From: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (Zorn List Digest) To: zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: Zorn List Digest V2 #372 Reply-To: zorn-list Sender: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Zorn List Digest Monday, May 18 1998 Volume 02 : Number 372 In this issue: - Re: Why, why? Re: Why Zorn? gerry hemingway Dutch Music recommendations sought ZORN in Australia? Re: Dutch Music recommendations sought looking for... Re: Dutch Music recommendations sought New Zornian Releases for May and June [long] zorn-list ADMIN notice "JUST SO HAPPENS" - Gary PEACOCK ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 23:03:48 +0000 From: Dan Kuehn Subject: Re: Why, why? I sent a copy of the mail I posted here concerning trouble with the knitfact webcam to steve gratzer who forwarded it to... well, here: Hi Dan, Steve forwarded your email to me. >What gives? Politics? Technical problems? Legal beef? Artist beef? Yes. They all give. Essentially we're trying to work out a whole host of unexpected problems at the same time. I hope to have this all dealt with in 2 weeks. Thanks, Dave >Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 15:09:25 +0000 >From: Dan Kuehn >Reply-To: smokey@maui.net >MIME-Version: 1.0 >To: steve@knittingfactory.com >Subject: Why, why? >X-Priority: 3 (Normal) > >Hey, Steve, > >Can you tell me what's with the livecam at the Knitting Factory - ever since >John Zorn had it turned off, it REALLY got turned off. I check almost every >day and I've gotten various realaudio messages (the site doesn't exist, is not >available, etc.) or an NBC network feed or a blue screen or a black screen or >once very, breifly, picture but no sound. > >What gives? Politics? Technical problems? Legal beef? Artist beef? > >The livecam is certainly revolutionary, giving us free-thinking folks in the >outback a window into a world of new musiks formerly available only to those >able to bear life in the City, but isn't that a good thing? > >I just hope it's not gone forever. I expected that bastard Zorn would turn it >off for his precious improv nite tonite, but what about the clusone trio last >night? Never heard'em, probably never will... > >I for one have bought at least a dozen albums based on what i've caught on >that miserable little screen - > >At this point I don't even know what's wrong: >Kid has ice cream cone, kid loses ice cream cone, kid feels bad. > >As Nancy Kerrigan said so well, "Why, why?" > >Dan Dave Brenner CTO, KnitMedia 74 Leonard Street New York, NY 10013 http://www.knittingfactory.com http://www.tzadik.com http://www.jewmu.com - -- Dan Kuehn resident manager Kailua Maui Gardens SR1, Box 9 Haiku Maui Hawaii 96708 http://www.maui.net/~kmg/ - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 10:49:10 -0400 From: chasinthetrane@juno.com (Jamie F Graves) Subject: Re: Why Zorn? >For example, you might think that works of music with many interesting >qualities are necessarily good. (I'm pretty sure I think something like >this.) If your wife buys into this view, and you convince her that >Plunderphonics has many interesting qualities, she'd have to admit that >she's wrong. (But I don't recommend having that sort of discussion >too often with spouses 8^).) Hmm, I think you've hit the nail on the head here. It seems to me that admitting something is interesting in music does not necessarily mean someone will like it. From what I've read on this list, people here listen to Zorn and other experimental artists because they're interesting. Yanni devotees won't disagree with us on that, but they'll still listen to Yanni over Zorn because it goes down easier, and its a pleasure for them to listen to (same with easy listening). I have a few friends whose ideal music fits a very rigid definition, and while I've gotten a few to admit that Masada and Naked City are "interesting", they have never asked to borrow the CD's again. Just because someone realizes something is original doesn't mean they'll start listening to it on a regular basis, that is usually reserved for their four or five favorite CD's that they've been listening to forever. Nothing wrong with that, just a view of listening to music as a pure pleasure experience rather than an intellectual/pleasure one. At least that's why I listen to Zorn. Jamie _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 11:26:42 -0400 From: Alan E Kayser Subject: gerry hemingway The Gerry Hemingway Quartet, featuring Gerry, Ellery Eskelin, Mark Dresser, and Herb Robertson, will be performing in Philadelphia on Friday, May 22. This will take place at the Unitarian Church on Chestnut St between 21st and 22nd at 7:30 PM. For more details http://www.erols.com/aek1 - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 11:40:19 -0400 From: Brian Olewnick Subject: Dutch Music recommendations sought Just finished Kevin Whitehead's book, 'New Dutch Swing'. If you're at all interested in Dutch (and other European) new music developments over the last 40 years it's well worth checking out--very comprehensive with, if anything, an overabundance of detail and many interesting oral histories (I ordered it from Amazon.com). Refreshingly, Whitehead is pretty critical of a lot of the people he writes about; in fact, finding musicians or records he's unabashedly enthusiastic about is difficult. In any case, though I've heard much of the music of some of the (relatively) major figures he writes of (Breuker, Mengelberg, Bennink) and bits and pieces of others, Whitehead does provoke a lot of interest in other, less documented musicians. So, if anyone out there can recommend recordings by any of the following folk or groups, I'd be much obliged: Maarten Altena (I've heard some of the Hat Art stuff from the late 80's), Available Jelly, Ab Baars, Peter van Bergen, Michael Braam, Guus Janssen, Paul Termos and Wolter Wierbos. Thanks, Brian Olewnick - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 01:48:25 +1000 From: mstott@effect.net.au (Mark Stott) Subject: ZORN in Australia? Is there any substance to the rumour of Zorn coming to do shows in OZ? The embellished version includes PRAXIS as support, playing at The Sydney Opera House (?!). Any news at all please reply, cheers! - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 13:43:43 -0400 From: cdeupree@interagp.com (Caleb Deupree) Subject: Re: Dutch Music recommendations sought At 11:40 AM 5/17/98 -0400, Brian Olewnick wrote: >[...] Peter van Bergen [...] I have a very strange album by Loos, a quintet headed by van Bergen and also featuring Huib Emmer and Patricio Wang on electric guitar, Gerard Bouwhuis on piano, and Paul Koek on percussion, for which van Bergen wrote most of the music (_Fundamental_ on GeestGronden 10, probably still available from Cadence). Extremely abstract and pointillistic, an exercise in chords, silence, and improvisation. The CD comes with extensive and very technical liner notes. I like van Bergen's playing a lot, he gets a lot of strange growls and interesting noises from the sax and clarinets, but the pointillism is unique. I've heard van Bergen in other contexts, where he makes a distinctive contribution. He's a member of Altena's octet on at least a couple of the Hat disks, and I think he's on the FMP King Ubu orchestra cd as well. - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 15:07:30 -0400 From: Tom Pratt Subject: looking for... Hey! I'm trying to locate copies of two CD's that I'm having an absolutely impossible time finding. They are 'Impropositions' by Mats Gustafsson (1996 - Phono Suecia, PSCD 99) and 'Live At Fasching' by Gush (1996 - Dragon, DRCD 313). North Country doesn't have them and neither does Allegro (whom I believe carries both these labels?). They aren't at Forced Exposure or Wayside either. If anybody knows how I can find these titles (at a decent price) or if you see either in stock at your local stores and would be willing to pick them up for me (obviously I'd give you the money!), please let me know. Thanks! -Tom Pratt - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 18:11:11 -0400 From: Steve Smith Subject: Re: Dutch Music recommendations sought Brian Olewnick wrote: > ...Wolter Wierbos. Wolter is heard to great effect on the Gerry Hemingway discs "Special Detail," "Down to the Wire," "Demon Chaser," and "The Marmalade King," all on hat Art, as well as "Slamadam" and "Perfect World" on Random Acoustics. These might actually *all* be out of print officially speaking, but they still turn up here and there, and Gerry's got "Maramalade King" and the two Random Acoustics for sale on his website, which is at http://www.interactive.net/~gerryhem/ I like the Random Acoustics best, "Perfect World" most of all, but they're all pretty fine. Thanks for the book review. Steve Smith ssmith36@sprynet.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 03:43:54 -0400 From: Steve Smith Subject: New Zornian Releases for May and June [long] Hey kids: While I'm still reeling over that incredible list of gigs coming up at Tonic (talk about back to the good old days at 47 E. Houston! Bailey/Ibarra... yum!), I paid a visit to my *other* "old office" today, that being Koch. Here's the for-real skinny on Avant, Tzadik and other Zorn-related releases coming on May 19 and June 16. Get yer wallets ready, it's a gob and a half: All copy that follows is transcribed from Koch release books except where clearly noted. MAY 19, 1998 TZADIK Selfhaters: The Abysmal Richness of the Infinite Proximity of the Same TZA CD 7123 Radical Jewish Culture Anthony Coleman, Michael Attias, Fred Lonberg-Holm, Jim Pugliese, Doug Wieselman Jazz, classical, Klezmer and improvisational traditions blend and crash in Selfhaters, Anthony Coleman's most personal project. A disturbing and all-too-close peek into the very Jewish world of alienation and self-revulsion. Two long masterful compositions separated by a strange solo piece for voice and piano, The Abysmal Richness of the Infinite Proximity of the Same is one of Anthony's greatest creations. A CD that will vex you to the crack of doom. Tetsu Inoue: Psycho-Acoustic TZA CD 7213 New Japan Perhaps the most interesting electronic music since the classic period of Stockhausen and Xenakis, Tetsu Inoue is a composer and sound artist who has worked in a variety of musics - ambient, sound installation, dance music, techno and is a frequent collaborator of Bill Laswell and Haruomi Hosono. This CD features some of the most intricate and fascinating computer generated compositions you've ever heard. Literally thousands of hours went into the ceration of these miniature masterpieces charting a world of sound as yet unexplored. Also included is a powerful duet with brilliant electronic percussionist Ikue Mori. Merzbow: 1930 TZA CD 7214 New Japan The Japanese Noise scene has received much attention in the past several years, and countless bands have flooded the market with CDs filled with horrible sounds and indiscriminate noise. "Merzbow" is the one and only original Japanese noise band, begun by Masami Akita over 20 years ago and he is still the best of them all. This special release for the Tzadik label is one of his most important compositional creations - an adventurous travelogue into his world of analog and digital noises, taking unexpected twists and turns that will surprise even hardcore Merzbow fans. Merzbow is the undisputed king of the Japanese noise scene and 1930 is one of his very finest releases. DIW Rereleases of Dougie Bowne's "One Way Elevator" and Masada 8. AVANT Rereleases of G-d Is My Co-Pilot's "Mir Shlufn Nisht," Bobby Previte's "Slay the Suitors," Blind Idiot God's "Cyclotron" and James Plotkin's "The Joy of Disease." OTHER RELEASES OF INTEREST Joe Morris/Ken Vandermark/Hans Poppel: Like Rays (Knitting Factory) Microscopic Septet: Take the Z Train (Koch Jazz, reissue) Howard Skempton: Surface Tension (Mode) JUNE 16, 1998 DIW Dave Douglas: Moving Portrait DIW CD 934 Dave Douglas, Bill Carrothers (piano), James Genus (bass), Billy Hart (drums) Following his homages to Booker Little and Wayne Shorter, Moving Portrait is Dave's tribute to an important and brilliant influence, Joni Mitchell. This beautiful quartet plays three of Joni's tunes - "Roses Blue" (from Clouds), "My Old Man" (from Blue) and "The Same Situation" (from Court and Spark), along with Douglas originals dedicated to Joni and the lasting influence of his parents. This is a truly thoughtful and moving recording. [Steve's note: I'm listening to this as I type and agree completely with the Koch copy writer - it's Dave's most conventional record to date but it's also a simply gorgeous jazz record, which in a more just world would be moving 6000 units a week just like the new Wynton Marsalis disc...] AVANT Derek Bailey & Min Xiao-Fen: Viper AVA CD 050 Derek Bailey, one of the founding fathers of the European improvising scene and Min Xiao-Fen, one of China's greatest pipa (Chinese lute) virtuosos met for the first time in front of these sensitive microphones to record this document of free improvisation at its best and most adventurous. Over the past 35 years, Bailey has been one of the most highly influential innovators in music, with dozens of albums demonstrating his highly influential improvisational style and guitar technique. The young Min Xiao-Fen has recorded two stunningly beautiful albums of traditional and modern works for pipa and was featured on John Zorn's Filmworks 8. Two of the world's most exciting string players cross boundaries head-to-head in creating a musical meeting of East and West unlike anything you've ever heard before. David Weinstein: Perfume AVA CD 020 David Weinstein is a composer who uses electronic and recording technology to fashion improbable orchestral and musical juxtapositions. Utilizing rigorous compositional techniques and hackneyed Hollywood tricks as well as the experimental process, Weinstein composes with an appreciation of the divine in the pedestrian. As a composer / keyboardist Weinstein has recorded and performed in collaboration with the singer / composer Shelley Hirsch, in Elliott Sharp's Carbon, with John Zorn, and a variety of other composer / musicians from Arto Lindsay to Zeena Parkins. Five years in the making, Weinstein's first solo CD Perfume charts a dyslexic and exotic path through microtonal scales towards the world of "just intonation." Rerelease of John Oswald's "Plexure" TZADIK Fred Frith: Pacifica (1993-95) TZA CD 7034 Composers Series Pacifica is a major new composition by the world-famous guitarist, improviser and composer Fred Frith. Over an hour in length and composed for a large ensemble of winds, strings and percussion, Pacifica sets the poetry of Pablo Neruda into a seductive and hypnotizing sound world that slowly metamorphoses into something altogether different. Lyrical written passages, inspired improvisations, sensual vocals and provocative sound effects all come together into a fascinating whole - one of Fred Frith's most brilliant orchestral creations. Norman Yamada: Being and Time TZA CD 7035 Composers Series Norman Yamada is a brilliant young composer who has worked with Anthony Coleman, Marc Ribot, the Crosstown Ensemble, the Agon Orchestra and was previously heard on the Avant CD by Rough Assemblage. Being and Time, the first CD dedicated to his compositions for small ensembles, is an atavistic exploration of rock gestures, ambient noise and today's post-modern malaise. A unique compositional statement from a new generation of genre-busting musical thinkers. Ruins: Symphonica TZA CD 7215 New Japan Yoshida Tatsuya, Sasaki Hisashi, Oguchi Kenichi, Emi Eleonora, Kubota Aki For more than a decade, the Ruins have been one of the most consistently exciting groups out of the Japanese underground. Known worldwide for their complex multi-layered compositions and dynamic live performances, the Ruins' groundbreaking music starts and stops on a dime, with the precision of a watch and the power of a sledgehammer. Symphonica is a new direction for this innovative band, which until now has worked solely as a duo. Augmenting their core unit of drums and bass with two female vocalists and a keyboard player of astonishing virtuosity, these brilliant orchestral arrangements of new compositions and Ruins classics display aspects of their music that have been waiting to emerge for years. Phillip Johnston: Music for Films TZA CD 7510 Film Music Phillip Johnston has been charming and perplexing audiences for over twenty years with his lyrical music and ascetic wit. The mastermind behind such bands as the Microscopic Septet and the Transparent Quartet, Phillip has spent much of the past five years composing music for films. From silent classics by George M'lies and Tod Browning's The Unknown, to award-winning contmeporary features like Music of Chance, Phillip's film music shows him to be a brilliant tunesmith and creative arranger with a sophisticated sense of the dramatic. Music for Films compiles Phillip's finest soundtrack work on one disc. A surprising and marvelous compendium of the best of one of jazz's quirkiest and most delightful composers. OTHER LABELS Zorn, Previte, Sharp, Horvitz: Downtown Lullaby (Depth of Field) The Lounge Lizards: Queen of All Ears (Strange and Beautiful) John Lurie: Fishing with John - Soundtrack Music (Strange and Beautiful) Briggan Krauss w/ Wayne Horvitz and Kenny Wollesen: 300 (Knitting Factory) Gotta go soak my fingers... hope you found this of interest. Me, I gotta find a pile of stuff to sell to raise money towards the vast amount of music I'll have to buy this summer... Steve Smith ssmith36@sprynet.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 23:51:31 -0700 (PDT) From: "m. rizzi" Subject: zorn-list ADMIN notice I'll be out of town for the next week, so all zorn-list related administration will have to wait until I return. Also, messages over 5K in size get automatically sent to me for approval by the list software (this helps prevent spam and accidental posting of huge files -- usually attachments or images). Thus, if you are one of the verbose members of our list, then your message will sit in my mailbox until I return. To avoid this horrible fate for your precious prose, please keep your messages short and concise for the next week. mike zorn-list-administrator-and-fascist - -- rizzi@netcom.com -------------------------------------- www.browbeat.com "Another nerd with a soulpatch" - -------- browbeat magazine, po box 11124, oakland, ca 94611-1124 ------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 23:49:13 +0200 From: "Artur Nowak" Subject: "JUST SO HAPPENS" - Gary PEACOCK Hi Philozorners! I'm looking for info about this record: - - "JUST SO HAPPENS" - Gary PEACOCK __ POSTCARDS INC. (1005) 19__. Can anybody please tell what kind of music it is? I know Frisell plays some guitar on this record, but is it any good? I would appreciate also track listing, lineup, release date and other details. Thaks Artur ____________________________________________________________________ Artur Nowak www.silesia.top.pl/~arno/emd/pl40/artists/f/frisell_bill/default.htm - - ------------------------------ End of Zorn List Digest V2 #372 ******************************* To unsubscribe from zorn-list-digest, send an email to "majordomo@lists.xmission.com" with "unsubscribe zorn-list-digest" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. A non-digest (direct mail) version of this list is also available; to subscribe to that instead, replace all instances of "zorn-list-digest" in the commands above with "zorn-list". Back issues are available for anonymous FTP from ftp.xmission.com, in pub/lists/zorn-list/archive. These are organized by date. 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