From: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (Zorn List Digest) To: zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: Zorn List Digest V2 #459 Reply-To: zorn-list Sender: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Zorn List Digest Tuesday, September 15 1998 Volume 02 : Number 459 In this issue: - reissues Coupla British composers masada 10 Suggestions...Turntable (addition). Re: Coupla British composers Re: some suggestions please.... Masada Songbook David Slusser's Rubber City? bloodcount tapes Re: David Slusser's Rubber City? Re: David Slusser's Rubber City? Re: David Slusser's Rubber City? Japanese noise New K.F./Tzadik/Avant DIW Re[2]: David Slusser's Rubber City? Re: David Slusser's Rubber City? POSITION: MONITOR for DREAM HOUSE exhibition (Volunteer Interns) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 19:38:16 -0400 From: Tom Pratt Subject: reissues Some lost rarities of interest have been reissued so I thought I'd let you know about them. Alan Shorter's 'Orgasm' has been reissued for a limited time by Verve and 'Alabama Feeling' by Arthur Doyle + 4 has also been reissued (not by Verve!). I picked both up today so it's too early to give any comments but just so you know... (I saw the original vinyl for 'Orgasm' go for $150 the other day and apparently the original vinyl for the Doyle goes up to $200 in Japan). Some recent purchases that I highly recommend: Sun City Girls - 330,003 Crossdressers From Beyond the Rig Veda Double CD on Abduction with Eyvind Kang guesting on a 34 minute track. An incredible disc (especially the first disc). Shamanistic Ceremonies From The Eastern Seaboard (JVC World Series) Traditional music from Korea. At times you will swear your listening to a Giuseppi Logan/Milford Graves duo. Amazing! -Tom Pratt - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 20:05:55 -0400 From: Brian Olewnick Subject: Coupla British composers Has anyone heard the music of either Dave Smith or John White (not names that'll stand out in a crowd, I guess)? I came across them in the liners to Howard Skempton's stunningly gorgeous album, 'Well, Well, Cornelius' (Sony Classical SK 66482), where they're cited as composers often featured in John Tilbury's recitals. Tilbury, through both my recent exposure to his work with AMM and this record, is swiftly becoming a strong favorite of mine; I'm eagerly looking forward to his release of the complete Feldman piano works this fall. Skempton's disc, by the way, consists of 44 short pieces for piano that remind me of Satie in his spare, "Rosicrucian" period, combined with dashes of Rzewski and Cardew, all of it refracted through a Feldmanesque prism (Morty, not Marty!). Deceptively simple jewels, strikingly beautiful. Brian Olewnick - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 20:28:38 -0500 From: Pierre Toussaint Subject: masada 10 CDnow anounces that Masada 10 will be released on the 15th of september. Hope this is news for all of you, it was for me. - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 21:02:41 -0400 From: "Jason J. Tar" Subject: Suggestions...Turntable (addition). Got the new DJ Disk cd called _Ancient Termites_. Most impressive, some tracks are traditional hip hop cut-ups, but many are more about textures. Much better than the recent Mix Master Mike cd. Features Brain and Buckethead on a couple tracks. Out on the Bomb Hip Hop label. (DJ Disk also recently remixed Primus and was featured on the live Praxis album along with the other ISPiklz.) I would recommend AVOIDING anything by X-Ecutioners, who are often touted as worthwhile DJs. Their cd on Asphodel, called _X-Pressions_, is weighed down with a whole lot of awful MCs who take away from the cuts. How many times do you want to hear some guy yell "Roc Raida"?? :( [Though they do have a Japanese cd recently out called _Japan X-clusive_ that supposedly features Japanese MCs that might not be as awful, but still....] - --- Peace Hugs and Unity Jason J. Tar W. W. J. D? (What would Jason Do?) http://pilot.msu.edu/user/tarjason ICQ@13792120 - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 21:37:50 EDT From: JonAbbey2@aol.com Subject: Re: Coupla British composers In a message dated 9/14/98 8:14:00 PM, olewnik@IDT.NET wrote: <> then you'll be happy to know that Matchless 14 is John Tilbury-Dave Smith's First Piano Concert. this is one of the few Matchless titles I haven't heard so I can't give you feedback on how it is but it is out there. <> any more info on this? what label is it on? how many CDs? Jon, who just bumped his vacation back a week so he wouldn't miss Keiji Haino's visit to NYC. - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 09:57:36 -0400 From: Caleb Deupree Subject: Re: some suggestions please.... >>>>> "jt" == jtalbot writes: jt> i'm looking to buy some mingus and christian marclay. can jt> anyone shoot out some suggestons? they would be greatly jt> appreciated. i'm looking for some of mingus' more "free" jt> stuff. his more complicated and/or "out there" stuff (for lack jt> of a better word). Marclay's work on Butch Morris' Conduction 22 with Le Quan Ninh and Gunter Muller on percussion, JA Deane on trombone and live sampling, and Martin Schutz on cello is nothing short of amazing, the best conduction I've heard so far. I like this better than Marclay's solo work that I've heard. jt> i'm also interested in hearing some turntable/djtype jt> stuff. not club music. musicians who push the boundaries of jt> this instrument. any suggestions? thanks Check out David Shea's work, especially Satyricon, Tower of Mirrors, or Prisoner; and Otomo Yoshihide, either his solo work, or his more well known 'band' Ground Zero. All GZ is interesting, but I would start with their Null & Void (on Tzadik, their most widely available), Revolutionary Pekinese Opera, Consume Red (both on ReR) or Plays Standards. Although John Oswald doesn't DJ or play turntables, his plunderphonics work is essential if you're interested in reusing pre-existing recordings, which is at least part of what turntable players do. Oswald works with more classical tape techniques, so the act of scratching or live turntable manipulation is completely missing. If you have a good internet connection, you can download his first (banned) album, or look for Plexure on Avant, which is phenomenal. - --- Caleb T. Deupree ;; Opinions... funny thing about opinions, they can change. Computers are useless. They can only give you answers. (Pablo Picasso) - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 15:28:21 GMT0BST From: DR S WILKIE Subject: Masada Songbook Anybody know what number 191 in the Masada Songbook is? Sean - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 98 11:07:13 -0500 From: brian_olewnick@smtplink.mssm.edu Subject: David Slusser's Rubber City? Reading the interview with Slusser on the Perfect Sound Forever site (thanks, Jason), he mentions this band, consisting of himself and Ralph Carney on reeds, w/ bass and drums. Pre-dating the founding of Masada, the band apparently works a similar post-Ornette territory. Slusser didn't say whether this band has recorded; if not, has anyone heard them? Opinions? There was a commercial a coupla years back (for brillo-like pads?) featuring a bunch or dancing, clattering pots and pans. I'd always thought the rhythms were surprisingly complex and enjoyable, surprising in that context. I feel a bit vindicated upon now discovering that Slusser was responsible for the music! Brian Olewnick - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 12:39:42 -0400 (EDT) From: jascha Subject: bloodcount tapes Awhile ago someone on this list agreed to tape me some bloodcount stuff, which has yet to arrive here. I'm thinking maybe my address got lost before it could be sent, so if you're they guy who's kindly taping stuff for me, please write back and i'll send you my address again. Sorry for the use of bandwidth, everyone else... - -jascha - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 11:43:34 -0500 (CDT) From: "Robert A. Pleshar" Subject: Re: David Slusser's Rubber City? Slusser & Carney are both from Akron (home of Goodyear and other rubber companies). Hence the name of their band. I don't know what they sounded like though. I believe bay area reedist Dan Plonsey is also originally from Akron. Geographically yours, Ralph At 11:07 AM 9/15/98 -0500, brian_olewnick@smtplink.mssm.edu wrote: > > Reading the interview with Slusser on the Perfect Sound Forever site > (thanks, Jason), he mentions this band, consisting of himself and > Ralph Carney on reeds, w/ bass and drums. Pre-dating the founding of > Masada, the band apparently works a similar post-Ornette territory. > > Slusser didn't say whether this band has recorded; if not, has anyone > heard them? Opinions? > > There was a commercial a coupla years back (for brillo-like pads?) > featuring a bunch or dancing, clattering pots and pans. I'd always > thought the rhythms were surprisingly complex and enjoyable, > surprising in that context. I feel a bit vindicated upon now > discovering that Slusser was responsible for the music! > > Brian Olewnick > > > > >- > > - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 11:42:32 -0500 From: nearixson@juno.com (Nathan M Earixson) Subject: Re: David Slusser's Rubber City? On Tue, 15 Sep 98 11:07:13 -0500 brian_olewnick@smtplink.mssm.edu writes: > > Reading the interview with Slusser on the Perfect Sound Forever >site > (thanks, Jason), he mentions this band, consisting of himself and > > Ralph Carney on reeds, w/ bass and drums. Pre-dating the founding >of > Masada, the band apparently works a similar post-Ornette >territory. > > Slusser didn't say whether this band has recorded; if not, has >anyone > heard them? Opinions? Is it possible that this is the 'Rubber City' that plays on the soundtrack to David Lynch's 'Wild at Heart'? - -nathan _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 11:47:35 -0700 From: john shiurba Subject: Re: David Slusser's Rubber City? > Reading the interview with Slusser on the Perfect Sound Forever site > (thanks, Jason), he mentions this band, consisting of himself and > Ralph Carney on reeds, w/ bass and drums. Pre-dating the founding of > Masada, the band apparently works a similar post-Ornette territory. > Slusser didn't say whether this band has recorded; if not, has anyone > heard them? Opinions? I've seen them a few times. They're great, but I don't know what if anything they have to do with, or why they would be seen as predating Masada, other than they were around before Masada and they're an interesting jazz group. I don't think they've released any recordings. - -- shiurba@sfo.com http://www.sfo.com/~shiurba I don't wake up for less than $10,000 a day. (L. Evangelista) - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 14:11:08 -0600 From: Deanna Lee Subject: Japanese noise Does anyone know of clubs/venues in Tokyo where I can find good noise a la Boredoms, Ruins, Zeni Geva, etc.? Or websites to guide me there? - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 15:44:53 -0400 (EDT) From: William York Subject: New K.F./Tzadik/Avant DIW Yesterday we got a huge shipment of stuff from these guys at the radio (I think it all came in the same box) so I ended up taking home about 13 new CDs, including Zorn's Ganyru Island, Aporias, and Masada 10. Anyway, I just wanted to say that I heard the first few songs of the new Naftule's Dream (_Smash, Clap!_) and it sounds awesome. It's produced by Laswell and while I'm often not too big on his production, this has a huge sound to it and the playing and writing are superb. I haven't had a chance to hear the whole thing but so far this is one of the most immediately likeable and most rocking Tzadik CDs I've heard. Also, Bruce Ackley of ROVA has a trio CD with Joey Baron and Greg Cohen which is just excellent straight ahead trio jazz. I'm not a big soprano sax fan but this sounded great on the first listen. With Ganyru Island, I was surprised how in-noisy it was. The shamisen player (forgt the name) plays a lot of straight rhytmic parts while Zorn is doing the duck calls and so forth. I just made it to trck #6 where things started to come together a little bit more, but before that they weren't blending together so well. His duck call playing, underwater sax and all that seems a bit more gimmicky than on Locus Solus, which just amazes me. Still, its fairly interesting. Aporias is pretty short (30:00 or so) and quiet, but not extremely quiet. I can't give a lot of comparisons to other classical composers, but I'll just say it seems on the less extreme side and sounds good so far. The Knitting Factory Stuff (Brigan Krauss, E#, Zony Mash) sounded o.k. but didn't really knock me out. I was disappointed to hear Krauss doing so much improv, I would rather just hear him PLAY and not hear all this tentative bouncing ideas off each other stuff (most of it sounded like they just rolled the tape and played and kept what they liked). The Knit also put out a CD single of Hasidic New Wave and God is My Copilot doing a remade version of The Dead Kennedy's "California Uber Alles" with new political lyrics about Mayor Guilliani (sp?). No, I'm not kidding either. I've got to go home and listen to all this stuff again, plus the new KF Cd with Thomas Chapin and the Berlin Contemporary Jazz Orchestra. Sorry to be so vague, just wanted to brag about having all this stuff (temporarily) for free. WY - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 98 15:55:12 -0500 From: brian_olewnick@smtplink.mssm.edu Subject: Re[2]: David Slusser's Rubber City? John wrote: >I've seen them a few times. They're great, but I don't know what if >anything they have to do with, or why they would be seen as predating >Masada, other than they were around before Masada and they're an >interesting jazz group. >I don't think they've released any recordings. In the interview, Slusser made mention of the fact, implying (to me, anyway) that there was a similarity in approach. If not, not. Brian O. - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 17:35:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Taylor McLaren Subject: Re: David Slusser's Rubber City? MEEP! Nathan Earixson wrote: >Is it possible that this is the 'Rubber City' that plays on the >soundtrack to David Lynch's 'Wild at Heart'? Given that this interview (http://www.furious.com/perfect/slusser.html) specifically mentions the work that Meester Slusser did on Wild at Heart and Firewalk With Me, yeah... I'd say that there's a good chance that they're one and the same. I'm suddenly very interested in hearing _Delight_. - -me - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 19:43:23 -0400 From: David Beardsley Subject: POSITION: MONITOR for DREAM HOUSE exhibition (Volunteer Interns) MELA Foundation Inc. 275 Church Street New York, NY 10013 212-925-8270 September 1998 Mela Foundation is seeking interns for unpaid volunteer positions of Monitor for Dream House exhibition. Dream House: Seven Years of Sound and Light, a collaborative Sound and Light Environment by composer La Monte Young and visual artist Marian Zazeela, is presented in an extended exhibition at MELA Foundation, 275 Church Street, 3rd Floor. Young and Zazeela characterize the Sound and Light Environment as a "time installation measured by a setting of continuous frequencies in sound and light." POSITION: MONITOR for DREAM HOUSE exhibition (Volunteer Interns) Hours: Exhibition is open Thursdays and Saturdays from 2:00 PM to Midnight. Time slots of four to six hours need to be filled on those days. Description: Monitor will open or close exhibition; turn on electronic sound equiptment and turn up light environment; make sure all technical equiptment is running properly; greet visitors; distribute information; answer questions concerning the environment; sell books and recordings. Contact: Call the MELA Foundation, 212-925-8270. If you call, leave a message on the answering machine with your phone number and times we can reach you. Or come to 275 Church Street, 3rd Floor, Thursdays and Saturdays, 2:00 PM to Midnight, and experience the environment and speak to the monitor on duty. Press Commentary on Exhibition: "... the multifaceted form of the 35-frequency construction of Young's current installation is the principal reason it changes hallucinogenically with every shift in perspective and why the tones freeze in place as long as one is perfectly still while the slightest gesture will startle forth unnamable, wildly plumed melodies from the luxuriant harmonic foliage. Zazeela's light sculptures have invariably, teasingly refused to surrender their entire secret to photographic reprodution, so much do they depend on the retinal impact of activated photons in real time and so much do they exploit, in ways analagous to Young's techniques, the creation of visual combination tones and an accumulation of after-images." - -- Sandy McCroskey, 1/1, The Journal of the Just Intonation Network "Young's newest sine-tone sculpture shimmers and swirls as you walk around the room and, amazingly, when you freeze, it does too. Stay at least long enough to stare at Zazeela's Imagic Light and Ruine Window, which will imprint your retina with blues and purples you haven't felt before." - -- Kyle Gann, The Village Voice "The visitor with an acute ear can actually 'play' the room like an instrument: explore the sound close to the wall, close to the floor, in the corner, or just standing still. Or lie on the floor and allow the sound to float you into heaven, slide you into hell, or transport you wherever you want to go. See if you agree with those who call Young's sound sculpture a precursor of ambient music. Zazeela's light installation, "Imagic Light," offers an intriuging complement to the sound, even though it is equally effective when viewed in silence. Using pairs of colored lights and suspended aluminum mobiles cut out in calligraphic shapes, Zazeela explores the relationship between object and shadow, making the tangible intangible, and vice versa. Enjoy the installation for its mesmerizing beauty, or try to analyze how the different colors are achieved, how the mobiles create the resulting shadows, or perspective the infinite number of symmetrical patterns in the room." - -- David Farneth, Metrobeat Music Eternal Light Art * David Beardsley * xouoxno@virtulink.com * * virtual dream house monitor * for the MELA Foundation * * http://www.virtulink.com/mela/main.htm - - ------------------------------ End of Zorn List Digest V2 #459 ******************************* To unsubscribe from zorn-list-digest, send an email to "majordomo@lists.xmission.com" with "unsubscribe zorn-list-digest" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. A non-digest (direct mail) version of this list is also available; to subscribe to that instead, replace all instances of "zorn-list-digest" in the commands above with "zorn-list". 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