From: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (Zorn List Digest) To: zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: Zorn List Digest V2 #913 Reply-To: zorn-list Sender: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Zorn List Digest Saturday, April 22 2000 Volume 02 : Number 913 In this issue: - morton feldman prelapse/zorn/patton Odp: Metallurgic Question Butch Morris Conduction Workshop nyc laswell sundays Re: prelapse/zorn/patton upcoming NYC gigs angelica festival in italy derek & the ruins [Non-Zorn] Voquette RE: upcoming NYC gigs [& Carny] Re: derek & the ruins more cobra/game pieces boston punk question Re: angelica festival in italy Re: angelica festival in italy KOMFORT 2000 by Martin Siewert Re: KOMFORT 2000 by Martin Siewert Odp: angelica festival in italy recommandation more cobra/game pieces Zorn and Snagglepuss Re: more cobra/game pieces ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 20:44:02 -0700 (PDT) From: aaron chua Subject: morton feldman if anyone has saved prior discussions on his works on this list sometime ago could they please send them to me offlist ( or otherwise give me a hint as to which digest(s) they were on.) and while on the subject, i was about to purchase For John Cage( on a japanese label I think) when i noticed that hat art has(?) released a recording of this as well. anyone care to cast their vote on which recording floats their boat? thanks. regards aaron __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 08:43:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gatzen Subject: prelapse/zorn/patton Hi folks...if anyone is interested in a trade, I have a Prelapse show and a Zorn/Mike Patton show from Amherst Mass..either 1995 or 1996 I dont remeber the year..I can make cd's of it.The sound quality is amazing. Let me know.. Thanks Tom __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 10:31:40 +0200 From: "Marcin Gokieli" Subject: Odp: Metallurgic Question I do think that both original fripp and eno are available in shops. I have both on vinyl, and as i have the 'essential', i do not need those cds that much. Speaking of those remasters, i'd love to have the remastered versions of early Eno albums (that featured fripp, fritth, wyatt, etc): 'here come the warm jets', 'taking tiger mountain', 'Another Green World', 'before and after science'. They all have an incredible sound - eno's creativity as producer and 'sound organizer' - and suffer horribly from not being remastered. Oh! And also 'my life in the bush of ghost'... - ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Smith To: Cc: Sent: Monday, April 17, 2000 5:39 AM Subject: Re: Metallurgic Question > Brian Olewnick wrote: > > > Does anyone know if the Fripp/Eno composition, 'An Index of Metals' > > (surely one of the great song titles) is available on disc? > > Both 'Evening Star' and 'No Pussyfooting' have been available on disc for > quite a long time (a glance at Amazon.com a moment ago confirms that they > are both listed there, and thus presumably still in print), although I > don't think they've ever enjoyed a remastering that would make them > sonically as up to date as 'Essential Fripp & Eno' was. Agreed that the > 'Healthy Colors' tracks were of dubious value - to be honest, the true > 'Essential Fripp & Eno' would have included all tracks from both original > albums and nothing else, unless it were expanded to include Fripp's > playing on Eno's albums and would thus have to include "Baby's on Fire," > "St. Elmo's Fire," "I'll Come Running" and a few others. > > The King Crimson albums are all currently being remastered and the > results have been outstanding so far. Perhaps we can hope the same for > the Fripp & Eno albums at last. > > Steve Smith > ssmith36@sprynet.com > > > - > - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 13:15:27 -0500 From: kurt_gottschalk@scni.com Subject: Butch Morris Conduction Workshop Jump Arts and Neues Kabarett are proud to present the Lawrence D. "Butch" Morris CONDUCTIONsm Workshop Saturday April 22nd - 4pm *Bring your instruments and prepare to be conducted! All are welcome - Musicians and spectators alike! The conduction workshop is an excellent opportunity for both student and professional alike to get a glimpse into a music that has been described as "....... one of the most challenging and exciting contributions to 20th century music". @ The Brecht Forum 122 West 27th Street 10th Floor $10 Also... don't miss the second weekend of J U M P F E S T I V A L T E N Friday 4/21 8 p.m. - Lawrence D. "Butch" Morris Conduction #110 9 p.m. - Music for Percussion & Strings (Ryan Sawyer, Matt Heyner, Mat Maneri, John Blum) 10 p.m. - The Oscar Noriega Group 11 p.m. - Andrew Bemkey Trio (w/ Tom Abbs & Chad Taylor) Saturday 4/22 7 p.m. - Gold Sparkle Band CD release party (free) 8 p.m. - Gold Sparkle Band performance 9 p.m. - The David Boykins Outet 10 p.m. - Mark Whitecage solo 11 p.m. - Steve Swell's Unified Theory of Sound (Jemeel Moondoc, Jackson Krall, Wilber Morris) @ The Brecht Forum 122 West 27th Street 10th Floor $6 per night +plus+ The Creative Sound Workshop A free music workshop for kids of all ages Saturday, April 22 - 1 p.m. at the Brecht Forum Log on to http://JumpArts.org CD's, mp3's, books and more! Check out the Artists! Get a Free Jump Mail Account! Search the Web with Jump Search! - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 15:34:28 -0500 From: kurt_gottschalk@scni.com Subject: nyc laswell sundays anyone know anything about bill laswell w/dj's sunday nights at walker's (near the knit)? it's been advertised in the voice the last few weeks, in teeny print at the bottom of the knit's ad. np: Lyle Lovett: Step Inside This House - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 00:10:35 EDT From: Alejo88@aol.com Subject: Re: prelapse/zorn/patton Wow! Someone has that?! That was a good gig - it was actually 4 years ago tonight: 4/18/96. It was at Northampton, MA, part of the Loud Music Fest, and it was with our old drummer, RJ Rabin. There's some Zorn tunes premiered that night that will never see the light of day, as per Zorn's request. . . . Give me your address, Tom, and I'll send you the song titles. Later, Alex Prelapse P.S. Prelapse at Ottobar in Baltimore, MD; Thurs Apr 20! >-----Original Message----- > >From: owner-zorn-list@lists.xmission.com > >[mailto:owner-zorn-list@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Tom Gatzen > >Sent: Monday, April 17, 2000 11:44 AM > >To: zorn-list@lists.xmission.com > >Subject: prelapse/zorn/patton > > > >Hi folks...if anyone is interested in a trade, I have > >a > >Prelapse show and a Zorn/Mike Patton show from Amherst > >Mass..either 1995 or 1996 I dont remeber the year..I > >can make cd's of it.The sound quality is amazing. Let > >me know.. > > > > > >Thanks > > > >Tom - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 01:35:45 EDT From: JonAbbey2@aol.com Subject: upcoming NYC gigs sorry for the NYC-centric nature of this message, but there are a lot of potentially great shows coming up this week that I thought I'd make sure people knew about: tomorrow through Sunday is 4 nights of Evan Parker, with different collaborators each night, at the Knitting Factory. Monday night at the Cooler is the duo of Dean Roberts and Christof Kurzmann, fresh from last week's Taktlos appearance (in the larger group Shabotinski). both of these musicians have upcoming Erstwhile releases, Roberts with Werner Dafeldecker and Kurzmann with Burkhard Stangl. if you can't make it to this show, all four musicians will be at Tonic on 5/24. the Cooler show is free. Wednesday at Tonic at 10, after Georg Grawe/Mark Dresser, is another set from Roberts, this one probably with some of the musicians on his recent Ritornell record and more rock-oriented. and Thursday and Friday at Tonic are four sets of Kevin Drumm, three with Ikue Mori, Lee Ranaldo, and White Out respectively, and one set solo. helluva week, huh? Jon www.erstwhilerecords.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 11:28:06 +0200 From: patRice Subject: angelica festival in italy hi there a friend of mine handed me the programme of the angelica festival in bologna/italy. taking place, as far as i can make out with my bad italian, from may 5 to may 14 and july 5 o july 6. their webpage is at www.aaa-angelica.com appearances by: bar kokhba (special edition for angelica; it says!!!) terry riley la monte young eyvind kang mike patton vs. the x-ecutioners (!) guus janssen ensemble modern playing frank zappa stuff and many more... there are also pre-concert talks with some of the composers; yes, with jz too! are any of the european members of this list attending any of the shows? yours, patRice - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 16:57:13 +0200 From: "in.out" Subject: derek & the ruins Viergehello zorner just a word to ask you which label released the Derek & the ruins album ? thanks mikl - --------------------- In-Out Cd Store 15 avenue N=F4tre Dame 06000 Nice Tel/Fax : +33 (0)4 93 80 54 54 e-mail : in=2Eout@wanadoo=2Efr - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 17:58:04 -0400 From: "Ljova" Subject: [Non-Zorn] Voquette Hi, everyone! Just wanted to let you know of a product called "voquette", which lets you save files from the internet -- files you're not really supposed to save, such as Herb Levy's "Mappings" Broadcasts and such. I'm not sure if such a system is legal, but that it exists... all you law-oriented people can append to this message if you like. Sorry if this system has already been discussed... http://www.voquette.com - -Ljova Disclaimer: I have no connections, no investements, and receive no profit of any kind from Voquette.com - -------- Lev "Ljova" Zhurbin L@Ljova.com http://Ljova.com/ Listen to my music: http://www.mp3.com/LevZhurbin/ (compositions) http://www.mp3.com/Ljova/ (improvisations) "Do not fear mistakes - there are none." -Miles Davis - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 18:20:15 -0400 From: Jennifer Dahmus Subject: RE: upcoming NYC gigs [& Carny] > sorry for the NYC-centric nature of this message, but there > are a lot of potentially great shows coming up this week that I thought > I'd make sure people knew about: Also noteworthy is the upcoming performance of Zorn's Carny as part of Juilliard's Piano Century series. (Carl Cranmer, pianist) Tuesday, April 25, 8 pm, Paul Recital Hall, FREE Other works by Vierk, Birtwistle, Carter, Danielpour, Murail, Shapey, Ades, Kernis, Zwilich, and Harberg Carny is first on the program. Jeni - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 20:16:25 -0400 From: "Caleb T. Deupree" Subject: Re: derek & the ruins At 04:57 PM 4/20/00 +0200, in.out wrote: >Viergehello zorner > >just a word to ask you which label released the Derek & the ruins album ? The first one is on Tzadik and the second on Paratactile. - -- Caleb Deupree cdeupree@erinet.com It is pretty obvious that the debasement of the human mind caused by a constant flow of fraudulent advertising is no trivial thing. There is more than one way to conquer a country. - -- Raymond Chandler - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 13:58:29 CDT From: "samuel yrui" Subject: more cobra/game pieces It's been asked so many times. Where can I acquire the guidlines or rules for Cobra or any other game pieces. It seems like people keep asking, I'm not sure if I've asked before, or a million times before, but if I have I've never gotten an answer. And if anyone else who's asked has gotten an answer, they've gotten it privately. So will someone just tell me either where I can get my hands on this, or if not, would someone tell me why I can't or why people are ambivalent or unwilling to share. I have heard that in Bard College's music program there is a class that utilizes various new methods of improvisation, from Pauline Oliveros' meditations to Zorn's game pieces. As a music student I would like to try them with a college ensemble. FOR EDUCATIONAL AND PRIVATE PURPOSES ONLY. -samuel ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 14:01:27 CDT From: "samuel yrui" Subject: boston punk question Okay, two Boston punk bands I like a lot. Fat Day and Bullroarer. I know this is somewhat off-topic but I was hoping someone knew. I am moreso interested in Bullroarer. I was wondering if anyone could give me the names of some "If you like Bullroarer, you'll love ______" kind of bands. Just any other bands in this vein that you know of and where I can get their albums from? or websites, etcetera? thanks, -samuel ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 23:02:37 +0100 From: "Vincent" Subject: Re: angelica festival in italy Hi The question should be: Is anyone going to racord the shows/performances? Any chance of a radio broadcast. Vincent On 20 Apr 00, at 11:28, patRice wrote: > hi there > > a friend of mine handed me the programme of the angelica festival in > bologna/italy. taking place, as far as i can make out with my bad > italian, from may 5 to may 14 and july 5 o july 6. > > their webpage is at www.aaa-angelica.com > > appearances by: > bar kokhba (special edition for angelica; it says!!!) > terry riley > la monte young > eyvind kang > mike patton vs. the x-ecutioners (!) > guus janssen > ensemble modern playing frank zappa stuff > and many more... > > there are also pre-concert talks with some of the composers; yes, with > jz too! > > are any of the european members of this list attending any of the shows? > > yours, > patRice > > - > > My address is Catherine Vercheval PO BOX 859 B-1000 Brussels Belgium Please DO NOT use my name as it is my wife's po box. - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 16:23:57 -0700 From: "Patrice L. Roussel" Subject: Re: angelica festival in italy On Fri, 21 Apr 2000 23:02:37 +0100 "Vincent" wrote: > > The question should be: Is anyone going to racord the > shows/performances? Any chance of a radio broadcast. Wny? Not enough Masada records yet :-). Patrice. - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 16:26:12 -0700 From: "Patrice L. Roussel" Subject: KOMFORT 2000 by Martin Siewert Any comments on the following record: - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ *** - KOMFORT 2000: Martin Siewert Martin Siewert: guitar, lapsteel, devices; Wayne Horvitz: Nord Lead; Heige Hinteregger: sampler, saxophones; Werner Dofeldecker: bass, electronics, table guitar; Tony Buck: drums, percussion. ???? - Charhizma (Austria), cha007 (CD) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Also, does anybody (read: Jon Abbey) know when it came out? Thanks, Patrice. - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 21:21:33 EDT From: JonAbbey2@aol.com Subject: Re: KOMFORT 2000 by Martin Siewert In a message dated 4/21/00 7:26:55 PM, proussel@ichips.intel.com writes: << Any comments on the following record: - - KOMFORT 2000: Martin Siewert >> I don't have a copy of this yet, although I'm getting one this weekend. like most Charhizma titles, it has minimal US distribution. <> it's actually Dafeldecker, who's also just been added to my list of upcoming artists, in duo with Dean Roberts. <> it came out on March 2. Jon www.erstwhilerecords.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 11:14:16 +0200 From: "Marcin Gokieli" Subject: Odp: angelica festival in italy BTW: does anybody whether Ensemble Modern will play the zappa stuff somewhere else? Do they have a website? And what is the 'special edition' of bar kokhba? > hi there > > a friend of mine handed me the programme of the angelica festival in > bologna/italy. taking place, as far as i can make out with my bad > italian, from may 5 to may 14 and july 5 o july 6. > > their webpage is at www.aaa-angelica.com > > appearances by: > bar kokhba (special edition for angelica; it says!!!) > terry riley > la monte young > eyvind kang > mike patton vs. the x-ecutioners (!) > guus janssen > ensemble modern playing frank zappa stuff > and many more... > > there are also pre-concert talks with some of the composers; yes, with > jz too! > > are any of the european members of this list attending any of the shows? > > yours, > patRice > > - > - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 10:38:35 EDT From: "Mathieu Belanger" Subject: recommandation Hello, First of all, sorry for this message which is not related to Zorn... Could anyone give me more details on the following recording of Ernst Reijseger with Alan Purves. Is it good or should I avoid it? Cellotape - Scotchtape Data Records 822 Thank you very much, Mathieu - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 13:13:27 CDT From: "samuel yrui" Subject: more cobra/game pieces I'm hitting myself. I feel silly, I only own the Tokyo operations. I didn't know I could find it in such an obvious and convenient way. Thank you very much :) -samuel if my memory serves me..it was located in the first cobra CD on hatart... Tom - --- samuel yrui wrote: Hi, blah blah blah, obtain scores blah blah Cobra. > -samuel ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 16:08:07 -0500 (CDT) From: Nicholas G Williams Subject: Zorn and Snagglepuss Hi, I'm new to Zorn, and I was wondering if someone could give me some information about Zorn and his composition Snagglepuss? I'm doing research on him for a class project. If anyone knows his email address (if he has one) that would be appreciated also. Thank you for your time. Cordially, Nic Music Ed Major at Mississippi State University ngw1@ra.msstate.edu Everyone has a photographic memory. Some just don't have film. - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 20:13:57 -0400 From: "Caleb T. Deupree" Subject: Re: more cobra/game pieces At 01:13 PM 4/22/00 CDT, samuel yrui wrote: > >if my memory serves me..it was located in the first >cobra CD on hatart... Although there are notes in the first hat cd, my understanding is that this is only a sample, and that the complete score is more extensive and more complex than what is presented there. When the Cincinnati Cobra Group was active, I discussed it briefly with one of the members, and he said there were around three dozen different hand signals alone, and the CCG only incorporated a fraction thereof. He also said that they were under strict orders, apparently from JZ himself, not to reveal too much about the score. - -- Caleb Deupree cdeupree@erinet.com It is pretty obvious that the debasement of the human mind caused by a constant flow of fraudulent advertising is no trivial thing. There is more than one way to conquer a country. - -- Raymond Chandler - - ------------------------------ End of Zorn List Digest V2 #913 ******************************* To unsubscribe from zorn-list-digest, send an email to "majordomo@lists.xmission.com" with "unsubscribe zorn-list-digest" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. A non-digest (direct mail) version of this list is also available; to subscribe to that instead, replace all instances of "zorn-list-digest" in the commands above with "zorn-list". Back issues are available for anonymous FTP from ftp.xmission.com, in pub/lists/zorn-list/archive. These are organized by date. Problems? Email the list owner at zorn-list-owner@lists.xmission.com