From: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (Zorn List Digest) To: zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: Zorn List Digest V3 #772 Reply-To: zorn-list Sender: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Zorn List Digest Sunday, February 10 2002 Volume 03 : Number 772 In this issue: - Re: take the coltrane Re: Bjork ranting+raving, Plus: Peabody degree losers/ BRITNEY/ JAZZIZ Re: sex music... well, sorta Re: Coltrane/Dolphy Re: nordine? NZ: Carter Scholz's RADIANCE Re: Coltrane/Dolphy Re: Carter Scholz's RADIANCE Re:Jack Johnson box-set/the riff Re: Sex Music (Most of you don't know how to fuck!) Re: Sex Music (Most of you don't know how to fuck!) Shorter box set Re: Sex music recoms Re: sex muzik. Re: Sex music recoms Re: Zorn as Miles???????? and SEX!! Re: Sex Music (JZ?) RE: Sex Music (JZ?) Coltrane on TV Re: Sex music recoms morricone/pasolini Sex music Sex music Re: Coltrane on TV Re: Sex music bailey and thurston moore: thirteen ghosts Re: Sex Music (Most of you don't know how to fuck!) RE: sex muzik. RE: bailey and thurston moore: thirteen ghosts Re: sex muzik. Re: take the coltrane ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 11:50:48 -0600 From: "Samuel Quentin" Subject: Re: take the coltrane indeed zeppelin's greatest asset was Page. imho, Jimmy Page's best work (that i've encountered so far) is with Roy Harper. i'm not really usually into singer/songwriter types, but Roy Harper blows my mind. you say they inspired some mediocre stuff. they inspired some stuff that i think is great: Black Sabbath, Judas Priest, and Iron Maiden. -samuel I always felt Led Zeppelin had a great producer and guitar player in Jimmy Page. But live? No. There are some really weird jammy bootlegs from 1969, but usually they waded in the dark through their own material on stage. - - "Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world, The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity. And what rough beast, its hour come round at last, Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?" -William Butler Yeats Q: Who is it who is walking towards me? A: All things return into One; where does this last return? Q: Who is it who is walking towards me? A: Even when one affirms that there is something here, one omits the whole. _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 11:54:36 -0600 From: Matthew Ross Davis Subject: Re: Bjork ranting+raving, Plus: Peabody degree losers/ BRITNEY/ JAZZIZ Fred Heller(velaires@earthlink.net)@Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 09:50:36PM -0800: > something to the effect of "If people heard her do that on one of her > records, she might not be as popular, but she'd get a whole other kind of > respect." And he's probably right, just as we will probably never find out. This seems to be a recurring theme in a LOT of entertainers and performers of borderline-popular music. m - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 11:57:09 -0600 From: Matthew Ross Davis Subject: Re: sex music... well, sorta It's not necessarily 'sex music', per se, but my wife and I had our first dance in our wedding to Bill Frisell's rendition of Have a Little Faith in Me. m - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 18:58:06 +0000 From: "thomas chatterton" Subject: Re: Coltrane/Dolphy >From: Rick Lopez > I'm a drummer, so why am I not slain by Elvin, but I am most >definitely not slain by Elvin... Wow! L _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 13:54:39 -0500 From: "Andrew" Subject: Re: nordine? > Gee, ya wanna insult anyone else I've recorded with? > Hee hee.......I knew that Skip would start throwing his cred around as soon as Nordine came up. I'm not going to spare anyone just because someone worked with them.....I think Nordine's whole schtick is pure kitsch, and I hate kitsch (now schmaltz, I can deal with.....). Or rather.....I hate Nordine within the current cultural context, i.e., it's "cool" to like "funny" and "kitschy" stuff like "Colors." andrew - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 11:07:44 -0800 From: "s~Z" Subject: NZ: Carter Scholz's RADIANCE From the Gaddis-list: "Members of this list might be interested in the new(first?) novel by Carter Scholz, RADIANCE, just published by Picador USA. It's very much in the vein of Gaddis/DeLillo/Pynchon/McElroy/Powers. The dialogue is especially Gaddisian, even to using the European dash instead of quotes, and the science/technology content (mostly nuclear weaponry R&D) recalls the others. A wide range of references too, from da Vinci's notebooks to the Sumerian myth of Ishtar's descent to the netherworld to the Butthole Surfers. (Now that's what I call variety.) I've read only 50 pages so far, but I'm very impressed and I'm guessing many of you will like it too. (And like Gaddis's novels, there's no photo of the author.)" - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 19:09:36 +0000 From: "thomas chatterton" Subject: Re: Coltrane/Dolphy >From: Rick Lopez I think it may be the group sound I'm not enthralled >by, and I'm a drummer, so why am I not slain by Elvin, but I am most >definitely not slain by Elvin, and so, there I am. Nowhere. Wow! Like Joey Baron, it's just pure joy to watch and hear Elvin Jones play, he swings so hard yet so effortlessly! Can't imagine what it would have been like with Trane. We're always joking that every aspiring drummer should be made to see Elvin play live. Don't forget that he opted out when Trane started to get OUT and brought Rashied Ali into the group, now he was the template for 'free' drumming (q.v. Interstellar Space). np: The Nice The Swedish Radio Sessions _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 11:23:58 -0800 From: "s~Z" Subject: Re: Carter Scholz's RADIANCE Speaking of Monk: http://www.laweekly.com/ink/02/12/cover-wolf.shtml - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 20:36:43 +0100 From: duncan youngerman Subject: Re:Jack Johnson box-set/the riff I meant who composed it=2E If it is McLaughlin, he really is brilliant, or a= t least around that time (ca=2E classic Mahavishnu) really was brilliant as a composer=2E James Brown could have done a great song with that riff, in the line of "I'm black and I'm proud" (my favorite J=2EB=2E tune, and I'm not black)=2E Miles ought to have credited John, but maybe he had a problem with the fact the blackest thing on the album (in homage to the first black sports star) w= as coming from a white dude=2E Or maybe he "commissioned" John a funk riff "=E0 la J=2EB"=2E And therefore considered it his=2E (?) DY=2E James Hale a =E9crit : > It's McLaughlin=2E > Sonny Sharrock can be heard adding wah-wah and feedback=2E > There is already a bootleg circulating of Jack Johnson out-takes that make= s > it clear who's doing what=2E > > James Hale > > duncan youngerman wrote: > > > Hopefully the liner notes will tell us where/whom this great guitar riff > > comes from=2E > > DY=2E > - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 12:00:46 -0800 From: "John Schuller" Subject: Re: Sex Music (Most of you don't know how to fuck!) Damn, what the hell kind of sex are some of you having? Filmworks???? Isaac Hayes is good music to do it by. Miles Davis "On the Corner". Prince. SHit like that. Not fucking Filmworks..... _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 15:08:38 EST From: IOUaLive1@aol.com Subject: Re: Sex Music (Most of you don't know how to fuck!) - --part1_147.94b9997.29982d46_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/10/2002 3:01:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, superbadassmofo@hotmail.com writes: > Damn, what the hell kind of sex are some of you having? Filmworks???? > > Isaac Hayes is good music to do it by. Miles Davis "On the Corner". Prince. > > SHit like that. Not fucking Filmworks..... Theres some real freaks on this list ! - --part1_147.94b9997.29982d46_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/10/2002 3:01:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, superbadassmofo@hotmail.com writes:


Damn, what the hell kind of sex are some of you having? Filmworks????

Isaac Hayes is good music to do it by. Miles Davis "On the Corner". Prince.
SHit like that. Not fucking Filmworks.....


Theres some real freaks on this list ! - --part1_147.94b9997.29982d46_boundary-- - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 15:09:44 EST From: IOUaLive1@aol.com Subject: Shorter box set Does anybody know anything about an upcoming Wayne Shorter box set ? There really should be one ....... Jody - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 15:55:33 EST From: Licenz2Egon@aol.com Subject: Re: Sex music recoms Basically, anything Bill Evans, especially him playing "Turn out the Stars" solo. I also once dated a girl who dug New Adventures in Hi-Fi by REM in that way, but she was kind of strange, and I don't know if it was the music or just her. Anyway, enjoy! (Litterally) Ryan McCormack - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 21:56:45 +0100 From: Ari Subject: Re: sex muzik. > When the wife is in a certain mood... ...Merzbow's Music for Bondage Performance... > ... makes interesting things happen. Sorry, just trying to give it some Zorn-content ;-) Ari - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 16:05:05 -0500 From: "Nirav Soni" Subject: Re: Sex music recoms > The _Merzbox_ falls into this category too...at least, *I'd* be scared of the > woman that threw this on before she slipped out of that teddy. If you can find someone amicable (which is a pretty big "if") japanese noise is wonderful. Gov't Alpha, the Incapacitants, etc. I've heard good things about the new Fennesz in this context as well. Nirav - -- AIM: Icefactory37 "Duration is to the consciousness as light is to the eye" - Bill Viola - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 16:24:58 EST From: Dgasque@aol.com Subject: Re: Zorn as Miles???????? and SEX!! In a message dated 2/10/02 5:45:15 AM Eastern Standard Time, zsteiner@butler.edu writes: Me: << >> Well yeah...but how many _BB_-type women do you come across, outside the ones in films? I've been with one and there are many others out there. I think you have been looking for the wrong type of women. If silly college girls can dig it, so can intelligent woman. (snip) >> I'm down here in the Deep South, and away from the Metro areas. If it isn't Country, Southern-styled Classic Rock, or 70's dance music, you'll be listening to the crickets and tree frogs as accompaniment *long* before finding a woman who'll grind to electric Miles. << By the way, I love Jack Johnson and can't wait until the box set comes out either at the end of this year or beginning of next. Whoohooo!! >> Me too, though I've yet to snag copies of the _SW_ or _BoC_ boxes... - -- np: Picchio dal Pozzo- Camere Zimmer Rooms =dg= - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 16:24:56 EST From: Dgasque@aol.com Subject: Re: Sex Music (JZ?) In a message dated 2/10/02 12:30:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, dekater@worldonline.nl writes: << I'd recommend Rodrigo's "Concierto de Aranjuez" and Ravels "Bolero". Pretty Spanish, uh? >> Spanish/Bolero? Yucky! Give me a good album of firey Flamenco guitar instead. - -- np: Picchio dal Pozzo- Camere Zimmer Rooms =dg= - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 16:37:42 -0500 From: "Zachary Steiner" Subject: RE: Sex Music (JZ?) Radiohead (Kid A and Amnesiac) might be a good compromise between conventional tastes and the weirder, wanna listen to Noise while romancin', crowd. Just a thought, it has that nice techno pulse at times and tender moments for cuddling. Zach - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 16:05:30 -0600 From: Kasra George Ahmadi Subject: Coltrane on TV While subjecting myself to some TV this morning, I came upon a show on Coltrane on the BET Network. I don't know if it was a comprehensive documentary or just one that focused on his studies in music other than Western Music. They showed clips of Ravi Shankar and Alla Rakha playing at the Monterey Pop Festival and Coltrane's later performance at Newport. Does anyone know where I can get the full work? kasra - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 14:08:19 -0800 From: crymad Subject: Re: Sex music recoms Nirav Soni wrote: > If you can find someone amicable (which is a pretty big "if") japanese noise > is wonderful. Yes, it is. My wife melts to Boredoms Super Roots 5. But she's Japanese. I don't think American women have this sort of thing in them. - --crymad - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 00:57:12 +0100 (CET) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Ricardo=20Campillo?= Subject: morricone/pasolini Someone knows if possible get the music of Pasolini's The Trilogy of Live ,some selected and some composed by morricone? thanks in advance. Regards for everybody.Ricardo. n.p.:(a little late)Diamanda Galas "Malediction and prayer) _______________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger Comunicación instantánea gratis con tu gente. http://messenger.yahoo.es - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 16:33:36 -0800 From: Chris Selvig Subject: Sex music C'mon, no one on this list has sex - where would we find the time and energy to argue about pop stars? Chris Selvig - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 16:37:58 -0800 From: Chris Selvig Subject: Sex music Kurt G recommends any/all Loren MazzaCane Connors MellenCougar recordings for getting it on - I recommend the Licht/Mazzacane LP on The Now Sound, where the mastering job is so poor it sounds like someone took a disc sander to each copy. I guarantee it won't seem too short. Chris Selvig - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 20:04:35 -0500 From: James Hale Subject: Re: Coltrane on TV There are three main Coltrane videos. I believe the Newport footage is from The World Of John Coltrane. It's video only and taken from the audience in what looks like Super 8. The sound is overlayed. The footage is only about four or five minutes long. Kasra George Ahmadi wrote: > While subjecting myself to some TV this morning, I came upon a show on > Coltrane on the BET Network. I don't know if it was a comprehensive > documentary or just one that focused on his studies in music other than > Western Music. They showed clips of Ravi Shankar and Alla Rakha playing at > the Monterey Pop Festival and Coltrane's later performance at Newport. Does > anyone know where I can get the full work? > kasra > > - - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 19:43:20 -0600 From: Jon Mooneyham Subject: Re: Sex music Granted, this is a generalization, but in my experience=8A the ladies *love* Chet Baker. Jon M. - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 17:46:19 -0800 From: "carlos torres" Subject: bailey and thurston moore: thirteen ghosts has anyone heard of the project derek bailey and thurston moore put out together, called XIII GHOSTS? if so, how is it? are the albums worth searching out? _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 16:04:41 -0500 From: "Andrew" Subject: Re: Sex Music (Most of you don't know how to fuck!) > Damn, what the hell kind of sex are some of you having? Filmworks???? > Isaac Hayes is good music to do it by. Miles Davis "On the Corner". Prince. > SHit like that. Not fucking Filmworks..... Isaac Hayes? "On the Corner?" Yawn.......i'll be sure to throw those on next time I find myself in a blaxploitation porno.... until then, "In the mirror of Maya Deren" is near-perfect background music for stinkholing. andrew - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 21:09:32 -0500 From: "Steve Smith" Subject: RE: sex muzik. Yeah, but if you use the real thing - Astor's own recording 'Tango: Zero Hour' - you don't even need the wine and candles. Steve Smith ssmith36@sprynet.com - -----Original Message----- From: owner-zorn-list@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-zorn-list@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of UFOrbK8@aol.com gidon kremer - homage a piazzolla. this album, a little red wine, candles, you're gonna get laid. - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 21:27:41 -0500 From: "Steve Smith" Subject: RE: bailey and thurston moore: thirteen ghosts 13 Ghosts is actually a duo: Alex Ward on clarinet and sax, Switch on Hammond B3 and electronics. Their second CD, 'Legend of the Blood Yeti' (on the Infinite Chug label) features Bailey on one half and Moore on the other, as invited guests. (There's another guitarist on the Moore part as well, Andrew Clare.) If you're into Euro-improv of the Incus house style, you won't be disappointed, especially with the Bailey stuff. The other 13 Ghosts disc, 'Giganti Reptilicus Destructo Beam' (on Scatter) does not feature Moore or Bailey but is quite fine anyway. Great design on both as well. Steve Smith ssmith36@sprynet.com - -----Original Message----- From: owner-zorn-list@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-zorn-list@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of carlos torres Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 8:46 PM To: zorn-list@lists.xmission.com Subject: bailey and thurston moore: thirteen ghosts has anyone heard of the project derek bailey and thurston moore put out together, called XIII GHOSTS? if so, how is it? are the albums worth searching out? _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com - - - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 19:23:58 -0800 From: "s~Z" Subject: Re: sex muzik. >>>Yeah, but if you use the real thing - Astor's own recording 'Tango: Zero Hour' - you don't even need the wine and candles.<<< You don't even need a partner. - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 19:37:13 -0800 From: Fred Heller Subject: Re: take the coltrane skip heller > I always felt Led Zeppelin had a great producer and guitar player in Jimmy > Page. I felt they had a great kick drum in Bonham, but nothing else. Plant is a very polite fella, tho. skip h - - ------------------------------ End of Zorn List Digest V3 #772 ******************************* To unsubscribe from zorn-list-digest, send an email to "majordomo@lists.xmission.com" with "unsubscribe zorn-list-digest" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. A non-digest (direct mail) version of this list is also available; to subscribe to that instead, replace all instances of "zorn-list-digest" in the commands above with "zorn-list". Back issues are available for anonymous FTP from ftp.xmission.com, in pub/lists/zorn-list/archive. These are organized by date. Problems? Email the list owner at zorn-list-owner@lists.xmission.com