From: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (Zorn List Digest) To: zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: Zorn List Digest V3 #395 Reply-To: zorn-list Sender: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Zorn List Digest Monday, April 23 2001 Volume 03 : Number 395 In this issue: - Amon Tobin (was: Re: Odp: Sónar Festival 2001) Maruo Suehiro RE: Maruo Suehiro Re: Maruo Suehiro Suehiro Maruo Re: Suehiro Maruo Re: Zornheads accents and sounds book of heads Odp: Upcoming Tzadik releases G- Force? G- team? Mao's Moon unwrapping the gift Re: Upcoming Tzadik releases disc review and a Lounge Lizard experience... Re: Book of Heads Pharmacopia The Well-Tuned Piano DVD Re: Book of Heads Re: Book of Heads Fantomas - live in Europe Re: Book of Heads Re: Book of Heads Zorn's "Songs for the Hemetic Theatre" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 08:39:37 +0200 From: patRice Subject: Amon Tobin (was: Re: Odp: Sónar Festival 2001) Dave Trenkel wrote: > I saw Tobin DJ-ing a few years > back, and it was pretty thoroughly underwhelming. Hopefully, he's gotten > better. I read an interview with Tobin some time ago - he said that he doesn't consider himself a technically good DJ. Said he's not even interested in becoming good at it. He feels that what's important is the programming of his DJ sets; and he said that he considers himself pretty good in that field. (On another list I've subscribed to - for DJs - that's the point of discussion currently: technically good DJ vs. DJ who knows how to programme his sets.) patRice np: The Melvins, The Maggot nr: Various, Japanese Tattoo Artist Horiyoshi's World - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 08:54:10 +0200 From: patRice Subject: Maruo Suehiro Hi y'all... Has anyone ever seen one of the books available by Maruo Suehiro? (The guy who made the illustrations used inside the Naked City Elektra debut CD booklet.) Comments would be very much appreciated. patRice - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 11:09:15 -0400 From: "Chad Mairn" Subject: RE: Maruo Suehiro I have 'Mr. Arashi's Amazing Freak Show' by Suehiro Maruo. Basically, it is about a lost orphan girl who decides to travel with a freak show. The graphic novel is in black and white and has its surreal and violent qualities, which everyone is probably familiar with. However, there are some fairly beautiful scenes as well. The characters are certainly unique. For instance, the story introduces the human worm, Kanabun the boy-girl, Hohichi the human pretzel, the snake woman etc. etc. It is definitely worth checking out! Original Message----- From: owner-zorn-list@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-zorn-list@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of patRice Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 2:54 AM To: zorn-list@lists.xmission.com Subject: Maruo Suehiro Hi y'all... Has anyone ever seen one of the books available by Maruo Suehiro? (The guy who made the illustrations used inside the Naked City Elektra debut CD booklet.) Comments would be very much appreciated. patRice - - - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 17:53:16 +0200 From: patRice Subject: Re: Maruo Suehiro Hi Chad... Thanks a lot for your comment. I think you convinced me to order a copy. Recently I also discovered another Japanese illustrator/painter, named Toshio Saeki. Very good stuff, but his first two books are no longer published. Can only be found on Bookfinder - at rather high prices. :-( patRice np: Naked City, Naked City nr: s.f.a Chad Mairn wrote: > > I have 'Mr. Arashi's Amazing Freak Show' by Suehiro Maruo. Basically, it is > about a lost orphan girl who decides to travel with a freak show. The > graphic novel is in black and white and has its surreal and violent > qualities, which everyone is probably familiar with. However, > there are some fairly beautiful scenes as well. > > The characters are certainly unique. For instance, the story introduces the > human worm, Kanabun the boy-girl, Hohichi the human pretzel, the snake woman > etc. etc. It is definitely worth checking out! - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 11:23:45 -0700 From: Tosh Subject: Suehiro Maruo Whenever I go to Japan I try to pick up his mangas (Japanese comic books). I think his work is fantastic. They are sort of a combination of retro Japan (20's era), pornography with a big Georges Bataille aesthetic thrown in. As far as I know there is only one title in English, but still it is worth picking up the Japanese books because they are so beautiful. I am kind of surprise that there is not a big cult for him in the West. Also an additional 'cultural' note about Maruo's work - some of the models used in his stories/images are actual Japanese showbiz figures from the Twenties and Thirties. So there is that aspect of Japanese pop culture that is missing in the translation. The comics in Japan are only about $18.00 (well worth it). I wonder if there is a store in the U.S. that carries them? - -- Tosh Berman TamTam Books http://www.tamtambooks.com > > - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 15:26:17 EDT From: Knutboy@aol.com Subject: Re: Suehiro Maruo - --part1_f.131d1548.281338d9_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've been able to order quite a few through Kino Kinea here in New York. Usually $20 bucks a pop, and a bargain. Amazing work. - --part1_f.131d1548.281338d9_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've been able to order quite a few through Kino Kinea here in New York.
Usually $20 bucks a pop, and a bargain. Amazing work. - --part1_f.131d1548.281338d9_boundary-- - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 23:27:45 EDT From: DvdBelkin@aol.com Subject: Re: Zornheads In a message dated 4/19/01 3:53:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time, DvdBelkin@aol.com writes: > How's the Book of Heads? You know, the Zorn guitar etudes played by Ribot. Anybody? David np: Epiphany by Company - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 10:57:14 +0200 From: "Francesco Martinelli" Subject: accents and sounds .> >(And > > Francesco, if you're out there reading this, how am I going to identify you > > at Tonic this week?) I didnt read it - I was at Tonic only for the Thursday gig though. I met Brandon Evans, Bruce Gallanter, saw Kevin Norton, Bruce Eisenbeil, Mark Dresser, Steve Dalachinsky, besides the musicians and the Master of Ceremonies of course. > Steve, look for the guy who looks just like Lopez but speaks with a > charming Italian accent! Thanks - I had mixed reviews, so to speak, about that in my recent trip. Of course when someone mentions it I tend to become self conscious and it gets worse. Or maybe in an American speaking context it does sound different. NP - Pat Martino, the recent reissue of Live! and Consciousness on 32 Jazz. That's what a week in Philly does.... - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 12:34:42 -0000 From: "Arthur Gadney" Subject: book of heads >How's the Book of Heads? Essential. I would call it a classic. Probably the most revolutionary and original thing Zorn has ever done. Ribot's playing is unbelievable as well. Not easy listening though. Very chaotic. If you can get the full score, do so, and follow it while listening. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 12:48:09 +0200 From: "Marcin Gokieli" Subject: Odp: Upcoming Tzadik releases - ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Smith > Filmworks X Anyone has any more precise info? Marcin Gokieli marcin.gokieli@mospan.pl marcingokieli@go2.pl Generally speaking, if a philosopher offers to 'dissolve' the problem you are working on, tell him to go climb a tree - Jerry Fodor - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 18:17:39 +0200 From: "Marcin Gokieli" Subject: G- Force? G- team? Hi, Anyone remembers a japanese cartoon called G-force or G - team (it was called 'zaloga g' in Poland)? A kind of super cheesy sf cartoon about a group of brave people fighting the evil Zoltar? A friend of mine wants to cover the music from that glorious movie, it was a classic in Polnd some 20 years ago... maybe the first such thing here. If anyone could help in finding the tune, i'd be extremely grateful. PS: I sent this message from another account, so two copies of it may arrive on the list. But it's VERY important ;-) Marcin Gokieli marcin.gokieli@mospan.pl marcingokieli@go2.pl Generally speaking, if a philosopher offers to 'dissolve' the problem you are working on, tell him to go climb a tree - Jerry Fodor Marcin Gokieli marcin.gokieli@mospan.pl marcingokieli@go2.pl Generally speaking, if a philosopher offers to 'dissolve' the problem you are working on, tell him to go climb a tree - Jerry Fodor - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 17:49:44 -0000 From: "thomas chatterton" Subject: Mao's Moon Well, here in Canada, where it appears to be a (thought) crime to sell John Zorn CDs, I managed to find a copy of 'The Gift', oddly enough at a classical music speciality shop, on the first day I started working there as the jazz/world music buyer. However, listening to the haunting 'Mao's Moon' (track 6) with its gorgeous Dave Douglas trumpet solo, I can't help but think that I've heard this theme somewhere before, even though it is credited to Mr. Zorn. Anyone else notice this? Any ideas where that theme originates? np: The Gift (but I promise I won't look at the pictures!) _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 22:33:12 +0200 From: Rob Allaert Subject: unwrapping the gift Zorn-agains, I've unwrapped the Gift and somehow succeeded to not interpret the pictures in a bad way. But still, that picture with the beaten girl with the eye bandage with hands all over. How do the 'yeah'-sayers deal with this one ? greetings, Rob @ risk np: a 1000 evenings - Dave Douglas - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 21:48:00 -0400 (EDT) From: konrad Subject: Re: Upcoming Tzadik releases > > RADICAL JEWISH CULTURE > Jewlia Eisenberg I believe this will be the a capella version of the band Charming Hostess, Jewlia accompanied by Carla Kihlstedt and Nina Rolle. They're from Oakland and also play as a larger ensemble with guys backing them who used to be in the Oakland art/punk band Idiot Flesh. One time this lineup played a gigue where Frith joined them for a half a set, and they even performed some Art Bears songs. > ARCHIVAL SERIES > Bosch/Beuys Does anyone know anything about this Beuys one? Are we talking Heironymus Bosch here or the tool company? > ORACLES > Carla Kihlstedt This i suspect will be Carla's solo violin and voice songs. She's pretty incredible, and if you live in the Bay Area you can see her play pretty often. You may know her from Tin Hat Trio fame. konrad ^Z - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 09:13:11 +0100 (WET DST) From: Ricardo Reis Subject: disc review and a Lounge Lizard experience... Hi Z-people! One disc and one weird concert: 1st, the disc: Mao Morta is a portuguese group who carved a niche on rock-underground world here, using their work to express a political statement (to the music, this is unimportant as far i'm concerned). Their last disc, "Primavera de Destrocos" ("spring of wreckage" in a free translation) is out. I thought on given it a light review for the list, maybe some of you would be interested in listening to it (and i would be very interested in knowing your opinion, especially because i doubt you understand portuguese and so are not influenced by lyrics): # Mao Morta, "Primavera de Destrocos", EMI/Valentin de Carvalho: The disc uses a lot of guitar riff, simple figures to accentuate the declamation of the vocal lider, Adolfo Luxuria Canibal. It's interesting this use, like a companion in his "singing" (like walking) or to give emphasis to his silence. Canibal's voice is deep, going in grave tones, it sometimes remembers me of Sepultura vocalist (first song) although i can understand all he says :). He doesn't sings but you can rather compare this to a spoken word with music. Although i make some association with Trent Reznor's NiN it's only a slight feeling in some of the songs (the first basically) due to the evolution of expressed feelings (Downward spiral). The lyrics (and so the "reading"), goes through some pain, rage, the silent kind, growing up, exploding or dying away but the motives (musical and lyrics) are particular to the group. They used some oriental motives, tibetan like, on one of the songs (3, "tu disseste") and a cricket singing sampler, and, on the background of another (4, "penso o que penso") use some ambient motives, like water running (read it was a sampling of water drums), for instance. On the song "Humano" a sampler of W.S.Bourrougs reading "Bradley the buyer" is used to a good effect, responding with a question to the Canibal's musings. This song also has an effective use of strings through the use of sampling. Another, homage to a portuguese author's book (Mario Henrique Letria "Tales of the Tonic-Gin") obeys to a cabaret style evolution. Another instruments that appear in some songs (through sampling or direct playing): bass, drums, hammond, sax, vibraphone, piano, trumpet, whistle, water drums, violin, berimbau...) Oh, yeah... I started this afternoon (i'm writing this the 22th) thinking that I should write a review of John Lourie and the Lounge Lizards concert here at Lisbon. Then i realised that the concert is only in late June and i've dreamt it this night... gurk, someone has been pouring things on my food... greets, Ricardo Reis "NON SERVIAM" - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 03:56:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Andy Marks Subject: Re: Book of Heads I've always wondered why the score wasn't included with this. Sure, there's a little but it's barely legible. Anybody know where to get the score? >>How's the Book of Heads? >Essential. I would call it a classic. Probably the most revolutionary and >original thing Zorn has ever done. Ribot's playing is unbelievable as well. >Not easy listening though. Very chaotic. If you can get the full score, do >so, and follow it while listening. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 09:35:50 -0400 From: "& c." Subject: Pharmacopia Has any one else recieved an email from a band called Pharmacopia? I don't know how I got on their mailing list. I wonder if this is connected with the list on any one on it. Zach _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 10:38:26 -0400 From: David Beardsley Subject: The Well-Tuned Piano DVD Some folks here might be interested: The Well-Tuned Piano in The Magenta Lights DVD Installation Opens in Germany and Just Dreams Announces Release of La Monte Young / Marian Zazeela DVD of The Well-Tuned Piano in The Magenta Lights http://lamonteyoung.com - -- * D a v i d B e a r d s l e y * 49/32 R a d i o "all microtonal, all the time" * http://www.virtulink.com/immp/lookhere.htm * hint hint ---> http://mp3.com/davidbeardsley - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 15:27:12 -0000 From: "thomas chatterton" Subject: Re: Book of Heads >From: Andy Marks > >>How's the Book of Heads? > > >Essential. I would call it a classic. Probably the >most revolutionary and original thing Zorn has ever done. Ribot's playing >is unbelievable as well. Well, I beg to differ on this one, I found it boring and predictable, Ribot's attempt at 'outside' guitar playing is too derivative of Fred Frith... np:Burnt Friedman Con Ritmo _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 17:35:12 +0200 From: patRice Subject: Re: Book of Heads thomas chatterton wrote: > >From: Andy Marks > > > >>How's the Book of Heads? > > > > >Essential. I would call it a classic. Probably the > >most revolutionary and original thing Zorn has ever done. Ribot's playing > >is unbelievable as well. > > Well, I beg to differ on this one, I found it boring and predictable, > Ribot's attempt at 'outside' guitar playing is too derivative of Fred > Frith... So it's Zorn who's to "blame" really, isn't it? I mean - he wrote all the pieces... Wasn't "The Book of Heads" also originally written for some other guitar player? patRice - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 18:06:03 +0200 From: patRice Subject: Fantomas - live in Europe Hi ther... Thought some of you might be interested: Looks as if FANTOMAS will be touring Europe in July. I'll definitely go check them out... patRice np: Depeche Mode, 101 nr: Eiji Yoshikawa, Taiko - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 17:03:48 -0000 From: "thomas chatterton" Subject: Re: Book of Heads >From: patRice > >So it's Zorn who's to "blame" really, isn't it? >I mean - he wrote all the pieces... > Interesting point...not being familiar with the parameters of the score, I am unable to discern how much the performer brings into this work...in any case, no blame! _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 19:08:30 +0200 From: patRice Subject: Re: Book of Heads thomas chatterton wrote: > > >From: patRice > > > >So it's Zorn who's to "blame" really, isn't it? > >I mean - he wrote all the pieces... > > > > Interesting point...not being familiar with the parameters of the score, I > am unable to discern how much the performer brings into this work...in any > case, no blame! Well - I don't know neither. But as far as I remember, most of it is rather clearly written out. Somebody else might know better...?! patRice - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 17:34:20 EDT From: Orangejazz@aol.com Subject: Zorn's "Songs for the Hemetic Theatre" Anyone have any information on this upcoming release? from, matt - - ------------------------------ End of Zorn List Digest V3 #395 ******************************* To unsubscribe from zorn-list-digest, send an email to "majordomo@lists.xmission.com" with "unsubscribe zorn-list-digest" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. A non-digest (direct mail) version of this list is also available; to subscribe to that instead, replace all instances of "zorn-list-digest" in the commands above with "zorn-list". 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