From: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (Zorn List Digest) To: zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: Zorn List Digest V2 #988 Reply-To: zorn-list Sender: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Zorn List Digest Wednesday, July 5 2000 Volume 02 : Number 988 In this issue: - A long Zorn weekend Re: Funk BLUE NOISE BAND soprano sax players Re: soprano sax players Re: soprano sax players RE: soprano sax players Grant Green Re: Grant Green (and Bill Frisell) Joey Baron Q&A Re: late '70s Miles musicians Re: Odp: late '70s Miles musicians Re: late '70s Miles musicians Re: Grant Green Frisell recommendation a mailing list for electronic musicians A long Zorn weekend psychedelic info RE: Frisell recommendation Re: soprano sax players Re: soprano sax players Re: psychedelic info ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 19:07:09 +0100 From: "Alastair Wilson" Subject: A long Zorn weekend Apologies if this has been covered - my PC's been down for a week or so - but it's rare to hear the f*** word on any BBC radio station, let alone twice at 6 o'clock in the evening..... Yes, I'm talking about part 1 of 4 of Steve Beresford's history of JZ, which I found fascinating. The excerpt from the Sonny Clark Memorial Quartet record has put it to the top of my must-buy list. Then at 11.30 Jazz on 3's Bar Kokhba and Masada sets from the Barbican this January. Just as good as I remember. Finally, last night Zorn/Frith/Laswell/Lombardo in person at the Barb. The gig was advertised as "a quartet of massive power" which sounded rather cheesy to me, but summed it up. They played for an hour and ten minutes (plus an encore) and rarely let up. Highlights: Frith's e-bow solo; seeing Laswell for the first time and revelling in his subaquatic bass sound; Dave Lombardo's 'eavy metal drum solo complete with ironic lighting; the Frith/Zorn duet (telepathic understanding); the sheer joy of the players. Can't wait for some recordings... - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 16:14:11 EDT From: JSub@aol.com Subject: Re: Funk > Can any one recomend any good funk albums. Any > other names any one can throw at me would be helpful. Any James Brown between 65-75 comes highly recommended if your looking for the funk, especially since he created it. The four cd set Star Time (which covers from the 50-'s thru the 80's) is still my favorite box set ever released. While individual albums/cd's from the 65-75 period are great, "Sex Machine", "Payback", "There it is", "Hot Pants", "Say it Loud", etc, Brown has been well served by compilations covering this period. The best of the batch: "Foundations Funk: A Brand New Bag 1964-69" 2cd "Funk Power 1970: A Brand New Thang" "Make It Funky The Big Payback 1971-1975" 2cd Jeff - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2000 16:03:14 CDT From: "Lenny Barszap" Subject: BLUE NOISE BAND I have been a longtime fan of John Zorn and the entire NY musician scene for a long time, however, living in Austin, TX, we rarely get to see much of those musicians. Luckily, we have an excellent local band called the BLUE NOISE BAND who are constantly impressing and amazing me with their music. They are now beginning their first tour and if they come through your town, you should not miss them. You can check them out at http://www.bluenoiseband.com. There are some sound samples, but they have nothing on their live shows. Here are the tourdates: Friday, July 7 - Chicago, IL Morseland 1218 W Morse 773-764-8039 Saturday, July 8 - Cleveland, OH Happy Dog 5801 Detroit Ave. 216-961-4448 Monday, July 10 - Washington D.C Metro Cafe 1522 14th St NW 202-588-9118 Wednesday, July 12 - Washington D.C The Black Cat1831 14th St NW 202-667-4527 Thursday, July 13 - Baltimore, MD Cafe Tattoo 4825 Belair Rd 410-325-7427 Sunday, July 16 - New York, NY Izzy Bar 166 1st Ave (btw 10th & 11th St) 212-228-0444 Monday, July 17 - Cambridge, MA (Boston) Green Street Grill 280 Green St. 617-876-1655 Tuesday, July 18 - New York, NY Makor 35 W 67th St 212-601-1000 Wednesday, July 19 - Providence, RI Met Cafe 130 Union St. 401-861-2142 Do Not Miss Them!!!!! Lenny ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 18:12:28 -0400 From: "Neil H. Enet" Subject: soprano sax players Hello List, I need more recommendations from you guys: I'm looking for Soprano Sax players. Anything you recommend: free, bop, hard bop, avantgarde, whatever!!!!! Thanks in advance Neil H. Enet - ------------ - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2000 18:54:39 -0400 From: Brian Olewnick Subject: Re: soprano sax players Neil H. Enet wrote: > I'm looking for Soprano Sax players. Anything you recommend: free, bop, > hard bop, avantgarde, whatever!!!!! Best I've heard in concert this year were John Butcher and Joe McPhee. Brian Olewnick - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 17:15:53 -0600 From: "The Dikemans" Subject: Re: soprano sax players Here are some guys to check out Steve Lacy, anything of his, some of his recent solo stuff sounds pretty good. Evan Parker, almost anything by him is great, too. I think there were a couple CD's of evan and steve duos, that would be worth hearing. Jane Ira Bloom, haven't heard that much, but what I did hear I dug a lot. Straight ahead. David Liebman, of course the god of inside almost outside soprano. Any of his 80's stuff is great. Bhob Rainey, avant soprano player. Studied with Joe Maneri. He recently recorded with Jack Write (who is also an incredable player definatly worth checking out) on CIMP with Fred Londberg-Holm and Bob Marsh. Also recorded a CD as a leader a while back, if you're interested in it, let me know and I'll e-mail Jack. I know it's hard to get but I recall Jack had some copies. This is really great subtle noise improv stuff. And Wayne Shorter is cool, but I don't know what he's got that shows him playing soprano really well. High Life is cool, if you can dig it's groove, otherwise, it'll sound like crappy smooth shieza to you, probably. john - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2000 17:56:57 -0600 From: "Matthew W Wirzbicki (S) " Subject: RE: soprano sax players >I'm looking for Soprano Sax players. Anything you recommend: Evan Parker "." As john mensioned almost anything is good. I'd recommend some solo stuff: Conic Sections on AH UM, or - if available - Saxophone Solos on chronoscope. I also like the duo "most material" with Eddie Prevost quite a bit - that one's on matchless records. Matt Wirzbicki - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 21:17:39 -0400 From: "Neil H. Enet" Subject: Grant Green Hello list, first, thanks to those who have helped me with some soprano sax players, I will check out everything you've recommended. Now ... another thing. I just bought Grant Green's IDLE MOMENTS, which someone in this list recommended to me a few months ago, and it just blew me away!!!!!! It's an excellent album and it was my first real album of GUITAR JAZZ, and now I want MORE!!!!! Now, I know every month there's a big discussion over Bill Frisell recommendations and I'm very sorry ... but it's my turn now! I was wondering if Mr. Frisell had some releases that were close to Green's Idle Moments. I understand that Bill Frisell has some albums that mess around with a little country music ... I'm not interested in that kind of thing, just a little nice Frisell guitar jazz record. Thanks in advance, and again I apologize for bringing this up one more time to the list. Thanks Neil H. Enet - ------------ - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 12:50:46 +1000 From: "Julian" Subject: Re: Grant Green (and Bill Frisell) > I was wondering if Mr. Frisell had some releases that were close to Green's > Idle Moments. I understand that Bill Frisell has some albums that mess > around with a little country music ... I'm not interested in that kind of > thing, just a little nice Frisell guitar jazz record. Thanks in advance, > and again I apologize for bringing this up one more time to the list. As far as I've heard, Frisell never gets anywhere near being as 'straight jazz' as that (and I've heard all of his albums as leader). The most 'jazz' recording with Frisell I can think of is "Songs We Know" by Frisell with Fred Hersch on piano, duet recordings of standards. A few others off the top of my head that show Frisell as quite jazzy (and which are great regardless): Kenny Wheeler's "Angel Song" (also featuring Dave Holland and Lee Konitz) and Don Byron's "Romance With The Unseen" (also featuring Drew Gress and Jack DeJohnette). But if you are interested simply in hearing how great Frisell can get regardless of it including a bit of country, rock, funk, and whetever else, maybe check out "Live" with Joey Baron and Kermit Driscoll... - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2000 16:30:29 -0400 From: James Hale Subject: Joey Baron Q&A That Joey Baron interview is now available by downloading the new DooBop PDF. You can get it at www.doobopmag.com Also reviews of the new Ornette Columbia reissues. James Hale - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2000 23:03:44 -0400 From: James Hale Subject: Re: late '70s Miles musicians These questions come up from time to time on the Miles List. There have been various sitings of Pete Cosey around Chicago, but it's generally believed that he's not much into music anymore. Michael Henderson and Reggie Lucas went on to become fairly successful R&B producers. Dominique Gaumont developed a bad dope habit, and went back to Europe. He surfaced a number of years ago in a Guitar Player magazine retrospective on Miles' guitarists. I believe he was living in Paris and playing locally. James Hale Marcin Gokieli wrote: >So here's my question - what happened to Pete > Cosey, Dominique Gaumont, Reggie Lucas, Michael Henderson (a great bass > player, whom i did not apreciate until recently) etc? - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2000 23:13:39 -0400 From: Lang Thompson Subject: Re: Odp: late '70s Miles musicians > It's really amazing that those guys disappeared. Are there any >recordings of power tools with Cosey? Back when the Knitting Factory had a weekly radio show in the late 80s, one of the broadcasts was the Cosey version of Power Tools. I taped it but haven't seen that tape in years. My guess is that somebody has the original syndication recording (shows at that time may have been LP or CD). Lang - ------------------------------------------- Adventures In Sound http://wlt4.home.mindspring.com/adventures.htm Full Alert Film Review http://wlt4.home.mindspring.com/fafr.htm Funhouse http://wlt4.home.mindspring.com/funhouse.htm "Where Do You Want to Go Today" Somewhere you can never take me! - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 22:38:02 -0400 From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: late '70s Miles musicians On Tue, Jul 04, 2000 at 11:03:44PM -0400, James Hale wrote: > These questions come up from time to time on the Miles List. > There have been various sitings of Pete Cosey around Chicago, but it's > generally believed that he's not much into music anymore. Well, he *almost* was going to play in Chicago on September 1st... From Henry Kaiser's journal at http://www.henrykaiser.net/journal.html "We were "all set" to do YO MILES! with Pete Cosey and myself on guitars at the Chicago Jazz Fest on Sept. 1st. As usual I asked if there was any tobacco sponsorship - since I won't play for advertising tobacco. They told me absolutely not. But it turns out that the lied - they were sponsored by Philip Morris and they were trying to trick us into doing it despite that. That was very dishonest of them to lie that way. But we did find out and we had to cancel." (Actually, I find this to be relatively good news -- since I had clearly and, apparently, erroneously remembered reading his obit some years back. Good to see he's alive and playing some.) - -- |> ~The only thing that is not art is inattention~ --- Marcel Duchamp <| | jzitt@metatronpress.com http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt | | Latest CD: Jerusaklyn http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt | | Comma: Voices of New Music Silence: the John Cage Discussion List | - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 23:49:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Gabriel Drummer Subject: Re: Grant Green > just a little nice Frisell guitar jazz > record. Hi, Neil. I think you should check Don Byron's Tuskegee Experiments (Elektra). There're two pieces (Byron's "Tuskegee's strutters ball" and Ellington's "Mainstem") where he kicks ass. Also take a look at John Scofield's Grace under pressure (Blue Note), with Charlie Haden and Joey baron. I think those are some of his most "standard" features. If you forgive him a little bit of anything (country included), you must check out LIVE, Bill Frisell w/ Kermit Driscoll and Joey Baron (Gramavison). That's an outstanding live performance in Spain by that trio. Good luck and good listening, Gabriel Puentes __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 12:13:36 +0200 From: "Marcin Gokieli" Subject: Frisell recommendation The best Frisell is IMO the 'live'. It's an incredible album, one of the very best albums of all times (although I must say that i've got his vid from Warsaw a year later, and that show was MUCH better, believe it or not). Buster Keatons are also OK. I like 'gone, like a train' very much (although not 'good dog happy man'). Of course, he's a great 'jazz guitarist', and his works with Motian are worth checking out. Try one of 'on broadway' if youy can grab them (they seem to be out of print - BTW can anybody confirm that?). Speaking of jazz guitar, give Motian's Electric Bebop Band a try. I do not like that much Scofield's Grace under pressure, despite the sco-frisell-haden-baron lineup. (BTW Scofield is about to tour int trio with Swalllow and Stewart. Any rumours about relases?) Marcin Gokieli marcingokieli@go2.pl <> Auden & Kallman, Stravinsky's "The Rake's Progress" - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 12:23:54 +0200 From: "Marcin Gokieli" Subject: a mailing list for electronic musicians I forward you a message sent to me by a friend, Tomek Sikora (halebop@hyperreal.art.pl), who has created a new mailing list. > I'd like to invite to a new mailing list - Virtualsounds. > This mailing list is for people interested in new means of creating sounds > and music. It is aimed mostly at electronic musicians, but everybody, > including sound designers working for film or game industry, etc., is > invited. Main point of discussion concerns latest, computer based tools, > software synthesizers, synthesis techniques etc., but everything goes - > everything that enables you to explore the unknown regions of sound. The > list is not moderated, but spamming, warez related posts, and any kind of > uncivilized behavior will not be tolerated. > Addresses: > Post message: virtualsounds@egroups.com > Subscribe: virtualsounds-subscribe@egroups.com > Unsubscribe: virtualsounds-unsubscribe@egroups.com > URL: http://www.egroups.com/group/virtualsounds > Regards, > Tomek S. > http://hyperreal.pl/halebop - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 14:08:26 CEST From: "Andreas Dietz" Subject: A long Zorn weekend >From: Arthur Rother > >There is allready a cd out with them on it. A whole mix cd with also some >masada string things on it, and >Frith/Laswell/Lombardo with sometimes Zorn or Ribot. I have it at home, but >ofcourse cannot think of the name anymore. itīs the well known latest Zorn CD Taboo and Exile... Andreas Dietz ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 09:01:39 -0400 From: wlt4@mindspring.com Subject: psychedelic info Every time I read the descriptions for all the psychedelic reissues from places like Forced Exposure I always wonder where to find out more info. Is there any place that covers this in some reasonable detail? The websites I've found are pretty spotty and don't seem to review much of the more obscure stuff. I've ordered a couple of copies of Ptolemaic Terrascope (never see it even at the hipper magazine stands) and that's OK. Any suggestions? Lang Adventures In Sound http://wlt4.home.mindspring.com/adventures.htm - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 10:07:40 -0300 From: Linares Hugo Subject: RE: Frisell recommendation Marcin wrote: > sco-frisell-haden-baron lineup. (BTW Scofield is about to tour int trio > with Swalllow and Stewart. Any rumours about relases?) > > > A friend of mine met John Scofield a couple days back in NYC Airport; he was going to Ohio on tour with drummer Ben Perowsky and other musician he couldn't recognize. Sco didn't mention anything about new releases. Hugo Linares (excited with upcoming performance in Argentina of Dave Douglas with Misha Mengelberg) PS: Scofield would be on tour in Argentina in next October. - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 15:42:26 +0200 From: patRice Subject: Re: soprano sax players "Neil H. Enet" wrote: > Hello List, > > I need more recommendations from you guys: > > I'm looking for Soprano Sax players. Anything you recommend: free, bop, > hard bop, avantgarde, whatever!!!!! > if memory serves right, there's also a great track on john coltrane's "gian steps" album on which he plays soprano. (don't have it here, so i can't check right now...) patRice - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 16:57:06 +0200 From: patRice Subject: Re: soprano sax players patRice wrote: > > if memory serves right, there's also a great track on john coltrane's "giant > > steps" album on which he plays soprano. > (don't have it here, so i can't check right now...) > > patRice oops - i'm sorry. i didn't mean "giant steps", i meant "transitions". patRice (wasting your time and bandwith...) - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 11:12:08 -0400 From: Matt Laferty Subject: Re: psychedelic info Yeah, I've looked long and hard, too...the best place that I can find is the Delerium website: http://www.delerium.co.uk/ They have a good mailorder catalog (the paper copy is an invaluabe resource for good reissues) and the online database used to be my homepage for a few months. They tend to be more prog-gy than I like, but overall are the most comprehensive psych reissue review spot I've found. best, Matt At 09:01 AM 7/5/00 -0400, wlt4@mindspring.com wrote: >Every time I read the descriptions for all the psychedelic reissues from places like Forced Exposure I always wonder where to find out more info. Is there any place that covers this in some reasonable detail? The websites I've found are pretty spotty and don't seem to review much of the more obscure stuff. I've ordered a couple of copies of Ptolemaic Terrascope (never see it even at the hipper magazine stands) and that's OK. Any suggestions? > >Lang > >Adventures In Sound >http://wlt4.home.mindspring.com/adventures.htm > >- > > - --- Matt Laferty Department of English, General Literature, & Rhetoric Binghamton University PO Box 6000 Binghamton, NY 13902 607.777.2754 bg60009@binghamton.edu - - ------------------------------ End of Zorn List Digest V2 #988 ******************************* To unsubscribe from zorn-list-digest, send an email to "majordomo@lists.xmission.com" with "unsubscribe zorn-list-digest" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. A non-digest (direct mail) version of this list is also available; to subscribe to that instead, replace all instances of "zorn-list-digest" in the commands above with "zorn-list". Back issues are available for anonymous FTP from ftp.xmission.com, in pub/lists/zorn-list/archive. These are organized by date. Problems? 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