From: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (Zorn List Digest) To: zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: Zorn List Digest V2 #882 Reply-To: zorn-list Sender: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Zorn List Digest Wednesday, March 8 2000 Volume 02 : Number 882 In this issue: - Re: jim black / tiny bell trio Re: jim black tW re: Odp: dave douglas sextet (plus clapping and drummers) Re: Cooper-Moore re: Cooper-Moore november music Re: jim black Re: The Cure- Bloodflowers re: jim black & cooper-moore Contrabass viol; Msr. Han Bennik Re: jim black Boycotting Schubert? RE: jim black.. Horvitz/Delbecq/Shepik new releases Re: standing ovations ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 08:15:45 -0600 (CST) From: Whit Schonbein Subject: Re: jim black / tiny bell trio i second the reccommendation for dave douglas' tiny bell trio as a good place to hear jim black's work. my favorite disc is 'constellations', on hatart, followed by 'songs for wandering souls' on winter&winter, the first album on songlines (i think), and lastly, the 'live in europe' on arabesque (i think). (ranking subject to change without notice ;). whit - ------------------------------------------ - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 09:20:29 -0500 From: Jason Tors Subject: Re: jim black Pachora is a good start, I am into the third one [ast?] and another side of his playing on any recording by Tim Berne's act, Bloodcount. >what's a good recording to start with that has jim black on drums? >i love the new dave douglas cd, so maybe i should start with a DD cd with >jim on it. >any thoughts or suggestions? > >how about han bennink recordings that are "must haves"? > >craig > > >- - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 09:31:28 -0500 From: Jason Tors Subject: tW Tom Waits Digest News Feed The Official Tom Waits Web Site ====================================================================== ================ Remember, you may not reply to this message. If you have problems with this listserv, please contact Seth Nielsen (snielsen@airmail.net). ====================================================================== ================ As most of you have heard now, Tom Waits was nominated for Best Male Rock Vocal Performance for 'Hold On' and Best Contemporary Folk Album for 'Mule Variations'. I actually missed the Grammy Awards show, but he did win for Best Contemporary Folk Album. I don't put much stake in the Grammys but it is nice to get his name mentioned. I have also found that Tom Waits appears on a little known album called 'Moanin' Parade: The Gatmo Sessions Vol. 1' recorded by C-Side and Petit Mal. This album is a studio recording of improvisations with experimental and traditional instruments. Tom Waits is on all tracks on this album as well as the follow-up album 'Swarm Warnings' which is yet to be released. C-Side (California Sonic Instrument Designers Ensemble) includes Bart Hopkin, Darrell Devore, Richard Waters and Tom Nunn. Petit Mal includes Richard Waters, Gary Knowlton and Michael Knowlton. Other guest musicians include Steve Shain, Tom Dondelinger, Doug Carroll, Bob B. Hobbs and Chris Saunders. For more information and to hear two of the tracks, please visit Jackalope Records at www.jackaloperecords.com. As always, if you prefer not to get these news updates, please send an e-mail to waitsdigest-request@innovativestudios.com with LEAVE in the message body. Sorry for the long delay. I also hope to be updating the site more regularly again. It has been a very interesting time for me. Best of luck, Seth Nielsen ====================================================================== ================ Tom Waits Digest News Feed The Official Tom Waits Web Site ====================================================================== ================ - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 10:11:30 -0500 From: Mark Saleski Subject: re: Odp: dave douglas sextet (plus clapping and drummers) have to agree about q&a. haynes is wonderful on that recording. i saw him play in boston with metheny a few years back. the man was in great shape and his playing was spectacular. speaking of spectacular... i saw the metheny trio a few nights ago in boston (really, somerville ma.) and have to put in a good mention for bill stewart. i always was always impressed with his work with scofield but never had a chance to see him live. man, he was just smokin'. the interplay between him, larry grenadier, and metheny was nearly telepathic. stewart's playing was very musical, muscular and _loud_! reminded me a little of joey baron. >Joey's incredible. Other great soloist is Roy Haynes (see >Metheny/Holland/Haynes "q&a" - one of the best jazz albums - and the guy was >about 80 years old when he recorded it!). - -- Mark Saleski - marks@foliage.com Do not try to understand everything, lest you thereby be ignorant of everything. --Democritus - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 10:20:20 -0500 (EST) From: Ken Waxman Subject: Re: Cooper-Moore Cooper has been playing on and off with Parker (initially with David S. Ware and Marc Edwards) for years. He also composes for theatre groups and choirs and plays other instrumets such as diddley-bow and horizontal harp. He is part of the Susie Ibarra Trio that has a CD on Hopscotch. A CD on his solo piano performance at the Guelph Jazz Festival should be released by Hoscotch in a couple of months. Ken Waxman On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, Matt Teichman wrote: > Does anyone have any background info on this Cooper-Moore character that > plays with William Parker/In Order to Survive? He's AMAZING! > - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 10:45:25 -0500 From: kurt_gottschalk@scni.com Subject: re: Cooper-Moore First off, I'm very, very pleased to see that Cooper and William Parker are playing together in a Bill Cole group at the Vision Festival in May. Cooper-Moore is a fantastic, engaging performer. He's a great pianist, as evidenced by In Order to Survive records that were mentioned in a previous post. But playing piano is just one of his roles. He's an instrument maker, and his assortment of stringed and bowed instruments (the diddley-bo, the twanger, the homemade hoe-handle harp) are simplistic, inventive and, more importantly, sound good. Those instruments can be heard on the Susie Ibarra Trio disc (with Charles Burnham, violin) on Hopscotch. Hopscotch should have a solo Cooper-Moore disc coming out soon as well. If you're fortunate enough to catch him play a solo set (he did one at the Brecht Forum last year, following a set by the Organic Trio -- Parker, Moore, Daniel Carter), you'll likely see him as a storyteller as well -- long, funny, well-told tales of growing up black in the south, playing in an r'n'b band and keeping a knife out on the keyboard. At the Brecht Forum he brought up a dancer and they did a piece together and then he explained, to the dancer's surprise, that they were going to do something called "Puzzlin'" where the performers interview each other. It went on for quite a long time, was very funny and consistently interesting. He's also one of the warmest people I know. I don't know a whole lot about his jazz background. I should ask him sometime. But he did tell me that he had been offered a record contract by a big label in the 70s, but hated the way he was treated, not being allowed to make choices (he wanted his record to be free and the release party to be at a soup kitchen, he told me, so frustrations might well have been on both sides). Since that experience, he's refused to record until Susie Ibarra and Assif Tsahar started their label. He'll be doing the following sets at the Vision Fest in New York: > TUESDAY MAY 23 >* Bill Cole w. William Parker, Cooper-Moore, Joseph Daley, > Atticus Cole, Sam Furnace, Warren Smith, Tracie Morris poet > THURSDAY MAY 25 >* Cooper Moore Choir "From the Sea" > w Sharon Heller, Jane Gabriels, Lisa Sokolov, Tiye Giraud, Aleta Hayes, > Ayana Lowe, Bruce Mack, Michael Wimberly, Fred L. Price I believe I posted the entire schedule, but if anyone wants it, email me privately. Cheers, kg - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 11:59:14 -0500 From: Dante Sawyer Subject: november music does anyone know if november music in belgium is still going on? and if it is how to get in touch with someone involved? dante - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 12:42:47 -0500 From: Nils Subject: Re: jim black neongreen7 wrote: > what's a good recording to start with that has jim black on drums? bloodcount: unwound (screwgun) a personal favorite. 3-disc live set. and while i'm at it, let me offer a self-promoting reference to my jim black interview/feature at all about jazz: http://www.allaboutjazz.com/articles/a0599_06.htm which may provide some interesting information for the curious. hasta nils - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 19:18:59 +0100 From: patRice Subject: Re: The Cure- Bloodflowers hi y'all i know i'm rather late on this topic, but so what... Todd Bramy wrote: > > > >i found myself agreeing with aquarius' review. > >as a longtime cure fan, it was disappointing. > >but certainly far better than their previous effort. i'd agree on this. the album as a whole is definitely better than "wild mood swings"; though there were some great songs on that as well. > Alternately, I too am a career-spanning fan, and I find the new album to be > a masterful return to form. I've seen it written that the album is the > third in a trilogy that started with "Pornography" and >"Disintigration", an > observation I would agree with. i'm also a career-spanning fan, and do not agree at all. "pornography" and "disintegration" are just too perfect. "bloodflowers" doesn't come anywhere near them. especially since the drummer sucks big time. i feel they could have done a lot better if they'd had a better drummer. he drags the quality of the songs way down... the trilogy thing was a marketing plot by robert smith. i must admit that i would feel a little sad if the cure split up (which seems to be very likely right now), but at the same time i feel that that would be the best possible move. robert smith has done everything he possibly can with this band (though i'm sure he could still write a lot of interesting stuff for other people or another group), and any further release can only de-mistify this cult band. being a fan i hope that this wont happen; because so far they've done pretty well! yours, patRice - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 13:29:51 -0500 From: "Joslyn Layne" Subject: re: jim black & cooper-moore > what's a good recording to start with that has jim black on drums? > i love the new dave douglas cd, so maybe i should start with a DD cd with > jim on it. > any thoughts or suggestions? As Jeroen said, Douglas' Tiny Bell Trio.. i have to admit, though, that [for me] none of their recordings live up to the group's live performance -- but this is just a compliment on their live shows, not a dis on the CDs.. I Strongly Recommend the Eskelin/Parkins/Black trio!! you'll find them on Hat. they just get better & better, so i guess i'd have to recommend the latest, "5 Pieces (+2)." > how about han bennink recordings that are "must haves"? Clusone Trio, "i am an indian" and/or "love henry" w/ cellist Ernst Reijseger & reeds man Michael Moore - -and- Myra Melford/Han Bennink "eleven ghosts" [hatology] [icp orchestra is g-reat, but a large group, so if you're looking to hear lots of han..] > From: Matt Teichman > Subject: Cooper-Moore > Does anyone have any background info on this Cooper-Moore character that > plays with William Parker/In Order to Survive? He's AMAZING! Agreed.. be sure to check him out on the recent Susie Ibarra Trio [w/ violinist Charles Burnham]. it's called "Radiance" & is on her own label, hopscotch. really lovely disc. as for 'who is he?' : i believe he used to be named Gene Ashton. Regardless, Cooper-Moore has led his own quartet & played at NYC's Vision Fest the last 3 yrs running and had a solo set at Guelph Festival [canada] last year.. he's a multi-instrumentalist & composer, builds his own wacky instruments.. he's in Parker's Little Huey Orch and In Order to Survive and the Organic Trio w/ Parker and Daniel Carter [TEST], and has also played with David S. Ware, Alan Braufman, and the George Carver Band... cheers- joslyn - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 10:26:15 -0800 From: Martin_Wisckol@link.freedom.com Subject: Contrabass viol; Msr. Han Bennik I find the bass soloing of Mark Dresser exceedingly pleasant. Indeed, capable of sustaining my extended interest. As for the good Mr. Bennik, all three of the Clusone 3 continue to delight me to no end. Martin np Satoko Fujii Orchestra - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 21:48:11 +0100 From: Shlomo Weintraub Subject: Re: jim black there is a german free jazz band called "DER ROTE BEREICH". They have recorded 3 albums. Jim Black played on their first two albums, called "de= r rote bereich" and "der rote bereich 2". the first album features Rudi Mah= all on bassclarinet, Frank M=F6bus on guitar, Henning Sieverts on Bass and Ma= rty Cook on trombone, the second album features Rudi Mahall on bassclarinet, Frank M=F6bus on guitar and Hal Crook on trombone. On their last release = a guy called John Schr=F6der plays drums ( and again Rudi Mahall on bassclarine= t and Frank M=F6bus on guitar). The third is called (guess what..) "der rote be= reich 3". Very nice KRONKEL-music... Has anyone out there on the zorn-list ever listed to the Nils Wogram quartett? another great german avant-jazz band.= .. neongreen7 schrieb: > what's a good recording to start with that has jim black on drums? > i love the new dave douglas cd, so maybe i should start with a DD cd wi= th > jim on it. > any thoughts or suggestions? > > how about han bennink recordings that are "must haves"? > > craig > > - - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 16:43:18 -0500 From: kurt_gottschalk@scni.com Subject: Boycotting Schubert? Boycotting Schubert? (Washn) By Joseph McLellan Special to The Washington Post WASHINGTON - An organized campaign to boycott Austrian cultural activities has grown up since Joerg Haider's Freedom Party became a member of the country's coalition government. But several presenters in Washington have decided not to accept the connection between Austrian politics and Austrian culture implied in that campaign. Jerome Barry, director of the popular Embassy Series of chamber music concerts, announced that his organization's performances at the Austrian Embassy will be given as scheduled on March 31 and April 1. Gloria Thompson, founder and director of the Schubert, Schubert and Schubert Festival at Georgetown University, reported that some contributors have been asked - and have declined - to withdraw their support. - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 17:30:17 EST From: Orangejazz@aol.com Subject: RE: jim black.. the best Jim Black i've heard, besides live, is probably his work with Tim Berne's Bloodcount, especially on Discretion...very powerful. from, matt - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 14:57:46 -0800 From: Tony Reif Subject: Horvitz/Delbecq/Shepik new releases Some new releases from Songlines (and if it makes things easier our website is finally set up for credit card sales): WAYNE HORVITZ, American Bandstand (SGL 1528-2) with Timothy Young (guitars), Keith Lowe (acoustic bass), Andy Roth (drums) With Zony Mash "unplugged" - Horvitz's first piano record since 1987's Nine Below Zero. Impressionistic ballads that might recall Paul Bley, Ellington/Strayhorn, Debussy, or the wistful and piquant irony of Satie, blend with mid-tempo songs likewise steeped in the history of jazz, r&b/r&r, soul, funk, blues, gospel, & the avant-garde. A chamber-jazz homage to musical roots...an open-hearted yet serenely beautiful record. Publisher's pick of the week, All About Jazz (www.allaboutjazz.com) BENOIT DELBECQ 5, Pursuit (SGL 1529-2) with Fran=E7ois Houle (clarinet), Michael Moore (reeds), Jean-Jacques Avenel (acoustic bass), Steve Arg=FCelles (drums & electronics) One the most innovative young keyboardists & composers of the '90s has forged a personal approach from jazz, ambient, contemporary classical, and non-western musics. His playing on prepared piano reveals fugitive harmonies and a rich palette of colors and phrasings. Polyphonic rhythmic-melodic "fabrics" suggest balafon, sanza, pygmy music, gamelan, or John Cage. His new international quintet creates a collective music with the shape-shifting, mutatating quality of a waking dream, a feeling augmented by Arg=FCelles' stealthy live sampling and processing. Previous release: Fran=E7ois Houle/Beno=EEt Delbecq, Nancali (SGL 1519-2) CHOC (5 stars), Jazzman feature review Disque d'emoi, Jazz Magazine Release date March 14: BRAD SHEPIK, The Well (SGL 1531-2) with Peter Epstein (saxes), Skuli Sverrisson (electric bass), Michael Sarin (drums & percussion), Seido Salifoski (dumbek & percussion) The follow-up to his critically acclaimed The Loan (SGL 1518-2) finds guitarist/saz player Shepik (Tiny Bell Trio, Pachora, BABKAS) deeper in the music of the Balkans, Middle East, and North Africa and deeper in his own style - driving or insinuating grooves and melodies in compound time signatures, with subtle group interplay, effortless solos, and a downtown edge. "Collectively they are making some incredibly difficult and different music sound natural, free, and purposeful." (All Music Guide) Songlines Recordings 1003 - 2323 W. 2nd Ave. Vancouver B.C. V6K 1J4, Canada Tel: (604) 737-1632 =46ax: (604) 737-1678 treif@songlines.com www.songlines.com US/Canada distribution/sales: Allegro, 1 800 288 2007 Tony Reif (Songlines Recordings) - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 20:59:55 -0500 From: Steve Smith Subject: Re: standing ovations Dan Hewins wrote: > I do find the encore protocol a bit amusing at large shows. It's as > if the encore will always happen and that the band has to walk off > the stage and wait the required 2-3 minutes then jog back on stage > waving and mouthing "thank you." It might be funny if a band > finished the "set" then says, "that was the end of the show and the > next few songs are the encore. We don't want you to have to clap to > an empty stage for five minutes." The one time I ever actually heard Zappa live was in San Antonio, and he seemed decidedly less than thrilled to be there. It was the late '80s 'Them or Us' tour - Ike Willis, Ray White, Bobby Martin, Allan Zavod, Scott Thunes and Chad Wackermann, with no one in the stunt guitar chair. When the band took the stage, Zappa came to the mike and said, "Good evening and thanks for coming. We're gonna play..." and here he read off the entire set list from start to finish. "And then," he continued, "we're gonna leave the stage, you're gonna clap for a while, and we're gonna come back and play [insert title of old classic number 1] and [insert title of old classic number 2], and then we're gonna leave the stage again. You're gonna clap for a little while longer, we're gonna come back and play 'The Illinois Enema Bandit,' and then we're gonna leave the stage and the lights will come on. Okay?" And that's exactly what happened. Steve Smith ssmith36@sprynet.com NP - King Crimson, "Groon," 'Live at Summit Studios, Denver' (King Crimson Collectors Club, fresh out of the shrinkwrap) - - ------------------------------ End of Zorn List Digest V2 #882 ******************************* To unsubscribe from zorn-list-digest, send an email to "majordomo@lists.xmission.com" with "unsubscribe zorn-list-digest" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. A non-digest (direct mail) version of this list is also available; to subscribe to that instead, replace all instances of "zorn-list-digest" in the commands above with "zorn-list". Back issues are available for anonymous FTP from ftp.xmission.com, in pub/lists/zorn-list/archive. These are organized by date. Problems? Email the list owner at zorn-list-owner@lists.xmission.com