From: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (Zorn List Digest) To: zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: Zorn List Digest V3 #198 Reply-To: zorn-list Sender: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Zorn List Digest Thursday, December 14 2000 Volume 03 : Number 198 In this issue: - Re:Blind Willie -infirmities of blues singers Re: monk Re: Re:Blind Willie -infirmities of blues singers Re:monk Re: monk Re: Re:Blind Willie -infirmities of blues singers new charizmha cd Re: monk Re: new charizmha cd Re: Blind Willie -infirmities of blues singers Bobby Previte Re:Blind Willie -infirmities of blues singers Re: bill laswell Frank Zappa (No Zorn Content) Masada in Europe next fall Re: Frank Zappa (No Zorn Content) Re: Frank Zappa (No Zorn Content) Re: Frank Zappa (No Zorn Content) Re: Frank Zappa (No Zorn Content) Re: Frank Zappa (No Zorn Content) Re: Bobby Previte ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 13:00:34 -0500 From: David Beardsley Subject: Re:Blind Willie -infirmities of blues singers JonAbbey2@aol.com writes: > Blind Willie Johnson is amazing, by the way, for anyone who hasn't heard him. > up there with Skip James, Howlin' Wolf and Muddy Waters in my personal > pantheon of blues musicians. get the remastered double CD on Columbia/Legacy, > though, not the individual ones on Yazoo which are very hard to listen to > with all of the surface noise. Hi Jon, I'll second that. Simply amazing. - -- * D a v i d B e a r d s l e y * 49/32 R a d i o "all microtonal, all the time" * http://www.virtulink.com/immp/lookhere.htm - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 13:26:25 -0500 (EST) From: Adam Taylor Tierney Subject: Re: monk On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Philippe Dupuis wrote: > hey, > > i saw a documentary on thelonius monk a while back, it was in > black and white and very grainy. in it monk is sitting down by > a piano being interviewed and the guy asks him why he still > has his coat on ... monk points to the piano's label design and > it says WINTER. > > now, i've just seen a monk film called straight no chaser in a > magazin at the video store where i work ... is it the same film? > > i want to order it if it is. > > thanks, > martin > > p.s. can anyone comment on the films of maya deren, what are they > like? her husband did the film scores, he has an album on tzadik > called KING UBU. > > - > > I'm not sure whether that scene's in it, because it's been a while since I've seen the film, but "Straight No Chaser" is a documentary about monk produced by Clint Eastwood and directed by Charlotte Zwerin. It's mostly just rare footage of Monk in concert and in private with a little biographical material, and as a result is primarily in grainy black and white, so it's probably the movie you saw. - --Adam Tierney - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 19:06:08 +0100 From: "Francesco Martinelli" Subject: Re: Re:Blind Willie -infirmities of blues singers > Blind Willie Johnson > Blind Willie McTell > Blind Boy Fuller > Blind Sonny Terry > Blind Lemon Jefferson > Blind Blake > Blind Gary Davis > Cripple Clarence Lofton > Peg Leg Howell > You're forgetting perhaps the greatest, Blind Orange Washington, whose obituary was a masterpiece of music research. Francesco - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 18:29:54 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Peter=20Marsh?= Subject: Re:monk tosh wrote: >Hi, >First of all didn't the Kink's Ray Davies do a documentary on Monk? no, he did one on one Mingus. "weird Nightmare', and it was basically a documentary of the making of the Hal Willner curated tribute record. Worth seing though. cheers Peter ===== lob - astralpunkfunkambientnoisejazz http://www.lentils.demon.co.uk ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 13:32:00 EST From: Samerivertwice@aol.com Subject: Re: monk In a message dated 12/13/00 1:30:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, astrogarage@yahoo.co.uk writes: << no, he did one on one Mingus. "weird Nightmare', and it was basically a documentary of the making of the Hal Willner curated tribute record. Worth seing though. cheers Peter >> Is this available anywhere? All I have is an excerpt of Elvis Costello's contribution. Curious, tom - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 13:54:14 -0500 (EST) From: Ken Waxman Subject: Re: Re:Blind Willie -infirmities of blues singers My goodness Francesco: This must be a recent passing. He's still listed as proofreader in the December issue of Cadence. Was it citricide? On a related matter what's this I hear about a new conductor, Sordo Mellone E. Prosciutto, taking over the arrangements and musical direction of the Italian Instabile? Ken - --- Francesco Martinelli wrote: > > > Blind Willie Johnson > > Blind Willie McTell > > Blind Boy Fuller > > Blind Sonny Terry > > Blind Lemon Jefferson > > Blind Blake > > Blind Gary Davis > > Cripple Clarence Lofton > > Peg Leg Howell > > > > You're forgetting perhaps the greatest, Blind Orange > Washington, whose > obituary was a masterpiece of music research. > Francesco > > _______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 14:43:24 -0600 From: "Ben Axelrad" Subject: new charizmha cd Hi, I'm busy making mental lists of my post-Holidays purchases. Has anyone heard the following release? Any ideas about US distribution, release date? Thanks, Ben Dieb 13 Dieb 13, turntables. Formlos (30.51) Restructuring (35.38) Track 1 recorded on 3 October 1999 at Musikprotokoll; track 2 recorded at Sperrmuell-Studio, Vienna in August 2000. The artwork on this CD (front cover reproduced above) is open content. _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 17:26:46 +0100 From: Tim Blechmann Subject: Re: monk I've seen STRAIGHT NO CHASER several years ago, so I don't remember it exactly. But I think it was a documentary containing a few concert excerpts, small interviews and so on. But I can't remember the scene that you explained. It might help you that Clint Eastwood produced this film and I suppose it's not very old. (About ten years???) PEACE Tim mailto:TimBlechmann@gmx.de Wednesday, December 13, 2000, 9:02:02 AM, you wrote: Philippe> hey, Philippe> i saw a documentary on thelonius monk a while back, it was in Philippe> black and white and very grainy. in it monk is sitting down by Philippe> a piano being interviewed and the guy asks him why he still Philippe> has his coat on ... monk points to the piano's label design and Philippe> it says WINTER. Philippe> now, i've just seen a monk film called straight no chaser in a Philippe> magazin at the video store where i work ... is it the same film? Philippe> i want to order it if it is. Philippe> thanks, Philippe> martin Philippe> p.s. can anyone comment on the films of maya deren, what are they Philippe> like? her husband did the film scores, he has an album on tzadik Philippe> called KING UBU. Philippe> - - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 16:05:29 EST From: JonAbbey2@aol.com Subject: Re: new charizmha cd In a message dated 12/13/00 3:45:09 PM, soulfrieda@hotmail.com writes: << Has anyone heard the following release? Any ideas about US distribution, release date? Dieb 13 Dieb 13, turntables.>> I just got a copy of this and the other new Charhizma release, Andrea Neumann/Annette Krebs, while I was in Vienna. the dieb 13 is pretty good, crackly, abstract turntablism. one of the pieces is live, and the other was worked on at home with dub plates. his trio show with the two bassists of Printer was my favorite set over the weekend. (I haven't filed a full festival report here, by the way, because I'm reviewing it for the Wire.) as for US distribution and release date, it's out now in Europe, so whenever Christof Kurzmann motivates to get copies to Dutch East India, it'll be available here. I talked to him about this over the weekend, so hopefully soon. Jon www.erstwhilerecords.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 17:32:11 -0500 From: Matt Laferty Subject: Re: Blind Willie -infirmities of blues singers for a lark and one of my biggest obsessions: Blind Norris Doc Watson Two members of the Skillet Lickers were disabled: Riley Puckett (blind), & Lowe Stokes (lost his arm) Blind Joe Reynolds Blind Alfred Reed Blind Willie Davis Blind Mamie Forehand Blind Joe Taggart Blind Roosevelt Graves All of the latter can be found on Revenent's American Primitive Vol. 1 cd compiled and notes by John Fahey. mmm. The best old religious record, by the way, is Rev. A.W. Nix and Congregation's "Black Diamond Expressway To Hell" part 1&2 Sorry. This is a hobbyhorse of mine. matt Ken Waxman wrote: > Blind Willie Johnson > Blind Willie McTell > Blind Boy Fuller > Blind Sonny Terry > Blind Lemon Jefferson > Blind Blake > Blind Gary Davis > Cripple Clarence Lofton > Peg Leg Howell - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 17:40:58 -0500 From: "Alan Kayser" Subject: Bobby Previte Were any of our European friends lucky enough to catch the "new" Bump the Renaissance during their recent tour (possibly with recorder in hand)? Was wondering what the switch from Ray Anderson to Joseph Bowie sounded like. If your answer to the secret question is "yes" then contact me privately. _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 05:26:40 -0000 From: "thomas chatterton" Subject: Re:Blind Willie -infirmities of blues singers >This discussion got me thinking about the nicknames of >different early folk and jazz performesr and I came up >with this list: > >Blind Willie Johnson >Blind Willie McTell >Blind Boy Fuller >Blind Sonny Terry >Blind Lemon Jefferson >Blind Blake >Blind Gary Davis >Cripple Clarence Lofton >Peg Leg Howell Don't forget to mention Blind Nathan Beauregard; caught a clip of him once on TV, 106 years old, blind (obviously!), bald, and playing electric guitar while sitting in a chair, I kid you not, he did some scattered recordings, I have one on an ABC Bluesway 2LP collection... Peace Out N.P. Jimi Hendrix, The Jimi Hendrix Experience (boxset) _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 05:44:46 -0000 From: "thomas chatterton" Subject: Re: bill laswell >From: Steve Smith > >Better to hope that the real reason Laswell was in touch with Shanachie - >access >to their Yazoo label's Blind Willie recordings for yet another remix >project - Anyone know what's up with Laswell's rumoured 3 part (Masada, Filmworks, Naked City) deconstruction/remix Zorn project? _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. 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Apologies if this question has > already been raised on the list. well, adam: if you are getting into frank zappa - i'd say start saving money now. every single person i know who ever got into zappa did eventually spend a lot of money on cds/records by him. i'd already been a fan of frank zappa drummer terry bozzio before i discovered frank's music. my first purchase was "sheik yerbouti"; still one of my faves. but i think i can also recommend "zoot allures", "apostrophe / overnite sensation", "live in new york", "waka/jawaka"... i'd say check those out. already looking forward to what other list-members have to say! patRice np: jamie saft, sovlanut nr: haruki murakami, norwegian wood recent videos i enjoyed: ali g - aiii / bottom live - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 05:58:39 -0500 From: "Caleb T. Deupree" Subject: Re: Frank Zappa (No Zorn Content) At 09:04 PM 12/14/00 +1100, Adam Rock wrote: >>>> Can anyone recommend some Frank Zappa albums that may function as useful starting points for the newbie? Apologies if this question has already been raised on the list. <<<< I didn't follow FZ through his whole career, but the early Mothers of Invention albums are excellent, in particular Freak Out, Absolutely Free, and Only Money. His satire had not yet devolved into puerile vocals yet, but all three of these albums have a heavy dose of vocals. Only Money and its companion Lumpy Gravy contains some the few examples of serious electroacoustic music in 1960s pop (Beatles Revolution #9 is the only other example I can think of), but also contains some of FZ's best melodies and catchy pop tunes. Freak Out is more straight rock but has a fairly long percussion improv piece. Absolutely Free is scathing satire on the entertainment industry and pseudo-hippies. His first solo album Hot Rats, almost all instrumental except a brief vocal by Beefheart, is also quite good. It features Zappa and multi-instrumentalist Ian Underwood on keyboards and winds. Some of the last original Mothers albums had some gems too: Burnt Weeny Sandwich, Weasels Ripped my Flesh, and Uncle Meat all have some excellent moments. Yellow Shark is reputed to be *the* classical Zappa album, I think, although I've only read about this album. Shut Up and Play Your Guitar is great if you're looking for guitar pyrotechnics and little else. Avoid Mothers Live at Fillmore 1971, too many early 1970s references in the comedy bits and not enough music. - -- Caleb Deupree cdeupree@erinet.com Work like you don't need the money. Love like you've never been hurt. Dance like nobody's watching. - -- Satchel Paige - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 06:08:05 EST From: Samerivertwice@aol.com Subject: Re: Frank Zappa (No Zorn Content) In a message dated 12/14/00 5:02:07 AM Eastern Standard Time, arock01@postoffice.csu.edu.au writes: << Hi Folks, Can anyone recommend some Frank Zappa albums that may function as useful starting points for the newbie? Apologies if this question has already been raised on the list. Thanks, Adam >> The "You Can't Do That On Stage Anymore" series is a fine live overview of Zappa's stunning career. Still misses Frank, Tom ________________________________________________ The dignity of art appears to the greatest advantage perhaps in music, because that art contains no material to be deducted. It is wholly form and intrinsic value, and it elevates and ennobles everything which it expresses. --Johann Wolfgang Von Goethe - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 06:34:49 EST From: JonAbbey2@aol.com Subject: Re: Frank Zappa (No Zorn Content) In a message dated 12/14/00 5:59:02 AM, cdeupree@erinet.com writes: << Only Money and its companion Lumpy Gravy contains some the few examples of serious electroacoustic music in 1960s pop (Beatles Revolution #9 is the only other example I can think of) >> Gilberto Gil's Cerebro Eletronico (1969) has some great electroacoustics on it, courtesy of Rogerio Duprat. also, not quite the sixties, but Can's Tago Mago (1971) has a side long piece, Aumgn, which is also pretty great. those are the first two that come to mind. my favorite Zappa records are Freak Out! and Weasels Ripped My Flesh, FWIW. on a somewhat related note, did anyone see the Allan Kozinn review in the NY Times this week, I believe of a Phil Kline show, in which he called Jim Morrison and Frank Zappa contemporary musicians? now there's someone who's just as much in touch with today's music as Ken Burns. Jon www.erstwhilerecords.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 06:49:34 -0500 From: "Jesse Kudler" Subject: Re: Frank Zappa (No Zorn Content) - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 6:34 AM Subject: Re: Frank Zappa (No Zorn Content) > my favorite Zappa records are Freak Out! and Weasels Ripped My Flesh, FWIW. Is Freak Out the one where the sleeve lists a bunch of experimental artists as influences? I read somewhere that Jim O'Rourke credited that with first getting him into all that stuff, as he went and researched all of them at the library. (We certainly don't have a library like that were I live). - -Jesse - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 13:03:04 +0100 From: "Andreas Dietz" Subject: Re: Bobby Previte >From: "Alan Kayser" > >Were any of our European friends lucky enough to catch the "new" Bump the >Renaissance during their recent tour (possibly with recorder in hand)? Was >wondering what the switch from Ray Anderson to Joseph Bowie sounded like. >If your answer to the secret question is "yes" then contact me privately. Iīve seen both versions: in august with Anderson and in november with Bowie and the first concert was much better. This wasnīt the case because of Bowie but other circumstances: better acoustic, much more enthusiastic visitors, better atmosphere. Bowie did a good job but wasnīt really into the material. The venue was an old plant building with horrible acoustic. Andreas PS: I didnīt tape anything _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com - - ------------------------------ End of Zorn List Digest V3 #198 ******************************* To unsubscribe from zorn-list-digest, send an email to "majordomo@lists.xmission.com" with "unsubscribe zorn-list-digest" in the body of the message. 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