From: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (Zorn List Digest) To: zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: Zorn List Digest V2 #912 Reply-To: zorn-list Sender: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Zorn List Digest Sunday, April 16 2000 Volume 02 : Number 912 In this issue: - Two recent killer releases Re: Ponga Re: new derek baily releases Tom Verlaine & silent film Old JZ interview Re: Tom Verlaine & silent film Philly Philers - Cobra-esque event Beat the Donkey on Food Network?! michel, f., cote, e., parker, and, r. lussier Re: michel, f., cote, e., parker, and, r. lussier Re: michel, f., cote, e., parker, and, r. lussier dave douglas style Naked City at Don Hill's??? I am happy today!!!! New James Carter Discs Odp: New James Carter Discs New crimson Metallurgic Question FT:David Shea/DJ Grazzhoppa (no zorn content) Re: Metallurgic Question ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 10:03:28 -0400 From: Brian Olewnick Subject: Two recent killer releases Both have been mentioned here already, but: Morton Feldman All Piano (John Tilbury) London Hall A 4-CD compilation documenting most, if not all, of Feldman's work for solo piano, this might be THE Feldman release. The first disc documents 21 shortish pieces from 1950-64, in varying approaches, some of which presage the later masterworks; the second consists of fine performances of 'Piano 77' and 'Palais de Mari'. But it's the last two discs, containing 75+ minute renditions of 'Triadic Memories' and 'For Bunita Marcus' that blow one away. Hard to imagine any other pianist bringing to bear such phenomenal touch and concentration to these works. I harken back to Feldman's oft-cited analogy to Turkish rugs and imagine the musical equivalent of minutely observing a series of beautiful weaves, each growing perfectly out of its predecessor. A great, great album. Cecil Taylor Nailed FMP A volcanic performance from 1990, with the quartet of CT, Evan Parker, Barry Guy and Tony Oxley. Intense as hell from the get-go, it's recordings like this that make me much less tolerant of the post-CT, NYC jazz-improv community, as represented by much of the younger Vision fest crowd (with exceptions, of course). Here, these fifty-somethings (Cecil was already 60, I think) create with such rigor, volleying ideas back and forth in astonishing abundance, as to make most similar attempts sound flaccid in comparison. Kinda like the difference between a DeKooning and a Leroy Niemann (!). Highlights abound, but there's a passage at the beginning of the second piece, a soft, romantic duet between Taylor and Guy, that should be listened to by every improvising musician. Stellar stuff. Brian Olewnick NP: David Tudor, Neural Syntheses #6-9, Lovely Music. - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 17:34:22 +0100 From: dan hill Subject: Re: Ponga >From: "Neil H. Enet" > people have been talking about Wayne Horwitz's ZONY MASH, but >what about >PONGA. I remember someone suggested it when we were having the TRIP >HOP/JAZZ discussion a couple of months ago, so I would like your opinion on >their album, and the remix CD. they're both great albums. i prefer the original album on the whole, but the remix cd has its moments, particularly the awesome amon tobin mix. there are reviews, accompanied by soundclips, at motion: ponga http://motion.state51.co.uk/reviews/396.html ponga - remixed http://motion.state51.co.uk/reviews/509.html shame that loosegroove records seems to have gone out of business, but hopefully ponga live on ... hope this helps, dan. - -- - ---+ dan hill [state51] ---+ new reviews on motion [14.4.2000]: < headtop | phuturistix | ram trilogy | zen bias | jah wobble & deep space | yo la tengo | korekyojin | takashi hirayasu & bob brozman | john zorn > http://motion.state51.co.uk/ +--- - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 11:36:51 PDT From: "Matt Krefting" Subject: Re: new derek baily releases ibarra's quickly becoming one of my fav's i saw while she was still w/ david ware, and then w/ pauline oliveros, plus a couple of duos w/ thurston moore and she's been absolutely fantastic. i've found that she's able to adapt to different improvising situations remarkably well, while retaining her own style. however, because of the $ i'm spending on these upcoming festivals,i wasn't planning on checking out her duo w/ baily in may, but i think now i will, thanks for the review. later... matt <<- -Derek Bailey and Susie Ibarra: Daedal (incus records) You have to have the guts to go as a drumplayer on a stage-recording studio and play duo with derek bailey. Yes, john stevens was THE PERCUSSION player that could fit with derek perfectly. What to expect form Ibarra? I am not familiar with her other recordings, so she was new to me. And yes, these two go well together. Derek is on electric guitar (this means a lot of power), but Ibarra knows how to handle: She doesn't answer with free-noise but most of the time very subtle playing.... great. Although I have one little remark: one can hear on the album that she really admires derek bailey....this means that most of the time she follows the lead by derek bailey, and sometimes forgets that she is a player with her own way of playing. But hey, l do not forget that is difficult to maintain your own style when playing with bailey (remember the duo album with keiji haino, even this very typical guitar player went along with derek bailey's style). Conclusion: superb album, both players interact very good. Personally, this was a very good introduction for me with Ibarra.>> ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 14:44:58 -0400 From: wlt4@mindspring.com Subject: Tom Verlaine & silent film Thought this might be of interest: 4/16 Richmond, Virginia: James River Film Festival http://www.flicker.org/jrff.htm TOM VERLAINE PERFORMS MUSIC FOR FILM 1pm: Ex-Television singer/guitarist Tom Verlaine with long-time accompanist Jimmy Rip serves up fresh scores for old classics in this special festival presentation. Featuring films from Man Ray, Fernand Leger, and the rarely seen THE LIFE AND DEATH OF 9413, A HOLLYWOOD EXTRA (photographed by Greg Toland, [CITIZEN KANE]), all newly struck on 35mm. Verlaine and Rip have appeared at the Wexner Center for the Arts, Columbus, OH; The Portland Institute for Contemporary Art, Portland, OH: and St. Ann's, Brooklyn, NY. Verlaine found working with silents especially challenging: "There's no click track, nobody saying 'I want music for this scene; it's constant music..." This event will take place at the Byrd Theatre, 2908 West Cary Street in Richmond, Virginia. For more information, call (804) 355-6537. - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 14:44:19 -0400 From: Maurice Rickard Subject: Old JZ interview In just randomly poking around for some info, I came across this 1998 interview with the Montreal Mirror--before the big New Yorker thing. Apologies if this is way old news to people. http://www.montrealmirror.com/old/may071998/music1.html Maurice Rickard http://mauricerickard.com/ - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 14:58:33 -0400 From: Maurice Rickard Subject: Re: Tom Verlaine & silent film Wow--two posts from me in one day. I saw the Columbus, OH show, and this is highly recommended. The curious can read my review of it here: http://mauricerickard.com/culture/music_listening.html And other reviews of this and other performances are here: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Horizon/7784/films.htm Enjoy! - -Maurice At 2:44 PM -0400 4/14/00, wlt4@mindspring.com wrote: >Thought this might be of interest: > > >4/16 > Richmond, Virginia: James River Film Festival > http://www.flicker.org/jrff.htm > TOM VERLAINE PERFORMS MUSIC FOR FILM > 1pm: Ex-Television singer/guitarist Tom Verlaine with long-time >accompanist Jimmy Rip serves up fresh scores for old classics in >this special festival presentati... This event will take place at >the Byrd Theatre, 2908 West Cary > Street in Richmond, Virginia. For more information, call (804) 355-6537. Maurice Rickard http://mauricerickard.com/ - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 12:45:11 PDT From: "Joshua Valocchi" Subject: Philly Philers - Cobra-esque event Thought I'd pass this on as it may be of some interest here... T H E F O U N D A T I O N A Community Arts Initiative >Newsletter 04.11.00 > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- - ----- >Saturday, April 15th, 8pm - Games and Theory #2 >----------------------------------------------------------------------- - ----- Our second evening of classical / new music. This time we feature Philadelphia-based ensemble counter)induction, who will perform 21st century music for solo instruments and electronics, as well as multiple large group improvisations using John Zorn’s COBRA system. When improvising in COBRA, performers make musical decisions using an elaborate series of rules or calls, written on cardboard placards held up by a conductor. Players can even go outside of the rules, as guerrillas,and undermine the authority of the conductor. Always surprising, and frequently hilarious, COBRA is a post-modern classic, a touchstone for avant-garde improvisers around the world. Electronic works to be performed include "Respiro" by Ragnhild Berstad (Norway) for amplified clarinet and tape, an atmospheric exploration of breath, and the sound of moving air; and "Oddjob" by Jukka Tiensu (Finland) for solo viola and electronics, a work employing amplification and digital delay to create a virtual performance space for an acoustically extended viola. Percussionist Jeffrey Irving will perform Kevin Volan's "She Sleeps with a Small Blanket." Guest artist Mark Rimple will perform a new work by Temple University ’s Mathew Greenbaum for archlute. Join us for an evening of mind-bending musicality. At St. Mary's Church, 3916 Locust Walk. Doors open at 8pm. FREE! For more information, visit http://www.electrotone.com/ci ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 13:36:49 -0700 From: William Crump Subject: Beat the Donkey on Food Network?! Cyro Baptista completists who get the Food Network cable channel should check out "Gordon Elliott's Door Knock Dinners" -- yes, trust me. Gordon invaded some New Jersey home with a chef who cooked whatever was in their house, and when the meal was presented, none other than Beat the Donkey was on hand to serenade. It was the episode that aired this past.... uh... Monday, I think. Food Network thrives on reruns (though there's a new "Iron Chef" tonight, woo-hoo!), so don't worry if you missed it -- it'll be back soon. William Crump - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 20:57:09 GMT From: "Scott Handley" Subject: michel, f., cote, e., parker, and, r. lussier No, not together. But, from the Verge site.... COMPIL ZOUAVE ($17.00 CD) Cote, Michel F. Michel Cote and his ensemble of 20 zouaves (soldiers): Pierre Bastien, Wakako Kano, Diane Labrosse, Eric Bernier, Serge Boisvert, Luc Bonin, Jean Derome, Guillaume Dostaler, Bernard Falaise, Claude Fradette, Normand Guilbeault, Joane Hetu, Wakako Kano, Robert Langlois, Frank Martel, Julien Poulin, Martin Tetreault Emiko Toguchi, Guy Trifiro, Tom Walsh and The Belly Button Brothers. Cote brings a scientific and alcoholized approach, along with a battery of defective phonometers, to this collection of semi-jazz, neo-reggae, lo-fly selections. [snip] This album is brand new, apparently. Has anyone heard it? Who is this Cote, and what is his music like? I noticed another record with the Martin Tetreault "connection", called : L'AME DE L'OBJET Bruire & M.F. Cote Description Michel F. Cote, drums, live electronics; Serge 'Golden' Boisvert, trumpet, singing; Jean Derome, alto & baritone sax, flutes, small instruments, live electronics; Claude Fradette, guitars, bass; Martin Tetreault, turntables, pickups. [SNIP] Neat, neat, neat---These Quebecois (sp?) avant-guardians really float my boat. I'd also like to solicit some Rene Lussier suggestions, which I hope I haven't yet asked for. DUR NOYAU DUR and some of his work with Jean Derome has really impressed me. Finally, has anyone heard Parker-Guy-Lytton + Crispell's newest double album on Leo, AFTER APPLEBY? I imagine the results are what you'd expect, but my "want" list is pretty damn long. Cheers, group! - ----s ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 17:52:03 EDT From: Dgasque@aol.com Subject: Re: michel, f., cote, e., parker, and, r. lussier In a message dated Fri, 14 Apr 2000 4:58:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "Scott Handley" writes: > COMPIL ZOUAVE ($17.00 CD) > Cote, Michel F. > This album is brand new, apparently. Has anyone heard it? Who is this > Cote, and what is his music like? > Likely from the wonderful Ambiances Magnetique label- a wonderful Quebec-based label featuring the best avant-gardists/jazzers/new-music composers of that small but thriving scene. I have yet to buy a CD from the label I didn't care for. Probably the best "little known" label out there. IIRC, the label was begun by Derome and Lussier, both ex-Conventium- one of the best folk/prog bands out of Canada in the 70's/80's. I noticed another record with the Martin > Tetreault "connection", called : > > L'AME DE L'OBJET > Bruire & M.F. Cote > > Description > Michel F. Cote, drums, live electronics; Serge 'Golden' Boisvert, trumpet, > singing; Jean Derome, alto & baritone sax, flutes, small instruments, live > electronics; Claude Fradette, guitars, bass; Martin Tetreault, turntables, > pickups. [SNIP] > > Neat, neat, neat---These Quebecois (sp?) avant-guardians really float my > boat. > > I'd also like to solicit some Rene Lussier suggestions, which I hope I > haven't yet asked for. DUR NOYAU DUR and some of his work with Jean Derome > has really impressed me. > The best way to learn what this label's all about is via their inexpensive samplers- whose count is up to 5, IIRC. - -- =dg= - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 20:26:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Ken Waxman Subject: Re: michel, f., cote, e., parker, and, r. lussier Scott: Oh go ahead and add it to your "want" list (you should see mine). It's a one live, one studio extension of the Natives and Aliens band, with different groupings as well as quartet pieces. On the other matter I'm afraid after having seen Rene and Jean in group after group both here and in Victo the "act" is starting to wear on me. Too much praise to soon has made them think they can play anything and everything. I think they need some stronger direction by someone hors de Quebec. Ken Waxman On Fri, 14 Apr 2000, Scott Handley wrote: > > Finally, has anyone heard Parker-Guy-Lytton + Crispell's newest double album > on Leo, AFTER APPLEBY? I imagine the results are what you'd expect, but my > "want" list is pretty damn long. - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 23:56:23 +1000 From: "Julian" Subject: dave douglas style I've been listening quite a lot to the Tiny Bell Trio lately, and was wondering whether anyone knew of anything else that has a similar feel about it? I'm also curious what sort of stuff would have influenced DD to write his odd non-linear melodies, for example Prolix and Head-On Kouvlodsko? - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 14:31:41 EDT From: LostinmyDreamz@aol.com Subject: Naked City at Don Hill's??? This weeks Village Voice lists the Naked City playing at Don Hill's in Manhatten on Wednesday April 19th. Does anyone know if this is John Zorn's Naked City or just another group with the same name? - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 12:44:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gatzen Subject: I am happy today!!!! I just received the japan TV recording of Naked City Live at the marquee in NYC 1992. I was at this show in the front row. Rock on folks!!!!! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 19:47:37 -0400 From: Steve Smith Subject: New James Carter Discs To all who might have been intrigued by my recent posts regarding two upcoming new James Carter discs (the electric one with Marc Ribot, Jef Lee Johnson, Jamaaladeen Tacuma and G. Galvin Weston, and the acoustic "Django Reinhardt Tribute" with Cyro Baptista and others), I've since learned that they are to be released on June 6. Steve Smith ssmith36@sprynet.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 12:20:50 +0200 From: "Marcin Gokieli" Subject: Odp: New James Carter Discs BTW, Does anybody know whether that lineup will be performing live? James Carter? Jamalaadeen Tacuma are scheduled for Warsaw Summer Jazz fest... > To all who might have been intrigued by my recent posts regarding two > upcoming new James Carter discs (the electric one with Marc Ribot, Jef > Lee Johnson, Jamaaladeen Tacuma and G. Galvin Weston, - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 12:23:35 +0200 From: "Marcin Gokieli" Subject: New crimson The new Crimson 'construction of light; was supposed to have its Japan release on 4 april? Has anybody here heard it? - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 17:09:49 -0400 From: Brian Olewnick Subject: Metallurgic Question Does anyone know if the Fripp/Eno composition, 'An Index of Metals' (surely one of the great song titles) is available on disc? Why it wasn't included on 'The Essential Fripp & Eno' from a few years back instead of those mediocre 'Healthy Colors' tracks is beyond me, but I think it would benefit from discafication as much as the 'No Pussyfooting' tracks did. Thanks. Brian Olewnick NP: what else? Fripp/Eno, 'Evening Star' - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 20:18:58 -0500 From: johnzorn Subject: FT:David Shea/DJ Grazzhoppa (no zorn content) Is anyone interested in: David Shea/DJ Grazhoppa: Down River, Upstream (Downsail Plastics) I'm looking to trade it.....let me know if your interested and what you would be willing to trade it for. Thank you for your time. - -matt - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 23:39:03 -0400 From: Steve Smith Subject: Re: Metallurgic Question Brian Olewnick wrote: > Does anyone know if the Fripp/Eno composition, 'An Index of Metals' > (surely one of the great song titles) is available on disc? Both 'Evening Star' and 'No Pussyfooting' have been available on disc for quite a long time (a glance at Amazon.com a moment ago confirms that they are both listed there, and thus presumably still in print), although I don't think they've ever enjoyed a remastering that would make them sonically as up to date as 'Essential Fripp & Eno' was. Agreed that the 'Healthy Colors' tracks were of dubious value - to be honest, the true 'Essential Fripp & Eno' would have included all tracks from both original albums and nothing else, unless it were expanded to include Fripp's playing on Eno's albums and would thus have to include "Baby's on Fire," "St. Elmo's Fire," "I'll Come Running" and a few others. The King Crimson albums are all currently being remastered and the results have been outstanding so far. Perhaps we can hope the same for the Fripp & Eno albums at last. Steve Smith ssmith36@sprynet.com - - ------------------------------ End of Zorn List Digest V2 #912 ******************************* To unsubscribe from zorn-list-digest, send an email to "majordomo@lists.xmission.com" with "unsubscribe zorn-list-digest" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. A non-digest (direct mail) version of this list is also available; to subscribe to that instead, replace all instances of "zorn-list-digest" in the commands above with "zorn-list". Back issues are available for anonymous FTP from ftp.xmission.com, in pub/lists/zorn-list/archive. These are organized by date. Problems? Email the list owner at zorn-list-owner@lists.xmission.com