From: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (Zorn List Digest) To: zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: Zorn List Digest V2 #853 Reply-To: zorn-list Sender: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Zorn List Digest Wednesday, February 9 2000 Volume 02 : Number 853 In this issue: - RE: Zorny Entertainment / Tzadik Covers Re: loft scene reissues oops tiny bell trio "constellations" Re: tiny bell trio "constellations" Re: Zorny Entertainment / Tzadik Covers zorny entertainment Django Eyvind Trane Loft stuff/Sun City Girls RE: Zorny Entertainment / Tzadik Covers Re: Zorny Entertainment / Tzadik Covers more on the Taboo pic Re: Django Eyvind Trane Re: more on the Taboo pic knit classics brad shepik and the commuters kenny Re: brad shepik and the commuters zeena parkins info eBay auctions ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 17:22:18 -0800 (PST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?A?= Subject: RE: Zorny Entertainment / Tzadik Covers Yes!!! I thought I was the only freak who spent endless minutes removing stickers from the CD shrinkwraps really carefully and sticked them to the case!!! Itīs sad only Tzadik and Relapse records do the CD-jacket thing...I think they look neat. A __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 21:35:55 -0500 From: Steve Smith Subject: Re: loft scene reissues Dante Sawyer wrote: > does anyone know of any other loft-era CD reissues > that have been released within the past year? Not a reissue but a first-time issue of a chunk of unknown latter day left music... drummer Todd Capp recently issued a recording of his own music from 1978 with a group called the Improvising Orchestra. Ray Anderson, William Parker and Rashid Bakr are in the group, as are a number of notable unknowns and where-are-they-nows - trumpeter Arthur Williams (disappeared), saxophonist James Lott (playing gospel in Atlanta), guitarist Kim Starner (a monstrous shredder now playing bouzouki in restaurants in Greece), percussionist Augustus Goertz (a visual artist who remains lurking around the periphery of the scene). Capp was a participant in the loft scene and the CBGBs scene as well, but left music in 1983 (to become a successful art gallery operator in the East Village) and is only just coming back, encouraged by Stephanie Stone (one of the leading audients of the downtown scene since Ayler was playing the Vanguard) and emboldened by the Vision Festival. I wrote the liner notes for the first CD, self-released on the Lucky Tiger imprint, then had a bit of a personal conflict with Capp and took my name off the disc (I think they still got used... a bit of an "Alan Smithee" job, I guess). Nevertheless, there's some outstanding music on it, and Kim Starner, were he still around, would be a major player on the Knit scene... his playing on this session borrows from Sharrock but also anticipates elements of the styles of Thurston Moore, Tronzo, Sharp, even Frisell. (Did I mention that he's now playing restaurant gigs in Athens?) Downtown Music Gallery carries the disc - it was in a recent DMG newsletter. And when last I spoke with Capp he had more tapes in the works, including one with an intense version of Coltrane's "Reverend King." He's got some great stories, too. One of his first sessions while he lived in Chicago in the '60s included Roscoe Mitchell, Lester Bowie, Elvin Bishop and Arthur "Big Boy" Crudup. The mind fairly reels... He also played drums for one of Tim Berne's first-ever New York gigs, on the traffic island in TriBeCa where you get off the 1/9 trains to go to Roulette. Meryl Streep was in the "audience." Steve Smith ssmith36@sprynet.com NP - Nels Cline, "Peacemaker," 'The Music of Eric von Essen, Vol. 1' (Cryptogramophone) - various artists tribute to late West Coast bassist - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 21:31:34 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Pratt Subject: oops Sorry, I sent that last message to the wrong list. -Tom Pratt __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 18:05:50 +1100 From: "Julian" Subject: tiny bell trio "constellations" Is the Dave Douglas/Tiny Bell Trio album "Constellations" available anywhere anymore? - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 02:16:35 EST From: JonAbbey2@aol.com Subject: Re: tiny bell trio "constellations" In a message dated 2/8/00 2:09:59 AM, jcurwin@hartingdale.com.au writes: << Is the Dave Douglas/Tiny Bell Trio album "Constellations" available anywhere anymore? >> don't know, but Hat Art plans to reissue it fairly soon according to their web site (www.hathut.com). Jon www.erstwhilerecords.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 03:35:26 EST From: Dgasque@aol.com Subject: Re: Zorny Entertainment / Tzadik Covers In a message dated 2/7/00 11:45:03 AM Eastern Standard Time, jzitt@metatronpress.com writes: << For those that are too large (such as the music/romance series with their additional outer sleeves, or the double-disc such as Lacrosse), I've found that they fit inserted sideways into the packaging. >> Aren't they called OBI sleeves? Anyway, being the "pack rat" and one who keeps every sticker and insert that comes in a CD, i've always kept them as above. The tough ones to keep are the ones that fit across the *top* of the CD's jewel box. Never found a way to store them other than folding them in half and inserting them in the CD booklet. To take this a step further...does anyone put the CD booklet in backwards, so that it's easier to remove and prevents the ends of the pages from getting frayed? - -- spinning: Die Anarchistische Abendunterhaltung- We Need New Animals =dg= - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 09:12:07 -0500 From: "Bob Kowalski" Subject: zorny entertainment ... Just out of curiosity, does anyone have any fun/practical use for those "CD-Jackets" that come on every Tzadik Disc? After buying the disc, that is.... - slip 'em in cd cover for future generations - collect 'em all and trade in for a large fries at participating' = dealers - w/ cardboard, glue and scissors make a collage - use to wrap incredibly small birthday / holiday gifts - insert randomly into utility bills, rent check envelope, letters to = relatives - make paper hats for Barbie and Ken - tape together for way cool book jackets Happy listening & Have a blast ! Bob=20 - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 10:45:00 -0500 From: kurt_gottschalk@scni.com Subject: Django Eyvind Trane Ribot's Django project (which includes Eyvind -- who is male, btw -- in the Grapelli role) has been booked a half-dozen or so times at the Knit. Many, maybe all, of those times, another project was substituted. I'm not sure if it has ever actually been performed. Margo Red wants Trane recs. Call me a sap, but "A Love Supreme" is really the locus, if not the best. I'd say get that first. "Kulu Se Mama", "Expression", "Interstellar Space" and "Live at the Village Vanguard Again" are my faves, but you'll have to determine if you want to go forward (more free) or backward (more standard) from 1965. If you're looking to spend money, get the compete Live at the Village Vanguard box (which doesn't include the "Again" disc mentioned above). kg - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 11:04:17 EST From: Nervenet@aol.com Subject: Loft stuff/Sun City Girls Dante wrote: << does anyone know of any other loft-era CD reissues that have been released within the past year?>> Don't know if you count '82 and '83 as "loft era" (maybe "post-loft era"?) but this seems like as good an excuse as any to mention that the label About Time has just reissued Henry Threadgill Sextett's "When Was That?" and "Just the Facts and Pass the Bucket." Both are great. Also, I'm passing along a plea for a friend who's looking for some Sun City Girls material that he's having trouble finding. I figured if anyone had the items or a line on how to get them it'd be this bunch. He's looking for these releases: "Jacks Creek," "Dulce," "Juggernaut," "New Sessions People," "Songs From Days Gone By." If anyone has these and is willing to sell at a reasonable price (which is for him to determine, so don't ask me what i mean by that) or knows where he might be able to acquire them, please contact me off-list. Thanks in advance for your help, Patrick M. Brown Nervenet@aol.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 09:12:30 -0700 From: "Matthew W Wirzbicki (S) " Subject: RE: Zorny Entertainment / Tzadik Covers >The tough ones to keep are the ones that fit across the *top* of >the >CD's jewel box. Never found a way to store them other than folding them >in >half and inserting them in the CD booklet. I might suggest taking the black plastic section out and putting the little piece of consumer joy between the back cover insert and the black plastic CD holding device. >To take this a step further...does anyone put the CD booklet in >backwards, so >that it's easier to remove and prevents the ends of the pages from >getting >frayed? This significantly alters the aesthetics of the cover, yes? I'd compromise the frayed edges in most cases. Matt - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 13:11:05 EST From: Dgasque@aol.com Subject: Re: Zorny Entertainment / Tzadik Covers In a message dated 2/8/00 11:14:24 AM Eastern Standard Time, M_WIRZBICKI@ColoradoCollege.edu writes: << >To take this a step further...does anyone put the CD booklet in >backwards, so >that it's easier to remove and prevents the ends of the pages from >getting >frayed? This significantly alters the aesthetics of the cover, yes? I'd compromise the frayed edges in most cases. >> Heh...it does indeed- but I'm usually looking at the spine when it comes to any display. It's much easier to remove this way, also. - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 16:59:27 EST From: JonAbbey2@aol.com Subject: more on the Taboo pic so, I saw the Taboo picture today for the first time, and I personally don't have much of a problem with it. something I heard today (which is definitely true) might interest people here: the printing plant which Tzadik uses refused to assemble these CDs, so they had to be put together by employees of the label one at a time. Jon www.erstwhilerecords.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 19:41:32 -0700 From: "Tom Johnson" Subject: Re: Django Eyvind Trane For Coltrane fans, the only way to go is the Classic Quartet - Complete Impulse Studio Recordings. I went from owning a single best-of to this beautiful box set and haven't regretted the expense yet. Find some coupons for some of the online shops and buy it when they have their 30% off sales, you just can't beat that deal. I didn't realize "Live at the Village Vanguard Again" was NOT a part of the Vanguard boxset. Damn, another thing I have to buy! Tom - ---------------------------- "It wasn't a squeak, it was the sound of cheese being cut." --Bill, on Freaks & Geeks "I don't want to sell anything, buy anything, or process anything as a career. I don't want to sell anything bought or processed, or buy anything sold or processed, or process anything sold, bought, or processed, or repair anything sold, bought, or processed. You know, as a career, I don't want to do that." --Lloyd, from Say Anything - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2000 8:45 AM Subject: Django Eyvind Trane > > Ribot's Django project (which includes Eyvind -- who is male, btw -- in the > Grapelli role) has been booked a half-dozen or so times at the Knit. Many, maybe > all, of those times, another project was substituted. I'm not sure if it has > ever actually been performed. > > Margo Red wants Trane recs. Call me a sap, but "A Love Supreme" is really the > locus, if not the best. I'd say get that first. "Kulu Se Mama", "Expression", > "Interstellar Space" and "Live at the Village Vanguard Again" are my faves, but > you'll have to determine if you want to go forward (more free) or backward (more > standard) from 1965. If you're looking to spend money, get the compete Live at > the Village Vanguard box (which doesn't include the "Again" disc mentioned > above). > > kg > > > > - > - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 19:45:32 -0700 From: "Tom Johnson" Subject: Re: more on the Taboo pic I'm surprised with all this talk about the artwork that no one has pointed out the facial expression of the little girl on the cover. It's completely expressionless. Very creepy. Somewhere in the expression of that little girl is the reason Zorn used it in the first place. That's some powerful stuff. Tom - ---------------------------- "It wasn't a squeak, it was the sound of cheese being cut." --Bill, on Freaks & Geeks "I don't want to sell anything, buy anything, or process anything as a career. I don't want to sell anything bought or processed, or buy anything sold or processed, or process anything sold, bought, or processed, or repair anything sold, bought, or processed. You know, as a career, I don't want to do that." --Lloyd, from Say Anything - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2000 2:59 PM Subject: more on the Taboo pic > so, I saw the Taboo picture today for the first time, and I personally don't > have much of a problem with it. something I heard today (which is definitely > true) might interest people here: the printing plant which Tzadik uses > refused to assemble these CDs, so they had to be put together by employees of > the label one at a time. > > Jon > www.erstwhilerecords.com > > - > > - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 10:34:00 -0500 From: kurt_gottschalk@scni.com Subject: knit classics someone was asking about knitting factory reissues of recordings from the loft scene. here's the first batch, according to bruce at dmg. i'm impressed. 32.RASHIED ALI QUINTET - s/t (Knit classics 3021) w/ James Blood Ulmer, Bob Ralston, Earl Cross, John Dana & Trane's final drummer - Rashied Ali! '73 - $14. 33.RASHIED ALI & FRANK LOWE - "Duo Exchange" (KC 3020) heavy sax/drums duo! $14. 34.RASHIED ALI & LEROY JENKINS - Swift are the Winds of Life (KC 3026)Yeah! $14. 35.RASHIED ALI QUARTET - New Directions in Modern Music (KC 3022) w/ Carlos Ward, Fred Simmons, Stafford James & Rashied! More cosmic blowing!! $14. 36.RASHIED ALI QUARTET/QUINTET - Moon Flight (KC 3023) w/ Jimmy Vass & Marvin Blackman on saxes, Charles Eubanks on piano & Benny Wilson on bass;powerful $14. 37.JOE LEE WILSON - What Would it be Without You (KC 3024) Heart-warming jazz vocalist & old friend of mine, who always touched his audience deeply with his resonant voice! Sadly, he has nothing in print, so help yourself!! $14. - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 11:00:29 -0500 From: Jason Tors Subject: brad shepik and the commuters went to go see [what I now know to be the commuters] last night at the internet cafe. brad has dropped seido on percussion and added the bass player from the screaming headless torsos. Mike sarin is totally opened up to the full perc range, brad is so much better, not to mention that peter epstein never ceases to amaze me with his playing. They have a new album out, not yet in stores, it is called the well, they dropped the commuters as a title, now it is just brad shepik. The players are brad shepik, peter epstein, skuli, mike sarin, and seido. I am listening to it right now and it sounds like they dropped the fusion element of the first album, but it is still not as "in the tradition" as pachora. speaking of... pachora is playing at the den [under two boots pizza on ave a] on saturday. Brad was telling me there is a heavy balkan thing happening there every thursday. I am looking for more of this balkan [middleastern] jazz, I have to check out paradox trio, but any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated. - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 15:41:55 -0500 From: Jason Tors Subject: kenny I have a bet with my roommate as to how old kenny wollesen is. I say he is younger than 36 and he says that he is 36 or older. searched all over the web for the answer with no luck. I have a brew at stake, can someone help me? - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 21:18:45 -0000 From: "ian r watson" Subject: Re: brad shepik and the commuters you may already know it but I have a nice disc under the name Babkas......"Ants to the moon" songlines SGL 1505-2 according to the sleeve......Briggan Krauss...alto Aaron Alexander....drums Brad Schoeppach.....guitar recorded NYC Feb 1994 > went to go see [what I now know to be the commuters] last night at > the internet cafe. brad has dropped seido on percussion and added the > bass player from the screaming headless torsos. Mike sarin is totally > opened up to the full perc range, brad is so much better, not to > mention that peter epstein never ceases to amaze me with his playing. > > They have a new album out, not yet in stores, it is called the well, > they dropped the commuters as a title, now it is just brad shepik. > The players are brad shepik, peter epstein, skuli, mike sarin, and > seido. I am listening to it right now and it sounds like they dropped > the fusion element of the first album, but it is still not as "in the > tradition" as pachora. > > speaking of... > > pachora is playing at the den [under two boots pizza on ave a] on saturday. > Brad was telling me there is a heavy balkan thing happening there > every thursday. > > I am looking for more of this balkan [middleastern] jazz, I have to > check out paradox trio, but any other suggestions would be greatly > appreciated. > > - > > - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 19:35:18 -0500 (EST) From: Ethan Subject: zeena parkins info hello, does anyone have any contact or booking info for zeena parkins? ethan http://transmit.org - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 06:02:47 GMT From: "chris hanley" Subject: eBay auctions Hello, I have the following CDs up for auction on eBay: Naked City's "Torture Garden" and "Leng Tch'e" 2cd set on Tzadik Pharoah Sanders "Pharoah's First" CD (on ESP!) Ken Vandermark/Joe Morris/Hans Poppel "Like Rays" "All is Full of Love" by Bjork remixed by Funkstorung The Carl Stalling Project Vol. 2 Junk Genius S/T CD Robert Wyatt "Mid Eighties" CD (OOP!) Arto Lindsay "Hyper Civilizado" Ornette Coleman and Joachim Kuhn "Colors" and more jazz, indie rock/punk, electronica, and even a couple country-western items! To see the whole list, go to eBay at www.ebay.com, go to their search page, and enter haiu@hotmail.com under "Seller". ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ End of Zorn List Digest V2 #853 ******************************* To unsubscribe from zorn-list-digest, send an email to "majordomo@lists.xmission.com" with "unsubscribe zorn-list-digest" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. 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