From: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (Zorn List Digest) To: zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: Zorn List Digest V3 #591 Reply-To: zorn-list Sender: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Zorn List Digest Thursday, October 11 2001 Volume 03 : Number 591 In this issue: - RE: OT: Eyvind Kang and Michael Bisio - MBEK[tm] (Meniscus) Re: Witness/Red/Santa Cruz Re: Witness Re: Masada live at Tonic Where's Lurie? Odp: Odp: The function of the studio Re: Masada live at Tonic Fetish 69 (NZC) Re: Where's Lurie? RE: Fetish 69 (NZC) Fwd: Re: Where's Lurie? Re: OT: Eyvind Kang and Michael Bisio - MBEK[tm] (Meniscus) Re: OT: Eyvind Kang and Michael Bisio - MBEK[tm] (Meniscus) Patrice & Masada Re: Patrice & Masada for detroit zorn-listers Re: Patrice & Masada Re: Re: Where's Lurie? Where is Jazzland? LaMonte Young DVD Re: Where is Jazzland? Mengelberg ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 13:57:01 -0700 From: hatta Subject: RE: OT: Eyvind Kang and Michael Bisio - MBEK[tm] (Meniscus) I have this album, and I like it quite a bit. It is a recording of a pure improv show with Eyvind and Michael, playing just violin and Double Bass. It is not super out in a 'Sweetness of Sickness' way, but it has none of the compositional structure of say 'Story of Iceland' either. No structure, and it varies quite a bit in tonalities and volume. You really get to hear Eyvind play, and Michael too, whom I think is fantastic. That's really about all I can say about it without listening to it again. I seem to recall I had some difficulty getting it, but I do reccomend it. - -Robert >Has anyone got this album, is it likely that a lover of Kangs other recent >works would like it? >Case - -- Todays Playlist (10.08.01): Dave Douglas 'Witness' The Bill Frisell Band 'Lookout for Hope' Toshimura Nakamura / Sachiko M 'do' - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 19:34:53 EDT From: Fastian@aol.com Subject: Re: Witness/Red/Santa Cruz In a message dated 10/8/01 2:09:16 PM Pacific Daylight Time, efrendv@yahoo.e= s=20 writes: << Dan Frank Kuehn wrote: > > > Craig (he looks like some kind of redheaded mulatto) was astounding, > > Really? What do you look like? > > This is really an offensive, crass, and tasteless comment. > > Bob Sweet =20 Maybe my poor English makes me miss something but WHERE'S THE OFFENCE in "mulatto"?. I am Spanish, dark skin, dark hair, dark eyes. Should I feel offended by someone calling me "Latino" then? =20 Sorry, but I hate euphemisms. In my country, what was formerly known as GENOCIDE (genocidio) is called now ETHNIC CLEANING (limpieza =E9tnica). Thi= s is just an example among many ridiculous others which I think should be avoided like the plague. =20 Best, =20 Efr=E9n del Valle >> What I found amusing was he was more offended by the term redheaded=20 mulatto than by Chris Speed being called a retarded vagrant. Which I guess= =20 means if you're a white guy you can be called anything in the book without=20 the pc police being summoned. By the way, the band was great in Santa Cruz=20 last night. It was a real treat to see that much talent all assembled. =20 Besides all the beautiful noise going on, there was also very tasty melodic=20 solos going down as well, esp. by Speed, Taborn, and Saft. I thought having= =20 2 keyboards might be overkill, but they really complemented each other. I'm=20 glad Douglas likes playing California because not too many other NY bands=20 head out this way. Cheers, John Threadgould np Ta Eko Mo- Theo Jorgensmann 4tet - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 03:21:10 EDT From: Jeffcalt@aol.com Subject: Re: Witness I saw this band tonight at the Knitting Factory Hollywood and they were absolutely killer. As much as I am impressed with the album, they were much better live. They have much more of a electric Miles groove going than on album (in large part due to the double-keyboards). Craig Taborn was fantastic on the Fender Rhodes, with Jamie Saft less so on electric piano, although he also had his moments. I dug Brad Jones' sound on electric stand-up bass (don't think i've ever seen it before) and Mori's ambient effects were pretty unique--much more prominent live than on album. Douglas sounded, as always, brilliant (although I'm much more impressed with him live). The only disappointment was Chris Speed, who seemed to be off doing his own thing a bit too much. This was only the band's fourth show together, but they sounded great together. I too am very glad Douglas enjoys playing out west--this was his 3rd time playing the Knit Hollywood in the past year (the others being his quartet and Charms of the Night Sky), and we are lucky for it. jeff caltabiano - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 09:37:34 +0200 From: patRice Subject: Re: Masada live at Tonic Eriedell@aol.com wrote: > Recently got it. I haven't yet had a chance to dig into the entire album, > but here's what I think so far. I know patRice doesn't dig the group so much > and frequently voices that he wishes they would stop playing together so that > zorn could get on with other projects. Sorry, but you mistook me for someone else! Never did I say such a thing. I only ever expressed my wish that hopefully one day Zorn will release something on CD featuring the Masada line-up with Marc Ribot! patRice np: Mr. Bungle, California nr: sfa - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 10:32:04 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?efr=E9n=20del=20valle?= Subject: Where's Lurie? Hi, I've wondering what the Lizards have been doing lately. Their last album I know of is "Queen of all Ears", which, as far as I know, was recorded around 1993 although published much later. It means almost a 10-year studio inactivity. Have they been playing gigs in the US?. I thought they might have disbanded. Besides that, I think Lurie's last work was the soundtrack for "Animal Factory". I didn't enjoy it that much. Any word on Lurie's upcoming releases? Thanks. Efrén _______________________________________________________________ Nokia Game ha comenzado Haz clic y disfruta de la nueva aventura multimedia de Nokia antes del 3 de noviembre. http://es.promotions.yahoo.com/info/nokiagame.html - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 11:24:48 +0200 From: "Marcin Gokieli" Subject: Odp: Odp: The function of the studio > You may wanna listen again, just on the vibe of hearing how the studio > played a role in the construction of those records. Given my recent phase of MD - fanatism, that may easily happen (although the realse of in a silent way box may put that plan in serious danger ;-) ) - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 05:34:37 -0400 From: Rick Lopez Subject: Re: Masada live at Tonic on 01.10.10 3:37 AM, patRice at iqhouse@yahoo.de wrote: > the Masada line-up with Marc Ribot! Anyone out there have any info on the (single?) Masada performance w/ Susie Ibarra??? Heard it happened, but no details... and sadly no tape. Thanks, RL - ---------- [ All of the below and much more at: http://www.velocity.net/~bb10k ] Sessionographies : CRISPELL; IBARRA; Wm. PARKER; RIVERS; SHIPP; D.S. WARE. Discographies : COURVOISIER; ENEIDI; MANERI; MORRIS; SPEARMAN; THREADGILL; WORKMAN. Also : --Samuel Beckett Eulogy; Baseball & the 10,000 Things; Time Stops; LOVETORN; HARD BOIL; ETC., WHERE THE HELL HAVE I BEEN??? : LUCILLE / A Reverential Journal of the Care of the Beloved Hag - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 08:46:13 -0400 From: "Neil H. Enet" Subject: Fetish 69 (NZC) Hello list, Has anyone listened to the FETISH 69 album DYSFUNCTIONS AND DRONES? I found this on the AllMusicGuide website: "Techno fans who like their music more disturbing than what Photek or Fatboy Slim have to offer should check it out". Any commentaries? Thanks Neil H. Enet - ------------ NP. THE SMITHS - Meat is Murder - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 14:05:03 +0000 From: "Ricardo Jorge" Subject: Re: Where's Lurie? They played in Portugal (Europe) ãbout 3 months ago... > >Hi, > >I've wondering what the Lizards have been doing >lately. >Their last album I know of is "Queen of all Ears", >which, as far as I know, was recorded around 1993 >although published much later. It means almost a >10-year studio inactivity. Have they been playing gigs >in the US?. I thought they might have disbanded. > >Besides that, I think Lurie's last work was the >soundtrack for "Animal Factory". I didn't enjoy it >that much. Any word on Lurie's upcoming releases? > >Thanks. > >Efrén > >_______________________________________________________________ >Nokia Game ha comenzado >Haz clic y disfruta de la nueva aventura multimedia de Nokia >antes del 3 de noviembre. >http://es.promotions.yahoo.com/info/nokiagame.html > >- > _________________________________________________________________ Chegou o novo MSN Explorer. Instale já. É gratuito! http://explorer.msn.com.br - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 18:38:25 +0200 From: "Franz Fuchs" Subject: RE: Fetish 69 (NZC) > On Behalf Of Neil H. Enet > > Has anyone listened to the FETISH 69 album DYSFUNCTIONS > AND DRONES? I found > this on the AllMusicGuide website: "Techno fans who like > their music more > disturbing than what Photek or Fatboy Slim have to offer > should check it > out". > > Any commentaries? Austrian label/distributor Trost http://www.trost.at offers information under "Bands", a MP3 (under "Trost") of the Fetish 69/Spectre collaboration and a link to another review (http://www.monochrom.at/cracked/reviews/Rev%20Fetish69.htm). Regards Franz Fuchs - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 18:42:28 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?efr=E9n=20del=20valle?= Subject: Fwd: Re: Where's Lurie? > > They played in Portugal (Europe) ãbout 3 months > ago... Shit! Really near home!! do you remember the line-up? Thanks Efrén _______________________________________________________________ Nokia Game ha comenzado Haz clic y disfruta de la nueva aventura multimedia de Nokia antes del 3 de noviembre. http://es.promotions.yahoo.com/info/nokiagame.html - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 12:06:57 -0500 From: Herb Levy Subject: Re: OT: Eyvind Kang and Michael Bisio - MBEK[tm] (Meniscus) >Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 12:24:53 +0930 >From: "Case" >Subject: OT: Eyvind Kang and Michael Bisio - MBEK[tm] (Meniscus) > >Has anyone got this album, is it likely that a lover of Kangs other recent >works would like it? > >Case It's mostly modal free jazz kinds of things, some more energetic and out than others. It's good but it doesn't have the kind of stylistic variety of most of the ensemble releases under Kang's own name. In a similar but prettier and more restrained vein, folks may be interested in a CD Eyvind recorded with Amir Koushkani, an Iranian tar player living in Vancouver. The disc is called In the Path of Love and contains four lengthy pieces in Iranian and Indian styles. I picked it up at Wall of Sound in Seattle when I was there in August. There's no address or other contact information on the disc, but perhaps Tony Reif, who produced an earlier disc by Koushkani, may know how to get it. And Kang completists will be interested in a compilation I'd forgotten all about produced by the Wing Luke Museum in Seattle called a Bridge Home. This was part of the documentation for an exhibition focusing on music in the lives of Pacific Asian Americans and there's a roughly five minute track by Eyvind on it, a medley called Summons/Lisa. Summons is a tune, Lisa is a multi-tracked noise fest. Bests, Herb - -- Herb Levy Mappings on Antenna Internet Radio mappings@antennaradio.com Mappings P O Box 9369 Forth Wort, TX 76147 - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 13:42:58 -0400 From: pequet@altern.org (Benjamin Pequet) Subject: Re: OT: Eyvind Kang and Michael Bisio - MBEK[tm] (Meniscus) >player living in Vancouver. The disc is called In the Path of Love and >contains four lengthy pieces in Iranian and Indian styles. I picked it up >at Wall of Sound in Seattle when I was there in August. There's no address >or other contact information on the disc, but perhaps Tony Reif, who >produced an earlier disc by Koushkani, may know how to get it. It is available from http://www.mahour.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 20:46:20 +0200 From: Rob Allaert Subject: Patrice & Masada - --Apple-Mail-2-810060172 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed >> patRice frequently voices that he wishes (Masada) would stop playing >> together so that zorn could get on with other projects. > > Sorry, but you mistook me for someone else! > Never did I say such a thing. Oh yes you did ! - --Apple-Mail-2-810060172 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII patRice frequently voices that he wishes (Masada) would stop playing together so that zorn could get on with other projects. Sorry, but you mistook me for someone else! Never did I say such a thing. Oh yes you did ! - --Apple-Mail-2-810060172-- - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 13:00:51 -0700 From: William Crump Subject: Re: Patrice & Masada As entertaining as this exchange has been, I don't see anyone straightening Rob out, so... Patrice Roussel and patRice are two different people, both Zornlisters, but different people nonetheless. Patrice Roussel is the one who said that he didn't care for Masada, not patRice. William "Buttinsky" Crump Rob Allaert wrote: > patRice frequently voices that he wishes (Masada) would stop playing together so that zorn could get on with other projects. > > Sorry, but you mistook me for someone else! > Never did I say such a thing. > > Oh yes you did ! - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 00:32:20 EDT From: Acousticlv@aol.com Subject: for detroit zorn-listers Dear Detroit Pals, A friend and music colleague, Robert Reigle, tenor saxophone, who edited the the Resonance ethnomusiciology issue with Evan Parker, will be attending the SEM (Soc. for Ethnomusicology) Conference. Oct 24-28. If anyone is able to can recommend inexpensive, safe lodgings near the Westin Hotel, Southfield, Detroit, or host him for a day or two, or please write him or me offlist. Thanks, Steve Koenig (NY) 718 332 6517 AcousticLv@aol.com Robert Reigle (LA) 714 953 0905 reigle@usa.net - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 00:50:13 EDT From: Eriedell@aol.com Subject: Re: Patrice & Masada In a message dated 10/10/01 3:02:51 PM, william@steno.com writes: << Patrice Roussel and patRice are two different people, both Zornlisters, but different people nonetheless. Patrice Roussel is the one who said that he didn't care for Masada, not patRice. >> shows how perceptive i am. I've been reading this list for over a year now and didn't know that. So, which one has the improv group that uses charles ives tunes as rep? eriedell - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 09:39:18 +0200 From: "Viguier Benoit" Subject: Re: Re: Where's Lurie? Some news about John Lurie : - - Plays in Mauro Refosco's "Seven Waves" - - Recorded "African Swim & Manny and LO" (1999) - - Recorded "LEGENDARY MARVIN PONTIAC" (2000) - - Acting in "OZ" playing "Penders" in episode: "Famous Last Words" (2001° - - Broke his ankle in May 2001 Amitiés Benoît - -----Message d'origine----- De : efrén del valle À : zorn-list@lists.xmission.com Cc : ricardoviseu@hotmail.com Date : mercredi 10 octobre 2001 18:42 Objet : Fwd: Re: Where's Lurie? > >> >> They played in Portugal (Europe) ãbout 3 months >> ago... > >Shit! Really near home!! > >do you remember the line-up? > >Thanks >Efrén > >_______________________________________________________________ >Nokia Game ha comenzado >Haz clic y disfruta de la nueva aventura multimedia de Nokia >antes del 3 de noviembre. >http://es.promotions.yahoo.com/info/nokiagame.html > >- > - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 13:01:52 +0200 (MET DST) From: stephen.fruitman@idehist.umu.se (Stephen Fruitman) Subject: Where is Jazzland? Anybody out there have an e-mail address to the Norwegian label Jazzland (www.jazzlandrec.com)? Thanks in advance, Stephen Stephen Fruitman Dept of Historical Studies Ume=E5 University SE-901 87 Ume=E5 Sweden - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 10:30:08 -0400 From: "Bruno Bissonnette" Subject: LaMonte Young DVD Hello, A couple months ago someone mentionned that the Well-Tuned Piano would be released on DVD... from Lamonte's website it's clear the preview advance copies are available (to finance the booklet and packaging), but when will the actual release be? And will the price be as ridiculously expensive as the preview copy's? ($147!) Thanks for any info, Bruno Bissonnette _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 16:43:02 +0200 From: "Marius Ergo" Subject: Re: Where is Jazzland? Try this: sten.jazzland@c2i.net I tried finding it forever as well, but I think I got this one through their mailing list. Marius >From: stephen.fruitman@idehist.umu.se (Stephen Fruitman) >To: zorn-list@lists.xmission.com >Subject: Where is Jazzland? >Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 13:01:52 +0200 (MET DST) > >Anybody out there have an e-mail address to the Norwegian label Jazzland >(www.jazzlandrec.com)? Thanks in advance, Stephen > >Stephen Fruitman >Dept of Historical Studies >Umeå University >SE-901 87 Umeå Sweden > > > >- > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 17:23:52 +0200 From: "Andreas Dietz" Subject: Mengelberg Hi, there´s an interview with Misha Mengelberg done by John Corbett some years ago. MM is speaking about attending Ellington in 1947 or 48, hating Free Jazz and learning from his cat - a little bit dated but still interesting. One quote about Monk: 'We were sitting somewhere and I asked him some question, and he put that same question to my wife. My wife says something like: "Huh, why do you ask that to me?" And he bent over to me and said what my wife said. That was obviously one of his games, funny conversation. Went on for 20 minutes.' The interview can be found at www.hathut.com/mengelberg.html Andreas _________________________________________________________________ Downloaden Sie MSN Explorer kostenlos unter http://explorer.msn.de/intl.asp - - ------------------------------ End of Zorn List Digest V3 #591 ******************************* To unsubscribe from zorn-list-digest, send an email to "majordomo@lists.xmission.com" with "unsubscribe zorn-list-digest" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. 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