From: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (Zorn List Digest) To: zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: Zorn List Digest V3 #178 Reply-To: zorn-list Sender: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Zorn List Digest Monday, November 27 2000 Volume 03 : Number 178 In this issue: - matt shipp says hi Behave,animals Re: Behave,animals RE: The Funnest Album of the Year Masada European Tour Dates Joe McPhee/Dominic Duval Re: Joe McPhee/Dominic Duval TIME-OUT! Bootsy's boots Masada December 9th in New York... ostertag and minton in souther germany Re: The Funnest Album of the Year Re: TIME-OUT! Re: The Funnest Album of the Year Re: The Funnest Album of the Year Re: The Funnest Album of the Year Re: The Funnest Album of the Year new Incus releases Re: new Incus releases Re: new Incus releases ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 12:29:57 EST From: Acousticlv@aol.com Subject: matt shipp says hi howdy, gang. i mentioned to mr shipp about the zorn-list conversations about him. he was pleasantly amused and confirmed what i had said about him here before; he had enough in the can already and wanted to give buyers a rest; we laughed about how we both have bought way too many discs to absorb, and he had that same fear about his disc-buying audience regarding himself. then he chuckled to himself, and confirmed, yes, the deal with thirsty ear made him reconsider and indeed in making new recordings to that series he's curating for thirsty ear. upcoming is shipp's session with leo smith, among others. he said it's his favorite so far, and then laughed at himself, saying he says that about every new disc, but he does really feel that way each time. he gave me an okay to report this to you, and wished all a happy thanksgiving as do i with love steve koenig. n.p.: bonnie pointer "heaven must have sent you," motown 7" dancemix (diff from 12" & LP) - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 10:08:50 -0800 From: "Fag music" Subject: Behave,animals Well, I got one album from Death cube k,called Disembodied,and is good.Someone said is more guitar oriented,but the only one I thought was more guitar-oriented is the second track....anyway,it's cool if you're into Bill,but some bucketeers might not like it.I'd recommend Praxis for Bucketheaders.By the way,now that I mentioned it:does anyone know what's the lineup for Praxis's Mold?Cause it sure don't sound like Praxis,and I doubt Bucky's on it,since I didn't hear any guitars...it's more ambient,I guess.Anyone has any comments on any track of this album?Thank ya. Throes, Rasputin - ------------------------------------------------------------ http://e2893.37.com/Free-E-Card/ <--- You Have A Greeting :) - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 14:08:39 EST From: Stinkipipi@aol.com Subject: Re: Behave,animals - --part1_80.35a61a7.27516837_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit it's reworkings of the original praxis 12" that laswell did (solo) in 1984. dave - --part1_80.35a61a7.27516837_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit it's reworkings of the original praxis 12" that laswell did (solo) in 1984.

dave - --part1_80.35a61a7.27516837_boundary-- - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 23:55:16 -0200 From: "Hugo Linares" Subject: RE: The Funnest Album of the Year Just to thank Stephen for his insight on this recording, regarding its remarkable and beautiful. For those who still haven't got it, don't miss Stian Carstensen's Farmers Market. It's pure bliss !! Later, Hugo Linares - ----- Mensaje original ----- De: Stephen Fruitman Para: Enviado: Viernes 18 de Agosto de 2000 01:31 PM Asunto: The Funnest Album of the Year Another Norwegian who doesn´t know the meaning of the word "purism": Stian Carstensen, _Farmers Market_ (Winter & Winter). Combines jazzy, Gypsy accordian and sundry Bulgarian musicians on their domestic acoustic instruments, with a tight combo of Norwegian jazz musicians and occasional wailing guitars and tape loops and a dash of pickin´ and grinnin´ straight outta the Ozarks via Constantinople. Once, a small Bulgarian women´s choir pokes its head in. Some klezmer. Some ragtime. A remarkable piece for tabla, clarinet, bass and funky wah-wah guitar. Never a hint of that cloying aftertaste that sometimes lingers when someone gets the brilliant idea of combining "ethnic" music and jazz or rock. Rather, there is exhuberance, experimentation, melody, and a highly-developed sense of humour - or what do you say about a Beatles-inspired guitar tune called "Les Paul, More John"? Think Pachora versus Charms of the Night Sky versus Nils Petter Molvær versus the Masada Chamber Ensemble. Another gorgeous W&W package, too, featuring a booklet full of beautiful b&w photos of Gypsies from Uzbekistan, the Ukraine, Khazakstan and Turkmenistan. This is the kind of album you don´t want to write about to describe, but rather just send everybody you know a copy. All the best, Stephen - ---------------------------------------------- Björn Olsson, Inst. för idéhistoria, Umeå universitet 901 87 Umeå tel. 090-7867982 fax 143374 e-post: bjorn.olsson@idehist.umu.se - - - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 15:53:08 -0000 From: "Andrew Sternberg" Subject: Masada European Tour Dates I am brand new to this list and wondering if anyone knows of Masada's itinerary for the next couple of weeks. I will be sticking here in Prague to see them opening the alternative festival (http://alternativa-festival.cz) on Monday the 27th, w/ Dave Douglass, Joey Baron and Greg Cohen. wondering what dates follow up this one, or must I inquire with the man myself. _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 23:42:22 -0500 From: Mike Chamberlain Subject: Joe McPhee/Dominic Duval Hi, Sorry to bother the list, but I've looked all around without success for info on this recording, which I saw mentioned here a short while ago. Can someone please give me info about title, label, recording date, etc.? Thank you. - --Mike - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 22:20:47 -0800 From: "s~Z" Subject: Re: Joe McPhee/Dominic Duval THE DREAM BOOK Cadence Jazz Records CJR1105 http://www.allaboutjazz.com/REVIEWS/R1199_162.HTM By Derek Taylor Unlike Ellington celebrations, tributes to Ornette Coleman are a relative rarity. The disparity is interesting considering that many in creative improvised music circles regard Coleman=92s radical innovations as of par= allel importance to those of the Duke. McPhee and Duval go a long way towards rectifying this gap on this disc. Recorded live at the Knitting Factory during a series of concerts McPhee was commissioned to perform, each of t= he pieces in this concert is dedicated to individual members of Coleman=92s = small combos. The opening =93Dance of the Reasons Why,=94 the longest of the tu= nes, is for Dewey Redman. McPhee=92s curvaceous improvisations on alto recall the= dry, dulcet tone of the tenorman with supernatural accuracy. On =93Beyond the Truth/Lies,=94 a piece for Charlie Haden, Duval=92s improvisations on Hut= chins bass, a smaller, specially constructed variant of the double bass which a emits a resounding string sound just below the cello range, are positivel= y ear-bending. He crafts a delicate pizzicato solo that perfectly echoes Ha= den =92s legendary corpulence on the strings and McPhee=92s dance with the me= lody, again on alto, is no less breathtaking in its brilliance. McPhee swaps sax for trumpet on =93Moffet=92s Motif=94 slurring rueful ph= rases while Duval generates percussive patters on the wooden body of his bass. =93Old Eyes=94 salutes the Coleman himself in an opening alto solo that b= rings tears to the eyes with its blatant beauty. =93Caught In the Moment,=94 wh= ich is for David Izenzon, is curious in that Duval sticks to pizzicato, avoiding his bow and the arco technique for which Izenzon was so renowned. The bassist unsheathes his bow briefly on =93And Then Red,=94 for Scott LaFar= o, a tune is steeped with tactile melancholy. The concluding =93Celebration=94 celebrates Don Cherry in a solo coda for pocket trumpet. McPhee=92s lucen= t lines on the brass instrument that Cherry first made his leaps forward on= in Coleman=92s original quartet make for a fitting end to this priceless dis= c. In his liners McPhee makes the point that so often tributes are made after their recipient has passed. Taking the lead he shows us that rather than waiting for their absence, we should honor such mentors with thanks while they are still among us. Personnel: Joe McPhee- alto saxophone, pocket trumpet, Dominic Duval- Hutchins bass. Track Listing: Dance of the Reasons Why, Beyond the Truth/Lies, Moffet=92= s Motif, Old Eyes, Caught in the Moment, And Then Red, Celebration. Recorded: August 27, 1998, The Knitting Factory, New York City, NY. Available through Cadence/NorthCountry Distributors www.cadencebuilding.com ) - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 02:26:05 EST From: XRedbirdxx@aol.com Subject: TIME-OUT! hi, does anyone else feel swamped by the z-list? i don't post often, but value it as an erudite informational source. but i'm a busy guy, and i just cannot keep up with the emails (digest of course); i'm just finishing october! i BEG the following: update the FAQ, so less of the same-old often-seen questions. dont use the list because you're too lazy to get on the net and find the email for nonesuch, and such. always keep the subject line specific. this is an issue when a topic wanders off into a different or more specific direction (i.e. tonic deconstructionism shows leading to laswell reccs, but the subject line remained the same throughout). PLEASE and THANK YOU! - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 01:38:18 -0800 From: "Fag music" Subject: Bootsy's boots Hey, dudes.Just came by to say that some of you would like to give a shot to Zillatron's ''Lord of the harvest''.Why?Cause it's cool.And that's the deal.BUT,if we need something to keep it in the avant-garde,there you go...Bootsy Collin's on it.And I was just wondering...who plays with Bootsy on that Zillatron record?Looks like the guy who speaks on Buckethead's first track on Monsters and robots(''I can never stop working hard,blah blah) is on it.Any info?Also,fans of The Residents should check out Moog Cookbook,although it is way poppy...ah,what the hell. Collins, Bugg Lite - ------------------------------------------------------------ http://e2893.37.com/Free-E-Card/ <--- You Have A Greeting :) - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 04:11:10 -0800 (PST) From: Theo Klaase Subject: Masada December 9th in New York... Does anyone have the specific address for the venue of this show? I'm traveling from Florida and the address on the tickets doesn't show up on yahoo maps.com.... Does this venue have a web site? Any information is greatly appreciated... - -Theo __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 13:38:36 +0100 (MET) From: zxmqq16@student.uni-tuebingen.de Subject: ostertag and minton in souther germany announcement of two OSTERTAG / MINTON gigs in southern Germany: Dec 3: ULM, at the ROXY Dec 4: TUEBINGEN, at SUDHAUS bjoern - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 15:52:10 +0100 From: "dekater" Subject: Re: The Funnest Album of the Year - -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: dekater Aan: Hugo Linares Datum: zondag 26 november 2000 15:26 Onderwerp: Re: The Funnest Album of the Year > >-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >Van: Hugo Linares >Aan: Zorn-list ; Stephen Fruitman > >Datum: zondag 26 november 2000 3:55 >Onderwerp: RE: The Funnest Album of the Year > > >. >>For those who still haven't got it, don't miss Stian Carstensen's Farmers >>Market. >>It's pure bliss !! >> >>Later, >> >>Hugo Linares > > I fully agree! Does someone know more about Carstensen's recordings? Jan Luyben - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 10:32:51 -0500 From: Mike Chamberlain Subject: Re: TIME-OUT! on 11/27/00 2:26 AM, XRedbirdxx@aol.com at XRedbirdxx@aol.com wrote: > hi, > > does anyone else feel swamped by the z-list? It's funny that you should ask this question after the Thanksgiving weekend, when the list has been unusually quiet. But no, most of the time I do not feel swamped by the list. > i don't post often, but value it > as an erudite informational source. but i'm a busy guy, and i just cannot > keep up with the emails (digest of course); i'm just finishing october! i BEG > the following: > > update the FAQ, so less of the same-old often-seen questions. Good suggestion. > > dont use the list because you're too lazy to get on the net and find the > email for nonesuch, and such. Good suggestion, but for whatever reason, sometimes people cannot find what they're looking for. Also, their may be newcomers to the net whose search capabilities are not well-developed. I don't find that we get so many posts like this, though. > > always keep the subject line specific. Mr. Redbird, your subject line on this message is one of the least specific that I have ever seen. - --Mike - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 16:47:21 +0100 From: "Marius Ergo" Subject: Re: The Funnest Album of the Year > >>For those who still haven't got it, don't miss Stian Carstensen's >Farmers > >>Market. > >>It's pure bliss !! > >> > >>Later, > >> > >>Hugo Linares > > > > >I fully agree! Does someone know more about Carstensen's recordings? > >Jan Luyben Have you guys heard Carstensens guitar playing? It's totally amazing. He was originally a guitarist, but the guys in Farmers Market convinced him to take up his childhood instrument, accordion. Check out www.farmersmusic.com There is also a great interview with Stian on the equally great site jazzscene.no Here is the URL: http://jazzscene.no/jazz/index.html Check out the first Farmers Market release: Speed/Balkan/Boogie - - Marius _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 10:48:14 -0500 From: Steve Smith Subject: Re: The Funnest Album of the Year I, too, would like to voice my thanks to Stephen for having called our attention to the Farmers Market release. For what it's worth, here's my little review, which ran in the November issue of Jazziz: Farmers Market 'Farmers Market' (Winter & Winter) Balkan-jazz crossover may be well-established by now, especially on this side of the Atlantic. But seemingly from out of nowhere comes the Finnish/Bulgarian quintet Farmers Market with a self-titled album that kicks the burgeoning genre sideways a notch or three. The album's first two tunes are fairly respectful of Bulgarian tradition, the second a feature for a quartet of guest vocalists who sing in a style made familiar by Les Mystere des Voix Bulgares. Not until the third track, "Graovo Dance," is there any indication of the album's subsersive bent, as growling electric guitar notes lead into a funky drum'n'bass-influenced groove and a thumping bassline, while folkish flutes twitter above and tablas burble below. From there, it's anything goes. "Les Paul, More John" sets a Beatles-esque bassline in 9/8 under guitar solos evoking Nashville one moment, psychedelia the next. "Some Fag Rag" uses ragtimey piano and banjo to bite Spike Jones, Frank Zappa, and Glenn Miller is the space of three-and-a-half minutes. "Jog Trot" edges into Laswell territory with dubby bass and tabla, while "The Straight One" tucks in a bit of King Sunny Ade's juju magic. Nearly indescribable, and packaged with the arthouse chic customary of Winter & Winter, 'Farmers Market' is one of the most unexpected delights of the year. Steve Smith ssmith36@sprynet.com NP - Cuong Vu, "Vina, All Grown Up," 'Pure' (Knitting Factory) - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 17:51:11 +0100 From: "Marius Ergo" Subject: Re: The Funnest Album of the Year But seemingly from out of nowhere comes the >Finnish/Bulgarian quintet Farmers Market with a self-titled album that >kicks >the burgeoning genre sideways a notch or three. > Farmers Market are not from Finland, but from Norway, with the exception of alto saxophonist Trifon Trifonov, who is from Bulgaria. - - Marius _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 11:53:42 -0500 From: Steve Smith Subject: Re: The Funnest Album of the Year Marius Ergo wrote: > But seemingly from out of nowhere comes the > >Finnish/Bulgarian quintet Farmers Market with a self-titled album that > >kicks > >the burgeoning genre sideways a notch or three. > > > > Farmers Market are not from Finland, but from Norway, with the exception of > alto saxophonist Trifon Trifonov, who is from Bulgaria. Yup, so I've discovered since. My bad. Shame the editor didn't catch it either... SS - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 12:26:03 EST From: JonAbbey2@aol.com Subject: new Incus releases from www.incusrecords.force9.co.uk: AVAILABLE FROM 1st December 2000 INCUS CD 39 Joseph Holbrooke '98 Derek Bailey guitar=A0=A0=A0 Gavin Bryars bass=A0=A0=A0 Tony Oxley drums First performance together since 1966 Recorded in the Stadgarten Cologne October 1998 =A0 INCUS CD 40 SONGS VOICE KEIJI HAINO GUITAR DEREK BAILEY - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 12:32:17 -0500 From: Steve Smith Subject: Re: new Incus releases Wow. Hey, Santa, could I have a word with you... ;-) Steve Smith ssmith36@sprynet.com NP - Cuong Vu, "I Shall Never Come Back," 'Pure' (Knitting Factory) JonAbbey2@aol.com wrote: > from www.incusrecords.force9.co.uk: > > AVAILABLE FROM 1st December 2000 > > INCUS CD 39 > > Joseph Holbrooke '98 > > Derek Bailey guitar=A0=A0=A0 Gavin Bryars bass=A0=A0=A0 Tony Oxley drum= s > > First performance together since 1966 > > Recorded in the Stadgarten Cologne October 1998 > > =A0 > INCUS CD 40 > > SONGS > > VOICE KEIJI HAINO > GUITAR DEREK BAILEY > > - - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 12:44:37 -0500 From: wlt4@mindspring.com Subject: Re: new Incus releases >Joseph Holbrooke '98 I saw a listing from the Cortical Foundation for two Joseph Holbrooke albums with no further info. Anybody know anything about those? 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