From: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (Zorn List Digest) To: zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: Zorn List Digest V3 #312 Reply-To: zorn-list Sender: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Zorn List Digest Friday, March 2 2001 Volume 03 : Number 312 In this issue: - Laswell remix of Turn It Over Re: A Baker's Dozen top ten Re: well-informed, open-minded people Re: "well-informed, open-minded people" Bjork and Zeena Parkins? Top Ten RE: Ibarra / MASADA history??? Re: well-informed, open-minded people Re: Bjork and Zeena Parkins? Re: well-informed, open-minded people RE: Top Ten PROMO: Toshimaru Nakamura/Sachiko M-do PROMO: Phil Durrant/Thomas Lehn/Radu Malfatti-dach ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 12:37:11 -0000 From: "Colourtone" Subject: Laswell remix of Turn It Over Don't think this has come up. Last month Brit magazine Jazzwise mentioned that Bill Laswell has just done a "Panthalassa" to the second Tony Williams Lifetime album Turn It Over. Meant to be ground shaking and with an extra 20 minutes including "the fiercest McLaughlin guitar ever heard". Does anyone know anything, like a label and release date? Richard G - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 07:40:14 EST From: BlackBook78@aol.com Subject: Re: A Baker's Dozen >>10)Yoko Ono - Fly Someone finally mentions Yoko Ono! I'm surprised she isn't discussed here that often to be honest. Fly, and Yoko Ono/Plastic Ono Band, are simply brilliant, imho. Mike - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 10:30:43 -0800 From: Anne & Dan Dellosso Subject: top ten As most of you know this it is very hard to limit the list to ten, so i picked ten that track my musical journey.. 1. Rush - Exit Stage Left 2. The Beatles - The White Album 3. Terry Scott Taylor - Knowledge and Innocence 4. David Bowie - Hunky Dory 5. Charles Mingus - Mingus Ah Um 6. Naked City - Naked City 7. Ornette Coleman - The Shape Of Jazz To Come 8. Sonic Youth - Daydream Nation 9. John Zorn - The Circle Maker 10. Ikue Mori - Garden others that should have made it Zorn - The Big Gundown Luc Ferrari - Cellule 75 Frisell - This Land Miles - Filles De Kilimanjaro Palace Music - Lost Blues and Other Songs Pavement - Wowee Zowee The list could go on........ Dan- - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 07:47:49 -0800 (PST) From: Gavin Dunne Subject: Re: well-informed, open-minded people I find it hard to believe that Patton can be dismissed as he was by his disliker. Seeing bands like Fantomas, in fact seeing Fantomas was the best musical experience of my life....fair enough, you say he should stick to rock music....but then you listen to Rumori Nutrienti on his solo album and its fantastic. I have heard many a saxophone solo by Zorn which includes pieces from that tune (which Patton wrote note for note, I asked him myself), he can't be all that bad if the great man uses his ideas. Gav __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 08:10:33 -0800 From: "Patrice L. Roussel" Subject: Re: "well-informed, open-minded people" On Thu, 01 Mar 2001 19:15:26 EST Nudeants@aol.com wrote: > > I can't really speak for Thurston Moore's non-SY stuff, as I've only heard > Goodbye 20th Century, but to dismiss Patton as a rich kid who doesn't know > how to operate his equipment seems like sour grapes to me. A brief listen ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I was saying that in the context of the Victo show with the X-Ecutioners (they were the expansive toy). I like Patton in a rock context where he is successful at spicing things up with some experimentation. But when playing in the pure field of experimental music, I am not impressed at all by what he can bring to the table. Patrice. - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 08:14:18 -0800 From: "Patrice L. Roussel" Subject: Bjork and Zeena Parkins? I read in the upcoming releases section of MOJO (March 2001): "Bjork Title: Domestika Due: May Production: Mark 'Spike' Stent, (The Spice Girls, Oasis) is manning the faders. Others include Jake Davies and Marius De Vries, who travelled to Iceland after Bjork relocated from New York, where she recorded with Zeena Parkins." - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 08:14:50 -0800 (PST) From: Theo Klaase Subject: Top Ten - --0-1452669396-983549690=:25207 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Top Ten: (in no order) Naked City - S/T Bill Frisell - Is That You? Bill Frisell - Live (w/Baron & Driscoll) Marc Ribot Y Los Cubanos Postizos John Zorn - Taboo and Exile Ginger Baker Trio - Going back home Pigpen - V as in Victim Masada/Zorn - Masada 8 Wes Montgomery - Greatest hits John Zorn - Filmworks 8 - --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Personal Address - Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. - --0-1452669396-983549690=:25207 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

Top Ten:  (in no order)

Naked City - S/T

Bill Frisell - Is That You?

Bill Frisell - Live (w/Baron & Driscoll)

Marc Ribot Y Los Cubanos Postizos

John Zorn - Taboo and Exile

Ginger Baker Trio - Going back home

Pigpen - V as in Victim

Masada/Zorn - Masada 8

Wes Montgomery - Greatest hits

John Zorn - Filmworks 8

 

 

 


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Yahoo! Mail Personal Address - Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. - --0-1452669396-983549690=:25207-- - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 11:25:57 -0500 From: Matt Teichman Subject: RE: Ibarra / MASADA history??? Whoa! I can hardly imagine what Ibarra driving the Masada group would sound like. Must have been amazing! Anything to offer in the way of description? At 09:44 PM 3/1/2001 -0500, Steve Smith wrote: >It happened at the Knitting Factory. Vague recollection says it was >sometime in late '96, or maybe even early '97 while I was working there, but >I can't say for certain. I'll almost guarantee you that Bruce Gallanter >would know, and would have been there taping (not that that will do traders >any good, as his are off limits). - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 08:25:49 -0800 (PST) From: Gavin Dunne Subject: Re: well-informed, open-minded people Mike Once you see Fantomas your opinion of Mr Patton will soar. Tell me what you think after you see it! I can see how you might think he ain't great if you caught a bad show...thats fair enough - --- Mike Chamberlain wrote: > > > > >From: Gavin Dunne > >To: zorn-list@lists.xmission.com > >Subject: Re: well-informed, open-minded people > >Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 07:47:49 -0800 (PST) > > > >I find it hard to believe that Patton can be > dismissed > >as he was by his disliker. > > Believe it. Remember, though, I saw one EXTREMELY > SHITTY performance (BTW, > I wasn't the only person on the list who saw it or > dismissed it). So take > my opinion FWIW, based on one gig that did not > inspire me to further > investigate Mr. Patton's oeuvre. > > >Seeing bands like Fantomas, > >in fact seeing Fantomas was the best musical > >experience of my life.... > > Well, I'll see Fantomas at Victo. I hope it's good. > I have no a priori > dislike of Patton. > > fair enough, you say he > >should stick to rock music....but then you listen > to > >Rumori Nutrienti on his solo album and its > fantastic. > >I have heard many a saxophone solo by Zorn which > >includes pieces from that tune (which Patton wrote > >note for note, I asked him myself), he can't be all > >that bad if the great man uses his ideas. > > > Quite possible there's something there. But based > on what I saw, I remain > unconvinced. > > --Mike > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > >http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > > >- > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > http://www.hotmail.com. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 16:21:18 +0000 From: dan hill Subject: Re: Bjork and Zeena Parkins? > "Bjork > Title: Domestika > Due: May > Production: Mark 'Spike' Stent, (The Spice Girls, Oasis) is manning the > faders. Others include Jake Davies and Marius De Vries, who >travelled to > Iceland after Bjork relocated from New York, where she >recorded with Zeena > Parkins." good news on the zeena parkins thing - should be wild ... matmos have also been heavily involved, which is "a good thing", i think. the album's to be called 'vespertine' now though ... bjork's pretty good site has a little 'special' on the album (under the old working title): http://www.bjork.com/specials/domestika/ and these snippets from the news section. personally, i can't wait. 'homogenic' was an act of genius. today, on bjork news: 1. The latest news about Bj=F6rk's upcoming album Vespertine is that there will be three music videos made during the next few months. Possible song candidates for these videos might be: 'Cocoon', 'Hidden Place', 'It's Not Up To You' But we are not betting our lives upon it! :) The album was mixed by Mark 'Spike' Stent and includes collaborators such as Matmos, Harmony Korine, Thomas Knak, Guy Sigsworth, Marius de Vries, Bogdan Raczynski. A series of concert events are planned with venues & dates yet to be published. These will be supported by a choir, a band and a big orchestra, all coinciding with the planned album release on 21st of May The album was recorded in London, New York, Spain, Denmark, and Iceland. The name Vespertine has roots in a word way back from the 1500s, which has many symbolic meanings; one being something "flourishing in the evening". A vesper is an evening prayer or service (usually sung) conducted during the evening. 2. (tracks) include:cocoon, it's not up to you, undo, crave, unison, embrace fortress, sun in my mouth, aurora and are in no particular order here what so ever. It is NOT a complete list. The cities confirmed for concerts around the release of Vespertine are Paris, New York, Los Angeles, Tokyo and London. It would be totally irresponsible to try to describe what is to be expected at these events, so it will not be done, but what will be said is that we are and will be in for a treat and an experience over the next few months. Ofcourse if we get confirmed dates/news we will be the first ones to publish... Which brings us the next topic burning on our minds, namely the visual aspect of things to come, the video. Bj=F6rk will be teaming up with Paul White for one video, the last one they did was Hunter. Inez Van Lamsweerde and Vinoodh Matadin are to tackle one song, but they did the photographs for Volumen. And lastly we might indeed see Bj=F6rk direct herself. And again these are not in a chronological order or have we got definite songs for the videos. C'est La Vie! :) - -- |||| dan hill - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 08:27:21 -0800 From: "Patrice L. Roussel" Subject: Re: well-informed, open-minded people On Fri, 02 Mar 2001 03:55:32 -0600 "Christina Carter" wrote: > > True innovators attempt and true attemptors innovate. And consummers can have opinions, right? > When we are engaged in the creative act it is an attempt to express what can > never be fully expressed. There is always something left for us to do. Some can look at a room from the inside; most simply stayed outside looking through the keyhole... > Being aware of what is important as a human being and artist is to continue > to be active, participate, contribute, grow, change. > > In _my_ humble opinion, the spirit that creative music is a part of is so > great and so beautiful there need be no other justification or qualification > than having 'caught' that spirit. I was trying to explain the quite uncommon "non-cheerleading" attitude at experimental (or wanna be) music listening. You know, when you do not feel that everything is fantastic and outstanding simply because it is marginally different from what has been done before. Patrice. - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 11:40:11 -0500 From: "Steve Smith" Subject: RE: Top Ten Good lord... another one I'd not ever really want to be without. This island is geting crowded... hope I remembered a whole backpack full of batteries for the discman... Steve Smith ssmith36@sprynet.com - -----Original Message----- From: owner-zorn-list@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-zorn-list@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Tosh 10. P.I.L. Metal Box - Perfect art for a time that wasn't defined yet. That band was great - Wobble, Levine, Rotten wow. - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 11:47:29 EST From: JonAbbey2@aol.com Subject: PROMO: Toshimaru Nakamura/Sachiko M-do sorry for the promotional intrusion, and further apologies if you receive=20 more than one copy of this: I'm proud to announce the release of the latest CD on my label: Toshimaru Nakamura/Sachiko M-do (Erstwhile 013) Toshimaru Nakamura and Sachiko M are two of the most prominent members of th= e=20 burgeoning onkyo movement. Onkyo, a Japanese word meaning "reverberation of=20 sound", places much more emphasis on sound texture than on musical structure= ,=20 distilling elements of techno, noise, and electronic music into a unique=20 hybrid. Nakamura plays the "no-input mixing board", connecting the input of the boar= d=20 to the output, then manipulating the resultant feedback. Since 1998, he's=20 been exploring the possibilities of his instrument in contexts ranging from=20 solo to collaborations with Taku Sugimoto, Keith Rowe, and the duo project=20 Repeat with drummer Jason Kahn. Nakamura is also a co-founder of The=20 Improvisation Meeting at Bar Aoyama, a monthly concert series in Tokyo, whic= h=20 recently changed its name and location to Meeting At Off Site. Sachiko M was a member of the seminal nineties band Ground Zero, led by her=20 frequent collaborator Otomo Yoshihide. Since Ground Zero ended in 1998, she=20 has developed a unique style utilizing a memory-free sampler, creating pure,= =20 piercing sine waves with the device's built-in test tones and noise. Sachiko= =20 has worked extensively as a solo artist, and in groups such as Filament,=20 I.S.O., and Hoahio. She also founded and runs the superb Amoebic label.=20 do is the second release from this duo, following 1998's un (meme). do=20 consists of three live improvisations, recorded in the summer of 2000 at=20 three separate concerts. The unique look of the artwork was created entirely= =20 from the output of a no-input video mixer by NYC designer Chris Harvey. do=20 #1, the 37 minute centerpiece track, is a masterpiece of gradual progression= ,=20 inducing rolling waves inside your head, while constantly, infinitesimally,=20 inexorably creeping forward. "Toshimaru Nakamura and Sachiko M minimize their music to a gorgeous maximum= . In its reduction to electronic signals, the music becomes very physical. You= r=20 speakers become an instrument, and when you move your head or walk around,=20 your ears also become an instrument, you get involved, you can participate.=20 Another prominent aspect is how time seems to escape and how the listener ca= n=20 escape into time simultanously. Not easy listening music for sure. Abstract=20 music? No, to me it seems very concrete."-G=FCnter M=FCller personnel: Toshimaru Nakamura: no-input mixing board Sachiko M: sampler with sine wave track listing: 1. do #1-36:45 2. do #2-2:41 3. do #3-10:39 more info available at the following web sites, or contact Erstwhile Records= =20 at ErstRecs@aol.com: http://www.erstwhilerecords.com http://www.japanimprov.com/tnakamura/ http://www.japanimprov.com/sachikom/ all Erstwhile CDs can be purchased from numerous worldwide distributors, all= =20 of which are listed on my web site. also, all Erstwhile releases can be=20 purchased via direct mail order, details of which are also on my web site.=20 - ------------------------------------------------- future releases from Erstwhile will include: 015: Axel D=F6rner/Kevin Drumm 016: Stilluppsteypa/TV Pow-We Are Everyone In the Room 017: Cor Fuhler/Gert-Jan Prins 018: Keith Rowe/Toshimaru Nakamura 023: Polwechsel/Fennesz - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 11:48:05 EST From: JonAbbey2@aol.com Subject: PROMO: Phil Durrant/Thomas Lehn/Radu Malfatti-dach sorry for the promotional intrusion, and further apologies if you receive=20 more than one copy of this: I'm proud to announce the release of the latest CD on my label: Phil Durrant/Thomas Lehn/Radu Malfatti-dach (Erstwhile 014) =20 Phil Durrant/Thomas Lehn/Radu Malfatti-dach (Erstwhile 014) Radu Malfatti has been a major presence in the European free improv scene=20 since the early seventies. He's been a member of such stellar bands as the=20 Brotherhood of Breath, the London Jazz Composers' Orchestra, and the King Ub= u=20 Orchestra, as well as countless small groups. Since the early nineties,=20 Malfatti has focused solely on developing a unique style of superspare,=20 tranquil music, both in his compositions and his improvisations.=20 Phil Durrant has worked in a wide range of settings, in bands such as Lunge=20 and Ticklish, and in acoustic and electroacoustic projects with John Butcher= .=20 While Durrant is an expert with live electronics, here he performs=20 exclusively on his original instrument, the violin. Thomas Lehn's unique=20 analogue synthesizer skills have made him one of the most prominent figures=20 on the European festival circuit, in bands such as Konk Pack and Toot, as=20 well as in duos with Gerry Hemingway and Marcus Schmickler, both of which ha= ve previously been documented on Erstwhile. Both Durrant and Lehn are integral= =20 members of the all-star MIMEO electronic orchestra. dach (German for roof) is the second disc by this trio, following beinhaltun= g=20 (Fringes), and is a live recording from the 1999 Kaleidophon festival in=20 Ulrichsberg, Austria. dach is an environmental improv record, in the=20 tradition of Derek Bailey/Min Tanaka-Music And Dance (Revenant). Only the=20 rain falling on the white plastic roof is audible as the performance begins.= =20 As the sun gradually emerges, warming the roof's metal supports, the creakin= g=20 and cracking roof becomes a fourth sound source for the remainder of the=20 performance. The artwork is composed entirely of photos of the venue,=20 primarily of the roof, as captured by Olga Dafeldecker. dach occupies the=20 zone between silence and sound, forcing the listener into a state of=20 hyperawareness. "Having released the first cd by this trio, I was very curious to see how fa= r=20 they could go......so?.....impressed, excited, sad (for not being there at=20 the concert), and a bit jealous (for not releasing this one too!!!). Pure,=20 simple and extremely complex all at once, with an attention and care to=20 details and dynamics that leaves me amazed. Yes, I already have one title fo= r=20 my 'best of 2001' lists!"-Giuseppe Ielasi personnel: Phil Durrant -violin=20 Thomas Lehn-analogue synthesizer Radu Malfatti-trombone track listing 1. dach-56:57 more info available at the following web sites, or contact Erstwhile Records= =20 at ErstRecs@aol.com: http://www.erstwhilerecords.com http://www.shef.ac.uk/misc/rec/ps/efi/musician/mlehn.html http://userweb.interactive.net/~gerryhem/lehn.html http://www.shef.ac.uk/misc/rec/ps/efi/mmalfatt.html all Erstwhile CDs can be purchased from numerous worldwide distributors, all= =20 of which are listed on my web site. also, all Erstwhile releases can be=20 purchased via direct mail order, details of which are also on my web site.=20 - ------------------------------------------------- future releases from Erstwhile will include: 015: Axel D=F6rner/Kevin Drumm 016: Stilluppsteypa/TV Pow-We Are Everyone In the Room 017: Cor Fuhler/Gert-Jan Prins 018: Keith Rowe/Toshimaru Nakamura 023: Polwechsel/Fennesz - - ------------------------------ End of Zorn List Digest V3 #312 ******************************* To unsubscribe from zorn-list-digest, send an email to "majordomo@lists.xmission.com" with "unsubscribe zorn-list-digest" in the body of the message. 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