From: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (Zorn List Digest) To: zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: Zorn List Digest V3 #160 Reply-To: zorn-list Sender: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Zorn List Digest Saturday, November 11 2000 Volume 03 : Number 160 In this issue: - remove-list-digest Re: naked city covers (RADIO) hal wilner CDs for auction on eBay Hapna Re: hal wilner Re: hal wilner Re: hal wilner Metal Machine Music AMM photos Re: new Penguin Guide crowns Re: new Penguin Guide crowns Re: DES & Merzbow RE: hal wilner Re: Zorn List Digest V3 #159 Buckethead (Re: Zorn List Digest V3 #159) Fw: Buckethead (Re: Zorn List Digest V3 #159) Re: hal wilner's Indian Re: hal wilner's Indian cusack ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 10:05:34 -0800 (PST) From: marax Subject: remove-list-digest - --0-1365180540-973879534=:27347 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii - --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All with one Wallet. - --0-1365180540-973879534=:27347 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii


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Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All with one Wallet. - --0-1365180540-973879534=:27347-- - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 13:41:59 -0500 From: Maurice Rickard Subject: Re: naked city covers (RADIO) At 1:31 PM +0000 11/10/00, Philippe Dupuis wrote: >hey, > >speaking of naked city covers, does anyone know the name of >the picture (by man ray i think) that's in the RADIO album? > La Pri=E8re (1930). Glad to help, Maurice - -- Maurice Rickard http://mauricerickard.com/ - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 13:56:41 -0500 From: kurt_gottschalk@scni.com Subject: hal wilner as julian pointed out, 'weird nightmare' isn't a band, but i'd like to encourage the original poster (and anyone who hasn't) to investigate more of wilner's productions if you like this one. weird nightmare might be the best of the lot, but 'stay awake' (disney music) has its charm. 'that's the way i feel now' is soon to be reissued on cd with the zorn track put back on, and there's a lot of other great stuff, too. the nino rota one isn't really as striking, i thinks. the use of the partch instruments gives the mingus disc a really nice cohesiveness. the others sound more like the hit-or-miss tribute comps they are. after some of the talk here, i managed to find a beat-up copy of wilner's 'i am an indian,' which i really like. nothing what i expected. but the disc i bought came with no notes, art. anyone here i could get to copy the booklet for me? also, i'm looking for some help with a vinyl to cdr transfer for a holiday gift. anyone (in nyc, i guess) i could get to help? i'd offer money or boots to trade. >> like,I'm new to this list,so,be gentle,guys...who is this Weird >Nightmare >> band????I have one of their albums,called meditation on mingus,and sounds >> very familiar....is the any connection to Zorn???? > That album is a tribute to Charles Mingus, they are not really a 'band' as > such, just a mixed bunch of musicians - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 16:08:58 -0500 From: Dan Hewins Subject: CDs for auction on eBay Sorry for the cross-post but I think there are things for auction here that would interest a bunch of different people. If you don't like this, please delete this message. There's a Sony DAT walkman up for bid as well. Look here for my auctions: http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems&userid=hewins&include=0&since=-1&sort=2&rows=25 Thanks, Dan Hewins - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 15:15:21 CST From: "Ben Axelrad" Subject: Hapna the european free improvisation page lists a new swedish label, hapna. does anyone know if these are distributed in the us? also, has anyone heard the rudiger carl/sven-ake johansson disc?? thanks, ben _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 16:42:40 -0500 From: Steve Smith Subject: Re: hal wilner kurt_gottschalk@scni.com wrote: > as julian pointed out, 'weird nightmare' isn't a band, but i'd like to encourage > the original poster (and anyone who hasn't) to investigate more of wilner's > productions if you like this one. > > weird nightmare might be the best of the lot, but 'stay awake' (disney music) > has its charm. 'that's the way i feel now' is soon to be reissued on cd with the > zorn track put back on, and there's a lot of other great stuff, too. the nino > rota one isn't really as striking, i thinks. I'm still completely smitten with the first Kurt Weill tribute, 'Lost in the Stars' (A&M). Yes, it may be a "hit and miss" tribute compilation, but so much of it hits for me on so many different levels. Sting's "Mack the Knife" and Stan Ridgway's "Cannon Song" are both successful poppish readings. Marianne Faithfull's "Ballad of the Soldier's Wife" is fine and decadent, Richard Butler's "Alabama Song" ain't bad, and even Lou Reed's cranky geezer take on "September Song" amuses me. On the jazz side, there's a lush reading of "Lost in the Stars" by Phil Woods with Carla Bley's band and a dreamy "Speak Low" by Charlie Haden and Sharon Freeman, not to mention the bold whoops and blasts of Henry Threadgill's "The Great Hall." And further out, Zorn's "Little Lieutenant of the Loving God" is an important step on the path to 'The Big Gundown,' Elliott Sharp's "Meatball Song" is distiguished by Sussan Dehiem's vocal gurgle, and Tom Waits's "What Keeps Mankind Alive" is brutally squalid. An incredibly important album for me when it first appeared, and it still holds up 15 years later. The later Weill tribute on Columbia has less of interest. But I strongly recommend this one. And I eagerly await the reissue of the Monk tribute, one of very few recordings where I ditched the CD version and clung to the vinyl. 'Stay Awake' is fun, too, but definitely tilted more to the pop side of the spectrum. (Marginally related: does anyone know if the audiobook version of William S. Burroughs reading 'Naked Lunch' with accompaniment by Frisell and Horvitz was ever made available on CD? I passed on the cassettes, snob that I am...) Steve Smith ssmith36@sprynet.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 13:53:07 -0800 From: "Patrice L. Roussel" Subject: Re: hal wilner On Fri, 10 Nov 2000 16:42:40 -0500 Steve Smith wrote: > > (Marginally related: does anyone know if the audiobook version of > William S. > Burroughs reading 'Naked Lunch' with accompaniment by Frisell and > Horvitz was ever > made available on CD? I passed on the cassettes, snob that I am...) Yes: - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 094 - NAKED LUNCH: William S. Burroughs Music by Bill Frisell, Wayne Horvitz, and Eyvind Kang. Produced by Hal Willner and James Grauerholz Bill Frisell; Wayne Horvitz; Eyvind Kang. 1995 - Warner (USA), 2-522206 (3xCD) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ although I have never seen it. Also, I was not aware of its availability on tapes. Patrice. - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 13:58:22 -0800 (PST) From: SUGAR in their vitamins? Subject: Re: hal wilner On Fri, 10 Nov 2000, Patrice L. Roussel wrote: > although I have never seen it. Also, I was not aware of its availability on > tapes. i have the cd set. it's not complete, alas. i have seen the cassette version - apparently it is more complete but it could be the same abridged version. hasta. Yes. Beautiful, wonderful nature. Hear it sing to us: *snap* Yes. natURE. - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 19:07:43 EST From: BlackBook78@aol.com Subject: Metal Machine Music - --part1_b4.d085560.273de7cf_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello- Since this has been reissued recently, I was wondering what everyones thoughts were on Lou Reeds stake in experimental noise............ - --part1_b4.d085560.273de7cf_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello-

Since this has been reissued recently, I was wondering what everyones
thoughts were on Lou Reeds stake in experimental noise............ - --part1_b4.d085560.273de7cf_boundary-- - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 19:42:55 EST From: JonAbbey2@aol.com Subject: AMM photos some cool photos of AMM and a few other acts at the Autumn Uprising festival at: http://thefsb.org/au2k/ 34-36 are during the AMM set. 24-27 are from the solo Rowe set. Jon www.erstwhilerecords.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 20:04:40 EST From: Jeffcalt@aol.com Subject: Re: new Penguin Guide crowns Since those of us in the States have to wait a few more months for the new Penguin, i'm curious if the new edition has entries on reissues from some of the smaller/ medium size labels, particularly Knitting Factory (for example, all the Ronald Shannon Jackson and Rashied Ali reissues) and 32 Jazz (all the Rahsaan Roland Kirks and Woody Shaw reissues)? jeff caltabiano n.p. leon parker: belief (1996) ...not reviewed in the '98 edition - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 17:20:27 -0800 From: William Crump Subject: Re: new Penguin Guide crowns Jeffcalt@aol.com wrote: > Since those of us in the States have to wait a few more months for the new > Penguin, i'm curious if the new edition has entries on reissues from some of > the smaller/ medium size labels, particularly Knitting Factory (for example, > all the Ronald Shannon Jackson and Rashied Ali reissues) and 32 Jazz (all the > Rahsaan Roland Kirks and Woody Shaw reissues)? > > jeff caltabiano > n.p. leon parker: belief (1996) ...not reviewed in the '98 edition > > - Hey, guess what, person in the States... you DON'T have to wait. When Jon dropped the bomb on us that the 5th edition was out (much shorter wait than the wait between the 3rd and 4th editions!), I immediately went to amazon.co.uk and ordered myself a copy. Even with overseas airmail shipping, it came out to less than 20 British pounds, and it's a 1742-page hardcover. It should fall into my lap early next week. (I'll wear a cup that day.) Why wait? William Crump - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 18:06:32 -0800 (PST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?A?= Subject: Re: DES & Merzbow I remember that I saw on the Relapse Records mailorder catalog a while ago some 7" that was credited to Masami Akita and Dave Witte (Discordance Axis drummer). The project was called Abe Sada and the 7" s title was "Original Body Kingdom", if I'm not getting a horrible mix-up right now. - ----------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 19:43:44 EST From: APoesia794@aol.com almost...merzbow did a remix for the band discordance axis who are pretty damn fast and furious... <<(Mmmm, what about DES teaming up with someone like Merzbow..)>> - - - __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 18:11:57 -0800 From: "Fag music" Subject: RE: hal wilner Since I'm the original poster, I'll try to find some of its stuff then.Thanks,dude. Sweet nightmares, Mango Mingus >From: kurt_gottschalk@scni.com >Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 13:56:41 -0500 >To: >Subject: hal wilner > > >as julian pointed out, 'weird nightmare' isn't a band, but i'd like to encourage >the original poster (and anyone who hasn't) to investigate more of wilner's >productions if you like this one. > >weird nightmare might be the best of the lot, but 'stay awake' (disney music) >has its charm. 'that's the way i feel now' is soon to be reissued on cd with the >zorn track put back on, and there's a lot of other great stuff, too. the nino >rota one isn't really as striking, i thinks. - ------------------------------------------------------------ How do you spell EMAIL? You @ 37.com - The world's easiest free Email address Get your free email at: http://email.37.com/ - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 00:07:09 EST From: CDiggz@aol.com Subject: Re: Zorn List Digest V3 #159 .is there any truth to the rumor that buckethead is the new guitar player for guns n roses ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 00:15:41 EST From: Jeffcalt@aol.com Subject: Buckethead (Re: Zorn List Digest V3 #159) CDiggz@aol.com writes: > is there any truth to the rumor that buckethead is the new guitar player for > guns n roses i spoked to a guy who's in the music industry here in L.A. and he said Axl's had a revolving group of musicians play with him over the past few years--none of whom have had the patience to stick around. he says Buckethead has recorded with Axl (who retains the Guns n Roses name), but doubts highly that he'll be an actual member (more recording, touring, etc.). it would be a bad career move. Axl's a has-been. - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 01:50:28 -0400 From: "Sh" Subject: Fw: Buckethead (Re: Zorn List Digest V3 #159) Actually, Guns' management, Big F.D., officially announced that Buckethead and Robin Finck are now part of the band, and Bob Ezrin is the A&R guy. I think Brain has since been confirmed to be behind the kit. "They" [Guns] are going to play their first show in seven years (Rock In Rio) in January, and a world tour is perhaps in the making starting next summer. > > is there any truth to the rumor that buckethead is the new guitar player > for > > guns n roses - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 11:48:07 GMT From: "M. pathos" Subject: Re: hal wilner's Indian If anyone would care to pass on info (esp. musical content and personnel credits) about Wilner's "solo" lp "Whoops! I'm an Indian!" I'd appreciate it. It it's ever been available in Canada, I've sure never seen it (not for wont of trying). Thanks in advance. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 09:43:27 -0500 From: fate@telepath.com (Your Imaginary Friend) Subject: Re: hal wilner's Indian >If anyone would care to pass on info (esp. musical content and personnel >credits) about Wilner's "solo" lp "Whoops! I'm an Indian!" I'd appreciate >it. It it's ever been available in Canada, I've sure never seen it (not for >wont of trying). Thanks in advance. _Whoops I'm an Indian_ is pure samplemania, obviously a by-product of Willner's enormous and eclectic record collection. Hence, the handful of folks credited on the recording are: HW - samples Mocean Worker (Adam Dorn) - beats Martin Brumbach - mix Ralph Carney - woodwinds on 4 tracks The record was a motherfucker to find - I finally eyeballed a vinyl copy at Mod Lang in Berkeley while on vacation last year, then mail-ordered the cd from them after I got back to Oklahoma. I'd recommend trying them... www.modlang.com (although the site hasn't been updated for a couple of months...). Jon Mooneyham _________________________ Radio Free Norman 96.7 FM http://radiofreenorman.20m.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 13:13:14 EST From: Acousticlv@aol.com Subject: cusack In a message dated 11/9/00 7:31:56 PM, you wrote: << Is this the same artist that has a new cd on ReR, Where is the Green > Parrot? Anyone heard this and care to comment? >> howdy'i just reviewed this in Signal to Noise. I'll edit myself here and recommend folks find SiggyNoiz anyway. yrs steve koenig Peter Cusack Where Is The Green Parrot? (Pieces, Recordings & In Betweens) ReR Megacorp RER PC1 (distrib by Cuneiform Wayside) Jacques Lejeune Messe Aux Oiseaux (Bird Mass) GMVL (Groupe Musiques Vivantes Lyon) CD06 (distrib by Anomalous) One division electo-acoustic recordings has been to take field recordings an= d=20 process them, as exemplified by such masterworks as FranciscoLopez=92 use of= =20 insects in Addy and the Locusts on ND. Cusack uses a variant tack here, for= =20 the most part, combining straight or doped-up field recordings with the=20 audio-travelogue genre. It opens with the two-minute =93Echo Location,=94 a= =20 barking or houghing sound soon overlaid with an electronic ratchet, ending=20 with a bizarre echo that leaves your speakers sharp left and sharp right. =20 Indeed, these are not processed but the call of a roe deer and 2 a.m.=20 nightjars. I=92ve always wondered what nightjars sounded like since Elton=20 John=92s =93Come Down In Time=94: =93A cluster of nightjars sang some songs=20= out of=20 tune.=94 The 25 minute suite =93Where Is The Green Parrot=94 opens with bouzouki, qui= te=20 beautifully played; then enter the birds. Woodlarks and seabirds are=20 combined with =94live controlled tapes and sampled sounds.=94 The choice an= d=20 flow of the various sounds are quite moving, an overhead airplane comes as a= =20 surprise, and the final section, =93pets (Talking to the Animals)=94 has a m= ale=20 voice exhorting some birds to talk, saying =93Go on,=94 and =93That=92s very= nice.=94 =20 As these are mimicking birds, is it the birds speaking or a human? =93Two Boys Going Shopping=94 will be found either charming or self-indulgen= t, a=20 fifteen minute excursion by Cusack pere et fils, four years old, in a toy=20 shop, travel agency and guitar shop. Their chat is punctuated by the sounds= =20 you=92d expect. The disc closes with five stunning segued pieces, assumedly= =20 straight field recordings, using a metal gangplank dragged across a stone=20 dock, kids playing in an underground tunnel, factory sirens, and the sound o= f=20 dead leaves on an oak blowing in the wind. Jacques Lejeune=92s birds fly in a totally different direction. A=20 seventy-minute electroacoustic mass, Messe Aux Oiseaux uses nearly every=20 electroacoustic device from collage to tape manipulation and fractured sound= .=20 Starting with computer-derived sounds, with birds, manipulated orchestral=20 (taken from Richard Strauss=92 =93A Heroe=92s Life), choral, and vocal sound= s. The=20 notes (French only) refer to country sounds and various human individuals an= d=20 groups: children and adults, madmen and choirs. The text of the Mass is=20 given in Latin and French, but you cannot hear to it in this composition,=20 although parts flow in and out. Naturally, there is reference to lamb in=20 Agnus Dei, but no birds. The notes say that contrary to the title, the piec= e=20 is above all concerned with the picturesque. Rain, airpanes, jaw harp,=20 choruses, electronic sounds create a mighty arc and Messe Aux Oiseaux is an=20 emotionally moving creation. (GMVL, 7 Rue du Mail, 69004 Lyons, France.) - - ------------------------------ End of Zorn List Digest V3 #160 ******************************* To unsubscribe from zorn-list-digest, send an email to "majordomo@lists.xmission.com" with "unsubscribe zorn-list-digest" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. A non-digest (direct mail) version of this list is also available; to subscribe to that instead, replace all instances of "zorn-list-digest" in the commands above with "zorn-list". Back issues are available for anonymous FTP from ftp.xmission.com, in pub/lists/zorn-list/archive. These are organized by date. Problems? 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