From: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (Zorn List Digest) To: zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: Zorn List Digest V3 #13 Reply-To: zorn-list Sender: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Zorn List Digest Friday, August 18 2000 Volume 03 : Number 013 In this issue: - RE: Joey Baron - We'll soon find out... JAZZ NOTES FOR THURSDAY, 8/17/00 (Sun Ra News) Knitting Factory Hollywood Opens Berne's (L)oops _______steve beresford------- ~ stolen instrument yet more dream syndicate Re: _______steve beresford------- ~ Re: Berne's (L)oops Re: Knitting Factory Hollywood Opens The Funnest Album of the Year Re: The Funnest Album of the Year RE: The Funnest Album of the Year Re: Knitting Factory Hollywood Opens Better Late Than Never Re: Better Late Than Never New Haino record review: Aihiyo Live ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 16:18:25 +0200 From: Verstraeten Stefan Subject: RE: Joey Baron - We'll soon find out... Correct me if I am wrong, but Bruce from Downtown Music Gallery mentionned in one of his newsletter that he will receive two new cds by Joey Baron next week: - -Killer Joey (his new band) - -A new release by his band with Frisell, Blythe and Carter. So does anyone on this list know something more on the latter one? Is this allready the third cd by this outfit? Best wishes Stefan Verstraeten NP Haunted House, live at DGM (Cd-r release... very lo-fi but great shape) - -----Original Message----- From: Theo Klaase [mailto:river_of_dogs@yahoo.com] Sent: donderdag 17 augustus 2000 15:53 To: Zorn List Subject: Joey Baron - We'll soon find out... For those of you who own the album before this one, "Down Home," you will know what to expect. Although I find this album to be a bit more mature, defined, and the ideas are stronger this time around. Nice art work too. The playing has improved as well. It sounds like everyone is supremely comfortable and the solos are pleasant. Joey has some groove oriented solos too, which were really entirely absent from the "Down Home" recording. But, really, how can one go wrong with this line-up.... (frisell, blythe, carter, baron) - -Theo ===== - -That which is Theodorus "Good bye sober day, hello milky way..."www.freeyellow.com/members7/theodorus/index.html __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ - - - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 13:27:04 EDT From: Dgasque@aol.com Subject: JAZZ NOTES FOR THURSDAY, 8/17/00 (Sun Ra News) Thought this might be of interest to some of the Ra fans on this list... << jazz-notes Thursday, 17 August 2000 4:46 (ET) Jazz Notes: Goings on in the jazz world By KEN FRANCKLING, United Press International (snip) On the recording front... Pennsylvania-based Evidence Music is preparing a series of five CD releases due September 26 of rare Sun Ra recordings, including a two-CD boxed set of unreleased material. The series will include "When Angels Speak Of Love" by Sun Ra & His Myth Science Arkestra, "Pathways To Unknown Worlds/Friendly Love" by Sun Ra and His Astro Infinity Arkestra, and three projects by Sun Ra and his Arkestra. They are "Greatest Hits: Easy Listening For Intergalactic Travel," "Lanquidity" and a two-disc set called "The Great Lost Sun Ra Albums: Cymbals & Crystal Spears." Evidence has been working on the series since issuing its award-winning Sun Ra compilation "The Singles" in 1996. The bandleader, composer and keyboardist known as Sun Ra claimed to be an extraterrestrial from the planet Saturn. Actually born Herman "Sonny" Blount in Birmingham, Ala., in 1914, he studied music at Alabama A&M University and became a big-band leader in his hometown. Eventually, he moved to Chicago, where he wrote arrangements for Fletcher Henderson, change his name to Le Sony'r Ra, and start his first "Arkestra" with saxophonists and bandmembers-for-life John Gilmore, Marshall Allen and Pat Patrick. While he left the planet in 1993, the Sun Ra Arkestra continues to perform under the direction of Marshall Allen. Ra's music has influenced musicians ranging from George Clinton to Phish. -- Copyright 2000 by United Press International. All rights reserved. >> =dg= - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 18:41:04 GMT From: "William York" Subject: Knitting Factory Hollywood Opens > > ICP: Sept. 4 > >Wow. The Insane Clown Posse is playing at The Knit? Never would have >guessed. Well... ICP also = Instant Composers Pool, the Dutch big band w/ Misha Mengelberg et al. I'm sorry if I am missing the sarcasm here but that is most probably the ICP they're referring to. WY ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 15:49:40 -0400 From: Dan Hewins Subject: Berne's (L)oops I caught (L)oops last night at Tonic. (L)oops was billed as Tim Berne's electonic project and consisted of Berne (as, bs), Tony Malaby (ts), Tom Rainey (d), Craig Taborn (el. keys), and David Torn (guitar, samplers, effects, electronics, etc.). The first set was an hour long free improv, no compositions. It was just OK. I don't think it worked well. I only saw the first set, I left before the second. Davd Torn had samplers in addition to his guitar and he had access to the other musicians' instuments (via mics) and he sampled them and processed them like in Evan Parker's electro-acoustic music. That was really the only interesting part. The low point, for me, was when Craig Taborn lost control of some keyboard sound that he was generating. He was so engrossed in some other sounds he was making that he didn't notice this horrible white noise gaining volume and power as time passed. It was so bad that I noticed a few members of the audience holding their ears. David Torn looked around inquiringly to find the source of the noise, presumably wondering if he himself was making it. He realized that it was coming from the keyboard amps a while before Craig did. Finally Craig noticed it and turned it down. I have to say that even though Torn contributed most of the interesting material throughout the set, there was very little of it and I personally think that Torn was much of the reason I didn't enjoy it as much as I could. When he wasn't sampling other players (which was relatively rare) he was making very unguitarlike noises with his guitar and many pedals, which is ok, except that I didn't really enjoy those particular noises in the surrounding context. On the other hand, Rainey was great again, as he always is. There were a few 'solo' sections where Tim or Tony would play with the other guys taking a back seat. Those sections were nice. I won't speak for others, I will only note that I saw many of the people in attendance for the first set not stay for the second. You win some, you lose some. I look forward to hearing the potential of this group realized. Dan Hewins - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 05:02:41 +0200 From: rob.allaert@charity.nu Subject: _______steve beresford------- ~ Zorn-agains, Can anyone give some info on Steve Beresford's Cue Sheets. Is this as good as the online one minute previews suggest ? _ Rob ......<..... || http://www.frontstage.com/rob "The goal is to bring the same intensity to listening as the performer to playing". ________________________________ - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 19:51:29 EDT From: Velaires@aol.com Subject: stolen instrument Dear friends: Sorry to bother everyone, but my guitar was stolen today from my apartment in the Silverlake district of Los Angeles. If anyone finds themselves in any place where used instruments are sold, kindly be on the lookout for a Mossman dreadnought accoustic guitar (roundhole), with a rosewood neck and a mustard yellow top. The back is very scratched up, and it has an endpin with a 1/4" phone jack (for plugging into an amp). The tuning pegs are gold plate, and the pickguard is black. The frets are in need of recrowning, too (i.e. they are worn, especially in the first seven frets). The butt-end of its black hardshell case has a blue bumpersticker that reads I LOVE ("love" spelled by a heart) DOWNEY, a sticker on the body area that says TIKI NEWS, and one over the neck area that says DON'T FORGET WINONA. I apologize for the inconvenience, but it is a one-of-a-kind instrument, and, above all an instrument I treasure for personal reasons. Please forward this message to anyone you think may be helpful. The loss of this instrument is hard to accept. Thank you -- skip heller - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 21:08:26 -0400 From: Lang Thompson Subject: yet more dream syndicate http://atlanta.creativeloafing.com/vibes_feature3.html A detailed look at the controversy but not entirely accurate (for instance if something is public domain then a fair use defense is irrelevant). Lang - ------------------------------------------- Adventures In Sound http://wlt4.home.mindspring.com/adventures.htm Full Alert Film Review http://wlt4.home.mindspring.com/fafr.htm Outsider Music Mailing List http://wlt4.home.mindspring.com/outsider.htm Funhouse http://wlt4.home.mindspring.com/funhouse.htm - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 21:58:15 -0400 From: Brian Olewnick Subject: Re: _______steve beresford------- ~ rob.allaert@charity.nu wrote: > > Zorn-agains, > > Can anyone give some info on Steve Beresford's Cue Sheets. Is this as good > as the online one minute previews suggest ? Don't know what's in the sample, but I like this album a lot. Some Balkan influence, a dash of "Signals for Tea" type art-song. Very solid all-around. Brian Olewnick NP: Blitzstein, Airborne Symphony - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 03:45:18 EDT From: IOUaLive1@aol.com Subject: Re: Berne's (L)oops The second set was much, much better. I enjoyed the first set, but it was a bit dense for my tastes. For the second set, everyone just seemed full of creative ideas, the sound mix was better, and they all seemed to be enjoying playing. I'm totally into Torns concept of sampling and looping the other live musicians. Although he actually didnt do as much of this as i was expecting; he did it to a much greater effect at the previous Torn/Berne/Previte gig last year. Five is about the maximum number of musicians i like to hear playing improvised music at the same time. I would love to see this lineup again. Tony Malaby was a surprise for me, I'd only seen him once before, playing tunes, but he's got a great mind for playing improvised stuff. A similar lineup of this group will be touring Europe next may, only Marc Ducret instead of David Torn, and they'll be playing compositions. - -Jody - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 09:13:23 GMT From: "Arthur Gadney" Subject: Re: Knitting Factory Hollywood Opens Hey, >Well... ICP also = Instant Composers Pool, the Dutch big band w/ Misha >Mengelberg et al. I'm sorry if I am missing the sarcasm here but that is >most probably the ICP they're referring to. Yes, without a doubt. If both Misha and Bennink are recording in USA around the same time, it makes alot of sense. May I also insist that everybody in that area go to this concert, especially fans of Insane Clown Possie. They are one of the most exiting bands on the planet, and you might not get the chance to see them in the US anytime soon again... And please drop us a comment about it, if you go... ARTHUR_G ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 12:31:41 -0300 From: Stephen Fruitman Subject: The Funnest Album of the Year Another Norwegian who doesn=B4t know the meaning of the word "purism": Stian Carstensen, _Farmers Market_ (Winter & Winter). Combines jazzy, Gypsy accordian and sundry Bulgarian musicians on their domestic acoustic instruments, with a tight combo of Norwegian jazz musicians and occasional wailing guitars and tape loops and a dash of pickin=B4 and grinnin=B4 straig= ht outta the Ozarks via Constantinople. Once, a small Bulgarian women=B4s choir pokes its head in. Some klezmer. Some ragtime. A remarkable piece for tabla, clarinet, bass and funky wah-wah guitar. Never a hint of that cloying aftertaste that sometimes lingers when someone gets the brilliant idea of combining "ethnic" music and jazz or rock. Rather, there is exhuberance, experimentation, melody, and a highly-developed sense of humour - or what do you say about a Beatles-inspired guitar tune called "Les Paul, More John"? Think Pachora versus Charms of the Night Sky versus Nils Petter Molv=E6r versus the Masada Chamber Ensemble. Another gorgeous W&= W package, too, featuring a booklet full of beautiful b&w photos of Gypsies from Uzbekistan, the Ukraine, Khazakstan and Turkmenistan. This is the kind of album you don=B4t want to write about to describe, but rather just send everybody you know a copy. All the best, Stephen - ---------------------------------------------- Bj=F6rn Olsson, Inst. f=F6r id=E9historia, Ume=E5 universitet 901 87 Ume=E5 tel. 090-7867982 fax 143374 e-post: bjorn.olsson@idehist.umu.se - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 12:03:03 -0500 From: Steve Smith Subject: Re: The Funnest Album of the Year Agreed, fully. One of the very best records I've heard so far this year = - - and one with its tongue planted firmly in its cheek. Nice assessment of the rather uncategorizable music, BTW. I thought of Pachora, Ivo Papsov, drum'n'bass, Headhunters... Steve Smith ssmith36@sprynet.com Stephen Fruitman wrote: > Another Norwegian who doesn=B4t know the meaning of the word "purism": = Stian > Carstensen, _Farmers Market_ (Winter & Winter). Combines jazzy, Gypsy > accordian and sundry Bulgarian musicians on their domestic acoustic > instruments, with a tight combo of Norwegian jazz musicians and occasio= nal > wailing guitars and tape loops and a dash of pickin=B4 and grinnin=B4 s= traight > outta the Ozarks via Constantinople. Once, a small Bulgarian women=B4s = choir > pokes its head in. Some klezmer. Some ragtime. A remarkable piece for > tabla, clarinet, bass and funky wah-wah guitar. Never a hint of that > cloying aftertaste that sometimes lingers when someone gets the brillia= nt > idea of combining "ethnic" music and jazz or rock. Rather, there is > exhuberance, experimentation, melody, and a highly-developed sense of > humour - or what do you say about a Beatles-inspired guitar tune called > "Les Paul, More John"? Think Pachora versus Charms of the Night Sky ver= sus > Nils Petter Molv=E6r versus the Masada Chamber Ensemble. Another gorgeo= us W&W > package, too, featuring a booklet full of beautiful b&w photos of Gypsi= es > from Uzbekistan, the Ukraine, Khazakstan and Turkmenistan. This is the = kind > of album you don=B4t want to write about to describe, but rather just s= end > everybody you know a copy. > > All the best, Stephen > > ---------------------------------------------- > > Bj=F6rn Olsson, > Inst. f=F6r id=E9historia, > Ume=E5 universitet > 901 87 Ume=E5 > tel. 090-7867982 fax 143374 > e-post: bjorn.olsson@idehist.umu.se > > - - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 13:16:58 -0300 From: Linares Hugo Subject: RE: The Funnest Album of the Year > rather uncategorizable music, BTW. I thought of Pachora, Ivo Papsov, > drum'n'bass, Headhunters... > > > By the way, can anyone give any insight / comments on Ivo Papasov's discography? Thanks in advance. Hugo Linares - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 10:42:03 -0700 From: improv@peak.org (Dave Trenkel) Subject: Re: Knitting Factory Hollywood Opens >Hey, > >>Well... ICP also = Instant Composers Pool, the Dutch big band w/ Misha >>Mengelberg et al. I'm sorry if I am missing the sarcasm here but that is >>most probably the ICP they're referring to. > >Yes, without a doubt. If both Misha and Bennink are recording in USA around >the same time, it makes alot of sense. The ICP is also going to be in Portland, OR, on Sept 2nd, so it does make sense. > >May I also insist that everybody in that area go to this concert, especially >fans of Insane Clown Possie. They are one of the most exiting bands on the >planet, and you might not get the chance to see them in the US anytime soon >again... Y'know, an ICP vs ICP face-off could be pretty entertaining, Bennink would probably fit right in with the insane clown dudes :-) ____________________________________________ Dave Trenkel : improv@peak.org Minus Web Site: http://listen.to/minusmusic Minus MP3's: http://www.mp3.com/-minus- ____________________________________________ - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 10:33:04 -0700 From: "s~Z" Subject: Better Late Than Never Did Simon H. Fell's COMPOSITION NO. 30 get discussed to death here at the time of release? I just received it, and it won't leave the airwaves for a long time. Its combination of structure and freedom played on a wondrous combination of traditional, acoustic, electric, and prepared instruments is one of the most satisfying pieces of music I have heard in a long time. - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 13:56:36 EDT From: JonAbbey2@aol.com Subject: Re: Better Late Than Never In a message dated 8/18/00 1:42:09 PM, keith@pfmentum.com writes: << Did Simon H. Fell's COMPOSITION NO. 30 get discussed to death here at the time of release? I just received it, and it won't leave the airwaves for a long time. Its combination of structure and freedom played on a wondrous combination of traditional, acoustic, electric, and prepared instruments is one of the most satisfying pieces of music I have heard in a long time.>> yeah, it'd probably make my short list of best records of the nineties. I posted a rave review here sometime in '98, but I don't seem to have it saved anywhere. this list is archived somewhere, right? Jon www.erstwhilerecords.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 14:10:25 -0400 From: David Keffer Subject: New Haino record review: Aihiyo Live Hello folks on the Zorn list, Well, I have recently heard the new album by Keiji Haino's group, Aihiyo, titled "Live", released on PSF this past June. I haven't seen any reviews of it on this list so I thought I would submit my own. The disc features Keiji Haino (guitar, voice), Ikuro Takahashi (drums) and Masami Kawaguchi (bass). Takahashi was also the drummer for Fushitsusha on the last four releases but has since apparently "retired from music making". The material was culled from Aihiyo live performances in Japan mostly in the spring of last year. As with the previous Aihiyo album (untitled, Tokuma, 1998), the material is all cover songs. 1. Your eyes have the sparkle of 10,000 volts (original by Tatsuo Horiuchi) 2. 150 tons of dynamite (?) 3. Young fellows (?) 4. Be My Baby (Ronettes) 5. Vent your anger (Peter) 6. The rose has bloomed (Mike Maki) 7. The wind is weeping (Mops) 8. Satisfaction (Rolling Stones) 9. Soap bubble (?) I think that Haino fans might be leery of a cover album because what is interesting about Haino is his originality. A cover albums seems in contradiction to this. However, this is no ordinary cover album. The only song whose original I am familiar with is the Rolling Stone's Satisfaction. Haino's interpretation of it is liberal to say the least. It's a 14-minute anthem recognizable as Satisfaction in only a few spots, and then just for short riffs. In all of the songs, Haino's emotion is at the forefront. In all songs, Haino's artistic expression is in full gear. Through-out the disc has an amazing live sound of excellent quality, a trait which has not always been present in Haino's live albums, e.g. the Fushitusha releases on Blast First, Victo, and Charnel Music. I'd almost say it's enough to pick up this disc based purely on the excellent sound quality... At times, Aihiyo leans toward the sound of Haino's solo releases and seems more of an individual effort than Fushitsusha. At other times, the bass and drums are more prominent and the cd does sound a bit like Fushitsusha. But the difference between Aihiyo and the other projects is that Haino is constrained to work within (admittedly broad) parameters of the original songs. This constraint gives the Aihiyo album a bit of a more structured feel than solo or Fushitsusha releases. It's a different setting for Haino and it's one that he has worked to perfect. My gut reaction to the Aihiyo disc is that it doesn't hit the same heights that Fushitsusha or his solo work at its best does (a very high standard). On the other hand, the intention is different and upon repeated listenings, I am less and less apt to feel that this comparison is accurate or even meaningful. At any rate, the disc borders on the fantastic (and I do not make this statement indiscriminately). It's definitely worth checking out (as is the first Aihiyo cd) but this second one, coming off an independent label, is a much cheaper import. D. Keffer Site Maintenance Man An Unofficial Keiji Haino Website (Now An Official Keiji Haino Website, though I am keeping the old name) http://www.planetc.com/users/keffer/haino/index.html - - ------------------------------ End of Zorn List Digest V3 #13 ****************************** To unsubscribe from zorn-list-digest, send an email to "majordomo@lists.xmission.com" with "unsubscribe zorn-list-digest" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. A non-digest (direct mail) version of this list is also available; to subscribe to that instead, replace all instances of "zorn-list-digest" in the commands above with "zorn-list". Back issues are available for anonymous FTP from ftp.xmission.com, in pub/lists/zorn-list/archive. 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