From: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (Zorn List Digest) To: zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: Zorn List Digest V3 #221 Reply-To: zorn-list Sender: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Zorn List Digest Tuesday, January 2 2001 Volume 03 : Number 221 In this issue: - corbett & friends cd roxy music / brian eno Best of 2000 Mark Feldman and Louis Sclavis on Enja Re: roxy music / brian eno Re: Sonny Clark Memorial Quartet(zorn content)/Ives sun ra article Zorn-related, basically... Re: Best of 2000 Guns and Roses sampler for sale. (no jz content) re: arcana ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2001 01:54:23 -0500 From: Lang Thompson Subject: corbett & friends cd Hi, I saw this John Corbett & Friends disc "I'm Sick About My Hat" at a local used store but didn't get it. Is it worthwhile? LT - ------------------------------------------- Adventures In Sound http://wlt4.home.mindspring.com/adventures.htm Outsider Music Mailing List http://wlt4.home.mindspring.com/outsider.htm Documentary Sound http://wlt4.home.mindspring.com/adventures/documentary.htm Full Alert Film Review http://wlt4.home.mindspring.com/fafr.htm - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 10:04:07 -0600 (CST) From: Whit Schonbein Subject: roxy music / brian eno strange this should come up, because i was just getting into roxy music (after being unmoved by the bands work 10 years ago). i just picked up 'country life', and it is really good. i also recommend 'avalon', but it really is polished adult pop rock - sort of a soundtrack to a 'breakfast club'-style movie, only before its time (sometimes i hear the title track playing as muzak at the local grocery store, alongside donald fagen). i used to have 'for your pleasure' (10 years ago), but never got into it as what i really wanted was more eno along the lines of 'taking tiger mountain...'. as for eno - taking tiger mountain by strategy is great. the opening track 'burning airlines' is fantastic, and the rest of the album follows suit with only a few slow points. and here come the warm jets is also nice, as previously noted. my next favorite eno is 'tuesday afternoon', or 'no pussyfooting' (w/ fripp), but both of these are ambient. then his work with the talking heads is great. whit - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 11:49:15 EST From: Poisonhead@aol.com Subject: Best of 2000 My Favourites from 2000 would have to include... 1.)Kevin Coyne-Room Full of Fools 2.)Klimperei-La machine a Triboulet 3.)the Horse Flies-In the Dance Tent 4.)Baby Gramps-Same Ol' Timeously 5.)SoupSongs Live-The Music of Robert Wyatt 6.)Larval-Predator or Prey 7.)Bill Frisell-Ghost Town 8.)James Carter-layin' in the cut 9.)Peter Brotzmann Chicago Tentet-Stone/water 10.)Bill Brovold-Childish Delusions 11.)XTC-Wasp Star 12.)16 Horsepower-Secret South 13.)Vic Chesnutt-Merriment And of course Masada Live in Sevilla/Xu Feng Favourite Reissues include... 1.)Willem Breuker Kollektief-Summer Music 2.)The Peter Brotzmann Sextet/Quartet- Nipples 3.)Faust-The Wumme Years 1970-73 4.)4 Moondog releases on Kopf Records 5.)Sun Ra-Lanquidity Andrew-Listening to Michael Hurley, "The Bellemeade Sessions". He's the Best! - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2001 14:04:40 -0500 From: Steve Smith Subject: Mark Feldman and Louis Sclavis on Enja Hi all: The following tidbit comes from the latest Enja Records newsletter, and contains a spot of info about a new Enja series, Enja Nova, as well as a few of its first releases. Steve Smith ssmith36@sprynet.com NP - Jane Ira Bloom, "I Got Rhythm But No Melody," 'Mighty Lights' (Enja) - by sheer coincidence... - -------- Original Message -------- Subject: ENJA RECORDS Newsletter #11 Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 14:03:46 +0100 From: info@enjarecords.com To: newsletter@enjarecords.com CC: press@enjarecords.com distributors@enjarecords.com ENJA RECORDS Newsletter #11 Dec. 2000=20 http://www.enjarecords.com The new year will see the ENJA NOVA release of violinist Mark=20 Feldman's The Book of Tells, a string quartet for two jazz and two=20 classical string players which will be followed by Le Concerto=20 Improvis=E9 by French composer Fabien T=E9h=E9ricsen written for=20 chamber orchestra and featuring the solo clarinet of improviser=20 Louis Sclavis. - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2001 14:37:25 -0500 From: Steve Smith Subject: Re: roxy music / brian eno Whit Schonbein wrote: > i also recommend > 'avalon', but it really is polished adult pop rock - sort of a soundtrack > to a 'breakfast club'-style movie, only before its time I don't disagree, but your choice of comparison is incredibly ironic. It's not commonly known, but the anthemic hit song from the soundtrack to 'The Breakfast Club,' which became a ubiquitous radio smash and propelled its performer to international (if fleeting) superstardom, was originally written specifically for Bryan Ferry. He turned it down, but I find that if you mentally reprogram the song with Ferry's unique vocal tone and inflections, the connection becomes very clear. That song was, of course, "Don't You (Forget About Me)," subsequently recorded by a little known, King Crimson-influenced Scottish avant-pop band called Simple Minds. The song was such a hit that Jim Kerr and his band spent the rest of their short moment in the spotlight trying to reproduce it. Imagine if Ferry HAD done it? Of course, I assume that he would have refrained from the "hey, hey, hey, HEY!" exhortations between choruses... ;-) Steve Smith ssmith36@sprynet.com NP - Jane Ira Bloom, "Cagney," 'Modern Drama' (Columbia) - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2001 15:08:03 -0500 From: Steve Smith Subject: Re: Sonny Clark Memorial Quartet(zorn content)/Ives - --------------09498A88B2A74AD1633310B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User384726@aol.com wrote: > I recently purchased this album, Voodoo, and have mixed feelings about > it. > This album is a bunch of Sonny Clark tunes played by Ray Drummond > (bass), > Horwitz, Zorn, and Previte. The album is very straight ahead both in > terms > of playing and arranging. I think it's a great album and the one I pull out most frequently when I feel the need to prove to sceptics the fact that Zorn can indeed play "jazz." If it's restrained, I think it's willfully so - it's a respectful tribute to an overlooked bop iconoclast. Bear in mind as well that it's not Zorn's album... it's Horvitz's, and he very much intended this to be a pretty straight session, whereas Zorn's own take on bop is the much more subversive 'News for Lulu.' Horvitz mentions in the liner notes that he'd hoped to use bassist George Duvivier, who actually worked with Clark, but Duvivier passed away before the sessions. And he states it more bluntly later in the same essay: "There's nothing radical about this record in any sense." If you listen to it in that light, it reveals itself for what it is: a great bop record on which Zorn every so often simply can't keep himself from shooting off sparks. An old bophead radio DJ for whom I played the album about 14 years ago, when it was new, was delighted by what he heard. Having never encountered Zorn before, this listener said that the sax reminded him of Rahsaan Roland Kirk, even Eric Dolphy. I think Zorn might have been pleased by that. And he thought highly enough of the project to resurrect it during the legendary Zorn Month at the Knit back in '93 (with Dave Hofstra subbing for Drummond). > Also I would like to know if anyone could help me find a specific > recording > of Charles Ives's "General William Booth Enters Into Heaven" with a > female > singer. I only have the version from the Complete Songs set and this > older > recording (possibly only on vinyl) is far more hilarious. It's almost certainly the one on this CD, currently in print: Songs of Charles Ives and Ernest Bacon (CRI American Masters CD 675) Ives: 24 Songs, including Abide With Me, Two Little Flowers, The Greatest Man, Ann Street, The Children's Hour, General William Booth Enters Into Heaven, Tom Sails Away, In Flanders Fields. Helen Boatwright, soprano, John Kirkpatrick, piano Bacon: 22 Songs from Emily Dickinson. Historic Recordings of 1954 and 1965 - Helen Boatwright, soprano, Ernst Bacon, piano http://www.composersrecordings.com/cd/675.html (I only recently became aware of this disc, as Matt Moran told me these recordings are most responsible for his instrumental interpretations on his upcoming disc of Ives songs on the CRI/Blueshift label.) Happy hunting! Steve Smith ssmith36@sprynet.com NP - Jane Ira Bloom, "The Race," 'Modern Drama' (Columbia) - --------------09498A88B2A74AD1633310B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User384726@aol.com wrote:
I recently purchased this album, Voodoo, and have mixed feelings about it.
This album is a bunch of Sonny Clark tunes played by Ray Drummond (bass),
Horwitz, Zorn, and Previte.  The album is very straight ahead both in terms
of playing and arranging.
I think it's a great album and the one I pull out most frequently when I feel the need to prove to sceptics the fact that Zorn can indeed play "jazz."  If it's restrained, I think it's willfully so - it's a respectful tribute to an overlooked bop iconoclast.  Bear in mind as well that it's not Zorn's album... it's Horvitz's, and he very much intended this to be a pretty straight session, whereas Zorn's own take on bop is the much more subversive 'News for Lulu.'  Horvitz mentions in the liner notes that he'd hoped to use bassist George Duvivier, who actually worked with Clark, but Duvivier passed away before the sessions.  And he states it more bluntly later in the same essay: "There's nothing radical about this record in any sense."  If you listen to it in that light, it reveals itself for what it is: a great bop record on which Zorn every so often simply can't keep himself from shooting off sparks.  An old bophead radio DJ for whom I played the album about 14 years ago, when it was new, was delighted by what he heard.  Having never encountered Zorn before, this listener said that the sax reminded him of Rahsaan Roland Kirk, even Eric Dolphy.  I think Zorn might have been pleased by that.  And he thought highly enough of the project to resurrect it during the legendary Zorn Month at the Knit back in '93 (with Dave Hofstra subbing for Drummond).
Also I would like to know if anyone could help me find a specific recording
of Charles Ives's "General William Booth Enters Into Heaven" with a female
singer.  I only have the version from the Complete Songs set and this older
recording (possibly only on vinyl) is far more hilarious.
It's almost certainly the one on this CD, currently in print:

Songs of Charles Ives and Ernest Bacon (CRI American Masters CD 675)

Ives:  24 Songs, including Abide With Me, Two Little Flowers, The Greatest Man, Ann Street, The Children's Hour, General William Booth Enters Into Heaven, Tom Sails Away, In Flanders Fields.  Helen Boatwright, soprano, John Kirkpatrick, piano

Bacon:  22 Songs from Emily Dickinson. Historic Recordings of 1954 and 1965 - Helen Boatwright, soprano, Ernst Bacon, piano

http://www.composersrecordings.com/cd/675.html

(I only recently became aware of this disc, as Matt Moran told me these recordings are most responsible for his instrumental interpretations on his upcoming disc of Ives songs on the CRI/Blueshift label.)

Happy hunting!

Steve Smith
ssmith36@sprynet.com
NP - Jane Ira Bloom, "The Race," 'Modern Drama' (Columbia) - --------------09498A88B2A74AD1633310B0-- - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2001 17:11:41 -0500 From: "Caleb T. Deupree" Subject: sun ra article Periodically we get questions about Sun Ra. I stumbled across an article that presents an okay overview of his work at http://www.nypress.com/content.cfm?content_id=3346&now=12/28/2000&content_se ction=2 - -- Caleb Deupree cdeupree@erinet.com Work like you don't need the money. Love like you've never been hurt. Dance like nobody's watching. - -- Satchel Paige - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 18:32:06 EST From: Orangejazz@aol.com Subject: Zorn-related, basically... - --part1_e6.f7f3e79.27826d76_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I just thought I should tell everyone there is a new list that deals with Zorn, as well as many other modern composers, filmmakers, and artists. the address is http://www.egroups.com/group/infinite_empathy. here's the blurb : French New Wave, N Sync, Bernhard Gunter, Paul McCartney, the film "Vision Quest" and other 80's teen exploitation, Jim O'Rourke, Spike Lee, Merzbow, Christina Aguilera, John Zorn, Brad Pitt + Jennifer Aniston, Fennesz, advancement of technology, madonna, Luc Ferrari, Morton Feldman, Adam Sandler, JohnCage, "Minimalism"/"Postmodernism", Dada...on and on. I don't understand what happened. Criticism provides views on art, the historical contexts. Can art only be as good as its criticism? HAVE YOU READ SPIN MAGAZINE OR ROLLING STONE OR THE WIRE? Are those reviews? Do you come away with anything from reading them? It seems like a chance to drop names and use bland adjectives to me. I don't know. This list is an attempt to gain a better understanding of why things are what they are, and what the problems are with that. from, matt - --part1_e6.f7f3e79.27826d76_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi,
I just thought I should tell everyone there is a new list that deals with
Zorn, as well as many other modern composers, filmmakers, and artists.
the address is http://www.egroups.com/group/infinite_empathy.
here's the blurb :

French New Wave, N Sync, Bernhard Gunter, Paul McCartney, the film "Vision
Quest" and other 80's teen exploitation, Jim O'Rourke, Spike Lee, Merzbow,
Christina Aguilera, John Zorn, Brad Pitt + Jennifer Aniston, Fennesz,
advancement of technology, madonna, Luc Ferrari, Morton Feldman, Adam
Sandler, JohnCage, "Minimalism"/"Postmodernism", Dada...on and on. I don't
understand what happened. Criticism provides views on art, the historical
contexts. Can art only be as good as its criticism? HAVE YOU READ SPIN
MAGAZINE OR ROLLING STONE OR THE WIRE? Are those reviews? Do you come away
with anything from reading them? It seems like a chance to drop names and use
bland adjectives to me. I don't know. This list is an attempt to gain a
better understanding of why things are what they are, and what the problems
are with that.


from,
matt - --part1_e6.f7f3e79.27826d76_boundary-- - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2001 21:34:25 -500 From: Matt Laferty Subject: Re: Best of 2000 Zorns It's been a monstrous time for tracking down records. I stumbled into used copies of Keiji Haino's "Watashi-Dake" and PSF's "Tokyo Flashback 1" Does anyone with these records and a good heart have the track titles of these two records. The Haino record is unclear at best, and the Haino, Fushitsusha, and Kousokuya tracks on the compilation are unreadable to my english-only eyes. Please email off list bg60009@binghamton.edu. And thanks a whole heck of a lot. Matt - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 22:14:45 -0500 From: "Toula Ballas" Subject: Guns and Roses List, The new Gun's and Roses lineup jammed at Mandalay Bay Casino in Vegas last night. New Members include: Brain and Buckethead amongst a few others I don't recognize and coudn't remember. Set list included all the G&R hits: Paradise City (opener), Patience, Welcome to the Jungle etc... The review I read said these tunes were "torn limb from limb with an energy unfamiliar to mankind" B-Head did a five minute numchuck solo with drum accompanyment. G&R tour is set for this summer and new album "Chinese Democracy" is due out in June. Curious whethor any listers would be interested in checking these cats out, Paul np: Eugene Chadbourne, Mark Dresser, Joe Morris, Susie Ibarra "Pain and Pen" - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 01:47:36 EST From: APoesia794@aol.com Subject: sampler for sale. (no jz content) if anyone is interested in a roland sp-202 digital sampler i am selling one. contact me privately. thanks. - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 07:35:47 -0600 (CST) From: Whit Schonbein Subject: re: arcana obviouseye wrote: > however, i am having some difficulty understanding certain aspects of > Frances-Marie Uitti's two bowed cello experiments. how exactly is the > two bow cello used, held, fingered, etc.? and what do the > triangular/semicircle diagrams represent? i think the arcs represent the curvature of the strings of a cello, and the lines are the bows. so the diagrams show which strings the bows touch in each configuration. i am assuming the letters indicate the note of the open string (although i do not know the tuning on a cello). i find the essays hit-or-miss, but all are at worst interesting to read. i found the frisell bit illuminating, as it basically spells out his technique. the lewis essay on teaching music is enjoyable to me, since i also teach at the undergrad level. good book overall. (thanks, dan!) whit - - ------------------------------ End of Zorn List Digest V3 #221 ******************************* To unsubscribe from zorn-list-digest, send an email to "majordomo@lists.xmission.com" with "unsubscribe zorn-list-digest" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. A non-digest (direct mail) version of this list is also available; to subscribe to that instead, replace all instances of "zorn-list-digest" in the commands above with "zorn-list". Back issues are available for anonymous FTP from ftp.xmission.com, in pub/lists/zorn-list/archive. These are organized by date. Problems? Email the list owner at zorn-list-owner@lists.xmission.com