From: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (Zorn List Digest) To: zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: Zorn List Digest V2 #338 Reply-To: zorn-list Sender: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Zorn List Digest Tuesday, April 21 1998 Volume 02 : Number 338 In this issue: - Re: Cecil Taylor questions Re: Cecil Taylor Re: Well, You Needn't Re: Re: Cecil Taylor Faxed Head Faith no more, no more---officially Re: Cecil Taylor Re: Faxed Head New York Crash Space DIW Releases [Fwd: Help Wanted] 4/26 Grn St:Yaun 4tet/Maneri 4tet/Maneri-Morris-Maneri faith no more breakup Re: Cecil Taylor ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 00:38:18 -0400 From: Steve Smith Subject: Re: Cecil Taylor questions Joseph S. Zitt wrote: > On Mon, 20 Apr 1998, Steve Smith wrote: > > [snip]I'm > > beginning to think "Musica Jazz" may be the most enlightened jazz publication on the > > planet. Anyone who can actually read the magazine care to voice an opinion of the > > editorial content? > > Wow -- is it possible to find copies of this magazine and its CDs? I'm not sure how to answer... I got the two issues I own from an Italian acquaintance on another list. So I'm not really sure how you would get this, short of that. But the Steve Lacy duets disc has been commerically released since the time the magazine offered it. Perhaps FMP will do the same with the Taylor? Steve - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 11:49:08 GMT0BST From: DR S WILKIE Subject: Re: Cecil Taylor While so many people are focused on this subject, can I ask for opinions about (?) In Fluorescense (?), on the same surprise A&M label as a couple of Sun Ra's from the late 80s Also: marilyn Crispell, Kitchen Concert and Gaia? Any good? (All of these are second hand in Cardiff Market at the moment, and I don't expect they're going anywhere else in a hurry, so I thought I'd take soundings before forking out.) PS can someone fill me in about Screwgun's Julius Hemphill release programme? - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 12:21:03 GMT0BST From: DR S WILKIE Subject: Re: Well, You Needn't As "Well, You Needn't" has been mentioned, I have to tell you folks, most of whom don't have the BBC spending your money, of the best version of this song since 1954. Billy Jenkins and the Voice Of the People (which is basically the same group as The Voice Of God Collective) had a spot on a brief series of jazz progs here and, after two numbers (Greenwich One Way System and Close To You - he's been doing the latter for a few years; ie before the bacharach revival started) he finished the set with a short version of Well, You Needn't, telling the audience that they'd put lyrics to it, and that they could sing along: so it goes Da-da da-da daa da-da da-daa, Billy exorts the audience to shout "Bastard!", Da-da da-da daa da-da da-duh, "bastard!", etc. What I especially liked was that the word would fit in perfectly with the tune, but that getting the crowd to shout it out slightly stretched the space between the phrases, giving it a stop-start feel. They just played the theme once (Ballamy started a second round but Billy stopped him, either pre-arranged for humour, or due to time-constraints, I don't know?). Has anybody heard Jenkins? He's a great performer - and his shows are clearly designed for entertainment (which I'm utterly in favour of) but he's also, in my opinion, a very interesting, talented, and quite unique guitar player. I haven't heard any of his big fight records or concerts, but I rather like the idea: two free improvisers, in the ring, rounds of three minutes of "fighting" stopped by the bell. This dates back to the 80s, I believe. Did Zorn and Previte steal it for Euclid's Nightmare? Sean Wilkie Unrelated PS Miniature: will we ever see their likes again? - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 09:34:54 EDT From: Sulacco Subject: Re: Re: Cecil Taylor the only one i can offered an opinion on is In Flourescence. this record rules. it was actually my introduction to cecil, so you can tell i'm a relative newbie. the playing on it is, IMHO, inspired and i REALLY dig the little spoken poetry bits on some of the songs. buy this one at any cost! - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 09:05:14 -0400 From: "Simon Thibaudeau" Subject: Faxed Head Does any of you have ever heard anything from Faxed Head? What are they all about? Does the band still exist? I read Trey Spruance talk about them in an interview and can't find anything on them execpt that they were, aparently, on Amarillo records. Anyone? Simon Thibaudeau Personal: simon.thibaudeau@ift.ulaval.ca Mindspell: aag017@agora.ulaval.ca (418)658-6150 http://mindspell.home.ml.org http://mindspellzine.home.ml.org Mindspell "paper" 'zine out now! featuring: Devin Townsend, Sadus, Brutal Truth, Raison D'être, Solar Spine and more.... Send 2$ US and Canada 3$ World to: Mindspell c/o Simon Thibaudeau 112 Ste-Marie Panet G0R 2J0 Canada "..and so this style of expression will depend largely on representation by sounds and gesture.." - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 09:52:01 -0400 From: "Simon Thibaudeau" Subject: Faith no more, no more---officially Faith No More have broken up, and this time it does not seem to be a rumour. Here is a copy of press release that is currently going out: "After 15 long and fruitful years, Faith No More have decided to put an end to speculation regarding their imminent break up... by breaking up. The decision among the members is mutual, and there will be no pointing of fingers, no naming of names, other than stating, for the record, that "Puffy started it". Furthermore, the split will now enable each member to pursue his individual project(s) unhindered. Lastly, and most importantly, the band would like to thank all of those fans and associates that have stuck with and supported the band Billy Gould (the bassist) has added this personal remark: I personally would like to thank all of you folks who've done such a fantastic job in keeping us alive, and growing with us through our changes, but especially in helping make our band available to people through the internet, because I'm absolutely convinced that without all of your help we would have been ignored (especially in the States). I would appreciate it if someone could please post a copy of this on to alt.music.faith-no-more. Seeee ya, Bill Written April 20 Simon Thibaudeau Personal: simon.thibaudeau@ift.ulaval.ca Mindspell: aag017@agora.ulaval.ca (418)658-6150 http://mindspell.home.ml.org http://mindspellzine.home.ml.org Mindspell "paper" 'zine out now! featuring: Devin Townsend, Sadus, Brutal Truth, Raison D'être, Solar Spine and more.... Send 2$ US and Canada 3$ World to: Mindspell c/o Simon Thibaudeau 112 Ste-Marie Panet G0R 2J0 Canada "..and so this style of expression will depend largely on representation by sounds and gesture.." - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 10:24:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Ken Waxman Subject: Re: Cecil Taylor "Blue Delight" (on A&M) is a fine Ra release from 1989 with a 21 piece band, including regulars like Marshall Allen, John Gilmore and Ahmed Abdullah and a few ringers, including two guitarists and two drummesr, one of whom is Billy Higgins. And you haven't lived until you've heard the Arkestra's version of "Days of Wine and Roses". Ken Waxman cj649@torfree.net On Tue, 21 Apr 1998, DR S WILKIE wrote: > While so many people are focused on this subject, can I ask for > opinions about (?) In Fluorescense (?), on the same surprise A&M > label as a couple of Sun Ra's from the late 80s > Also: marilyn Crispell, Kitchen Concert and Gaia? Any good? > (All of these are second hand in Cardiff Market at the moment, and I > don't expect they're going anywhere else in a hurry, so I thought I'd > take soundings before forking out.) > > PS can someone fill me in about Screwgun's Julius Hemphill release > programme? > > - > > - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 00:49:21 +1000 From: "Julian" Subject: Re: Faxed Head > Does any of you have ever heard anything from Faxed Head? What are they all > about? Does the band still exist? I read Trey Spruance talk about them in an > interview and can't find anything on them execpt that they were, aparently, > on Amarillo records. Fake heavy metal/noise band where they pretend all the members are failed suicide attempts. Trey plays guitar as "Neck Head", a guy with no head, just a big neck. The lead singer is I believe Gregg Turkington aka Neil Hamburger aka the head of Amarillo aka "McPatrick Head", a guy with a plaid skin graft. The others are similarly deformed and named. There's guitar, bass, drums, vocals and electronics, so there's enough experimental noise to piss off real heavy metal fans in the audience. Some of the songs are genuinely good, but the recording quality is (purposely) pretty bad. I saw them live and they covered "Spiderwebs" by No Doubt which was pretty funny. Generally better live than on CD. - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 14:43:41 -0400 (EDT) From: ia zha nah er vesen Subject: New York Crash Space Hi, i live in Canada, i want to go down to NYC at the end of this month to hear Masada play the Knit, and i want to bring four or five friends with me. Do any of you have suggestions for REALLY CHEAP places to sleep (besides, that is, Central Park)? - -jascha - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 13:53:41 -0500 From: Dan Hewins Subject: DIW Releases Maybe someone can help me figure this out. I'm listening to the John Patton new one out on DIW and I'm wondering why it's been released on DIW. It was recorded in NYC and it seems to be an "American" album (whatever that means). I wonder why someone decided to put it out on DIW. Could it be that John Patton has a contract with DIW? If so, then duh, there's my answer; if not, why? Same goes with the Greg Cohen disc. On a similar note: What makes one decide whether to release something on Tzadik or Avant? To make things more/less accesible for Japanese/Americans? Dan - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 06:29:55 -0300 From: Gabriel Lichtmann Subject: [Fwd: Help Wanted] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------E963F4A7B37A7670EB61F3A4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit - --------------E963F4A7B37A7670EB61F3A4 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: rizzi@netcom.com Received: from netcom9.netcom.com (rizzi@netcom9.netcom.com [192.100.81.119]) by serverw.bancaria.com.ar (8.7.6/SCO5) with ESMTP id SAA11199 for ; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 18:11:50 GMT Received: (from rizzi@localhost) by netcom9.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id LAA16773 for licht@bancaria.com.ar; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 11:06:49 -0700 (PDT) From: "m. rizzi" Message-Id: <199804211806.LAA16773@netcom9.netcom.com> Subject: Re: Help Wanted To: licht@bancaria.com.ar (Gabriel Lichtmann) Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 11:06:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <35385E46.8C09269B@bancaria.com.ar> from "Gabriel Lichtmann" at Apr 18, 98 05:03:18 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gabriel Lichtmann, demi-God and Icon sez: > >I need to contact Mr. Z. to ask him for the rights of some of his >compositions for a short film I'm about to make =BFdoes anybody know whe= re >can I find him besides the Tzadik Website? Thanks. You can try writing the Tzadik postal address. mike p.s. This message did not go to the members of the zorn-list because it was sent to the address owner-zorn-list-digest@xmission.com instead of=20 zorn-list@xmission.com where messages sent to fellow list members should be addressed.=20 Thanks, mike rizzi zorn-list owner - --=20 rizzi@netcom.com -------------------------------------- www.browbeat.com "Another nerd with a soulpatch"=20 - -------- browbeat magazine, po box 11124, oakland, ca 94611-1124 ------- - --------------E963F4A7B37A7670EB61F3A4-- - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 17:09:49 EDT From: JoLaMaSoul Subject: 4/26 Grn St:Yaun 4tet/Maneri 4tet/Maneri-Morris-Maneri HELLDORADO PRESENTS THE KEITH YAUN QUINTET, THE JOE MANERI QUARTET, AND MANERI-MORRIS- MANERI TRIO ON SUNDAY APRIL 26, AT THE GREEN STREET GRILL, 280 GREEN STREET, CENTRAL SQUARE, CAMBRIDGE, MA. ______________________________________ "Joe Maneri is one of the most important musicians in the history of free jazz" Harvey Pekar, Village Voice "Bostonian guitarist Joe Morris is perhaps the most exciting and original jazz plucker to emerge in the last decade." John Corbett, Down Beat ______________________________________ Helldorado is proud to present the debut of The Keith Yaun Quintet, along with sets by The Joe Maneri Quartet and The Maneri-Morris-Maneri Trio. Doors open at 9pm, with the first set (Maneri-Morris-Maneri) occuring at 9:30pm. The Green Street Grill, 280 Green Street, Central Square, Cambridge, MA, 02139. Tickets are $6. For more information, contact Billy: malamond@world.std.com, or Jonathan: JoLaMaSoul@aol.com, or call the club at 617-876-1655. Headlining the evening at 11:30 pm in their Green Street Grill debut will be The Keith Yaun Quintet. ThisBoston-based quintet consists of Yaun on guitar, Mat Maneri (ECM, HatArt, Leo-Lab) on electric viola, Nathan Cook (Accurate Records) on tenor saxophone, John Lockwood (ECM, Soul Note) on bass and John McLellan (Accurate Records) on drums. Each member with his own inventive style plays an integral part in incorporating contemporary harmonic and melodic motifs to the traditional setting of a jazz quintet. The group has recently completed an album’s worth of material comprised entirely of compositions by group members, the sound of which has been described as a cross between 20th century classical and hard-swinging jazz. At 10:30 pm, the Joe Maneri Quartet will treat the audience to another wonderful Green Street performance. The 70-year-old microtonal master and his quartet, featuring Joe on reeds, his son Mat on the six-string electric violin, John Lockwood on double-bass, and Randy Peterson on drums and percussion, has been making waves in the jazz community with their deeply emotional recordings, including the recent ECM release "In Full Cry". Bob Blumenthal, in a Boston Globe article, calls them "One of the most adventurous quartets anywhere." Not only is the group in amazing synchronicity with the compositions (incorporating the amazing 72-notes-per-octave microtonal system which the senior Maneri has been teaching at the New England Conservatory since the 1960's), but each player is a highly creative master of their own individual instrument. Opening the evenings show at 9:30 pm will be the amazing trio of Maneri- Morris-Maneri. For the last 20 years and over the course of 16 albums recorded since the early 80's, Joe Morris has been unfolding his truly singular guitar style. Reviews of Joe's work in the past few years have either stated directly or pointed to the fact that he is the guitar revolutionary to be listening and paying mind to today. 1997 was a prolific year of recording release dates for Morris; Black Saint brought forth the most recent recordings of the Joe Morris Quartet; HatArt dealt the unprecedented duo with Matthew Shipp, and No More Records released a very fine live duo with William Parker. In November of '97, the remarkable Joe Morris Trio released the disc "Antennae" (Aum Fidelity). 1996 saw the release of three very different albums: a beautiful solo disc on Leo, an Ensemble date on Homestead recorded with Matthew Shipp, William Parker and Whit Dickey, and finally, a collective trio with the father/son team of Joe/Mat Maneri on ECM, entitled "Three Men Walking". This trio is not to be missed! - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 14:22:38 PDT From: "Jack Torrance" Subject: faith no more breakup For those interested here's an article which talks aboit fnm's breakup and some upcoming side projects- "After fifteen long years and at least one hit song (1989's "Epic"), Bay Area heavy-metal-funksters Faith No More have decided to throw in the towel, pack it up, call it a day, stop playing music together. A statement faxed to muzic.com global headquarters in San Francisco made official what we've already been reporting for some time now: "Faith No More have decided to put an end to speculation regarding their imminent demise by . . . breaking up. The decision among the members is mutual and there will be no pointing of fingers, no naming of names, other than stating, for the record, that, Puffy started it." The Puffy in question isn't Sean Combs of Bad Boy infamy but rather FNM drummer Mike "Puffy" Bordin, whose decision to commit to skinsbeating for Ozzy Osbourne's Ozz Fest gigs this summer rather than a planned Faith tour of Europe is said to have been a major point of friction within the band. As the release states, speculation about the band's dissolution was rampant, and may have played an ironic role in making things final. FNM were reportedly distressed about a San Francisco Chronicle story last week that all but nailed their coffin shut for them. In any case and whatever the cause, things are kaput, and the boys of Faith No More are finally free to devote all their energy to their respective side projects. Keyboardist Roddy Bottum will resume his role as guitarist and songwriter for San Francisco's critical sweethearts, Imperial Teen (whose new record, What Is Not To Love? should be in stores later this summer), while singer Mike Patton (who replaced original FNM vocalist Chuck Mosley in 1988) will continue playing, recording and gigging with the likes of Mr.Bungle and that artsy-fartsy John Zorn guy. Furthermore, this June 18 at Slim's in San Francisco, Patton will debut his latest ensemble, Phantomas. Featuring Patton alongside ex-Slayer drummer Dave Lombardo, Mr.Bungle's Trevor Dunn and The Melvins' Buzz Osbourne, Phantomas had originally decided to call themselves Diabolik, but later rejected their own moniker because it wasn't that cool."Greg Heller Jack (who must like artsy-farsty music according to this well informed music journalist) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 20:20:31 -0400 From: Steve Smith Subject: Re: Cecil Taylor DR S WILKIE wrote: > While so many people are focused on this subject, can I ask for > opinions about (?) In Fluorescense (?), on the same surprise A&M > label as a couple of Sun Ra's from the late 80s Very well recorded, nice integration of poetry and music. It lives or dies on what you think of Bendian... I know plenty of people who just hate it for that reason alone, but I'm not one of them. If it's cheap you should probably grab it... a Cecil record on a major label is bound to be a rare curiosity for the ages. > PS can someone fill me in about Screwgun's Julius Hemphill release > programme? Right now it's just a straight reissue of the rare album "Blue Boy=E9" which Tim helped Julius self-release in the '80s. Down the line there's talk of digging into a wealth of live material from the early days of the B.A.G. that Baikida Carroll's been sitting on for years, he seems to have been that scene's primary archivist. Early Hemphill and Lake and so on. Steve Smith ssmith36@sprynet.com - - ------------------------------ End of Zorn List Digest V2 #338 ******************************* To unsubscribe from zorn-list-digest, send an email to "majordomo@lists.xmission.com" with "unsubscribe zorn-list-digest" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. 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