says something like how he didn't want to touch Morricone's music, it was too perfect already. I guess he's just having fun with it. By the way, does anyone know where "Milano Odea" comes from? - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 14:11:40 +0100 From: Martin Schmitz-Ohrndorf Subject: New Masada output I don't know, maybe this news is already known. There is a new Masada CD announced for Mar 17, 1998. It will be named "Circle Maker" and features Marc Ribot, Joey Baron, Cyro Babtista, Greg Cohen, Mark Feldman and Erik Friedlander. It'll contain 29 tracks from the MASADA songbook and I am sure it will be great. So this is really great news for all the fans around. I'm not sure about the label, as the tzadik homepage doesn't mention it. I hope it's not on DIW. Guess why! Information (track listing etc.) can be found at http://205.186.189.2/cg/AMG.exe?sql=A341776. Martin Schmitz-Ohrndorf ohrndorf@zippel.de - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:22:39 UT From: peter_risser@cinfin.com Subject: Re[2]: Big Gundown Big Gundown was one of the first Zorn albums I ever heard (after Naked City) and is still one of my all time favorites. Musically some of the stuff he does is really brilliant and, as usual, he's got a super group of players. I look at this like the Bacharach or Gainsbourg tributes, where there's a song idea and it's mutated, while still paying homage to the original. If you want the true Morricone (music and sound), you need to buy the soundtracks, cuz it doesn't sound much like the originals at all, from the stuff I could compare. Peter - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 14:48:07 +0100 From: Yves Dewulf Subject: Re: Big Gundown > I guess he's just having fun with it. By the way, does anyone know where > "Milano Odea" comes from? It must come from "Milano odia: la polizia non puo sparare", an Italian Crime-Movie by Umberto Lenzi (1974). US-titles: Almost Human The Kidnap of Mary Lou YVes - - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 21:20:59 UT From: peter_risser@cinfin.com Subject: More Great Jewish Music I was wondering who might be next in the Great Jewish Music cover album series. Neil Diamond? Sammi Davis, Jr.? But seriously, does anyone have a clue who might be next? I was sitting here secretly hoping that Raymond Scott was Jewish... Peter - - ------------------------------ End of Zorn List Digest V2 #258 ******************************* To unsubscribe from zorn-list-digest, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe zorn-list-digest" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. 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