From: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (Zorn List Digest) To: zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: Zorn List Digest V2 #783 Reply-To: zorn-list Sender: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Zorn List Digest Sunday, October 31 1999 Volume 02 : Number 783 In this issue: - Re: Great American Mavericks/Glass & Carny Rob Blakeslee In Ventura CA Re: Ross Bolleter Horny electronics re: new purchases Re: Horny electronics re: new purchases RE: Jewish Soul/American Beat re: new purchases Re: Ross Bolleter prelapse etc... 99 Hooker (more horny electronics) Re: oh yeah i should tell u where its posted Intro Jazz on CD-ROM Keiji Haino, Ganelin Trio, Charlie Mingus articles Friedlander Film Music Zorn "Defense" Letters ross bolleter haino/brotzmann: !#?* ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 20:52:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Pratt Subject: Re: Great American Mavericks/Glass & Carny - --- Jeni Dahmus wrote: > I felt that the score followed the film well and was > very moving. My friend hated it and found the music > relentless. Perhaps it's a matter of taste... Yeah, I gave the 'Dracula' disc a listen and was pretty bored. Ended up giving it to a friend... It's a shame, I think, the path that Glass' music has taken. His early work was so great. -Tom Pratt ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 21:18:49 -0700 From: s~Z Subject: Rob Blakeslee In Ventura CA The new issue of pfMENTUM is available for free download at the pfMENTUM website: http://www.jetlink.net/~pfmentum It features an interview with composer/trumpet player Rob Blakeslee and info about his upcoming performance at City Hall in Ventura, California. There are also Real Audio excerpts of the new Jeff Kaiser/Woody Aplanalp CD (Asphalt Buddhas, pfMENTUM CD003) for your listening enjoyment. Thanks, Keith and Jeff pfmentum@jetlink.net - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 14:17:43 +0800 From: numbats@iinet.net.au Subject: Re: Ross Bolleter hi, I am your token 'Aussie'. Ross used to live round here, in fact I am pretty sure he still does. Here is Western Australia, which is like Texas only without the people, and dare I say it, 'bigger than Texas. I will ask around and find out what he is up to and get back to 'y' all'. Musically I haven't seen anything for quite some time, but his stuff was usually on cassettes. Billy > Anyone heard anything by this guy? As near as I can tell (I may be way > off), he's a contemporary Australian composer who, at least sometimes, > writes for pianos which have been left out in the elements for lengthy > periods of time. I suppose you could call it "cured" piano as opposed > to "prepared". I think he also composes for accordion, straight or > weather-battered, I don't know. > > We have an Aussie or two on board, eh? Someone must have heard him! > > Brian Olewnick > > (NYC Tower's downtown store actually has a vacant section for him in > the classical department) > > >- - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 09:37:33 +0100 From: Richard@rcvs.org.uk Subject: Horny electronics > Okura's sax is a bit of a sore thumb to the otherwise > ego-less playing, but I think a large amount of that > can be accredited to the nature of his instrument. > It's incredibly difficult to really integrate a horn > into electronic sound. Agreed. Those who have an interest might like to hear VHF's recent release on erstwhile (http://www.erstwhile.com) on which a classic sax-bass-drum trio take a lead from contemporary electronics rather than jazz to create something perplexing and oddly beautiful. The drummer uses a tone generator to add a pinch of electronics, but it really is mostly acoustic, notwithstanding what it sounds like. A review and sound clip will be in the next (musings) update. Rich - ------------------------------------------------- (musings): reviews (with MP3s) of new improv, free jazz and avant-electronic releases. http://come.to/musings.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 08:04:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Pratt Subject: re: new purchases - --- Alexander Blok wrote: > > I think the new Fennesz disc is a solid step forward > from 'Hotel Paral.llel'. The texture of the digital > drone has become much more refined, but there's > hardly a trace of the Techno element which used to > motor some of his tracks. Well, the thing is is that Fennesz is coming as much from musique concrete of the contemporary classical world as he is underground dance music of the '80s and early '90s. To me, the techno/dance element that occasionally emerges on 'Hotel Paral_lel' isn't a cheap way of motoring the more abstract passages but is instead a very natural coming-together of his influences. Still, I haven't had the chance to listen to the new one yet. -Tom Pratt ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 12:17:06 EDT From: JonAbbey2@aol.com Subject: Re: Horny electronics In a message dated 10/28/99 6:01:13 AM, Richard@rcvs.org.uk writes: << Agreed. Those who have an interest might like to hear VHF's recent release on erstwhile (http://www.erstwhile.com) on which a classic sax-bass-drum trio take a lead from contemporary electronics rather than jazz to create something perplexing and oddly beautiful. The drummer uses a tone generator to add a pinch of electronics, but it really is mostly acoustic, notwithstanding what it sounds like. A review and sound clip will be in the next (musings) update. >> the web site's actually at www.erstwhilerecords.com, in case anyone follows Rich's link and is confused. Jon - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 15:59:46 -0400 (EDT) From: ALexander Blok Subject: re: new purchases > > I think the new Fennesz disc is a solid step forward > > from 'Hotel Paral.llel'. The texture of the digital > > drone has become much more refined, but there's > > hardly a trace of the Techno element which used to > > motor some of his tracks. > Well, the thing is is that Fennesz is coming as much > from musique concrete of the contemporary classical > world as he is underground dance music of the '80s and > early '90s. To me, the techno/dance element that > occasionally emerges on 'Hotel Paral_lel' isn't a > cheap way of motoring the more abstract passages but > is instead a very natural coming-together of his > influences. Hmm, well, I didn't mean to imply any sense of "cheapness" when I wrote Fennesz used Techno as a motor on HP. I intended motor to mean two things really. First, that he accomplishes, like you said, a coming-together of musique-concrete and techno (let's not forget rock). That is, as one component under the hood. But also, in the sense that "motor" implies movement ---> rhythm. Any feeling of rhythm one can derive out of HP for the most part points to...the obvious... - -eric. - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 16:03:29 EDT From: Orangejazz@aol.com Subject: RE: Jewish Soul/American Beat a bit more information : it includes some interview clips with Steve Reich, about his experience. from, matt - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 15:53:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Pratt Subject: re: new purchases - --- ALexander Blok wrote: > > Hmm, well, I didn't mean to imply any sense of > "cheapness" when I wrote Fennesz used Techno as a > motor on HP. I intended motor to mean two things > really. First, that he accomplishes, like you said, > a coming-together of musique-concrete and techno > (let's not forget rock). That is, as one component > under the hood. But also, in the sense that "motor" > implies movement ---> rhythm. Any feeling of rhythm > one can derive out of HP for the most part points > to...the obvious... Ok, I'm a little confused... What is "the obvious"? Are you saying that the more techno/dance sections in 'Hotel Paral_lel' are predictable and uninteresting? What exactly are you saying? -Tom Pratt ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 08:47:44 +0800 From: numbats@iinet.net.au Subject: Re: Ross Bolleter >hi, > I am your token 'Aussie'. Ross used to live round here, in fact I am >pretty sure he still does. Here is Western Australia, which is like Texas >only without the people, and dare I say it, 'bigger than Texas. >I will ask around and find out what he is up to and get back to 'y' all'. >Musically I haven't seen anything for quite some time, but his stuff was >usually on cassettes. >Billy hi, I rang him up last night. He is here in Perth, Western Australia. He has just returned from New Zealand where he has been teaching Zen, which is his other 'passion'. When he is not teaching, his music is what he does. He tells me he has just done 2 cds and will let me have details of them and other stuff from the past since "Austral voices" - a long time ago. Billy - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 12:16:09 -0700 From: e Subject: prelapse etc... I finally got the new Prelapse cd from tzadik, really pretty amazing they truely do "shred" those naked city tunes, as well as their own. Mr. Wendell does a better Eye than...well Eye! o.k. well better than mike patton anyway, and all while ripping some pretty impressive bass. This cd definately fills a void for me left after the demise of that zorn project. If you liked Torture Garden, and Radio pick it up for sure you won't be dissapointed. On another note (shameless self promotion) our Cortex Bomb cd has been getting some reviews...we certainly count Zorn high on our list of influences, here is a review from Magnet's Fred Mills http://www.tucsonweekly.com/tw/current/qscans.html if you are interested visit our website for some freebies mp3 style, and other nonsense. http://www.mockbrawn.com/bands/cortex/ we welcome cd trades... pasta, Eric - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 19:52:08 GMT From: "Scott Handley" Subject: 99 Hooker (more horny electronics) Who is this guy/gal, and what has (s)he done outside Bible Launcher and the duo disc on Ltd. Sedition? What are the live shows like, w/ electronics, etc? I understand 99 Hooker has some interactive CDs out: what are they like and how can they be acquired? - ---s, inquisitive/acquisitive ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 18:47:46 -0400 From: Rich Williams Subject: Re: oh yeah i should tell u where its posted >Hey, > >I checked deja.com for the newsgroup and I didn't find the dave >douglas show. Is there somewhere on the web that it resides? Most people who post mp3's, pirated software, or whatever, put an extra line in their header so that Deja news will not archive the posting. You need a dedicated newsreader that connects to your ISP's Usenet server, or a third party provider like Supernews. Good programs are Agent on the PC, and Newswatcher on the mac, though I'd bet that the Douglas mp3's have expired by now.....:-( - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 10:14:00 -0400 From: "Ljova" Subject: Intro Dear Zorn List: Well, I've been lurking on the list for about two-three weeks now, and thought that it might be time for an introduction. My name is Ljova, and I'm a New-York based composer and violist. I was born in Moscow, Russia, and moved here 10 years ago. Currently, I'm a student at Juilliard (for viola), and will be graduating in May. As a composer, I write whenever I have the time, or the irresistable urge to do so. (School and freelancing take a huge bite out of my time.) My compositions are very diverse in styles, orchestration and concept. At the same time, it can be said that the majority of them are rather short. (Maximum duration is maybe 15 minutes; minimum 30 seconds.) Lately, I've been writing a sinful lot of New-Agey sounding stuff, but I think that phase is on its way out. As a violist, I've been freelancing in and around town (NYC, that is) for a while, and have done lots of really cool and interesting work. Of interest to the Zorn list might be my two-year stint with the Absolute Ensemble, as well as some appearances at HERE. Of the more "uptown" stuff, I've also played with the Orchestra of St. Luke's, and The Wild Ginger Philharmonic. I've also played some sessions... I've signed up to the Zorn list to see what is happening in "Downtown" music, and, thankfully, I'm receiving quite an education. It's wonderful to see concert notices, reviews, and discussions! Until now, I haven't seen many downtown events, but I am now making more of an effort. I'm good friends with Todd Reynolds (violinist), and generally attend whatever he recommends. It would be nice, of course, to have a greater familiarity with the downtown scene -- which is why I'm here. I own two of Zorn's CD's -- "Music for Children" and "String Quartets". They are both very interesting, and very varied. Some pieces I like a lot, others not as much. But that can change during years of repeated listenning, and/or acquiring his other works. If you're interested in knowing more, hearing my music, or just have some time to kill, feel free to visit my website, http://www.Ljova.com, which was just updated with some new stuff. Let me know what you think! Thanks for reading, please continue sharing! :) Regards, Ljova - -------- Lev "Ljova" Zhurbin L@Ljova.com http://www.Ljova.com "Do not fear mistakes - there are none." -Miles Davis - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 09:47:53 +0100 From: infolit Subject: Jazz on CD-ROM Hello! Who is interested in Jazz on CD-ROM? I am interested in various artists: from Louis Armstrong to Weather Report. For trading I have a small collection of CD-ROMs. If you are interested, please send me your lists, questions and offers. Igor Balenko Jazz_collectors List Owner Web-site: Mailing list: e-mail: - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 09:59:47 -0500 From: Perfect Sound Forever Subject: Keiji Haino, Ganelin Trio, Charlie Mingus articles Greetings, In the latest edition of Perfect Sound Forever , you'll find (among other things): * Ganelin Trio- Year Zero in the Soviet Union How this fierce jazz ensemble survived the Iron Curtain * Keiji Haino The mysterious sorcerer attacks with guitar mayhem * Charlie Mingus in the '70's The Taurus in Winter: the final years We're always looking for good material so let us know if you have any writing or ideas for upcoming issues. See you online, Jason Perfect Sound Forever online music magazine perfect-sound@furious.com http://www.furious.com/perfect - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 17:44:08 +0100 From: Stephen Fruitman Subject: Friedlander Film Music I just received a copy of an animated short feature entitled _Silence_, by Sylvie Bringas and Orly Yadin, from its Swedish co-producer. In a mere ten minutes it manages a brilliant and poetic description of a young girl=B4s grappling with her identity as a survivor from Auschwitz, rescued at the end of the war and brought to Sweden. Highly recommended. I have no idea if the film is available through any retail outlets yet, but I will get back to the list when I find out. Of interest to the list is the fact that the score features Erik =46riedlander on solo cello throughout. According to the credits, the text and music are adapted from a piece entitled "Through the Silence: Concerto for Cello and Survivor" by Noa Alin. If anyone has any further information to offer about this piece, I=B4d be grateful if you got in touch. Stephen Fruitman - -------------------------- Bj=F6rn Olsson, Inst. f=F6r id=E9historia, Ume=E5 universitet 901 87 Ume=E5 tel. 090-7867982 fax 143374 e-post: bjorn.olsson@idehist.umu.se - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:01:37 +0100 From: Stephen Fruitman Subject: Zorn "Defense" Letters Someone (Steve Smith?) mentioned that the week after the Schatz article on Zorn, three critical letters to the editor were printed in the NYT, one of them by Dave Douglas. =46or my own research purposes, I wonder if there is anyone out there who could photocopy those letters for me (unless they are online, and you can point me at the right site)? E-mail me privately if you can do me that favour. All the best, Stephen - ------------------ Bj=F6rn Olsson, Inst. f=F6r id=E9historia, Ume=E5 universitet 901 87 Ume=E5 tel. 090-7867982 fax 143374 e-post: bjorn.olsson@idehist.umu.se - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:17:13 -0500 From: "Caleb T. Deupree" Subject: ross bolleter A big coincidence that after the recent discussions here about the Australian composer Ross Bolleter that a new album of his is reviewed in Cadence (of all places). Sadly they don't list it in their center section, but FWIW the album is called Crow Country, it's on Warps, it includes five pieces, including one pieces for ruined piano, two pieces with bass (different players on each piece), one piece for solo accordion, and one piece for ruined piano and live tape manipulation. They give it amazingly high marks, considering it doesn't sound like their usual fare. I'm looking forward to picking this up somewhere. - -- Caleb Deupree cdeupree@erinet.com It is pretty obvious that the debasement of the human mind caused by a constant flow of fraudulent advertising is no trivial thing. There is more than one way to conquer a country. - -- Raymond Chandler - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:21:44 GMT From: "Scott Handley" Subject: haino/brotzmann: !#?* This is from the nice PERFECT SOUND FOREVER article on Haino, which seems like a nice, even critical overview of Haino's recorded work: "And perhaps, one day, the recording of Fushitsusha playing with Peter Brotzmann will see daylight. (Haino acknowledges its existence, but says it's not scheduled for release.)" Oh my god. Could this be? The end of the world? Or of global capital? Also, John Corbett has spoken of a Milford Graves/William Parker/ Peter Brotzmann trio which has played in the states at times. This is another grouping which makes me wonder why the label owners aren't chasing down tapes...alas, so much music, so little time... - -----s, ruminatin' ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ End of Zorn List Digest V2 #783 ******************************* To unsubscribe from zorn-list-digest, send an email to "majordomo@lists.xmission.com" with "unsubscribe zorn-list-digest" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. A non-digest (direct mail) version of this list is also available; to subscribe to that instead, replace all instances of "zorn-list-digest" in the commands above with "zorn-list". Back issues are available for anonymous FTP from ftp.xmission.com, in pub/lists/zorn-list/archive. These are organized by date. Problems? 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