From: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (Zorn List Digest) To: zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: Zorn List Digest V3 #307 Reply-To: zorn-list Sender: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Zorn List Digest Thursday, March 1 2001 Volume 03 : Number 307 In this issue: - Survival Records, Ayler/Art Ensemble article Re: top ten Re: top ten ten rashied ali reissues article Re: top ten ten Elvis C Odp: top ten frith covers zappa unheard top 10 Re: unheard top 10 More news of Ligeti project Re: unheard top 10 Re: unheard top 10 Crazy MPS was :Odp: top ten Barney Wilen (was:Re: Crazy MPS) Re: top ten lacy trade (sorry, no zorn content) Jim Black "Alasnoaxis" Re: john schott/new winds Re: top 10 Re: Elvis C Re: More news of Ligeti project new STATE OF THE UNION comp RE: new STATE OF THE UNION comp ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 20:26:31 -0500 From: Perfect Sound Forever Subject: Survival Records, Ayler/Art Ensemble article Greetings, In the latest edition of Perfect Sound Forever online magazine , you'll find (among other things): RASHIED ALI Survival Records survives- Steve Koenig talks to the legendary drummer about the reissuing of his catalog FREE JAZZ Theme Amour Universal- Tim Ryan finds the thread spun together between Albert Ayler and the Art Ensemble of Chicago We're always looking for good material so let us know if you have any writing or ideas for upcoming issues. See you online, Jason Perfect Sound Forever online music magazine perfect-sound@furious.com http://www.furious.com/perfect - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 13:40:41 +1100 From: "Julian" Subject: Re: top ten > How 'bout it's more interesting than *any * music of > Mike Patton? I'm no Mike Patton worshipper, but I do find it quite interesting you should say that since in the handful of top tens so far sent, Mike Patton has featured in at least 3 or 4 of them... - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 03:11:41 -0000 From: "thomas chatterton" Subject: Re: top ten ten >From: Matt Teichman > >>3. Elvis Costello 'Ten Bloody Marys & Ten How's Your Fathers' > >Which one is this? Is it a compilation? Yes, a U.K. B-sides and rarities collection, the tracks are: . Clean Money (Costello) - 2:01  2. Girls Talk (Costello) - 1:56  3. Talking in the Dark (Costello) - 1:57  4. Radio Sweetheart (Costello) - 2:26  5. Big Tears (Costello) - 3:10  6. Crawling to the USA (Costello) - 2:53  7. Just a Memory (Costello) - 2:17  8. Watching the Detectives (Costello) - 3:47  9. Stranger in the House (Costello) - 3:02  10. Clowntime Is Over (Costello) - 3:46  11. Getting Mighty Crowded (McCoy) - 2:10  12. Hoover Factory (Costello) - 1:47  13. Tiny Steps (Costello) - 2:44  14. (What's So Funny 'Bout) Peace, Love and... (Lowe) - 3:34  15. Dr. Luther's Assistant (Costello) - 3:30  16. Radio, Radio (Costello) - 3:07  17. Black and White World (Costello) - 1:50  18. Wednesday Week (Costello) - 2:04  19. My Funny Valentine (Hart/Rodgers) - 1:29  20. Ghost Train (Costello) - 3:07 _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 22:46:56 EST From: Acousticlv@aol.com Subject: rashied ali reissues article dear friends, i wrote an article/interview some time ago when rashied ali was just reissuing his Survival LPs through Knit Classics. As the Knit hadnt paid their ad bills, the mag who originally wanted the story declined it. Now it's up on Perfect Sound Forever. http://www.furious.com/perfect/rashiedalisurvival.html regards steve koenig n.p.: morning 40 federation: "you my brother" tekito discs.... most fun CD this year - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 22:54:58 EST From: Samerivertwice@aol.com Subject: Re: top ten ten A great companion to this is the Demon Records release "Out of Our Idiot." Tom P.S. Rumor has it that Costello's entire back catalogue is being reissued=20 AGAIN, this time through Rhino. Each disc is supposed to be released with a= =20 bonus disc of rarities. Now I have to buy them all for the fourth time. =20 (Columbia original release on vinyl, Columbia on CD, Ryko on CD, and now=20 Rhino!) Yes, I have to. In a message dated 2/28/01 10:12:13 PM Eastern Standard Time,=20 chatterton23@hotmail.com writes: > Yes, a U.K. B-sides and rarities collection, the tracks are: > =20 > . Clean Money (Costello) - 2:01 > =A02. Girls Talk (Costello) - 1:56 > =A03. Talking in the Dark (Costello) - 1:57 > =A04. Radio Sweetheart (Costello) - 2:26 > =A05. Big Tears (Costello) - 3:10 > =A06. Crawling to the USA (Costello) - 2:53 > =A07. Just a Memory (Costello) - 2:17 > =A08. Watching the Detectives (Costello) - 3:47 > =A09. Stranger in the House (Costello) - 3:02 > =A010. Clowntime Is Over (Costello) - 3:46 > =A011. Getting Mighty Crowded (McCoy) - 2:10 > =A012. Hoover Factory (Costello) - 1:47 > =A013. Tiny Steps (Costello) - 2:44 > =A014. (What's So Funny 'Bout) Peace, Love and... (Lowe) - 3:34 > =A015. Dr. Luther's Assistant (Costello) - 3:30 > =A016. Radio, Radio (Costello) - 3:07 > =A017. Black and White World (Costello) - 1:50 > =A018. Wednesday Week (Costello) - 2:04 > =A019. My Funny Valentine (Hart/Rodgers) - 1:29 > =A020. Ghost Train (Costello) - 3:07 ________________________________________________ The dignity of art appears to the greatest advantage perhaps in music, because that art contains no material to be deducted. It is wholly form and intrinsic value, and it elevates and ennobles everything which it expresses. --Johann Wolfgang Von Goethe - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 23:17:51 -0500 From: Lang Thompson Subject: Elvis C >P.S. Rumor has it that Costello's entire back catalogue is being reissued >AGAIN, this time through Rhino. Each disc is supposed to be released with a Due April 17 is a two-disc set called "Very Best of Elvis Costello" so perhaps that's a lead-in (or maybe a one-off since there are also double sets for Emmylou Harris, Gram Parsons and Tom Waits due shortly afterwards). Lang - ------------------------------------------- Adventures In Sound http://wlt4.home.mindspring.com/adventures.htm Outsider Music Mailing List http://wlt4.home.mindspring.com/outsider.htm Documentary Sound http://wlt4.home.mindspring.com/adventures/documentary.htm Full Alert Film Review http://wlt4.home.mindspring.com/fafr.htm - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 06:28:03 +0100 From: "Jerzy Matysiakiewicz" Subject: Odp: top ten | Here's my TOP 10 list 1. Krzysztof Komeda - Astigmatic 2.Mothers of Inventions - Absolutely free 3.John Coltrane - Kulu se mama 4.Albert Ayler - Bells 5.Crosby, Still, Nash & Young - Deja Vu 6.Beatles - White album 7.Roland Kirk - Blacknuss 8.Bob Dylan - Desire 9.Brainticket- Cottonwoodhill 10.Barney Wilen - Dear prof. Leary JM - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 22:44:19 -0800 From: "Martin Wisckol" Subject: frith covers zappa Spurred by recent conversation here, I am listening to Frith's "Step Across the Border" this evening. Cut 13, "Norrgarden Nyvla," strikes me as a Zappa chart. Am I wrong or am I right? (George Clinton has been using an instrumental excerpt of FZ's "I am the slime" in his shows for several years at least....) - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 22:54:17 -0800 From: "Martin Wisckol" Subject: unheard top 10 at least 15 of my top 10 favorite albums have not been mentioned. so i offer this baker's dozen plus one, roughly in chronological order. 1. Duke Ellington -- Blanton/Webster Band 2. Charlie Parker -- Jazz at Massey Hall (The Greatest Jazz Concert) 3. Thelonious Monk -- Complete Riverside REcordings 4. Harry Partch -- Delusion of the Fury 5. Ornette Coleman -- Beauty is a Rare Fig 6. Jimi Hendrix -- Axis: Bold as Love 7. Joni Mitchell -- Blue 8. Miles Davis -- Agharta/Pangea 9. Bob Marley -- Live! 10. Egberto Gismonti -- Sol do meio dia 11. Henry Threadgill -- Pass the Bucket 12. Steve Lacy -- Live at Sweet Basil (Surprised Lacy isn't more popular on this list 13. Tom Waits -- Raindogs 14. VA -- Phases of the Moon (Chinese music) Honorable mention: Jelly Roll Morton, Fletcher Henderson, Sun Ra, Astor Piazzolla, George Clinton, Bill Laswell, Art Ensemble, Charles Mingus - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 02:04:50 EST From: JonAbbey2@aol.com Subject: Re: unheard top 10 In a message dated 3/1/01 1:55:24 AM, Martin_Wisckol@link.freedom.com writes: << Surprised Lacy isn't more popular on this list >> I'd be more into him if he added some Monk tunes to his repertoire. Jon www.erstwhilerecords.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 02:20:32 -0500 From: "Steve Smith" Subject: More news of Ligeti project To David Belkin (and everyone else following this development): Here's an interview with Ligeti himself about the resumption of the complete recordings on Teldec. http://www.warner-classics.com/teldec/m/studios.html (Scroll down past the little puff pieces about other Teldec artists and you'll find the interview.) Steve Smith ssmith36@sprynet.com NP - Ganelin Trio, "Play Eight," 'Strictly for Our Friends' (Leo) - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 09:27:37 +0100 From: "Truyens" Subject: Re: unheard top 10 Lacy plays loads of Monk, Jon.. Hugo - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 8:04 AM Subject: Re: unheard top 10 > > In a message dated 3/1/01 1:55:24 AM, Martin_Wisckol@link.freedom.com writes: > > << Surprised Lacy isn't more popular on this list >> > > I'd be more into him if he added some Monk tunes to his repertoire. > > Jon > www.erstwhilerecords.com > > - > > - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 01:47:57 -0800 From: Skip Heller Subject: Re: unheard top 10 skip heller > at least 15 of my top 10 favorite albums have not been mentioned. so i > offer this baker's dozen plus one, roughly in chronological order. > > 1. Duke Ellington -- Blanton/Webster Band > 2. Charlie Parker -- Jazz at Massey Hall (The Greatest Jazz Concert) > 3. Thelonious Monk -- Complete Riverside REcordings > 4. Harry Partch -- Delusion of the Fury > 5. Ornette Coleman -- Beauty is a Rare Fig > 6. Jimi Hendrix -- Axis: Bold as Love > 7. Joni Mitchell -- Blue > 8. Miles Davis -- Agharta/Pangea > 9. Bob Marley -- Live! > 10. Egberto Gismonti -- Sol do meio dia > 11. Henry Threadgill -- Pass the Bucket > 12. Steve Lacy -- Live at Sweet Basil (Surprised Lacy isn't more popular > on this list > 13. Tom Waits -- Raindogs > 14. VA -- Phases of the Moon (Chinese music) > > Honorable mention: Jelly Roll Morton, Fletcher Henderson, Sun Ra, Astor > Piazzolla, George Clinton, Bill Laswell, Art Ensemble, Charles Mingus > > > - > > Not that I blindly agree with everything on here, but something somewhere's gotta be in healthy shape when this is someone's ten fav records. skip h np: Bill Frisell, Tis Land (my personal favorite Joey Baron record) - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 11:03:48 +0100 From: "Jerzy Matysiakiewicz" Subject: Crazy MPS was :Odp: top ten - ----- Wiadomosc oryginalna ----- Od: "Friedrich Kapitzke" Do: "Jerzy Matysiakiewicz" Wyslano: 1 marca 2001 08:25 Temat: Re: top ten | Hy Jerzy, | nice that you picked Barney Wilen - Dear prof. Leary | that diusc had great influence on me when it came out as did | Extrapolation-by Mc Laughlin/Surman | Friedrich Yes, really great LP, sadly, AFAIK, still unavailable on CD, like many discs from MPS. What the hell is going on, that fantastic MPS stuff is only chaotic transferred to CD, mainly in Japan. Other great record from this times /early ECM/ is Dauner's "Output" - real holy grail for me. Back to my to ten - I forget one of the craziest LP/CD's ever - Dauner's "Oimels" !!! Jerzy - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 11:40:51 +0100 From: "sen@chello.be" Subject: Barney Wilen (was:Re: Crazy MPS) on 1/03/01 11:03, Jerzy Matysiakiewicz at jerzym@dom.zabrze.pl wrote: > > ----- Wiadomosc oryginalna ----- > Od: "Friedrich Kapitzke" > Do: "Jerzy Matysiakiewicz" > Wyslano: 1 marca 2001 08:25 > Temat: Re: top ten > > > | Hy Jerzy, > | nice that you picked Barney Wilen - Dear prof. Leary > | that diusc had great influence on me when it came out as did > | Extrapolation-by Mc Laughlin/Surman > | Friedrich > > > Yes, really great LP, sadly, AFAIK, still unavailable on CD, like many discs > from MPS. I don't like 'Prof. Leary very much. It's very different than any of his other releases (though another atypical one is 'Moshi') My favourite Barney Wilen is 'Zodiac, a mid-60's LP issued on Vogue in France, featuring (please sit down...) Karl Berger, J.F. Jenny-Clarcke and Jacques Thollot!!! 12 short but intense free-jazz improvisations about the 12 zodiac signs. I really love French free jazz :) Sen. - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 10:48:42 +0100 From: Tim Blechmann Subject: Re: top ten Top Ten: Zorn / Previte / Sharp / Horvitz: Downtown Lullaby Bob Ostertag: Sooner Or Later Material (w/ William S. Burroughs): Seven Souls Uri Caine: Mahler in Toblach Kim Gordon / DJ Olive / Ikue Mori: Syr 5 Elliott Sharp / Christian Marclay: High Noon John Coltrane: Ascension / Om Kronos Quartet: HOWL, USA The Golden Palominos: Dead Inside Bill Laswell: APC Tracks 1 & 2 PEACE Tim mailto:TimBlechmann@gmx.de - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 12:44:14 +0100 From: "john rust" Subject: lacy trade (sorry, no zorn content) Is anyone out there intersted in trading for Steve Lacy's RUSHES (1990, Sound Planet)? - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 03:44:44 -0800 (PST) From: Theo Klaase Subject: Jim Black "Alasnoaxis" - --0-706231407-983447084=:6876 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'd like to encourage everyone on the list to examine this album closely... Jim Black's "Alasnoaxis"... It's a monu-mental testimony to the dark, underground future of jazz.... Absolutely stunning...! Absolutely amazing... - --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? 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All the best, Stephen Stephen Fruitman Dept of Historical Studies Ume=E5 University SE-901 87 Ume=E5 Sweden - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 07:44:31 -0500 From: Matt Teichman Subject: Re: top 10 This is fun, isn't it. Not necessarily top ten, but 10 great albums that spring to mind: Brotzmann, Nipples Zappa, Roxy & Elsewhere Costello, Mighty Like a Rose Ginger Baker, Unseen Rain Shipp, Strata Mahavishnu, Birds of Fire Radiohead, OK Computer Trane, Stellar Regions Tsahar, Ein Sof Davis, Nefertiti - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 07:44:15 EST From: Samerivertwice@aol.com Subject: Re: Elvis C In a message dated 2/28/01 11:19:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, wlt4@mindspring.com writes: > Due April 17 is a two-disc set called "Very Best of Elvis Costello" so > perhaps that's a lead-in (or maybe a one-off since there are also double > sets for Emmylou Harris, Gram Parsons and Tom Waits due shortly afterwards). > > > Lang I wish it were just a lead-in. From what I understnad, it's his whole Columbia catalogue. The originals were reissused by Ryko with lots of bonus tracks. This time around there are supposed to be an additional two bonus tracks per disc. I probably already have them on boots or vinyl but, you know, the completist in me needs the official reissues. As Costello once said, "What starts as a flirtation soon ends up as an expensive habit." What's this about Tom Waits? Tom ________________________________________________ The dignity of art appears to the greatest advantage perhaps in music, because that art contains no material to be deducted. It is wholly form and intrinsic value, and it elevates and ennobles everything which it expresses. --Johann Wolfgang Von Goethe - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 08:20:56 EST From: DvdBelkin@aol.com Subject: Re: More news of Ligeti project In a message dated 3/1/01 2:21:33 AM Eastern Standard Time, ssmith36@sprynet.com writes: > Here's an interview with Ligeti himself about the resumption of the complete > recordings on Teldec. Ligeti, on why English is the best language for setting words to music: "English words are like stones which lie for centuries on the bottom of a river." Ahhhhhhhh.... David np: Barry Guy and the Now Orchestra, Witch Gong Game 11/10 --> Butch Morris, Conduction 23: Quinzaine de Montreal - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 07:03:22 -0800 (PST) From: Scott Handley Subject: new STATE OF THE UNION comp http://www.cdemusic.org/store/cde_search.cfm?keywords=em128 I'd just like to say "damn!". Looks like a friggin new-music Robert Altman film. - ----s NP: A BRIEF HISTORY OF AMBIENT, vol. 1 (Virgin) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 10:20:56 -0500 From: "Steve Smith" Subject: RE: new STATE OF THE UNION comp The two previous installments have been good fun, sort of a 'Commercial Album'(in The Residents sense) of the Downtown elite. This one looks to be no exception. Plus, it's a fundraiser for a good cause. Some of this music - though it's not clear which pieces or performers - will be featured live at 7 p.m. this Monday night at Tonic, as part of a week of concerts marking E#'s 50th (!) birthday. Locals, proceed to www.tonicnyc.com. Steve Smith ssmith36@sprynet.com NP - nothing, about to be Bill Bruford's 'The Sound of Surprise' (DGM) - -----Original Message----- From: owner-zorn-list@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-zorn-list@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Scott Handley Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 10:03 AM To: Zorn-List Subject: new STATE OF THE UNION comp http://www.cdemusic.org/store/cde_search.cfm?keywords=em128 I'd just like to say "damn!". Looks like a friggin new-music Robert Altman film. - - ------------------------------ End of Zorn List Digest V3 #307 ******************************* To unsubscribe from zorn-list-digest, send an email to "majordomo@lists.xmission.com" with "unsubscribe zorn-list-digest" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. 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