From: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (Zorn List Digest) To: zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: Zorn List Digest V3 #510 Reply-To: zorn-list Sender: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Zorn List Digest Thursday, July 19 2001 Volume 03 : Number 510 In this issue: - Fushitsusha Recommendations Charly Records HQ Re: Zorn singing Re: Stuff that's been spinnin' Story of Iceland Jazz in London? Jazz in London? Re: Fushitsusha xtatica, okkyung lee, steve dalachinsky, spunk lads saturday ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 14:17:48 -0400 From: David Keffer Subject: Fushitsusha Recommendations On the subject of Fushitsusha recommendations, I will point out that there is a database of Haino reviews (most in English and some in French) on the "Reviews" page located at http://www.planetc.com/users/keffer/haino/index.html The reviews are written by a wide variety of people and for the same album, often present dissenting opinions. It's a good place to find out what some other people think about the various albums, as well as an opportunity to post your own thoughts on them. David K. - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 19:53:12 +0100 From: "David John Howarth" Subject: Charly Records HQ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0050_01C1108C.717BF720 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 On Wed, 18 Jul 2001 00:18:06 -0000 we had: From: "thomas chatterton" Subject: Re: Charly (was Re: Xtatika, etc.) >From: "Bill Ashline" > But then again Charly looks like a rather >corrupt outfit... There's a great story about Charly when Universal (MCA) sued them for=20 kazillions of dollars over their unauthorised selling of the Chess = Records=20 catalog; The specific company (say Charly Holdings Ltd.) at the specific = address filed for bankruptcy, while a new company (say Charly Ltd. = Holdings)=20 in the same building but with a new street address around the corner = went=20 into business the next day, minus the Chess titles of course... _________________________________________________________________________= Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at = http://www.hotmail.com. Unless I'm completely mad I used to pass that self same building here in = South London (near the bottom end of The Old Kent Road for them as know = and care) when I took a slightly different route into one of my previous = job. As I recall the building (small industrial unit) was on a corner = plot and one day the company logo did dissappear from view, though the = business was obviously still there. too rough an area to want to ever go = exploring though... Best Dave Howarth - ------=_NextPart_000_0050_01C1108C.717BF720 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 

On  Wed, 18 Jul 2001 00:18:06 -0000

we had:


From: "thomas chatterton" <chatterton23@hotmail.com>=
Subject:=20 Re: Charly (was Re: Xtatika, etc.)

>From: "Bill Ashline" = <bashline@hotmail.com>
>=
But=20 then again Charly looks like a rather
>corrupt = outfit...

There's a=20 great story about Charly when Universal (MCA) sued them for =
kazillions of=20 dollars over their unauthorised selling of the Chess Records =
catalog; The=20 specific company (say Charly Holdings Ltd.) at the specific
address = filed=20 for bankruptcy, while a new company (say Charly Ltd. Holdings)
in = the same=20 building but with a new street address around the corner went
into = business=20 the next day, minus the Chess titles of=20 course...
____________________________________________________________= _____________
Get=20 Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

 

Unless I'm completely mad I used to pass that self = same=20 building here in South London (near the bottom end of The Old Kent Road = for them=20 as know and care) when I took a slightly different route into one of my = previous=20 job. As I recall the building (small industrial unit) was on a corner = plot and=20 one day the company logo did dissappear from view, though the business = was=20 obviously still there. too rough an area to want to ever go exploring=20 though...

Best

Dave Howarth

- ------=_NextPart_000_0050_01C1108C.717BF720-- - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 18:55:07 From: "William York" Subject: Re: Zorn singing >.zorn-tremblin' g-d. =20 >While I'm liking this, I'm itching for more instrumentation in these = >tunes, its pretty sparse for my tastes. thus my favorite cuts are the >two >w/ baptista. also is this the premiere of singing zorn? just = >curious Someone mentioned the Gainsbourg tribute and Naked City (you have to listen closely to pick out his shrieking alongsode Y.Eye's). He also does a little "shoop-shoop" singing on 'The Big Gundown', track 7, can't remember the title. WY (who hasn't bought a Zorn release since late '99 ... too much other stuff to keep up with!) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 12:12:01 -0700 From: "Patrice L. Roussel" Subject: Re: Stuff that's been spinnin' On Thu, 19 Jul 2001 01:54:19 EDT JonAbbey2@aol.com wrote: > > < listening to disc one, I didn't even want to bother with disc two (I did, a > couple days later). Agonizingly dull guitar work (why, Stangl, why!), and I > never want to hear another tongue in a mouthpiece. I'll give it another try > when the bitter taste has worn off a bit.>> > > yeah, this is my frontrunner for disappointing record of the year. a very > puzzling release, made even stranger when you learn that it's actually an > hour of material slowed down to half-speed. I hope this dud isn't keeping > people from buying dach. You reassure me... For a while I thought it was a Teletubies version of improv where every sound is isolated to be sure that you can understand (?) each of them without the confusing proximity of the others. The Teletubies feeling was even stronger when I realized that there was a second CD (for those who did not get the deep concept underlying the first one, I guess). You imagine a Mozart opera with such approach? It would take at least 1000 CD to reach such result... Patrice. - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 21:39:18 +0100 From: "David John Howarth" Subject: Story of Iceland This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0070_01C1109B.43B38BA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 02:15:58 +1000 From: "Julian" Subject: Re: Recent frequent plays > >Eyvind Kang: Story of Icelund > > I've been wanting to listen to this album for quite a long time but it never > made it to Spanish shops (that I Know). Is it worth the $? I was = really > disappointed by some sections of "Theater of MIneral Nades", in particular > by the Middle Ages music included. This is not the case of "Story of > Iceland", is it? I really like it. But then again I didn't mind the Medieval stuff on = 'ToMN'. It was the reggae-ish stuff near the end I couldn't stand. Anyway, brief description of 'Iceland': the album starts off with a suite of 5 pieces which keep returning to the main theme (which is a very nice, = multi-layered little theme). After that there's a song (with singing, that is) that = kind of sounds a little bit like Bowie, but the concept is to repeat the main tune, building up, adding layers, etc... And finally there is a short gamelan piece. On the whole, a very enjoyable album... ______ Gotta say that this has been one of my favourite albums in quite some = time.=20 (I've yet to get to grips with the earlier"7 Nades".) what made it for me is the track described as "a bit like Bowie" or as I = call=20 "10:10" 'The greatest song Eno never wrote'! Hey its called "10:10" its = the last track on the cd and its looped, why it wasn't on "Taking Tiger Mountain..." = I'll never know. Best Dave Howarth (Currently playing a naughty md of Acid Mothers Temple captured from the = web in=20 glorious mid-fi and bloody pleased that after all this time I worked out = how to do it!!) - ------=_NextPart_000_0070_01C1109B.43B38BA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 Date:=20 Fri, 20 Jul 2001 02:15:58 +1000
From: "Julian" <jcurwin@hartingdale.com.au= >
Subject:=20 Re: Recent frequent plays

> >Eyvind Kang: Story of=20 Icelund
>
> I've been wanting to listen to this album for = quite a=20 long time but it
never
> made it to Spanish shops (that I = Know). Is it=20 worth the $? I was really
> disappointed by some sections of = "Theater of=20 MIneral Nades", in
particular
> by the Middle Ages music = included. This=20 is not the case of "Story of
> Iceland", is it?

I really = like it.=20 But then again I didn't mind the Medieval stuff on 'ToMN'.
It was the = reggae-ish stuff near the end I couldn't stand. Anyway, = brief
description of=20 'Iceland': the album starts off with a suite of 5 pieces
which keep = returning=20 to the main theme (which is a very nice, multi-layered
little theme). = After=20 that there's a song (with singing, that is) that kind
of sounds a = little bit=20 like Bowie, but the concept is to repeat the main
tune, building up, = adding=20 layers, etc... And finally there is a short
gamelan piece. On the = whole, a=20 very enjoyable album...
______
 
  =20 Gotta say that this has been one of my favourite albums in quite some = time.=20
(I've=20 yet to get to grips with the earlier"7 Nades".)
what=20 made it for me is the track described as "a bit like Bowie" or as I call =
"10:10"=20 'The greatest song Eno never wrote'! Hey its called "10:10" its the last = track
 on=20 the cd and its looped, why it wasn't on "Taking Tiger Mountain..." I'll = never=20 know.
 
Best
Dave=20 Howarth
(Currently=20 playing a naughty md of Acid Mothers Temple captured from the web in=20
glorious=20 mid-fi and bloody pleased that after all this time I worked out how to = do=20 it!!)
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Can people recommend any venues/shows = in London=20 the
week of Aug 5-9?
 
Thanks in advance
 
- = Tal
- ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C110AF.7EC75B40-- - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 00:04:07 +0200 From: "Tal Goldman" Subject: Jazz in London? This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C110AF.7EC75B40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1255" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Can people recommend any venues/shows in London the week of Aug 5-9? Thanks in advance - - Tal - ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C110AF.7EC75B40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="windows-1255" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Can people recommend any venues/shows = in London=20 the
week of Aug 5-9?
 
Thanks in advance
 
- = Tal
- ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C110AF.7EC75B40-- - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 17:31:36 EDT From: JonAbbey2@aol.com Subject: Re: Fushitsusha In a message dated 7/19/01 8:30:05 AM, bashline@hotmail.com writes: << I assume what you're saying is that there's very little consensus on what the "best" Fushitsusha release is. Am I right? >> yes, but more specifically, that a primary reason for that is that the records tend to be so massive and indigestible that no one, with the possible exceptions of Nick Cain, Alan Cummings and David Keffer, does much head-to-head comparison of them, so a lot of opinions are largely based on the level of tolerance and interest of the listener at the time. I'm still not saying that too clearly, but hopefully you get the point. Jon www.erstwhilerecords.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 22:34:11 +0000 From: "Kurt Gottschalk" Subject: xtatica, okkyung lee, steve dalachinsky, spunk lads saturday >* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > >STEVE DALACHINKSY, OKKYUNG LEE, XTATIKA, THE SPUNKLADS > >Saturday, July 21, 8 pm >The Brecht Forum >122 West 27th Street, 10th Floor, Manhattan >$6-10 sliding scale >212-242-4201 for info > >Neues Kabarett will host a benefit concert to raise funds for performance >facilities at The Brecht Forum's loft. > >8:00 - STEVE DALACHINSKY will read from his recently released book of >poetry, "a superintendent's eyes," and other work. > >8:15 - OKKYUNG LEE will perform a solo set. A native of Korea, Lee is a >cellist and composer who explores contemporary classical, free >improvisation, noise, Korean folk music, movies and jazz in order to create >her original voice. > >9:00 - XTATIKA will perform from their newly released debut album "Tongue >Bath" (Tzadik). Xtatika reveals the unique visions of singer/songwriter >Haena Kim that include traditional Korean samulnori beats. Featuring >hypnotic vocals, nasty electric bass (Mas Yamagata) and two driving Korean >percussionists (Kyungwook Jung and Vong Pak), this is a band that opens up >an exciting new world of sound. A magical blend of alternative rock with >Korean traditional music. > >"Xtatika will stir up the spirits tonight...A bizarre mix of Korean >percussion, dark moods and leader Haena Kim's vocals... Tongue Bath hits on >enough genuinely odd places to make it the sort of record that you can't >stop listening to...Should be intense onstage…" -- Time Out New York > >10:00 - THE SPUNK LADS are known as "the great lost punk band from '76." >The Spunk Lads gained an almost instant legendary status in London. Some >critics >consider The Spunk Lads to be the true fathers of punk, predating the early >success of fellow London punks the Damned, the Sex Pistols and the Clash >though their influence and impact upon these bands is more than just >obvious. > >"You'll hopefully never get to see Sham or the Pistols. God forbid another >"reunion" tour. On the other hand, we from the U.K. gave america another >run of the Sex Pistols and what did you give us? KISS. Did these gobshites >in clown make-up ever break up long enough to make a reunion justifiable? >They're like the clap -- just when you think it's all over, the burning & >itching fucking returns. And hopefully the Clash will resist the urge to >reunite. But The Spunk Lads, that's a different story -- you can't reunite >if you were never truly united to begin with." -- Spunk Lads communique _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - - ------------------------------ End of Zorn List Digest V3 #510 ******************************* To unsubscribe from zorn-list-digest, send an email to "majordomo@lists.xmission.com" with "unsubscribe zorn-list-digest" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. A non-digest (direct mail) version of this list is also available; to subscribe to that instead, replace all instances of "zorn-list-digest" in the commands above with "zorn-list". Back issues are available for anonymous FTP from ftp.xmission.com, in pub/lists/zorn-list/archive. These are organized by date. Problems? Email the list owner at zorn-list-owner@lists.xmission.com