From: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (Zorn List Digest) To: zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: Zorn List Digest V3 #685 Reply-To: zorn-list Sender: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Zorn List Digest Friday, January 18 2002 Volume 03 : Number 685 In this issue: - Re: IBARRA quartet personnel Re: Hartley; Ibarra quartet Odp: new purchases and thoughts: Re: Ibarra/Crispell aki takase Re: Ibarra/Crispell RE: Ibarra/Crispell; Crispell recommendations? vibes Re: aki takase Re: vibes RE: Yearbook Volume 2 Fred Frith Clearing.... Re: Fred Frith Clearing.... Massacre - Meltdown North Indian classical recommendations Re: hockey & Rodriquez Re: vibes (Karl Berger and the Creative Music Studio) Non-JZ FS/FA: Takemura, Aube 7"s, K.K. Null etc. Re: vibes (Karl Berger and the Creative Music Studio) Threadgill Re: Threadgill [none] Fwd: Threadgill ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 14:34:52 -0800 From: drool puddle kittens Subject: Re: IBARRA quartet personnel trevor dunn, sylvie courvoisier, greg tardy, and ibarra - --GC (also that same march weekend--three nights of john schott at TUVA space in berkeley, with ben goldberg, scott amendola, and others) > I know who Crispell is > playing with (Motian! Peacock!), but who else is in the Ibarra Quartet? > > Later, > Ben >>> > I will definitely be going to that show as weIl as others on the list I'm > sure. This was news to me, so I looked it up. March 21, Yerba Buena > Theater, part of SF Jazz Fest's spring season. I couldn't find a lineup for > Ibarra anywhere, not even at her website. > - - - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 17:55:34 -0500 From: James Hale Subject: Re: Hartley; Ibarra quartet This is part of SFJazz's Spring Season, curated by Joshua Redman. The opening theme is Women In Jazz, which also features Maria Schneider Orch with Ingrid Jensen, Cassandra Wilson and Jane Bunnett, as well as a panel discussion on jazz and sexism chaired by Angela Davis, and a night of rare films on women jazz musicians. All this is probably on the SFJazz site. James Hale Rick Lopez wrote: > on 02.01.17 11:16 AM, Benito Vergara at bvergara@sfsu.edu wrote: > > > Marilyn Crispell Trio / Susie > > Ibarra Quartet concert in March in San Francisco? > > Oh my gawd. Is this a tandem tour or just you got extremely lucky ??? > > I'd really like to know, > > RL - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 00:55:30 +0100 From: "Marcin Gokieli" Subject: Odp: new purchases and thoughts: - ----- Original Message ----- From: ahorton > Filmworks VII- "Cynical Hysterie Hour"- Zorn doing cartoon music; this was > actually much better than I expected. I love the "toy bossa" music, and the > "toy punk" numbers. Very fun...reminds me of Mr. Bungle. One of the first cds I bought. I was a little bit angry first because it's so short, and i did not quite get it for some time. But it grew on me - I consider it as one of the most interesting Zorn's efforts. An early version of those tunes is featured on FW III, if memory serves. Marcin - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 15:54:28 -0800 From: "D Dvb" Subject: Re: Ibarra/Crispell I feel it is my patriotic duty to go to this Crispell/Ibarra twin bill show. The economy is down and damn it, my country needs me to spend dollars. Are tickets on sale yet? Also, Mats Gustaffson at Mills College on March 14th too! And one last thing...isn't Sonny Rollins still alive? Oh well, I wasn't too impressed with Mr. Ware last time he played Oakland. I know that the majority of this list is NYC-based so these posts are boring for you guys but we have to hear about your shows and we are STARVED for shows out here... - --davy, who wonders if Nicholas Cage and John Woo are now lovers and what does Chow Yun-Fat think about all that anyway? ><< On an unrelated note, is anyone going to the Marilyn Crispell Trio / >Susie > Ibarra Quartet concert in March in San Francisco? I know who Crispell is > playing with (Motian! Peacock!), but who else is in the Ibarra Quartet? > > Later, > Ben > >> > I will definitely be going to that show as weIl as others on the list >I'm >sure. This was news to me, so I looked it up. March 21, Yerba Buena >Theater, part of SF Jazz Fest's spring season. I couldn't find a lineup >for >Ibarra anywhere, not even at her website. I see David S. Ware 4tet is doing >a >show also, supposedly based on Sonny Rollins influences. Sometimes I go to >shows with fellow zornlisters Will and Davy. Cheers, > John _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 18:56:20 EST From: Acousticlv@aol.com Subject: aki takase << From: James Hale The other name I've heard is Aki Takase. Not to be missed if her last concerts in Canada were any indication. >> I love Aki Takase's enja discs, but her new Leo disc Le Cahier du Bal is just stunning. The enjas i recommend incl. 'clapping music' w sunny murray and reggie workman, and one with string quartet, Steve Koenig n.p.; denman maroney- fluxations- (superb! -w rothenberg ballou dresser norton) n.r.: my students' book reports.. dios mio!@ - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 19:54:38 -0500 From: Rick Lopez Subject: Re: Ibarra/Crispell on 02.01.17 6:54 PM, D Dvb at d_dvb@hotmail.com wrote: > wasn't too impressed with Mr. Ware last time he played Oakland. When was this? Anyone who has an opinion of the new DSW 4tet and new Shipp discs? Wondering, afraid to speak, lest I alienate... Thanks ahead of time, RL - ---------- *** Many THINGS 4 SALE *** [Updated: 01.12.01] http://www.velocity.net/~bb10k/ChipsInCashing.html - ---------- [ All of the below and much more at: http://www.velocity.net/~bb10k ] Sessionographies : CRISPELL; IBARRA; Wm. PARKER; RIVERS; SHIPP; D.S. WARE. Discographies : COURVOISIER; ENEIDI; MANERI; MORRIS; SPEARMAN; THREADGILL; WORKMAN. Samuel Beckett Eulogy; Baseball & the 10,000 Things; Time Stops; LOVETORN; HARD BOIL; LUCILLE, a Reverential Journal of the Care of the Beloved Hag-- ETC., - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 17:03:51 -0800 From: "Benito Vergara" Subject: RE: Ibarra/Crispell; Crispell recommendations? > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-zorn-list@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-zorn-list@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of D Dvb > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 3:54 PM > I feel it is my patriotic duty to go to this Crispell/Ibarra twin > bill show. > The economy is down and damn it, my country needs me to spend dollars. > Are tickets on sale yet? If you're an SFJazz member, yes. But for a non-member like me, tickets go on sale this Sunday. The Cassandra Wilson concert should be great too, but the last time I saw her at the Masonic the sound was pretty bad. And thanks to GC (and all the others) for the info. And on a related note, any Crispell recommendations for a newbie? (I'm leaning towards "Santuerio," if only for Mark Feldman's presence on it, but "Hyperion" sounds damn good too.) Anyone? Rick? Thanks in advance, Ben np: gillian welch, "hell among the yearlings" http://members.tripod.com/~tamad2/ ICQ/AIM: thewilyfilipino - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 20:05:50 EST From: Acousticlv@aol.com Subject: vibes << mention any free/avant/new thing records that feature good vibes? >> yes, definitely anything by karl berger is fine. dont over look the great khan jamal, whose release have been few but solid. and the perennial gunter hampel, most discs great, and his older vinyl specially wonderful and still available. try his amazing LP with jeanne lee "that came down on me." his website is www.gunterhampelmusic.de and he's in nyc for a few months if you want to buy direct from him. not all his newest discs are great though some are and i forget which.. arggh. for my taste, avoid bill ware's dull knit cds tho he can be fine in concert. also, percussionist warren smith has some fierce vibe playing on many discs. Steve Koenig n.p.: kangaroo note 'soundness" public eyesore #25 wonderful free sax blowing with electronics and skronk - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 22:14:12 -0500 From: James Hale Subject: Re: aki takase Acousticlv@aol.com wrote: > I love Aki Takase's enja discs, > but her new Leo disc Le Cahier du Bal is just stunning. Got it right here on my desk, but haven't listened to it yet. It just jumped to the top of the pile. James Hale - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 21:00:50 -0800 From: Skip Heller Subject: Re: vibes is it me, or has walt dickerson escaped mention? his PATCH OF BLUE has a lot going for it, incl Sun Ra in a rare turn as sideman. skip h - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 01:32:27 -0500 From: "Steve Smith" Subject: RE: Yearbook Volume 2 No. It's a 5:50 excerpt from a live performance of Zorn's 'Xu Feng,' recorded live at the Great American Music Hall in September 1991. It's performed by Myles Boisen (Splatter Trio guitarist/bassist), Gannon Hall (drums), Bob Ostertag (sampler), David Slusser (electronics), Trey Spruance (guitar) and William Winant (percussion). Zorn was the prompter. Sounds like the makings of a fine performance, but at just under six minutes, it's a tease. And of course, there's now an artist-approved "definitive" version of 'Xu Feng' on Tzadik... Steve Smith ssmith36@sprynet.com - -----Original Message----- From: owner-zorn-list@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-zorn-list@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Poisonhead@aol.com Another question for the list. The various artist compilation on rastacan records "Yearbook Vol.2" contains a piece by John Zorn Ensemble. Has this piece been released before on something else? - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 10:39:16 +0100 From: Alban Jacques Subject: Fred Frith Clearing.... Hi, I m new in this list.... I come from France and the album that was the best for me last year was Fred Frith Clearing.... Somebody knows if he will do some solo shows in Europe or more precisely in France ??? Alban - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 11:15:33 +0100 From: Tim Blechmann Subject: Re: Fred Frith Clearing.... > Hi, I m new in this list.... I come from France and the album that > was the best for me last year was Fred Frith Clearing.... Somebody > knows if he will do some solo shows in Europe or more precisely in > France ??? > Alban fred frith will do a solo gig in esslingen, germany, in june. you can find his performance schedule at www.fredfrith.com, but it is not very up to date... Tim mailto:TimBlechmann@gmx.net ICQ: 96771783 http://nav.to/timblech - -- The only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn, like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars and in the middle you see the blue centerlight pop and everybody goes "Awww!" Jack Kerouac - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 03:56:27 -0800 (PST) From: Theo Klaase Subject: Massacre - Meltdown Massacre's Meltdown is indeed one of the best releases this year. The energy of performing with no material is electrifying. Fred Frith is more like an alchemist that a guitarist. He just brews sounds like no other. Laswell and Haward are amazing too. More Live albums by Massacre - let's start a petition. ..and if you really like this album, try listening to Jim Black's "Alas No Axis." ....waiting for the Live Naked City... - -Theo __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 12:16:24 +0000 From: Ian Fenton Subject: North Indian classical recommendations Hello there Can anyone recommend any North Indian classical releases for me? I have been listening to a copy of Pandit Pran Nath's 'Ragas of Morning and Night' for a few days now (and little else besides) but given the fact that other music by this great singer is hard to come by, I don't know where to try next. Can anyone on the list help? Ian Fenton - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 06:23:58 -0600 From: Herb Levy Subject: Re: hockey & Rodriquez "Kurt Gottschalk" wrote: >yeah, hockey, pool, archery and lacrosse constitute the 'parachute years' >box set, but my guess is the hockey cd that's forthcoming is a new >recording. in the notes to 'xu feng' zorn talks about doing a series of >definitive recordings of game pieces. the new 'cobra', no doubt, is also a >part of that effort. All true, except that the first sentence of the description of the disc at the Tzadik site is "Original recordings from 1980." Has anyone heard the Roberto Juan Rodriguez disc on Tzadik yet? I haven't heard a lot of the neo-klezmer discs in the Radical Jewish Culture series that made much of an impact on me, but some of the non-klezmer stuff has been among my favorites from the label. - -- Herb Levy P O Box 9369 Forth Wort, Texas 76147 USA 817 377-2983 herb@eskimo.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 08:45:34 -0500 From: Bob Sweet Subject: Re: vibes (Karl Berger and the Creative Music Studio) > yes, definitely anything by karl berger is fine. So glad to see Karl Berger's name mentioned on the list. It gives me an opportunity for a shameless plug. Karl was (and is) the director of the Creative Music Studio (CMS) in Woodstock, New York. CMS was (and is trying to be again) the world's leading study center for creative, improvisational, and world music. It was a community that was made up of, at one time or another, the most amazing lineup of the world's masters that you could hope to dream up: Don Cherry, Nana Vasconcelos, Abdullah Ibrahim, Dave Holland, Ed Blackwell, Trilok Gurtu, Carla Bley, Cyro Baptista, Marilyn Crispell, Cecil Taylor, Anthony Braxton, Jack DeJohnette, Collin Walcott--I'm just getting warmed up here, folks, the list goes on and on. Even John Zorn spent time at CMS. Read the book: Music Universe, Music Mind, Revisiting the Creative Music Studio, Woodstock, New York (go to http://www.arborville.com). Bob Sweet - - ------------------------------ Date: From: pm.carey@utoronto.ca (Patrick Carey) Subject: Non-JZ FS/FA: Takemura, Aube 7"s, K.K. Null etc. Clearing out some items Zorn listees may be interested in: ** PRICES ARE US$ POSTAGE PAID ** in North America (more for overseas) If you don't like a price, make me an OFFER. OFFERS -- Aube/Altai Chamber Orchestra - "N/E|Sound (remix)" AUS 7" (Syntactic: taube42) 1997 [Orange vinyl. Aube sound source: "Sound" by the Altai Chamber Orchestra. Side B is a remix of "Sound" by Aube with additional vocals by Katharina Svejkovsky. Limited & numbered (#37/100). Mint. Deleted.] OFFERS -- Aube/Noaidi - "Empa" FIN 7" (Freak Animal: 008) 1997 [Aube sound source: female voice (Mutsumi Oku). Limited to 200 in full-color blue ink sleeve. Mint. Deleted.] OFFERS -- Aube/Source Direkt - "Sight Forward Aberration/EGKZ" GER 7" (SD-Image: v01) 1997 [Aube sound source: metal. Comes in full-color silver & black sleeve. First 100 copies given away at Aube/Source Direkt show in Plauen, Germany (June 14, 1997). Limited & numbered (#278/300). Mint. Deleted.] $16 -- Le Syndicat - "Ignitur" HOL LP (Staalplaat: sp003) 1992 [Intense neoclassical, percussive, loop-based musique brut from 1988-1989. Limited & numbered (435/1000). Mint. Deleted.] $25 -- K.K. Null - "Invisible Fire/Mad Water" AUS 7" (Syntactic: zero41) 2000 [Blue vinyl. Ltd. & numbered (#91/100). Deleted.] $ 9 -- Nobukazu Takemura - "Scope" US CD (Thrill Jockey) 1999 [Material from 1996 - 1998. Melodic drones, hypnotic homages to Oval and Reich, off-kilter glitchscapes. Feat. Aki Tsuyuko.] Thanks for looking. - -Patrick pm.carey@utoronto.ca - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 15:24:18 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Vuilleumier=2C_St=E9phane=22?= Subject: Re: vibes (Karl Berger and the Creative Music Studio) >-----Original Message----- >From: Bob Sweet [mailto:bsweet@umich.edu]=20 >Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 2:46 PM >Subject: Re: vibes (Karl Berger and the Creative Music Studio) > >> yes, definitely anything by karl berger is fine. > >So glad to see Karl Berger's name mentioned on the list. It=20 >gives me an opportunity for a shameless plug. > >most amazing lineup of the world's masters-][SNIP]-I'm just getting=20 >warmed up here, folks, the list goes on and on. Even John Zorn spent time at CMS. and Tom Cora! (not listed on the website). Any detailed info on that period would be appreciated! Does your book have pictures/a discography/sessionography/ tourography? St=E9phane >Read the book: Music Universe, Music Mind, Revisiting the=20 >Creative Music Studio, Woodstock, New York (go to http://www.arborville.com). - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 09:40:29 -0500 From: "&c." Subject: Threadgill I recently purchased Henry Threadgill Very, Very Circus's "Spirit of Nuff Nuff." It sounded intriguing and came highly recommended by a friend I was with. I'm not so sure about it right now. I've listened to it several times now and only enjoy parts of it. What are some other feelings on this album? Zach - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 02:23:04 +1100 From: "Julian" Subject: Re: Threadgill > I recently purchased Henry Threadgill Very, Very Circus's "Spirit of > Nuff Nuff." It sounded intriguing and came highly recommended by a > friend I was with. I'm not so sure about it right now. I've listened > to it several times now and only enjoy parts of it. What are some other > feelings on this album? Haven't got that particular album, but I have a few other Threadgill/Very Very Circus albums and find that I'll love one track and then be scratching my head about another. But he's got a style all his own, and I think in the end that's what really draws me to his stuff... - - ------------------------------ Date: From: Subject: [none] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 17:42:05 +0100 (CET) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Efr=E9n=20del=20Valle?= Subject: Fwd: Threadgill Hi, I recently got Very, "Spirit", "Too Much sugar for a Dime" and "Makin' a Move". I listened to them once and they weren't played again. I don't really understand why so much appraisal and what's so special about Laswell's productions for Henry Threadgill. Definitely not my cup of tea. I didn't even get to scratch my head at anything. Just an opinion. Best, Efrén > > I recently purchased Henry Threadgill Very, Very > Circus's "Spirit of > Nuff Nuff." It sounded intriguing and came highly > recommended by a > friend I was with. I'm not so sure about it right > now. I've listened > to it several times now and only enjoy parts of it. > What are some other > feelings on this album? > > Zach > > - > _______________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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