From: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (Zorn List Digest) To: zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: Zorn List Digest V3 #822 Reply-To: zorn-list Sender: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Zorn List Digest Monday, March 18 2002 Volume 03 : Number 822 In this issue: - Re: calculus rock Eric Qin ethiopiques Japanese Independent Music--book mike patton (low zc). re: Mike Patton RE: Calculus Rock Re: mike patton (low zc). Ben Watson's book about Derek Bailey Teiji Ito Re: Teiji Ito Re: Teiji Ito Ken Vandermark jmt RE: ethiopiques Cuong Vu content RE: Japanese Independent Music--book RE: Aniara (nzc) Melvins - Stag Re: Teiji Ito RE: Cuong Vu content ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 16:45:00 -0800 From: florid oratory Subject: Re: calculus rock one could argue that the nested tuplets of Zappa's most complex music is as close as rock will get to calculus..... G C > From: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (Zorn List Digest) >> Calculus rock never really caught on. Most musicians just couldn't >> do differentials in their heads. > > A drummer friend came up with the idea that what get's called Math > Rock is actually Arithmetic Rock it's all about addition and > subtraction of beats. Calculus Rock would be about beats that speed > up and slow down. - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 01:47:35 From: "Brent Fariss" Subject: Eric Qin I was going through my cd collection the other day and came across the Rough Assemblege cd on Avant. Does anyone remember that one? The liner notes mention a full cd of the music of Eric Qin that was in the works. Does anyone know what has come of the project? Are the any cd's of his music available? thanks. brent _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 03:58:07 +0000 From: "Bill Ashline" Subject: ethiopiques Has anyone been collecting this series from Buda Musique? How are they? Any favorites thus far? And is there a reasonably cheap place to buy them rather than Other Music? Thanks. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 04:06:44 +0000 From: "Bill Ashline" Subject: Japanese Independent Music--book I bought this recently and have been pretty impressed with the discographies of Japanese music. Most of the text is a large dictionary of Japanese music, but there are a few essays at the beginning. The accompanying CD is quite nice as well with music samples from Yuko Nexus 6, Haino Keiji, Hoppy Kamiyama, KK Null, Nakamura & Sachiko M from a live date in Bordeaux, Haco, the Ruins, and an excellent piece by Acid Mothers Temple. The CD is 76 minutes in length and the whole package is put out by Sonore in France for about $33 US. Available at DMG when I ordered about two months ago. Other comments? On a similar note, did anyone pick up the DIW releases of Abe and Takayangi last year, Gradually and Mass Projection? I'd be curious as to opinions of Smith, Waxman, Chamberlain, or the Braxton scholars. I thought these were powerful recordings, not unlike the Brotzmann/Sharrock collaborations. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 02:30:41 EST From: UFOrbK8@aol.com Subject: mike patton (low zc). hey alls ya'lls... i was wondering if someone (or anyone, or everyone) would brief me on the two solo patton releases? i am particularly interested in the just him vocal album, being that i love abject guttural noises. i have a veritable conflict of interest in gathering opinion, since i am obsessive about crazy vocal technique (and mike patton, but that's another story) but am simultaneously dismayed that there is a recent huge feature in a Magazine Which Shall Remain Unnamed about mike patton. lemme know the deal. thanks! love, k8. - --- [.n0thing.is.what.is.sAid.] k a t e p e t e r s o n c o m p o s e r / p e r f o r m e r http://www.geocities.com/uforbk8/kate.html http://www.icefoundation.org (roundtable) - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 02:49:49 EST From: SonataPathetique@aol.com Subject: re: Mike Patton Speaking of Patton's solo album of just him, I saw him do it live at Tonic in October. It was incredible and any attempt for me to put it to words would be a waste. It made the cd sound like a bunch of crap. However, there was a girl videotaping the show. If anyone knows if this video can somehow be obtained, please let me know. I would love to have this show on tape, even if it was just the audio. Also, one funny moment of the evening: Pattons lying on the floor screaming, making sounds and doing what he does. The vein in his neck that looks the Alien is popping out while I turn to the side and see a bum from outside looking into the window of the club with a look of "What the hell is going on in there?" on his face. Maybe you had to be there, but I thought it was funny. Seth - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 06:17:01 -0800 (PST) From: Ronald Hiznay Subject: RE: Calculus Rock >A drummer friend came up with the idea that what >get's called Math >Rock is actually Arithmetic Rock it's all about >adition and >subtraction of beats. Calculus Rock would be about >beats that speed >up and slow down. That would be Differential Calculus Rock, relating to the rates of change of the music, there would then have to be another school of Integral Calculus Rock in which the area under the notes(rather than the notes themselves) would be most important. mushmush __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - live college hoops coverage http://sports.yahoo.com/ - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 23:48:03 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Efr=E9n_del_Valle?= Subject: Re: mike patton (low zc). Hi, I heard "Adult Themes for Voice" and I remember I enjoyed it quite a lot. It was recorded during a tour (with FNM I think) mostly in hotel rooms and probably directly to 4-track- If I recall, the sound quality was not exactly superb. If you are interested in gutural noises, you'll find the whole gamut here. "Pranzo Oltranzista" is quite another thing. I was listening to it yesterday and, well, I'm a Patton-fanatic but there are some things I can't swallow, and Pranzo is one of them. It's mainly sound effects and pretty noisy, but there are some great moments, like the first track, "Elettricità Atmospheriche Candite" and "I Rumori Rugienti", which is the sound of an engine and John Zorn playing really soft on top. Other than that, don't expect too much substance. A guy recommended it to me and told me it was really influenced by Zorn's "Elegy", but I'm still looking for similarities. Best, Efrén del Valle n.p: Bob Dylan: "Highway 61 Revisited" > hey alls ya'lls... > > i was wondering if someone (or anyone, or everyone) would brief me on the two > solo patton releases? i am particularly interested in the just him vocal > album, being that i love abject guttural noises. i have a veritable conflict > of interest in gathering opinion, since i am obsessive about crazy vocal > technique (and mike patton, but that's another story) but am simultaneously > dismayed that there is a recent huge feature in a Magazine Which Shall Remain > Unnamed about mike patton. > > lemme know the deal. > > thanks! > > love, > k8. > > > > --- > [.n0thing.is.what.is.sAid.] > k a t e p e t e r s o n > c o m p o s e r / p e r f o r m e r > > http://www.geocities.com/uforbk8/kate.html > http://www.icefoundation.org (roundtable) > > - _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 21:59:25 +0100 From: "Franz Fuchs" Subject: Ben Watson's book about Derek Bailey A seemingly up-to-date account of this project: http://www.militantesthetix.co.uk/bailey/quartet.htm After the book is published Ben is planning to put full transcripts of his heated and hilarious interviews with Bailey online. Sounds promising... Regards Franz Fuchs JFLT*: CD1/Studio of the Anthony Braxton's "Willisau (Quartet) 1991". Holy dissonance, isn't this great? *Just Finished Listening To - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 00:01:32 +0100 (CET) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Ricardo=20Campillo?= Subject: Teiji Ito Someone knows if Teiji Ito was made a record or if exists a recording of his music? I only heard his music on the films of Maya Deren, but I want more. Thanks in advance. Regards for everyone. _______________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger Comunicación instantánea gratis con tu gente. http://messenger.yahoo.es - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 15:16:40 -0800 From: Jim Flannery Subject: Re: Teiji Ito Ricardo Campillo wrote: > Someone knows if Teiji Ito was made a record or if > exists a recording of his music? The only release I'm familiar with is a CD released by =BFWhat=20 Next?/Nonsequitur in 1997, that included the scores for _Meshes_ and=20 _Very Eye of Night_, along with _Axis Mundi_, a score for a theatre=20 piece from 1982; according to the liner notes, he did a lot of work for=20 the Living Theatre, and did soundtracks for Marie Menken, Willard Maas,=20 Ed Emschwiller, "and others". It'd certainly be nice to see some of those other recordings=20 released; if I'm reading the notes correctly, they're preserved in the=20 archives of the New York Public Library, and Guy Klucevsek seems to have=20 been involved in the logging of the original tapes. - --=20 - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Jim Flannery newgrange@sfo.com "Unexamined assumptions and axioms can be collected the way one might collect stamps." -- James Elkins np: Bardo Pond, _Vol. 3_ nr: Philip K. Dick, _The Dark Haired Girl_ - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 18:33:03 -0500 From: Lang Thompson Subject: Re: Teiji Ito >The only release I'm familiar with is a CD released by =BFWhat=20 >Next?/Nonsequitur in 1997, that included the scores for _Meshes_ and=20 Plus the Tzadik release of King Ubu. LT - ----------------------------- Freedom Is Free Form WFMU http://wfmu.org Fund Drive March 4 to 17 - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 21:41:29 -0300 From: "Hugo Linares" Subject: Ken Vandermark This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C1CDFC.7F8108A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi folks, A friend of mine is "desperately" looking for Ken Vandermark's Funky-Do = when he was a member of "The Crown Royals". Any information where to get it? On-line stores or something? Thanks in advance. Hugo Linares NP: Jean-Michel Pilc Trio _Together live at Sweet Basil - Vol.2_ (A = Records) - ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C1CDFC.7F8108A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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A friend of mine is "desperately" looking for Ken Vandermark's = Funky-Do when he was a member of "The Crown Royals".
 
Any information where to get it? On-line stores or something?
 
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- ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C1CDFC.7F8108A0-- - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 23:39:49 +1100 From: "Julian" Subject: jmt Hey folks, saw a handful of JMT reissues today, just curious whether anyone has or can point me to a schedule of which albums are being reissued and when? - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 08:49:23 -0500 From: "Sean Westergaard" Subject: RE: ethiopiques >Has anyone been collecting this series from Buda Musique? How are they? >Any favorites thus far? And is there a reasonably cheap place to buy them >rather than Other Music? Thanks. I've got the first seven volumes, and I've heard thru vol. 9. not a clinker in the bunch, although I'm at work now and couldn't really name my favorites off hand. as for purchasing, you might try their US distributor, Allegro Music. http://www.allegro-music.com/ you can become a "member" for free, and get stuff at 20% off. I recently picked up what must have been the last copy of the Raga Guide from them. sean - - - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 09:30:28 -0500 From: "patbor" Subject: Cuong Vu content Hello, which are the main differences in sound and composition between Cuong Vu's "come play with me" (which I have listened to) and his latest work "bound"? Thanks PatB - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 11:00:12 -0500 From: "Steve Smith" Subject: RE: Japanese Independent Music--book The comparison to Brotzmann and Sharrock is appropriate, but I hear these as being even more unhinged and dangerous. Abe is damn near uncontainable. The whole thing is so overwhelming and abrasive; I'm glad I've got 'em, but I can't imagine pulling them out that often. Steve Smith ssmith36@sprynet.com - -----Original Message----- From: owner-zorn-list@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-zorn-list@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Bill Ashline Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 11:07 PM On a similar note, did anyone pick up the DIW releases of Abe and Takayangi last year, Gradually and Mass Projection? I'd be curious as to opinions of Smith, Waxman, Chamberlain, or the Braxton scholars. I thought these were powerful recordings, not unlike the Brotzmann/Sharrock collaborations. - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 11:32:08 -0500 From: "Steve Smith" Subject: RE: Aniara (nzc) There was a CD release of Blomdahl's complete opera released by the Swedish label Caprice many years ago (early CD era), I'm pretty sure. But it's not listed at Amazon or any of the usual suspects I turn to for rare/deleted classical (broinc.com, cybermusicsurplus.com, gemm.com - the latter had a copy of your '2001' LP, though). There are a handful of other releases featuring music by Blomdahl on other labels like Bis, but none as trippy as 'Aniara.' Caprice has a website at http://www.caprice.rikskonserter.se/Eng/index.htm. The search engine doesn't seem to be working this morning, but at the very least you might be able to shoot them off an e-mail inquiring about the availability of remaindered copies. Don't ask me to describe it in detail, though - I haven't heard it since college! Steve Smith ssmith36@sprynet.com - -----Original Message----- From: owner-zorn-list@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-zorn-list@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Cameron Wood Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 7:02 PM Sorry about this totally off topic post, but I'm searching for info on something and I thought this list'd be the best place. Does anyone out there have a recording of Karl-Birger Blomdahl's opera Aniara? I bought an old record of the 2001 soundtrack a while ago, and the second side of the record contains 'highlights' from this opera. It's performed by the orchestra of the Vienna Volksoper conducted by Werner Janssen if that helps. Can anyone provide info on where to find a decent quality (CD) recording of this, or any more info? - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 08:37:00 -0800 (PST) From: Theo Klaase Subject: Melvins - Stag I've been trying to buy "Stag" from the Melvins but it appears that it's unavailable everywhere I look on the net. Suggestions? E-mail me privately, thank you... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - live college hoops coverage http://sports.yahoo.com/ - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 09:09:55 -0800 From: "Patrice L. Roussel" Subject: Re: Teiji Ito On Sun, 17 Mar 2002 18:33:03 -0500 Lang Thompson wrote: > > >The only release I'm familiar with is a CD released by ¿What > >Next?/Nonsequitur in 1997, that included the scores for _Meshes_ and > > Plus the Tzadik release of King Ubu. Definitely not a record to overlook! The record on Nonsequitur got reissued on O.O. Discs: - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ *** - MESHES - MUSIC FOR THEATRE & FILM: Teiji Ito 1999 - O.O. Discs (USA), ??? (CD) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Talking about Klucevsek/Ito, I can't remember where I heard that one of his record would feature compositions by: John Zorn, Pauline Oliveros, Lois V. Vierk, Teiji Ito, Johann Strauss, Guy Klucevsek I thought it was for BLUE WINDOW, but the compositions selected on that record are different: John Zorn, Pauline Oliveros, Lois V. Vierk, Guy Klucevsek Needless to say, if somebody can shed some light on this enigma. Patrice. - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 12:20:55 -0500 From: "Steve Smith" Subject: RE: Cuong Vu content 'Bound' was actually recorded and issued before 'Come Play With Me' (and 'Pure,' the previous trio release on Knitting Factory). It's more conventionally and tightly constructed, less ethereal and wandering, and certainly less electronically-oriented, even though it boasts Jamie Saft's keyboards (mostly piano and Fender Rhodes). Jim Black is the spark plug, Stomu's the engine room, and Cuong even sings on one of the tunes in a light, clear voice which I like very, very much - it's probably why Metheny just hired him. Recorded sound is excellent, as usual for the OmniTone label - much clearer than the Knit discs, which are purposefully diffuse and sort of ambient. Steve Smith ssmith36@sprynet.com - -----Original Message----- From: owner-zorn-list@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-zorn-list@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of patbor Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 9:30 AM which are the main differences in sound and composition between Cuong Vu's "come play with me" (which I have listened to) and his latest work "bound"? - - ------------------------------ End of Zorn List Digest V3 #822 ******************************* To unsubscribe from zorn-list-digest, send an email to "majordomo@lists.xmission.com" with "unsubscribe zorn-list-digest" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. A non-digest (direct mail) version of this list is also available; to subscribe to that instead, replace all instances of "zorn-list-digest" in the commands above with "zorn-list". 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