From: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (Zorn List Digest) To: zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: Zorn List Digest V2 #805 Reply-To: zorn-list Sender: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Zorn List Digest Thursday, December 2 1999 Volume 02 : Number 805 In this issue: - Re: Julius Hemphill Re: arvo part ikue mori and design Re: SY Re: ikue mori and design Re: SY Re: ikue mori and design Re: ikue mori and design Re: ikue mori and design Re: ikue mori and design Re: ikue mori and design Part, Reed Re: ikue mori and design Re: ikue mori and design Re: ikue mori and design ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 11:24:48 -0500 (EST) From: Ken Waxman Subject: Re: Julius Hemphill Will there be a track on it written by Murray/Bluiet/Lake called: "Why We Kicked Him Out Of The Group"? Ken Waxman On Wed, 1 Dec 1999, James Hale wrote: > The next WSQ recording will be a tribute to Julius, featuring all-new > music from the group. Out on Justin Time in the new year. - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 12:04:31 -0500 From: Nils Subject: Re: arvo part Aaron Chee-Kean Chua wrote: > i was wondering if anyone had any favourite Part discs they would > recommen. tabula rasa was my introduction and i think it has way more variety and depth than the recordings that followed. and i'm partial to pieces involving many cellos. if you're into vocal churchy music, then i would highly recommend te deum, which also works quite well for meditation purposes. i think te deum is the recording that made it possible for me to get my phd. - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 10:09:09 PST From: "robert ludington" Subject: ikue mori and design hello zornlist, i have to do a report on 3 modern illustrators for a graphic design course that i am enrolled in. i was wondering if anyone could help me out with finding some info on ikue mori's design work, like the covers she does for Tzadik...? all i am finding on the net is about her music. i'd really like to incorperate her into the paper, but i don't know if that will be possible unless i find a great deal more of this sort of information... would it be a good idea to contact Tzadik via email as well? well, if anyone has any links or anything, i'd really apreciate it. thanks in advance.. p.s. i'm also hoping to cover Winston Smith, who did many cover designs for the Dead Kennedys and other AT artists & t-shirts, etc... anyone have any info on him either? i've found some, but i'm guessing the majority could only be found in one of the books AT is selling, which i have neither the money for right now, or the time to wait for shipping.. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 12:42:14 -0600 (CST) From: Whit Schonbein Subject: Re: SY haven't heard dirty or washing machine. of those that i have heard (all of the except those two, i think) i prefer: All the SYR ep's (1-4), and i also like the 'silver sessions' ep that someone else on the list didn't care for too much - although i agree that it has sort of a superfluous feel (the entire ep consists of waves of feedback, with some really low level distorted crappy drum machine on parts - creates a nice drone). Proceeds (or part of them) go to suicide prevention (the suicide of a fan prompted its release, i gather from the liner notes). from the 'good old days': evol, sister, and daydream nation - if i had to pick one, i'd have to pick daydream nation (unless i was trying to be cool ;) by picking one that isn't so widely considered to be their landmark album, evol (on vinyl - there's a great 'infinte skip' at the end of side two that you don't get on the cd - or is that on the end of sister? i'm pretty sure its evol...) anyway, a thousand leaves renewed my faith in the major label sonic youth releases. a really strong album. my 2 cents, whit - ------------------------------------------ Philosophy-Neuroscience-Psychology Program Department of Philosophy Washington University St. Louis, MO, USA http://artsci.wustl.edu/~wwschonb/ whit@twinearth.wustl.edu - ------------------------------------------ - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 13:46:11 -0500 From: "Dann-Brown" Subject: Re: ikue mori and design Winston Smith has his own website. http://www.winstonsmith.com/ - ----- Original Message ----- From: robert ludington To: Sent: Thursday, December 02, 1999 01:09 PM Subject: ikue mori and design > hello zornlist, > > i have to do a report on 3 modern illustrators for a graphic design > course that i am enrolled in. i was wondering if anyone could help me out > with finding some info on ikue mori's design work, like the covers she does > for Tzadik...? all i am finding on the net is about her music. i'd really > like to incorperate her into the paper, but i don't know if that will be > possible unless i find a great deal more of this sort of information... > would it be a good idea to contact Tzadik via email as well? > well, if anyone has any links or anything, i'd really apreciate it. > thanks in advance.. > > p.s. i'm also hoping to cover Winston Smith, who did many cover designs for > the Dead Kennedys and other AT artists & t-shirts, etc... anyone have any > info on him either? i've found some, but i'm guessing the majority could > only be found in one of the books AT is selling, which i have neither the > money for right now, or the time to wait for shipping.. > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > - > - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 14:23:38 -0500 From: Dan Hewins Subject: Re: SY >All the SYR ep's (1-4), and i also like the 'silver sessions' ep I wouldn't call all of the SYR CDs EPs though. SYR 4 (Goodbye 20th Century) is a 2 CD set. I also like the SKR 1 (Silver Sessions). SKR is Sonic Knuth Records, for the person, Jason Knuth, who committed suicide. >from the 'good old days': evol, sister, and daydream nation I have only recently gotten into Sonic Youth (thanks to Whit) and I haven't heard too much of anything early except for Daydream Nation, which is great. >anyway, a thousand leaves renewed my faith in the major label sonic youth >releases. a really strong album. "A Thousand Leaves" is really great. You can hear elements of the SYR EPs on the record. In fact some of the songs are tracks from the EPs with vocals and other parts. The EPs tend to be long and noisy with little to no vocals. There is some vocal from Kim Gordon on parts. I have also heard some live SY from 1998 and I think that it's very good. I like to hear their avant tendencies play out in more of a "song" format. Which is like "A Thousand Leaves." Dan Hewins - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 15:19:19 -0800 From: Jason Tors Subject: Re: ikue mori and design ikue mori is not the designer for Tzadik. The designer is a japanese woman, her name escapes me, look on the first naked city album, her name is printed there. I searched the web for some info on her but all I came up with was some scans of the naked city artwork. >hello zornlist, >h > i have to do a report on 3 modern illustrators for a graphic design >course that i am enrolled in. i was wondering if anyone could help me out >with finding some info on ikue mori's design work, like the covers she does >for Tzadik...? all i am finding on the net is about her music. i'd really >like to incorperate her into the paper, but i don't know if that will be >possible unless i find a great deal more of this sort of information... >would it be a good idea to contact Tzadik via email as well? > well, if anyone has any links or anything, i'd really apreciate it. >thanks in advance.. > >p.s. i'm also hoping to cover Winston Smith, who did many cover designs for >the Dead Kennedys and other AT artists & t-shirts, etc... anyone have any >info on him either? i've found some, but i'm guessing the majority could >only be found in one of the books AT is selling, which i have neither the >money for right now, or the time to wait for shipping.. > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > >- - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 15:12:25 -0500 From: Matthew Ross Davis Subject: Re: ikue mori and design If you'll look inside many of Zorn's CDs released on Tzadik, you'll find that Ikue Mori is indeed the designer. Circle Maker is one that comes to mind immediately, but I know a lot of what he (as opposed to other artists on the label) has released includes her artwork. At 15:19 -0800 12/2/99, Jason Tors wrote: >ikue mori is not the designer for Tzadik. The designer is a japanese woman, >her name escapes me, look on the first naked city album, her name is >printed there. I searched the web for some info on her but all I came up >with was some scans of the naked city artwork. > > >hello zornlist, > >h > > i have to do a report on 3 modern illustrators for a graphic design > >course that i am enrolled in. i was wondering if anyone could help me out > >with finding some info on ikue mori's design work, like the covers she does > >for Tzadik...? all i am finding on the net is about her music. i'd really > >like to incorperate her into the paper, but i don't know if that will be > >possible unless i find a great deal more of this sort of information... > >would it be a good idea to contact Tzadik via email as well? > > well, if anyone has any links or anything, i'd really apreciate it. > >thanks in advance.. > > > >p.s. i'm also hoping to cover Winston Smith, who did many cover designs for > >the Dead Kennedys and other AT artists & t-shirts, etc... anyone have any > >info on him either? i've found some, but i'm guessing the majority could > >only be found in one of the books AT is selling, which i have neither the > >money for right now, or the time to wait for shipping.. > > > >______________________________________________________ > >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > >- > > >- - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 12:14:23 -0800 From: "Patrice L. Roussel" Subject: Re: ikue mori and design On Thu, 2 Dec 1999 15:19:19 -0800 Jason Tors wrote: > > ikue mori is not the designer for Tzadik. The designer is a japanese woman, > her name escapes me, look on the first naked city album, her name is > printed there. I searched the web for some info on her but all I came up > with was some scans of the naked city artwork. Although Ikue is not the graphic designer for *ALL* Tzadik releases, she is the one for the vast majority of them (unless the credit should read as "executive designer" :-). The woman you are talking about was responsible for the most outrageous graphic designs from Zorn's record on Avant, but it was a while back. Patrice. - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 15:17:29 -0500 From: Dan Hewins Subject: Re: ikue mori and design Also, If memory serves me correctly, the first Naked City record isn't on Tzadik anyway. Isn't the designer of Naked City Radio Karath=Razar? Interesting... Is the person doing the report planning on talking about Stephen Byram at all? Dan Hewins At 3:12 PM -0500 12/2/99, Matthew Ross Davis wrote: >If you'll look inside many of Zorn's CDs released on Tzadik, you'll >find that Ikue Mori is indeed the designer. Circle Maker is one that >comes to mind immediately, but I know a lot of what he (as opposed >to other artists on the label) has released includes her artwork. > >At 15:19 -0800 12/2/99, Jason Tors wrote: >>ikue mori is not the designer for Tzadik. The designer is a japanese woman, >>her name escapes me, look on the first naked city album, her name is >>printed there. I searched the web for some info on her but all I came up >>with was some scans of the naked city artwork. >> >> >hello zornlist, >> >h >> > i have to do a report on 3 modern illustrators for a graphic design >> >course that i am enrolled in. i was wondering if anyone could help me out >> >with finding some info on ikue mori's design work, like the covers she does >> >for Tzadik...? all i am finding on the net is about her music. i'd really >> >like to incorperate her into the paper, but i don't know if that will be >> >possible unless i find a great deal more of this sort of information... >> >would it be a good idea to contact Tzadik via email as well? >> > well, if anyone has any links or anything, i'd really apreciate it. >> >thanks in advance.. >> > >> >p.s. i'm also hoping to cover Winston Smith, who did many cover designs for >> >the Dead Kennedys and other AT artists & t-shirts, etc... anyone have any >> >info on him either? i've found some, but i'm guessing the majority could >> >only be found in one of the books AT is selling, which i have neither the >> >money for right now, or the time to wait for shipping.. >> > >> >______________________________________________________ >> >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >> > >> >- >> >> >>- > > >- - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 15:31:23 -0800 From: Jason Tors Subject: Re: ikue mori and design I stand corrected, I guess I was thinking that the illustrator and the designer were one person. >If you'll look inside many of Zorn's CDs released on Tzadik, you'll >find that Ikue Mori is indeed the designer. Circle Maker is one that >comes to mind immediately, but I know a lot of what he (as opposed to >other artists on the label) has released includes her artwork. > >At 15:19 -0800 12/2/99, Jason Tors wrote: >>ikue mori is not the designer for Tzadik. The designer is a japanese woman, >>her name escapes me, look on the first naked city album, her name is >>printed there. I searched the web for some info on her but all I came up >>with was some scans of the naked city artwork. >> >> >hello zornlist, >> >h >> > i have to do a report on 3 modern illustrators for a graphic design >> >course that i am enrolled in. i was wondering if anyone could help me out >> >with finding some info on ikue mori's design work, like the covers she does >> >for Tzadik...? all i am finding on the net is about her music. i'd really >> >like to incorperate her into the paper, but i don't know if that will be >> >possible unless i find a great deal more of this sort of information... >> >would it be a good idea to contact Tzadik via email as well? >> > well, if anyone has any links or anything, i'd really apreciate it. >> >thanks in advance.. >> > >> >p.s. i'm also hoping to cover Winston Smith, who did many cover designs for >> >the Dead Kennedys and other AT artists & t-shirts, etc... anyone have any >> >info on him either? i've found some, but i'm guessing the majority could >> >only be found in one of the books AT is selling, which i have neither the >> >money for right now, or the time to wait for shipping.. >> > >> >______________________________________________________ >> >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >> > >> >- >> >> >>- > > >- - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 15:27:26 EST From: DRoyko@aol.com Subject: Part, Reed In a message dated 99-12-02 10:15:59 EST, you write: >i was wondering if anyone had any favourite Part discs they would >recommen. i liked Arbos quite a bit when i got it from a library at uni >ages ago. i have since acquired de Profundis, but i think i still prefer >what i remember of Arbos. My favorite is the first one that ECM issued, Tabula Rasa. I've never warmed up to Passio (I get bored with it), to give you a little frame of reference. And that Lou Reed 2-LP thing from the '70s was titled Metal Machine Music. I think he actually recorded/released it with tongue in cheek, as opposed to seeing it as any kind of "serious" music. The fact that it came out on a major label certainly points to he changes in the music biz! Dave Royko - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 15:32:03 -0500 From: Maurice Rickard Subject: Re: ikue mori and design At 3:17 PM -0500 12/2/99, Dan Hewins wrote: > >Is the person doing the report planning on talking about Stephen Byram at all? > I'm not the person doing the report, but I'm listening to Paraphrase's _Please Advise_ right now. I love Tim Berne's playing, and this is such a good band. And Byram's artwork is a joy--with the tortured typography and the impassioned scrawling, it's like design brought back from another dimension. Maurice Rickard | "Multimedia will never go anywhere Designer | until the amateurs take over." http://www.envirolink.org/maurice | --David Thomas - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 12:34:11 PST From: "robert ludington" Subject: Re: ikue mori and design >>ikue mori is not the designer for Tzadik. The designer is a japanese >>woman, >her name escapes me, look on the first naked city album, her name is >printed there. I searched the web for some info on her but all I cameup >with was some scans of the naked city artwork. are you refering to Tomoyo Tanaka Lee? she is the artist Zorn gives props to on the Buried Secrets/Guts of a Virgin re-release for her work on teh Painkiller albums, but i'm positive that Ikue is the artist who did teh cover for derek bailey & the ruins, death praxis, and a few other tzadik releases... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 12:47:48 PST From: "robert ludington" Subject: Re: ikue mori and design >>Is the person doing the report planning on talking about Stephen >>Byram >>at all? >I'm not the person doing the report, but I'm listening to Paraphrase's >_Please Advise_ right now. I love Tim Berne's playing, and this is such a >good band. And Byram's artwork is a joy--with the >tortured typography and the impassioned scrawling, it's like design brought >back from another dimension. he is the designer for the Screwgun releases? yes, i thought about doing a segement on him, but i know i'll run into the same problem with finding biographical information... the paper is just suposed to be about 3 modern, and one pre-1920 illustrators/grahpic designers. but i thought it would be interesting to do album cover designers, and more unknown ones at that(seeing as 3 people are already doing geiger, and that person who did the Yes album covers(gee, my ignorance of art really shines thru eh?)) but yeah, i'll agree, Screwgun has the some of the most imaginative/attractive packaging out there. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ End of Zorn List Digest V2 #805 ******************************* To unsubscribe from zorn-list-digest, send an email to "majordomo@lists.xmission.com" with "unsubscribe zorn-list-digest" in the body of the message. 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