From: Dgasque@aol.com Subject: Re: Painkiller 2xCD set on Subharmonic Date: 01 Jun 2001 02:18:48 EDT Thanks to all the responses. It's on the way... -- =dg= - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dgasque@aol.com Subject: Re: Braxton and Horwitz... added grief Date: 01 Jun 2001 02:18:46 EDT In a message dated 5/31/01 3:12:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time, velaires@earthlink.net writes: << As a rule, I think albums with spoken word set to music are a sham, and should be banished. >> My Ken Nordine albums *are* the exception, I say! -- =dg= - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Skip Heller Subject: Re: Zorn List Digest V3 #452 Date: 01 Jun 2001 23:24:07 -0700 > On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 05:19:49PM -0700, Skip Heller wrote: >> >> >>> On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 03:07:02PM -0700, Skip Heller wrote: >> >> To me, this is like saying if a piece of music is good, don't dance to it. > > If you pay attention to contemporary dance music as played in the clubs > (such as the currently-defunct-as-far-as-I-know Twilo), much of it is > specifically tailored to go well with dance, and doesn't work nearly as > well outside the dance framework. And certainly the dance without the > music seems, well, odd. I meant something more like James Brown or Tower Of Power, musically. And I've never seen someone dance in silence, so I can't say anything about that. sh - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Skip Heller Subject: Re: Braxton and Horwitz... added grief Date: 01 Jun 2001 23:25:33 -0700 > In a message dated 5/31/01 3:12:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > velaires@earthlink.net writes: > > << As a rule, I think albums with spoken word set to music are a sham, and > should be banished. >> > > My Ken Nordine albums *are* the exception, I say! Actually, I've recorded with Ken. I had my tongue firmly in my cheek on that one. sh - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeroen de Boer Subject: freejazz documentairy Date: 01 Jun 2001 09:27:53 +0200 Found it on allaboutjazz: --------------------- New Documentary on Free Jazz 2001-05-30 I am pleased to announce the completion of the documentary Inside Out In The Open. It's an hour-long exploration into the music known as free jazz. I finished the "fine-tuning" last week with a wonderful editor/technician in Columbus, Ohio, so it now sounds and looks great. This has been a project over 3 years in the making and will be an important contribution to the discussion of the history of jazz music, especially in light of the January PBS broadcast of Jazz by Ken Burns and the criticisms of that series. Inside Out In The Open integrates its subject matter into the form of the documentary itself, creating a musically-driven examination of this music through the words and performances of over 20 musicians. It is filled with insights and surprises. It also gives recognition to important musicians who were completely left out of the PBS/Burns program. This list includes Sun Ra, Albert Ayler, Eric Dolphy, and the later work of John Coltrane. Interviews with: Marion Brown, Baikida Carroll, Daniel Carter, Burton Greene, Susie Ibarra, Joseph Jarman, William Parker, Matt Shipp, Roswell Rudd, Alan Silva and John Tchicai. Performances by: Peter Brotzman, Denis Charles, Glenn Spearman, In Order to Survive, Other Dimensions in Music, and many of those interviewed. Inside Out In The Open is my first major documentary and the first of two examinations of this music. A second documentary focusing on the New York Art Quartet is in production. The Art Quartet existed for only a year in 1964-65, but made a major contribution to the development of music. In 1999 they reconvened for a 35-year reunion. That documentary will be about that group, the reunion, the community of musicians and artists in the early 60s, and a portrait of these artists to the present. A premiere showing of Inside Out In The Open is being planned for New York City in the near future. I will also be entering it in film festivals and having it shown in other non-commercial venues. I will be sending out updates and further information on the details and life of this new work. Feel free to ask questions if you're curious or need more information. Reply to me at: insideoutintheopen@hotmail.com Thank You, Alan Roth -------------- Jeroen de Boer content director Cyberslag Content Providing Damsterdiep 15 9711SG Groningen The Netherlands t +31(0)503115496 m +31 (0)624814506 f +31(0)503632209 jeroen@cyberslag.nl www.cyberslag.nl - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ethan Clauset Subject: [transmissions] tickets now available, other updates (fwd) Date: 01 Jun 2001 03:48:01 -0400 (EDT) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- transmissions site www.transmit.org + artist updates + ticket availability + rafael toral US tour 2001 + recent site updates ________________________ + artist updates ________________________ _ we're thrilled to announce that noriko tujiko (toyko, japan) will be joining us for trans oo4. she will be performing on august 11th, at rednofive. further information is available on-site or from http://www.mego.at/noriko.html _ sadly, due to tour rescheduling and health-related issues, respectively, mira calix and vladislav delay _will not_ be performing at this year's festival. ________________________ + ticket availability. ________________________ we are very pleased to announce that tickets are _now available_ on-site, and directly through http://www.skimo.com. many thanks to s://kimo for making it happen! we are offering an all inclusive week-long pass which includes seven nights of performances, film/video screenings, and other festival events. we strongly encourage (and very much appreciate) early ticket purchases, as we are only able to offer a limited number of full-passes and tickets to individual events due to varying venue capacities. we have also been informed that hotel/motel accommodations during the week of August 6-12th will be VERY limited as well due to an international housewares convention. * so buy your tickets and make reservations early* tickets for opening evening [august 6th] (with performances by ben vida and carl stone) will be available shortly, but the following tickets are now currently on sale at :: [netscape users] http://www.skimo.com/ie/nr/nrnet.html [internetexplorer users] http://www.skimo.com/ie/nr/nrie.html ______________________________________ ALL PRICES _INCLUDE_ PROCESSING/HANDLING FEES ______________________________________ Transmissions oo4 August 6-12, Chicago, IL. ADVANCE FULL WEEK PASSES : $80 Trans oo4 is offering an all-inclusive Full Festival Week-long Pass which includes entry to all performances, film/video screenings, installations, and related events. ______________ AUGUST 8TH: WEDNESDAY: $13.50 Location:: Hothouse, Chicago, Begins 8pm. Spacious evening featuring performances by:: Helen Mirra [Chicago], Steve Roden [Los Angeles], Michael Schumacher [New York]. ______________ AUGUST 9TH: THURSDAY: $13.50 Location:: Subterranean, Chicago, Begins 9pm. Live audio and video performances by : Janek Schaefer [London], Vote Robot [Canada], Randall Jones [Seattle, WA], + DJs Kevin Drumm/Pita [Chicago/Austria]. ______________ AUGUST 10TH: FRIDAY: $16.50 Location :: Hothouse, Chicago, Begins 9pm. Textured microsound performances by: Loren Chasse [San Francisco], Jason Kahn [Zurich], Richard Chartier [Washington, DC], Hecker [Austria], Pita [Austria]. ______________ AUGUST 11TH: SATURDAY: $28 Location :: RedNo5/5th Floor, Chicago, Begins 9pm. Lengthy sets and collaborations :: Sutekh [San Francisco], Kit Clayton [San Francisco], Tujiko Noriko [Toyko, Japan], Dettinger [Germany], Monolake [Germany]. ______________ **please note: the events listed above are those for which we are currently offering tickets; this is not a comprehensive documentation of festival events. please refer to the schedule for a complete detailing of all related festival programs** ________________________ + rafael toral us tour 2001 ________________________ as part of this year's festival pre-series, rafael toral will be performing at trans oo3.7 : : tonic : 107 norfolk street, new york, ny midnight show . rafael toral :: w/ special guests homepage.mac.com/helderluis/rt/ trans oo3.7b : : 6odum : 2116 w chicago ave. chicago, il 10pm . rafael toral :: homepage.mac.com/helderluis/rt/ .ian nagoski :: www.redroom.org/individuals/nagoski/ .ian epps :: www.deadceo.com ________________________ + recent site updates ________________________ -we're in the process of adding individual artist bio pages with photos, site links, and real audio files. you can access these through the performers page in the trans oo4 section. -we've also added realvideo of the following artists from transoo3: + john fahey + alan licht + hrvatski + pita + marcus schmickler - current festival-related articles from the Wire and the Chicago Tribune have been added to the site. ------------------------ thank you for the support, and please let us know if you have any questions. fourth annual transmissions festival http://transmit.org | info@transmit.org po box 257213 chicago il 60625 u s a ____________ _ __ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Albrecht Koschnik Subject: Re: cd storage Date: 01 Jun 2001 05:03:11 -0400 (EDT) Hi! A follow-up to the recent string on cd storage: I am having trouble finding slim jewel cases and regular-size cd cases that carry two or more cds in my local electronic stores. Can anybody suggest a company or companies with websites for this kind of thing (in the US)?? thanks, albrecht - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "& c." Subject: Miles & Prince Date: 01 Jun 2001 08:34:27 -0400 What's the deal with this new 3-CD set from Warner's. Is it Miles lending a trumpet to Prince or is it Prince lending a guitar/vocals/etc. to Miles. Is it an entire session or just a couple of tracks? I'm intrigued. Zach _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Smith" Subject: RE: Miles & Prince Date: 01 Jun 2001 11:51:34 -0400 The rumors vary, and there have been several bootlegs on the collectors market for a long time that purported to be the Prince and Miles sessions. I've got one, and while it's not earth-shattering and doesn't really deliver on its potential, it's definitely interesting. Apparently, the truth is that only one genuine Prince and Miles track has leaked out - "Crucial," I think. Vince, is that right? The rest of what purports to be Prince and Miles is supposedly actually Prince's demos for such a collaboration, with the trumpet parts ably played by his own sideman Atlanta Bliss. (Skip, is he the one you once refered to having conducted?) The story goes that Prince did submit a lot of material to Miles through such self-recorded demos, and that Miles chose to re-record a number of them with his own band. So supposedly among the material being considered for the upcoming Rhino set - which is not entirely a Prince/Miles set, but a retrospective of all of Miles' work for the label - is both the true Prince/Miles session AND the Miles session with Prince's material but his own band. Added to this, there is always the chance that there is material that the collectors simply don't know about. We'll all know soon enough, I guess. Steve Smith ssmith36@sprynet.com NP - Bang on a Can, "Passenger Pigeon," 'Lost Objects' (Teldec) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeroen de Boer Subject: Re: Miles & Prince Date: 01 Jun 2001 18:53:12 +0200 This afternoon I actually wrote an article about their collaborations. I found a very resourceful website at: http://users.ids.net/~dmsr/davisthing.html My piece is in Dutch and can be found at www.wanadoo.nl (I think it will be placed this weekend) The website I mention is written from a Prince point of view and cites a number of situations in which the two of them actually came pretty close to each other. I also called the European Warner Music press-representative, but the album wasn't on the European releaselist yet. On the official Prince-website (www.npgonlineltd.com) there however already is the next statement: "UNauthorized Any track released by TIME WARNER by MILES DAVIS featuring PRINCE is highly UNauthorized. Final production on master recordings never occurred. Nor were split points." Hmm, sounds interesting.. Jeroen > The rumors vary, and there have been several bootlegs on the collectors > market for a long time that purported to be the Prince and Miles sessions. > I've got one, and while it's not earth-shattering and doesn't really deliver > on its potential, it's definitely interesting. > > Steve Smith > ssmith36@sprynet.com > NP - Bang on a Can, "Passenger Pigeon," 'Lost Objects' (Teldec) > > > - > Jeroen de Boer content director Cyberslag Content Providing Damsterdiep 15 9711SG Groningen The Netherlands t +31(0)503115496 m +31 (0)624814506 f +31(0)503632209 jeroen@cyberslag.nl www.cyberslag.nl - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rob Allaert Subject: song sharing Date: 01 Jun 2001 19:29:07 +0200 Zorn-agains, I've got an idea;-) Who would be interested in swapping some selected = mp3' s. You send me one track from an album I haven't got and I'll do the = same=20 for you. It's a way to get to know more stuff. To give a little=20 compatibility directions I'll list some of my favourite music: =B0 Peter Epstein Quartet =B0 Pachora =B0 Circle Maker =B0 Satoko Fujii =B0 Zorn's String Quartets =B0 Dave Douglas' Convergence Contact me privately with your CD list. greetings, Rob @ risk np: Sera Una Noche (www.marecordings.com) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Skip Heller Subject: Re: Miles & Prince Date: 02 Jun 2001 10:41:25 -0700 > > Apparently, the truth is that only one genuine Prince and Miles track has > leaked out - "Crucial," I think. Vince, is that right? The rest of what > purports to be Prince and Miles is supposedly actually Prince's demos for > such a collaboration, with the trumpet parts ably played by his own sideman > Atlanta Bliss. (Skip, is he the one you once refered to having conducted?) > > Steve Smith > ssmith36@sprynet.com > NP - Bang on a Can, "Passenger Pigeon," 'Lost Objects' (Teldec) > No -- I conducted the cat after him (who is still in the band) -- Dave Jansen, who could play anything ably. skip h np: joey Baron -- Crackshot - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: wlt4@mindspring.com Subject: laswell's santana Date: 01 Jun 2001 15:17:41 -0400 This is from a Columbia/Legacy press release. Due date 7/31: BILL LASWELL - "Carlos Santana - Divine Light" (Columbia/Legacy) * Bill Laswell remixes classic cuts from the early '70s Santana albums "Love, Devotion And Surrender" and "Illuminations." Similar in concept to 1999's "Miles Davis - Panthalassa" remix project. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dgasque@aol.com Subject: Sun Ra- Space Is The Place (The Life & Times of Sun Ra) Date: 01 Jun 2001 17:23:25 EDT Thought I'd let the Ra fans on this list know that the above OOP (?) book by Rob Bowman is available from Nina's Discount Oldies for $14.95 . They have a *very* limited supply of this title on hand, so rather than sleeping late, call bright and early on Monday morning. Their phone number is 1-800-366-4627, order hours 8AM-5PM Monday-Friday. Disclaimer: I don't work for Nina's, I just want the admiration of all of you out there. Hit me with the love. -- =dg= - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Neil H. Enet" Subject: RE: laswell's santana Date: 01 Jun 2001 17:47:02 -0400 Oh.....Santana. Although I'm not familiar with his work (though I understand his 70's albums where very good) I just can't read/hear the word SANTANA without thinking of his last multiGRAMMY album (and that's very disgusting for me). Who knows, I'll probably buy this album because of LASWELL. Please, send your opinion about SANTANA's work. Neil H. Enet ------------ - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dgasque@aol.com Subject: Re: Sun Ra- Space Is The Place (The Life & Times of Sun Ra) Date: 01 Jun 2001 18:36:17 EDT In a message dated Fri, 1 Jun 2001 5:24:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Dgasque@aol.com writes: << Thought I'd let the Ra fans on this list know that the above OOP (?) book by Rob Bowman is available from Nina's Discount Oldies for $14.95 . They have a *very* limited supply of this title on hand, so rather than sleeping late, call bright and early on Monday morning. Their phone number is 1-800-366-4627, order hours 8AM-5PM Monday-Friday. Disclaimer: I don't work for Nina's, I just want the admiration of all of you out there. Hit me with the love. -- =dg= - >> Forgot to include the book code for the above, which is . You'll need it to order for the discount price. I should also add that they have it incorrectly posted on their computers at $18.95 . Make sure you mention the $14.95 price as posted in the catalog. -- =dg= - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David Beardsley" Subject: Re: laswell's santana Date: 01 Jun 2001 19:07:52 -0400 ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 5:47 PM > Oh.....Santana. Although I'm not familiar with his work (though I > understand his 70's albums where very good) I just can't read/hear the word > SANTANA without thinking of his last multiGRAMMY album (and that's very > disgusting for me). Who knows, I'll probably buy this album because of > LASWELL Illuminations is an incredible album. Santana with Alice Coltrane, Dave Holland, Jack DeJohnette and others. Very much in tune with A Love Supreme period John Coltrane. David Beardsley. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Vandelaar" Subject: music/art for modern cities. no *particular* zorn content Date: 02 Jun 2001 09:58:13 +0930 A great book on Paris in the 1920s is 'Paris Peasant' by Louis Aragon. As for paintings, you can't go past the imaginings of Willem van Genk. Check out some of his work at http://www.artbrut.ch/artbrut/collection/vangenk/artist.html Cheers, Michael - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "thomas chatterton" Subject: RE: laswell's santana Date: 02 Jun 2001 00:39:35 -0000 >From: "Neil H. Enet" >. > > Please, send your opinion about SANTANA's work. > At one point in the early '70s the Santana band was right up there with Mahavishnu & Mwandishi as the most interesting jazz rock 'fusion' project on the spiritual tip. At their best on Caravanserai (where is that remaster?), Lotus (live from Japan), Borboletta and Welcome. As mentioned Carlos with Alice Coltrane is essential, as is the slightly overblown Love Devotion & Surrender with McLaughlin. Thereafter came a long decline into commercial banality... P.S. John Szwed wrote 'Space Is The Place'... np: OOIOO Feather Float _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dgasque@aol.com Subject: Re: Sun Ra- Space Is The Place (The Life & Times of Sun Ra) Date: 01 Jun 2001 20:44:47 EDT One more try- the author is John F. Szwed, not Rob Boman. It's the hardcover version too, not the currently in-print edition. Did I leave anything out? Oh yeah- Nina's has also got Graham Lock's _Anthony Braxton- Forces in Motion: The Music and Thoughts of Anthony Braxton_ for $4.95, code . -- =dg= - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JonAbbey2@aol.com Subject: Re: laswell's santana Date: 01 Jun 2001 21:14:07 EDT In a message dated 6/1/01 8:40:21 PM, chatterton23@hotmail.com writes: << At one point in the early '70s the Santana band was right up there with Mahavishnu & Mwandishi as the most interesting jazz rock 'fusion' project on the spiritual tip. At their best on Caravanserai (where is that remaster?), Lotus (live from Japan), Borboletta and Welcome. As mentioned Carlos with Alice Coltrane is essential, as is the slightly overblown Love Devotion & Surrender with McLaughlin. Thereafter came a long decline into commercial banality... >> personally, I could live without any of these. the first three Santana records hold up superbly, though, Santana (1969), Abraxas, and especially Santana (1971). I was never really much of a John McLaughlin fan, though, Go Ahead John being the notable exception. Jon www.erstwhilerecords.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SUGAR in their vitamins? Subject: RE: cd storage dilema Date: 01 Jun 2001 20:33:18 -0700 (PDT) a word of warning about those sleeves... i couldn't tell from the website, but if there is no protection for the cd inside the sleeve it will seriously damage any disc inserted. that poly-vinyl material scratches discs easily. i've also seen cds fuse to the sleeve under "normal" home climate conditions. hasta. On Wed, 30 May 2001, Benito Vergara wrote: > This I like: > > http://www.jewelsleeve.com > > The sleeve lets you keep everything except the jewel case. Now all you'll > need is a nice box to keep 'em in (they don't fit in CD shelves, and you'll > need to flip through them). Yes. Beautiful, wonderful nature. Hear it sing to us: *snap* Yes. natURE. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Smith" Subject: Forces in Motion (was RE: Sun Ra- Space Is The Place (The Life & Times of Sun Ra)) Date: 01 Jun 2001 23:29:35 -0400 This is one of the best books on creative music I have *ever* read. It deals with the music, but sets it in the context of real musicians struggling to play creative music, make a living, and survive on an extended road trip. I understood Braxton's great quartet with Crispell, Dresser and Hemingway SOOOOOOOO much better after readin it. Anyone on this list who hasn't read it should jump at this price. And that's no joke (ouch...). Steve Smith ssmith36@sprynet.com NP - Giacinto Scelsi, String Quartet No. 4, Klangforum Wien (Kairos) -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-zorn-list@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Dgasque@aol.com Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 8:45 PM Oh yeah- Nina's has also got Graham Lock's _Anthony Braxton- Forces in Motion: The Music and Thoughts of Anthony Braxton_ for $4.95, code . - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Vincent" Subject: Re: back Date: 02 Jun 2001 08:44:50 +0100 Hi To anyone on this list who've been trying to contact me i the last month, please do it again as I've been unable to answer my mail in the past month. Thanks - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Skip Heller Subject: Re: laswell's santana Date: 03 Jun 2001 00:10:35 -0700 > > In a message dated 6/1/01 8:40:21 PM, chatterton23@hotmail.com writes: > > << At one point in the early '70s the Santana band was right up there with > Mahavishnu & Mwandishi as the most interesting jazz rock 'fusion' project on > the spiritual tip. At their best on Caravanserai (where is that remaster?), > Lotus (live from Japan), Borboletta and Welcome. As mentioned Carlos with > Alice Coltrane is essential, as is the slightly overblown Love Devotion & > Surrender with McLaughlin. Thereafter came a long decline into commercial > banality... >> > > personally, I could live without any of these. the first three Santana > records hold up superbly, though, Santana (1969), Abraxas, and especially > Santana (1971). I was never really much of a John McLaughlin fan, though, Go > Ahead John being the notable exception. > > Jon > www.erstwhilerecords.com > > - > I actually like Santana's recent hit SUPERNATURAL. The pursuit may not be as lofty, but the band grooves really well and Carlos is plainly playing his ass off to this day, esepcially live. Seeing a double bill of him and Los Lobos (at the Greek -- I live in LA) was 110% exciting. skip h - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Scott Handley Subject: OOIOO (was RE: laswell's santana) Date: 02 Jun 2001 00:35:06 -0700 (PDT) --- thomas chatterton wrote: > np: OOIOO Feather Float Not to stray to far from the relevant, but I'd like to give props to OOIOO ("oh-oh-ee-oh-oh"?) for a terrific, eclectic platter that, IMHO, avoids being merely cute. It's really bizarre record, though much, much more accessible than any Boredoms I've heard, and considerably less, um, boring. Oh, yeah, I mention the B'doms because Yoshimi from said band is in/behind OOIOO. Love this record! (For psyche/prog fans, the recent Boredoms record, VISION CREATION NEWSUN, might be highly recommended too. Great fun.) Out, ------s __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marcin Gokieli" Subject: re: Subject: Re: re miles/trane box set vs. single discs Date: 31 May 2001 18:13:09 +0200 Hi, Anybody knows what the content of the siklent way box is supposed to be? We should get the the holland/corea part of 'filles' and 'water babies', the whole 'silent way'. Will the dejohnette / mclaughlin/ davies/ holland trio be on it? will we have any new tracks - there should be lot of them, since all the stuff mentioned here makes would take 1 CD +15 mins , maybe a little more. Marcin (who can't wait for the new box) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Franz Fuchs" Subject: RE: Forces in Motion (was RE: Sun Ra- Space Is The Place (The Life & Times of Sun Ra)) Date: 02 Jun 2001 14:06:48 +0200 > On Behalf Of Steve Smith > This is one of the best books on creative music I have *ever* > read. It > deals with the music, but sets it in the context of real musicians > struggling to play creative music, make a living, and survive > on an extended > road trip. I understood Braxton's great quartet with > Crispell, Dresser and > Hemingway SOOOOOOOO much better after readin it. I almost completely agree. The only slight shortcoming IMO is the way that G. Lock adapts to B.'s astrological and mystical views, at one time using even a friend's horoscope for Braxton. Apart from that it really is flawless and a great book. Regards Franz Fuchs PS: Do the participants of the "Braxton and Horwitz" thread mind if I forward their mails to the Braxton list? (Shameless advertisement: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Anthony_BRAXTON) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "s/Z" Subject: Re: Forces in Motion (was RE: Sun Ra- Space Is The Place (The Life & Times of Sun Ra)) Date: 02 Jun 2001 06:59:20 -0700 >>>The only slight shortcoming IMO is the way that G. Lock adapts to B.'s astrological and mystical views, at one time using even a friend's horoscope for Braxton. Apart from that it really is flawless and a great book.<<< Yes. An 'auotobiographer should alwaya adapt to his or her own views, or the views of the reader, never to the views of his or her subject, especially when such views are mystical. It is so obviously such rubbish, eh? - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Franz Fuchs" Subject: RE: Forces in Motion (was RE: Sun Ra- Space Is The Place (The Life & Times of Sun Ra)) Date: 02 Jun 2001 17:07:17 +0200 > >>>The only slight shortcoming IMO is the way > that G. Lock adapts to B.'s astrological and mystical views, > at one time > using even a friend's horoscope for Braxton. Apart from that it really > is flawless and a great book.<<< > > Yes. An 'auotobiographer should alwaya adapt to his or her > own views, or the > views of the reader, never to the views of his or her > subject, especially > when such views are mystical. It is so obviously such rubbish, eh? Yes, I think a biographer should stay true to his or her views and not adjust too much to his subject, a stance which is called "critical distance", because otherwise the outcome will easily be hagiographic. And yes, I really have a problem with Braxton's leaning towards esoterics, although I wouldn't call it "rubbish" as you polemically try to imply I did. Anyway, it's quite astounding that few (if any) journalists who appreciate Bs music, have questioned his views in this regard - a fact that has already been discussed here two or three months ago. Regards Franz Fuchs - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RogerHParry@cs.com Subject: Re: Forces in Motion Date: 02 Jun 2001 11:27:11 EDT In a message dated 02/06/01 15:14:23 GMT Daylight Time, KEITHMAR@email.msn.com writes: << G. Lock adapts to B.'s astrological and mystical views, at one time using even a friend's horoscope for Braxton. Apart from that it really is flawless and a great book.<<< Yes. An 'auotobiographer >> Biographer's can do what thay wish and auto ones, too Wouldn't you?! Rog - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "thomas chatterton" Subject: Re: laswell's santana Date: 02 Jun 2001 17:17:44 -0000 >From: Skip Heller >the first three Santana > > records hold up... ...the band grooves really well and Carlos is plainly playing his >ass off to this day, esepcially live. Scratching my head at these comments...certainly if you liked the first 3 Santana records, which I also consider to be essential, it follows you would have enjoyed his progression into jazzier regions, and if you think Carlos is 'playing his ass off' now, I'm sure you need to check out his playing on Lotus. As for McLaughlin, without even considering Miles (Jack Johnson!) or Mahavishnu, you might want to listen to Extrapolation (certainly one of the finest records to come out of the '60s British jazz scene), Where Fortune Smiles, My Goal's Beyond & Devotion. And John is 'plainly playing HIS ass off' with the new incarnation of Shakti... _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Skip Heller Subject: Re: laswell's santana Date: 03 Jun 2001 12:15:21 -0700 >> From: Skip Heller > >> the first three Santana >>> records hold up... > ...the band grooves really well and Carlos is plainly playing his >> ass off to this day, esepcially live. > > Scratching my head at these comments...certainly if you liked the first 3 > Santana records, which I also consider to be essential, it follows you would > have enjoyed his progression into jazzier regions, and if you think Carlos > is 'playing his ass off' now, I'm sure you need to check out his playing on > Lotus. As for McLaughlin, without even considering Miles (Jack Johnson!) or > Mahavishnu, you might want to listen to Extrapolation (certainly one of the > finest records to come out of the '60s British jazz scene), Where Fortune > Smiles, My Goal's Beyond & Devotion. And John is 'plainly playing HIS ass > off' with the new incarnation of Shakti... > I think that first band he had was really special. But I think his jazzier stuff showed his blues roots less, and I most enjoy CS as a blues guy reaching that idiom out to other places. In many ways, I feel the same about Hendrix. In the case of John McLaughlin, I've never been a fan, no matter how much I've tried, except JACK JOHNSON and the first LIFETIME album, and I love both. He's probably a genius, but I think he's speaking a different language than I speak. skip heller np: > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > - > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matthew W Wirzbicki (S)" Subject: CDs for sale. Date: 02 Jun 2001 13:26:53 -0600 the following CDs are for sale. Prices include UPS ground shipping = within the US. Sales are on a first come first serve basis. =20 James Blood Ulmer - Music Speeks louder than Words (Koch) $8 (the majority of the CD is JBU's renditions of Ornette Coleman = tunes) Marc Ribot y los Cubanos Postizos - self titled (atlantic) $8 Bill Frisell - Ghost Town (nonesuch) $9 Frank Zappa - 200 Motels original soundtrack 2xCD (ryko) $16 Frank Zappa - Lather 3xCD (ryko) $22 Frank Zappa - Waka/Jawaka (ryko) $9 Gyorgy Kurtag - Musik fur Streichinstrumente (ECM new series) $9 Kiyoshi Mizutani - Works 1989-1991 (povertech) $6 RLW - Tulpas 5xCD (Skeleton) $22 (taken from http://www.selektion.com/members/rlw/rlw_rev.htm: Beautifully packaged in the form of a book,Tulpas took two years to = complete andconsists of interpretations of old and new RLW material by a long = list of contributors: these include Merzbow, Marchetti & Noetinger, Rehberg & = Bauer, Achim Wollscheid, Aube, John Duncan, Ryoji Ikeda, David Grubbs and Jim O=B4Rourke,) Vladislav Delay - Anima (mille plateaux) $10 Jonathan Coleclough - Minya limited edition CDR (strange circus) $11 payment in the form of check, Money order, or cash (at your own risk) = should be mailed to the following address: 722 1/2 N.Weber St. Colorado Springs, CO 80903 thank you. Matt Wirzbicki - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "s/Z" Subject: Re: Forces in Motion (was RE: Sun Ra- Space Is The Place (The Life & Times of Sun Ra)) Date: 02 Jun 2001 12:58:54 -0700 >>>Yes, I think a biographer should stay true to his or her views and not adjust too much to his subject, a stance which is called "critical distance",<<< How do you know GL was not staying true to his views? How is presenting data from a perspective espoused by the subject not in full accord with critical distance? Since Braxton believes in mystical reality, to present data from the arena in which he is interested, and about which he has written volumes, seems fair game. I found the numerology stuff very interesting regardless of whether or not I am personally into numerology. It gave me more of an insider's look at how Braxton thinks and what he thinks is relevant. This is not to say his perspective is above criticism. But, fully understanding his position must precede such criticism. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brennansf@aol.com Subject: Sony box sets Date: 02 Jun 2001 16:29:53 EDT Speaking of CD packaging and storage dilemmas, I wonder if any of you have had problems with the packaging of Sony box sets? When I bought the "Bitches Brew Sessions" box it took three tries before I finally got a set without any glue on the discs. Fine. But a couple days ago I pulled the box out and was shocked to discover that the glue holding the back of two CD sleeves together had separated. Two had rolled into the gap formed and the glue left on the cardboard fused to the CD surface, making the last track(s) on each CD unplayable. I've called Sony Customer Service to complain but haven't heard back from them yet. Anybody had to resolve an issue like this with them? What happened? All I know for sure at this point is that if/when I replace the set, I'm for sure gonna use some kind of inner sleeve to protect the discs from such an occurence in the future. Jerry <> - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeffcalt@aol.com Subject: Re: Sony box sets Date: 02 Jun 2001 17:49:08 EDT yup, i had a similar problem with the Bitches Brew set (as did many folks on the Miles listserv). I brought it back to where I bought and had it replaced...only to have the same problem (glue sticking to the discs) happen again a month later. I gave up and have put the CDs in their own paper sleeves. The box sure looks nice, but that doesn't make up for the fact that the inner sleeves are messed up and can potentially ruin the discs. jeff caltabiano n.p. ellery eskelin w/ andrea parkins & jim black: five other pieces (+2) (1999, hatology) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bill Ashline" Subject: Europeans are Cuttin' In Date: 03 Jun 2001 03:39:20 -0000 http://www.nytimes.com/2001/06/03/arts/03NICH.html http://www.nytimes.com/2001/06/03/arts/03DAVI.html _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RogerHParry@cs.com Subject: Re: Europeans are Cuttin' In Date: 03 Jun 2001 04:08:02 EDT In a message dated 03/06/01 04:40:13 GMT Daylight Time, bashline@hotmail.com writes: << Subj: Europeans are Cuttin' In Date: 03/06/01 04:40:13 GMT Daylight Time From: bashline@hotmail.com (Bill Ashline) Sender: owner-zorn-list@lists.xmission.com To: zorn-list@lists.xmission.com http://www.nytimes.com/2001/06/03/arts/03NICH.html >>- The article, of course, is bunkum! It expresses opinions that are patently not in cosonance with the evidence. There is a super-abundance of creative 'jazz' musicians who carry 'American' papers. 'Norwegians', on the other (one) hand, can be counted on it! They are to be found playing in vast, empty hospital corridors with an all-pervasive odour of disinfectant and cold sterility, EuroColdMusic one of their several pristine promulgators. Have a nice day! Rog - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bertrand Guggenheim Subject: Re: Europeans are Cuttin' In Date: 03 Jun 2001 10:59:00 +0200 Thanks Bill ! France is not only St Germain, we also have Martial ....and even the very creative Un Drame Musical Instantane. http://www.hyptique.com/ONLINE/drame/ Try anything, you'd not regreat it ... Bill Ashline a =E9crit: > http://www.nytimes.com/2001/06/03/arts/03NICH.html > http://www.nytimes.com/2001/06/03/arts/03DAVI.html > _______________________________________________________________________= __ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.co= m. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JonAbbey2@aol.com Subject: Re: Europeans are Cuttin' In Date: 03 Jun 2001 12:54:29 EDT it's a pretty silly article, agreed, although the thesis is essentially=20 correct. jazz is a historical art form, with a very few exceptions of people= =20 working around the edges. however, the European artists Nicholson discusses=20 aren't any more interesting; he manages to write the whole piece ignoring=20 musicians like John Butcher and Axel D=F6rner, who are working out of the ja= zz=20 tradition, yet truly furthering the music. it always amuses me when critics=20 assume the entire world of recorded music is encompassed by the major label=20 product which shows up in their mailbox. Courtney Pine and Nils Petter=20 Molvaer are in the vanguard of contemporary jazz? please.=20 Jon www.erstwhilerecords.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matthew W Wirzbicki (S)" Subject: RE: ground zero question Date: 03 Jun 2001 11:43:40 -0600 hi Julian >Just wondering, what is Ground Zero's "Last Concert" like? like being the liquid steamed by one of those coffee machines? sections are a bit painful to listen to but the transitions - between textures - are so appropriate and well done. it's a full album. not something I would ever put on just a track from. So I guess you could call it a very "unified" performance. just my personal reaction. Matt Wirzbicki ps- sorry for the belated response. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Revue des Fossiles" Date: 03 Jun 2001 15:12:29 -0700 Had a chance to hear Globokar's latest CD, _Oblak Semen_ and recommend it without reservation. Here's a list of his possibly-still-available Harmoni Mundi output: Michel Portal - Turblence CD (Harmonia Mundi 905186) Vinko Globokar - Les Emigres CD (Harmonia Mundi 905212) Vinko Globokar - Globokar by Globokar CD (Harmonia Mundi 905214) Vinko Globokar - Hallo, Do You Hear Me? CD (Harmonia Mundi 90933) The very fine folks at Forced Exposure list _Les Emigres_, and _Hallo_ as being very much in stock. Best starting place out of the above HM titles is probably _Hallo._ - RdF. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ricardo Reis Subject: Frigg Date: 04 Jun 2001 15:10:05 +0100 (WET DST) Could someone point or give a synopses of Frigg? I've got the Brecht album and like it ALOT. any more directions? greets, Ricardo Reis "Non Serviam" - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Neil H. Enet" Subject: Godflesh: Jazzfreaks? Date: 04 Jun 2001 17:48:54 -0400 I understand that GODFLESH's SELFLESS album was named after JOHN COLTRANE's SELFLESSNESS. Now GODFLESH are about to release a compilation called IN ALL LANGUAGES, just like ORNETTE's 1987 album. Can anyone confirm that GODFLESH are indeed jazzfreaks. Thanks Neil H. Enet ------------ NP. Neneh Cherry - Man - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marius Ergo" Subject: Re: Europeans are Cuttin' In Date: 04 Jun 2001 23:53:40 +0200 This is obviusly a very shallow article. For one thing, the article hardly scratches the suface of what europe has to offer, and discusses names that have been around for some years. It also tries geographically to determine where the future of jazz lies("The future of jazz" being the phrase that always cracks me up), which in itself is quite humourous. However, the thing we have to consider when reading the article in queston is that it is written by a journalist whos preconcieved opinion is that the reader does not have a very good overview of neither European nor American jazz history. Or at least it seems like that. The truth about the European jazz scene is that the jazz/house(or whatever)-thing is passè, or to put it differently,it has moved into the mainstream, and I think THAT is the story here. There are more interesting things happening in europe, and it revolves more around free improvisation, which obviously is nothing new, but it is being approached differently than it has been done before. I feel that the traditions of both American and European free jazz are being absorbed by a lot of young european players today and a lot of interesting styles emerges. Again, nothing new, but quite nice(some of it). I am Norwegian, so my knowledge is mostly based on the Norwegian scene, but I can say that there is a lot of interesting things going on with sofa records, the Oslo jazz club blå, and the record label rune grammofon http://sofa.norcd.no/index.html http://www.blaajazz.no http://www.runegrammofon.com _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marius Ergo" Subject: Re: Europeans are Cuttin' In Date: 05 Jun 2001 00:01:19 +0200 Sorry, that would be http://www.blaajazz.com I am Norwegian, so my knowledge is mostly based on >the >Norwegian scene, but I can say that there is a lot of interesting things >going on with sofa records, the Oslo jazz club blå, and the record label >rune grammofon > >http://sofa.norcd.no/index.html >http://www.blaajazz.no >http://www.runegrammofon.com ________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > >- > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Revue des Fossiles" Subject: Re: Godflesh: Jazzfreaks? Date: 04 Jun 2001 18:19:48 -0700 Neil - Justin Broadrick (who has played with Painkiller)is most certainly a "jazz-freak," as is his close artistic associate Kevin Martin. Check out the side project _God_ preferably the album "Posession" (with Zorn and Prevost) to see just how much of a jazzfreak Broadrick is, and the other _God_ albums "Anatomy of Addiction" and its remix "Appeal to Human Greed" for electric era Miles Davis comparisons. Much more detailed information and more at: www.godflesh.com Anyway, you've peaked my curiosity with the announcement of the title of the latest Godflesh album. Now I'll have to go out and pick it up just to listen to Broadrick's take on harmolodic theory. - RdF. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Scott Handley Subject: SOUNDS '99 compilation Date: 04 Jun 2001 19:21:32 -0700 (PDT) Hope this hasn't already been answered, but does anyone know who distributes Blue Tower records in the U.S.? I'm trying to find the 3cd SOUNDS '99 comp, full of Swedish improvisors. Actually, I haven't heard a thing about it, so if anyone has and has an opinion, I'd like to hear about it. Thanks, ------s NP: Iskra 1903 - CHAPTER ONE 1970-2 (disc one) was: Nurse With Wound - ROCK N' ROLL STATION next: Henry Cow - UNREST NR: Samuel Delany - DHALGREN __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Smith" Subject: The Necks? Date: 04 Jun 2001 22:20:24 -0400 Hey all: I know there's been some talk on this list sporadically about the improv piano trio The Necks. I've recently learned that they'll be playing here in New York in October, and was wondering if anyone would care to make some suggestions as to where I might start learning their stuff. Thanks! Steve Smith ssmith36@sprynet.com NP - nada, damn ears still ringing from Napalm Death, Soilent Green and Isis last night at CBGB... depsite the earplugs! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JonAbbey2@aol.com Subject: Re: The Necks? Date: 04 Jun 2001 22:43:06 EDT In a message dated 6/4/01 10:25:32 PM, ssmith36@sprynet.com writes: << I know there's been some talk on this list sporadically about the improv piano trio The Necks. I've recently learned that they'll be playing here in New York in October, and was wondering if anyone would care to make some suggestions as to where I might start learning their stuff. >> I'm not home, so I'm going from memory, but easily the best one I've heard (including the latest, Aether) is Aquatic, which was reissued by the US label Carpet Bomb, and should be easy to find. where are they playing in NYC? Jon www.erstwhilerecords.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Julian" Subject: Re: The Necks? Date: 05 Jun 2001 12:46:44 +1000 > I know there's been some talk on this list sporadically about the improv > piano trio The Necks. I've recently learned that they'll be playing here in > New York in October, and was wondering if anyone would care to make some > suggestions as to where I might start learning their stuff. Their 'thing' is to play long pieces which slowly develop through small changes. So someone plays an idea, the others eventually join in, and then the idea might change a bit, etc... and so through these tiny increments, the piece may be unrecognisable half an hour later... The cds are generally a different story because they overdub organ, samples, and various other things. From my experience, your best bet would be to see them live, but if you really want to hear their stuff first, maybe 'Aquatic', 'Sex' or 'Silent Night' would be good choices. There is also a live cd 'Piano Bass Drums' which is ok but it's not really like being there... - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Herb Levy Subject: Wadada Leo Smith in RealAudio Date: 05 Jun 2001 00:30:31 -0500 Hi y'all, This week Mappings, a weekly new music program on Antenna Internet Radio presents a slew of work by composer/performer Wadada Leo Smith from the mid-1970s to the present including many works originally released on vinyl that have not been re-issued on CD, featuring performances by musicians such as Lester Bowie, California EAR Unit, Anthony Davis, Malachi Favors Magoustous, Charlie Haden, Oliver Lake, New Century Players, Mark Trayle, Bertram Turetzky, Kenny Wheeler, Min Xiao-Fen, and many others, as well as Wadada Leo Smith. The RealAudio program went online about 10-11 pm (Greenwich -0800) on Monday night and will remain online for a week. I hope you have a chance to check out the show. Last week's program (featuring music with roots in Asian musical traditions by Byron Au Yong, Chen Yi, James Fei, Ge Gan-Ru, Jason Kao Hwang, I.S.O., Jin Hi Kim, Bun-Ching Lam, Teizo Matsumura, Tadao Sawai, and Min Xiao-Fen) is available in the archives: See you online. Bests, Herb - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: marco Subject: re NECKS Date: 05 Jun 2001 19:34:52 +1000 steve some necks recommendations sex (acoustic) piano bass drums (live) these albums get repeated rotation (particularly pbd) the other studio stuff is more layered (with hammond and samples etc) and less effective (imo) their live sets are mesmerising (slow accumulative peices that grow over approx 60 mins) the live lineup is acoustic with (you guessed it) piano bass drums looking forward to the concert review in october marco - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rizzi@browbeat.com (m. rizzi) Subject: Re: cd storage dilema Date: 05 Jun 2001 11:08:00 -0700 (PDT) I just got my samples from the two companies, and jewelsleeve.com has a soft Tyvek backing to protect the CD surface, while jazzloft.com does not. I'm Music Librarian for a local community radio station, and we are considering the sleeves to ease our strained storage space. We have over 20,000 CDs right now. Does anyone know if the Tyvek backing is archival safe? Or do y'all know where I can learn more about archival quality storage for CDs. On first glance the jewelsleeve looks good, except that the height and width dimensions are larger than a CD (the thickness is obviously much smaller). Which has the side-effect on not fitting on our current shelves, or in our current cabinet drawers....so switching would entail all new cabinetry/shelves. Ouch! Are there other solutions folks know about that include storage of the traycard in addition to the booklet and CD? thanks, mike rizzi >i couldn't tell from the website, but if there is >no protection for the cd inside the sleeve it will >seriously damage any disc inserted. that >poly-vinyl material scratches discs easily. >i've also seen cds fuse to the sleeve under >"normal" home climate conditions. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rob Allaert Subject: Re: Xu Feng = Cobra ? Date: 05 Jun 2001 21:18:28 +0200 Scott Handley wrote: > Some time back, some posted to the list about secret > rules for XU FENG that were hidden beneath the CD > tray. I bought my copy recently, and it contains a > clear tray, with the instructions easily visible. Was > there an earlier edition with artwork obscuring the > instructions? No, but since it features a transparent tray, feel free to insert any picture you like. I like to keep my secret passwords for my most important credit cards in there. greetings, Rob @ risk np: Eberhart Weber - Endless Days (ECM) bass, oboe, english horn, soprano, piano, percussion - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: konrad Subject: Re: Xu Feng = Cobra ? Date: 05 Jun 2001 15:56:06 -0400 (EDT) > Scott Handley wrote: > > rules for XU FENG that were hidden beneath the CD > > tray. I bought my copy recently, and it contains a > > clear tray, with the instructions easily visible. > I missed this message the first time around and have since purchased a copy. From some of the packaging, the copy i got looked like part of a set (it was also a cutout), so it SEEMED like there may have been an earlier release. Are those really THE instructions? They seem like a kind of map, but hardly enough instructions to tell the 'prompter' how to use it. There must also be 'execution' instructions, no? konrad ^Z - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Gannushkin Subject: Dave Douglas new albums? Date: 05 Jun 2001 22:49:17 -0400 Hello All, Does anybody knows what happened with Dave Douglas new albums? According to his web site, one supposed to released today and one in August. The Songlines one (with Mengelberg, Bennink and Jones) supposed to be releases even in spring. Songlines site is screwed up now and it doesn't seem that they did release anything recently. Albums didn't appear at any on-line store as well as in the AMG database. I wonder if Douglas still have a contract with RCA. -- Best regards, Peter Gannushkin e-mail: shkin@shkin.com URL: http://www.downtownmusic.net/ - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Smith" Subject: RE: Dave Douglas new albums? Date: 06 Jun 2001 00:46:06 -0400 Dave still has a contract with RCA. The Witness album will be out on August 21 on the newly revived (God knows why) RCA Bluebird imprint. I know there were unfavorable reports from Victoriaville, but I've had an advance of this disc for a while now, and I continue to think that it's one of Dave's strongest statements and perhaps the most organic unifications of all of his various interests to date. Maybe he plays too little for some tastes, but I think the album is a drop dead winner. Plus, everyone will enjoy the guest vocalist on "Mahfouz" - Tom Waits, in an extended narration not worlds removed from "what is he building in there?" Dave's album of dance suites for the Trisha Brown Dance Company - which features Charms of the Night Sky, another quartet with Greg Tardy, Greg Cohen and Susie Ibarra, and a final suite with both groups combinesd - is not going to be available in stores for some months, maybe not even until next year. But it's already been manufactured, and will be available exclusively via the live performances at the Lincoln Center Festival and, to non-New Yorkers, through Dave's website at www.davedouglas.com. Dave's final album of his four-disc deal with RCA will feature the "New Quintet" and will most likely be out next spring. As for the Songlines disc, Tony Reif might want to chime in himelf on that one. But it wouldn't surprise me if it's been delayed just a tad, especially given that Songlines is distributed by Allegro, one of the three distributors that's been frozen out of Tower Records. I'd imagine that that might account for a substantial portion of that disc's potential market, and therefore maybe the disc is on some sort of temporary hiatus. But again, I'm only speculating, and as I said, if he's still on this list, maybe Tony will want to tell us what's up himself. Tony? Steve Smith ssmith36@sprynet.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "thomas chatterton" Subject: Re: Dave Douglas new albums? Date: 06 Jun 2001 05:37:49 -0000 >From: Peter Gannushkin > > Does anybody knows what happened with Dave Douglas new albums? > Not new recordings, but a new release is the Mosaic Sextet on the GM Recordings label, featuring some of Dave's earliest sessions with a band that included Mark Feldman, Joe Fonda and Michael Rabinowitz on (electric!) bassoon. This is a fascinating 'period piece', and the band show some pretty diverse influences, including Henry Cow & Magma. Prog jazz anyone? _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marcin Gokieli" Subject: Odp: Kormorany [was RE: KC alumni association] Date: 03 Jun 2001 13:08:12 +0200 > Yes, Kormorany is a contemporary band. I'm curious - what is it about the > name that made you think they might be older? 'Kromoran' is a name of a bird, a 'cormororant', as my polish-english dictionary says. Kormorany would then be 'the cormorants', in the spirit of 'the animals', 'the rolling sotnes', 'the art bears', etc. I'll try to catch them. I'm sure they'd be surpirised to know that people here hear about them through some NYC people. I want the silent way box NOW, Marcin - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andreas Dietz" Subject: Re: Frigg Date: 06 Jun 2001 14:42:00 +0200 >From: Ricardo Reis > > Could someone point or give a synopses of Frigg? I've got the >Brecht album and like it ALOT. any more directions? Frigg is (was) the band of guitarist Bert Wrede from Berlin. I don´t know if they´re still active or defunct? I have the first three cds (recorded 1994-96): ISN'T IT A TANGO DÖNERFRESSING WOMAN DUST DIARY and I like them - one of a very few interesting bands from Germany... I haven´t heard the Brecht, is it the one issued by Knitting Factory? Andreas _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Samerivertwice@aol.com Subject: Xenakis Date: 06 Jun 2001 10:17:46 EDT I've never heard Xenakis, but the discussion about him on this list has piqued my curiosity. Would the 2CD collection described below be a good place to start? Many thanks, Tom Iannis Xenakis 1: Chamber Music 1955-1990 This 2-CD collection of Xenakis' works composed 1955 - 1990 contains some of the early works that people found wild and incomprehensible, among them 'Herma' (1961), for solo piano; 'Nomos Alpha' (1966), for solo cello; and 'ST/4' (1962), for string quartet. It also contains a large enough number of works from the 1970s and 1980s that we get a sense of the progression of Xenakis' style: 'Mikka' (1971), for violin; 'Evryali' (1973), for piano; 'Mikka S' (1976), for violin; 'Kottos' (1977), for cello; 'Ikhoor' (1978), for string trio; 'Dikhthas' (1979), for piano and violin; 'Mists' (1980), for piano; 'Embellie' (1981), for viola; 'Tetras' (1983), for string quartet; 'Akea' (1986), for string quartet and piano; 'a r.' (1987), for piano; and 'Tetora' (1990), for string quartet. It's a significant collection. And the magnificent performers are the Arditti String Quartet, which is special in its performances of 20th-century music, and the excellent Claude Helffer, pianist. ______________________________________________________________________ Phil Spector: "I've been listening to a lot of Andrew Lloyd Webber lately, and enjoying it. Someday I hope to set his stuff to music." - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bill Ashline" Subject: Vision Fest in the NY Times Date: 06 Jun 2001 14:53:16 -0000 Not to belabor the state of journalism today, but perhaps some might be interested in the NY Times piece on the Vision Festival. Not bad but still pretty amateur, which makes me conclude once again that I'd rather read the Zorn list than what goes as high punditry in America's premier rag. http://www.nytimes.com/2001/06/06/arts/06NOTE.html _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David Beardsley" Subject: Re: Xenakis Date: 06 Jun 2001 11:00:51 -0400 ----- Original Message ----- > I've never heard Xenakis, but the discussion about him on this list has > piqued my curiosity. Would the 2CD collection described below be a good > place to start? > Iannis Xenakis 1: Chamber Music 1955-1990 If this is on the Montaigne label, yes. David Beardsley - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom Gatzen Subject: Re: Xenakis Date: 06 Jun 2001 09:18:14 -0700 (PDT) I can't find a copy here in Atlanta, I ordered it from a store and still don't have it. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: patRice Subject: Re: Xenakis Date: 06 Jun 2001 18:22:52 +0200 If I remember correctly, Amazon.com has it. patRice np: Missing Persons, Color In Your Life nr: Irvine Welsh, Glue Tom Gatzen wrote: > > I can't find a copy here in Atlanta, I ordered it from > a store and still don't have it. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 > a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ricardo Reis Subject: Re: Frigg Date: 06 Jun 2001 17:28:44 +0100 (WET DST) On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, Andreas Dietz wrote: > I haven=B4t heard the Brecht, is it the one issued by Knitting Factory? =09yes... invited vocalist Meira Asher (among others)... =09 =09=09=09=09 Ricardo Reis =09=09=09=09"Non Serviam" - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Samerivertwice@aol.com Subject: Re: Xenakis Date: 06 Jun 2001 13:05:23 EDT In a message dated 6/6/01 12:18:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time, aargh881@yahoo.com writes: > I can't find a copy here in Atlanta, I ordered it from > a store and still don't have it. I found it here: http://www.cdemusic.org/store/cde_search.cfm?keywords=ixenakiscds And I'm going to order a copy....NOW. Tom ______________________________________________________________________ Phil Spector: "I've been listening to a lot of Andrew Lloyd Webber lately, and enjoying it. Someday I hope to set his stuff to music." - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Scott Handley Subject: Re: Xenakis Date: 06 Jun 2001 09:16:28 -0700 (PDT) --- Samerivertwice@aol.com wrote: > I've never heard Xenakis, but the discussion about > him on this list has > piqued my curiosity. Would the 2CD collection > described below be a good > place to start? > Iannis Xenakis 1: Chamber Music 1955-1990 This is a great recording, but if you like the idea of a long electro/acoustic tape piece traversing from barely audible strands of sine tones to full-on grinding and screaming, LA LEGENDE D'EER (which I think was recently reissued [again] by Montaigne-Naive). For nightmarish e/a orchestral-spatial bombast, maybe KRAANERG or PERSEPOLIS. I simply mention these as alternative inroads to the spiky, angular chamber music on the double CD. Does anyone know what kinds of work the man was doing the last ten or twenty years or so of his life? I don't think I've heard anything newer than the late Seventies. ------s NP: DACHTE MUSIK (Malfatti/Schneider/Stangl/Hautinger) (subterranean---and often subaudible---water fantasties) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DvdBelkin@aol.com Subject: Re: Vision Fest in the NY Times Date: 06 Jun 2001 13:49:15 EDT The Times article was an enthusiastic endorsement of this music by a critic who was new to it, and a call to others looking for the real deal to go check it out. She was very complementary about the scene, and I thought said exactly the right things about the spirit with which one should approach it: "Accessible? These tones were irresistible, though not easily absorbed. They challenged the habits of listening, rerouting the path that sound travels from ear to mind. Perhaps so many find such music irritating because, at its core, bewilderment is its gift. The questions it poses are bottomless." I don't think that "sophisticated" criticism would have improved on that. Sometimes, as an old boss of mine once said, you just have to take yes for an answer. David rp: The Mermen, "Live at the Haunted House" - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Samerivertwice@aol.com Subject: Re: Xenakis Date: 06 Jun 2001 13:49:17 EDT All, Many thanks for the wonderful repsonses/recommendations. In an effort to check out a small portion of Xenakis's non-electronic oeuvre, I'm going to purchase both the Chamber Works double CD and Kraanerg. These are the winners among your recommendations, and the descriptions provided by record companies/online music sites give me the impression that they are most up my listening alley. Again, thanks, Tom In a message dated 6/6/01 1:25:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time, thesubtlebody@yahoo.com writes: > > I've never heard Xenakis, but the discussion about > > him on this list has > > piqued my curiosity. Would the 2CD collection > > described below be a good > > place to start? > > > Iannis Xenakis 1: Chamber Music 1955-1990 > > This is a great recording, but if you like the idea of > a long electro/acoustic tape piece traversing from > barely audible strands of sine tones to full-on > grinding and screaming, LA LEGENDE D'EER (which I > think was recently reissued [again] by > Montaigne-Naive). For nightmarish e/a > orchestral-spatial bombast, maybe KRAANERG or > PERSEPOLIS. I simply mention these as alternative > inroads to the spiky, angular chamber music on the > double CD. > > Does anyone know what kinds of work the man was doing > the last ten or twenty years or so of his life? I > don't think I've heard anything newer than the late > Seventies. > > ------s ______________________________________________________________________ Phil Spector: "I've been listening to a lot of Andrew Lloyd Webber lately, and enjoying it. Someday I hope to set his stuff to music." - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mike Chamberlain Subject: Re: Vision Fest in the NY Times Date: 06 Jun 2001 14:09:22 -0400 on 6/6/01 1:49 PM, DvdBelkin@aol.com at DvdBelkin@aol.com wrote: > The Times article was an enthusiastic endorsement of this music by a critic > who was new to it, and a call to others looking for the real deal to go check > it out. She was very complementary about the scene, and I thought said > exactly the right things about the spirit with which one should approach it: I agree. I read the article and could not see what Bill's problem with it was. She was writing as someone who's not familiar with the music but went in with an open mind. And she was favorably impressed. How much more sophisticated could/should she have been? --Mike -- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Perfect Sound Forever Subject: Re: Vision Fest in the NY Times Date: 06 Jun 2001 14:11:55 -0400 On Wed, 06 Jun 2001 13:49:15 EDT, DvdBelkin@aol.com said: > The Times article was an enthusiastic endorsement of this music by a critic who was new to it, and a call to others looking for > the real deal to go check it out. She was very complementary about the scene, and I thought said exactly the right things about > the spirit with which one should approach it > Agreed. Powers showed up for every night at the Knit (something I couldn't do as much as I love VF), ran around to the shows in the differerent rooms and spent hours interviewing the people behind it. She is new to this stuff but, unlike many other writers I've seen, she has the guts and honesty to admit it. Unlike our friend Mr. Burns, she doesn't then brush it off but makes all-out attempts to embrace it. For a paper like the Times where many of the readers are in a similar position as she is, this kind of thing can only help VF I believe. Best, Jason -- Perfect Sound Forever online music magazine perfect-sound@furious.com http://www.furious.com/perfect - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim Flannery Subject: Re: Vision Fest in the NY Times Date: 06 Jun 2001 12:45:33 -0700 Perfect Sound Forever wrote: > > She is new to this stuff but, unlike many other writers I've seen, she has > the guts and honesty to admit it. Pity about that third picture caption on the online version, tho (my goodness has Wm Parker lost weight ;^>) ... -- Jim Flannery newgrange@sfo.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Patrice L. Roussel" Subject: discovering Hans Tammen Date: 06 Jun 2001 13:57:27 -0700 A friend played to me ENDANGERED GUITAR by guitarist Hans Tammen (on Nur/Nicht/Nur). Needless to say, I was quite impressed! I don't remember this musician being discussed on this list. What else should I get from him? Thanks, Patrice. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matthew W Wirzbicki (S)" Subject: Parmegiani/Ferrari re-issues? Date: 06 Jun 2001 15:35:27 -0600 anyone know if these are available now? http://www.electrocd.com/cat.e/3001_INA_C.html http://www.electrocd.com/cat.e/1002_INA_C.html http://www.electrocd.com/cat.e/2008_INA_C.html price listing is $25 US for each and there is a date of 6/5... ...it doesn't appear, however, that they can be ordered from the site. any news? thanks, Matt Wirzbicki - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Knutboy@aol.com Subject: Re: Parmegiani/Ferrari re-issues? Date: 06 Jun 2001 18:40:55 EDT --part1_41.c6c87d8.28500b77_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I found the Parmegiani's last night at Kim's, here in New York. Good chance that Forced Exposure will have them on their site this weekend. Did not see the Ferrari yet. --part1_41.c6c87d8.28500b77_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I found the Parmegiani's last night at Kim's, here in New York. Good chance
that Forced Exposure will have them on their site this weekend. Did not see
the Ferrari yet. --part1_41.c6c87d8.28500b77_boundary-- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ken Waxman Subject: Re: discovering Hans Tammen Date: 06 Jun 2001 19:15:04 -0400 (EDT) Patrice (and others): He has a great duo set out on Leowith Dominic Duval called The Road Bends Here. But be warned, because he plays acoustic guitar on it, the disc sounds completely different than ENDANGERED GUITAR. But that's OK with me. Different sides of people's art should be encouraged. Ken Waxman --- "Patrice L. Roussel" wrote: > > A friend played to me ENDANGERED GUITAR by > guitarist Hans Tammen (on > Nur/Nicht/Nur). Needless to say, I was quite > impressed! I don't remember > this musician being discussed on this list. What > else should I get from him? > > Thanks, > > Patrice. > > - > _______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dgasque@aol.com Subject: Re: Parmegiani/Ferrari re-issues? Date: 06 Jun 2001 22:09:05 EDT In a message dated Wed, 6 Jun 2001 5:36:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "Matthew W Wirzbicki (S)" writes: << anyone know if these are available now? http://www.electrocd.com/cat.e/3001_INA_C.html http://www.electrocd.com/cat.e/1002_INA_C.html http://www.electrocd.com/cat.e/2008_INA_C.html price listing is $25 US for each and there is a date of 6/5... ..it doesn't appear, however, that they can be ordered from the site. any news? thanks, Matt Wirzbicki - >> Wow...$25 is a bit steep for INA-GRM releases (unless they're doubles, of course.) The last ones I got from Rioux's were in the $16-18 range, IIRC. -- np: LS-TTL (extremely nice MP3s I downloaded from MP3.com . A supurb mix of power electronics & dark ambient stuff.) =dg= - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "thomas chatterton" Subject: Re: Parmegiani/Ferrari re-issues? Date: 07 Jun 2001 03:02:56 -0000 >From: "Matthew W Wirzbicki (S)" < > >anyone know if these are available now? > >http://www.electrocd.com/cat.e/3001_INA_C.html >http://www.electrocd.com/cat.e/1002_INA_C.html >http://www.electrocd.com/cat.e/2008_INA_C.html > Funny you should mention these, because I just got De Natura Sonorum & Presque Rien in the mail today (after ordering them over a month ago thru Diffusion i Media). And they are expensive, about U.S.$22.50 per disc, although that does includes the postage from France. The Parmegiani is certainly one of the classics of electroacoustic music! Oh well...I guess I'll have to get the other one now... np: Presque Rien _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Caleb T. Deupree" Subject: Re: Xenakis Date: 06 Jun 2001 23:12:46 -0400 At 09:16 AM 6/6/01 -0700, Scott Handley wrote: > >Does anyone know what kinds of work the man was doing >the last ten or twenty years or so of his life? I >don't think I've heard anything newer than the late >Seventies. The electronic cd issued jointly by INA-GRM and the EMF filled out the cd with a couple of newer pieces that were definitely not up to the standards set by Bohor et al. They seemed more interested in actual pitch sets and had a pretty homogenous timbre, which put the pieces more in the bippity-boop-boop school of electronics. The great pieces (including the original Nonesuch lp that was the primary subject of this cd) were layers of different sounds, much more powerful. There are also some pieces from the 1980s on the Asphodel orchestral sets, which as I remember are on a par with his other instrumental works, but overall I'm more familiar with the electronic pieces (the original Nonesuch album was my starting point with Xenakis). -- Caleb Deupree cdeupree@erinet.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Gannushkin Subject: Re[2]: Dave Douglas new albums? Date: 07 Jun 2001 02:18:19 -0400 Hello Steve, These news sounds a little bit weird. Why the musician, who named as the best one in several categories and for several years cannot release his albums like any other one? Already recorded and even manufactured CDs are postponed. Why the companies are treating him like that? I can understand the problems with Songlines, but what's wrong with RCA? Is there any chance that Dave Douglas will be able to release his music as fast as for example Zorn? It would be nice to see his albums published by Tzadik in 2-3 months after recording. Waits as a guest singer on Dave's album sounds amazing. I don't know why anybody might think that "Witness" is boring. The concert last summer was definitely the best one of Douglas I saw. It was so exciting and powerful that it completely changed my opinion about his own music, which I thought before was over-composed. It forced me to listen to all his CDs again and gave me the impulse to understand it from different level. -- Best regards, Peter Gannushkin e-mail: shkin@shkin.com URL: http://www.downtownmusic.net/ - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Richard Gardner" Subject: Miles and Plunderphonics Date: 07 Jun 2001 08:38:57 +0100 I am not sure how many people on the list like the work of John Oswald. I have seen that several people have got copies of the new Plunderphonic 69-96 set. I just wanted to say that I think that Oswald has been doing a fantastic job. Until I heard this set I had no idea how thoughtful and complex his music is (I had only heard Plexure and Grayfolded). I had seen him as a kind of gifted prankster but this seems to place him in the realm of the true avant garde. Each piece appears to have a careful plan adapting and preparing his armoury for precise aims. The range of music across the 2 CDs is extraordinary. The whole thing is backed up by a real desire to take the big record companies and the whole copyright issue head on. His samples are never hidden, the whole point is you recognise them. That said, let's not get too serious about this, there are some great funny moments and the whole project is haunted by a wonderful sense of humour. (The inside back cover pic of the licencing document going up in flames is a finger to the industry.) Oswald has clearly been taking great risks, but is determined to get his work and its guerrilla assault on the music industry into the market place. One way to attack the new world order is to plant viruses in their music. However, the recent moves over the release of this set beat everything. From Oswalds fONY music site he states: prerecorded message: The bad news is that my record label FONY, will not be releasing the PLUNDERPHONICS box set after all. We've been unable to secure certain key licensing deals. Rather than put out an emasculated version of the set, we've decided not to publish it at all. The good news is that my associates in Negativland, upon hearing of my decision, have decided to liberate, or steal, depending upon your point of view, the complete package, and release it on their label SEELAND. Several months ago we sent them test pressings and a PDF of all the text and art, for their perusal, and they will be using these materials, which are digitally perfect replications of the masters, for manufacturing. Since the new release plans do not entail licensing fees, the suggested retail list price will, according to Negativland, plummet to one third of the our original projected list price - the new retail list is $33.33 USD. Negativland has made good on their promise that the box set will not be changed or compromised in any other way. The package looks great. I am happy to do nothing to prevent them from following through with this scheme. Get it while you can! : John Oswald and Negativland put the following: message from Netativ/Seeland: In reference to the Plunderphonics box: Negativland has taken several steps to insure that our release of this monumental work will not be hindered. We have closed our formally undefendable mailorder box and moved it to Olympia (P.O. Box 7218, Olympia, Wa. 98507) where we are now able to guard it with private security. NO registered mail will be allowed to be dropped into this box (DON"T attempt to contact us via registered mail!) and if they figure out they need to use normal mail, we'll simply deny we ever got it. To further protect our wrongly deligitimized art endeavors, all of Seeland/Negativland has temporarily moved into alternative live/work facilities at least until this product is out and on the shelves. Do not contact us at our former addresses as we wont be there. We have already retained what you might call a cadre of local renegade lawyers who are ready and willing to immediately thwart any cease and desist orders, should they actually get through to us. I am sure there are people on the list who are well informed on this issue. Is it really as serious as these message indicate or are the pranksters just ratcheting up the game? On a completely different point does anyone know when the new Miles Davis Live at Filmore East, March 7, 1970 is released. Exceptional reviews in the UK. Sony.com, Tower and Amazon don't seem to have it listed. Sorry for a lengthy posting Richard Gardner - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: patRice Subject: RE: Plunderphonics Date: 07 Jun 2001 10:00:03 +0200 Richard Gardner wrote: > I am not sure how many people on the list like the work of John Oswald. I > have seen that several people have got copies of the new Plunderphonic 69-96 > set. According to Negativland.com they've already sold all copies of the first pressing! WOW! Anyone know of an on-line shop in Europe that carries this release? patRice np: Ennio Morricone, Anthology nr: Irvine Welsh, Glue - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RogerHParry@cs.com Subject: A touch of Zorn and Oswald Date: 07 Jun 2001 06:36:32 EDT For your delectation!=20 A Spoerri-esque* extract, 6 year vintage, and a touch of Zorn and Oswald=20 (this latter currently enjoying discussion on this site) - HONG KONG Wednesday, 05 April 1995 Leaving the office last night (04), I swept up my personal pile from my desk= =20 top with a view to sorting it out here at home. It includes -=20 (i) An empty bag which had held 'amazing super candy Oh! Apple', a Japanese=20 product which has Vitamin C in a mint fla-voured capsule coated in really=20 powerful sour apple juice powder. The bag carries this 'Warning' on its back= ,=20 'About candy/ this is so danger/ please do not/ eat suddenly you have to/=20 take care. Well have enjoy day.' Try one and you'll fully understand this=20 message! [Perhaps this poetic warning could be used for concrete purposes?]=20= =20 (ii) A further, updated, Victoriaville FIMAV programme: 18 - 22 May. Names I= =20 know include Pino Minafra, John Oswald [first encountered in the early to mi= d=20 eighties when I had occasion to visit Canada frequently. I first heard him=20 play in the back room of an ageing hostelry in downtown Toronto where he=20 turned up regularly every Saturday afternoon and played, whether anyone else= =20 came or not. Bill Smith it was who first took me there. More recently, I=20 encountered John at the Huddersfield Festival and we chatted briefly. It was= =20 a happy chance] with - inter alia - David Prentice [another of those=20 fellows well met in Toronto through Bill], Bob Osterhag with Mark Dresser=20 [with whom I've had fleeting words in diverse places, not least Belgium],=20 Gerry Hemingway [with whom I have a good acquaintance; his recent efforts in= =20 disused baths in Brussels produced (for me, I speak only for me!) satisfying= =20 results] and Phil Minton [with whom I first spoke in the seventies in=20 Liverpool when he was on a duo tour of the UK with Fred Frith. Happily, I=20 still encounter him frequently]. Bill Frisell with Joey Baron [whom I first=20 met in Antwerp in the mid to late 90s - I recall that JJ Avenel was playing=20 with him and certain Dutchmen. More recently he was at Antwerp with Misha=20 Mengelberg and even more recently, of course, in Derek's COMPANY sessions at= =20 Tonic in April this year (2001)] and Kermit Driscoll (unfamiliar). Phil=20 Minton and Veryan Weston [another friend of long-standing], Sainkho=20 Namtchylak with Ned Rothenberg. John Zorn with Joey Baron, Dave Douglas=20 [encountered three or four time, with brief chat, Belgium, Scotland=E2=80= =A6] and=20 Greg Cohen [whom I've met once only, in Antwerp, at the Misha show earlier=20 this year in which Joey Baron was also a participant (along with Dave=20 Douglas)]. David S. Ware with William Parker [whose acquaintance I first mad= e=20 in Berlin when we had adjacent hotel rooms. It was 1988, the year of the=20 numerous Cecil Taylor events organised by FMP. William had a tuba with him i= n=20 that room!] and two others. Benat Achiary, N.O.W Orchestra with Paul Plimley= =20 [who I also got to know in my Canada days], etc. Otomo Yoshihide, and the=20 Kronos Quartet doing Zorn, Partch, Carter, Glass and others. 'Twould be nice= =20 to go, but... (iii) Three flyers for upcoming shows here: Parkening, a US guitarist; Marth= a=20 Graham Dance; Midori, fiddler. [I did not go to any of these events] (iv) Official 'functional constituency' forms for the Hong Kong Jazz Record= =20 Society![A thing I started in the mid seventies, it was dormant for a long=20 time before it was finally discontinued in 1996] Bit of a joke, that. (v) An AI annual sub renewal form. [Still an Amnesty member, still writing=20 Urgent Action letters=E2=80=A6] (vi) A headline from the Eastern Express [a short-lived Hong Kong daily=20 newspaper] for Thursday, March 9, 1995 - meticulously cut out and assembled=20 by P - which reads, 'Parry blows whistle on sleaze'. [The 'Parry' referred t= o=20 is not me!]=20 (vii) Diverse snaps and negatives. (viii) A fax from H, received PM on 3 April that I'll now read carefully for= =20 the first time. * An Anecdoted Topography of Chance (for example, as published in 1966 by=20 Something Else Press Inc of New York, Cologne and Paris - tho' this is=20 actually a re-anecdoted version.) Any further anecdotings will be gratefully received! Best regards Roger Parry - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bill Ashline" Subject: Re: Vision Fest in the NY Times Date: 07 Jun 2001 15:19:29 -0000 >From: Mike Chamberlain >Subject: Re: Vision Fest in the NY Times > >on 6/6/01 1:49 PM, DvdBelkin@aol.com at DvdBelkin@aol.com wrote: > > > The Times article was an enthusiastic endorsement of this music by a >critic > > who was new to it, and a call to others looking for the real deal to go >check > > it out. She was very complementary about the scene, and I thought said > > exactly the right things about the spirit with which one should approach >it: > >I agree. I read the article and could not see what Bill's problem with it >was. She was writing as someone who's not familiar with the music but went >in with an open mind. And she was favorably impressed. How much more >sophisticated could/should she have been? Well, as you probably know Mike, meaning is largely determined from context. I got no problem with a neophyte who drops her jaws at her first avant-garde jazz fest. We can all relate to that. Been there, done that. But this article comes on the heels of several fairly uninformed pieces on jazz and avant-garde jazz in America's premier newspaper. I'm wondering when the paper's going to invest in a writer that's been to more than a couple of gigs. It seems to me that NYC is an important enough place for this music so that they'd hire someone who knew something about it. If I want to follow the latest on the intifada in the middle east, I don't feel quite satisfied with a newby who hasn't gotten his feet wet or who doesn't appreciate the political context. Why should I be here, whatever niceties are thrown around? To be honest, I'd rather read you guys. You know more. I mean that as a compliment. I'm not simply satisfied when a paper does something it should be doing anyway. By the way, I did say the article wasn't bad. It wasn't. But it would have been better if the person had had more experience with the music. I mean that seriously. But yes, favorable open-mindedness is a good place to start. I wish the writer well. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JonAbbey2@aol.com Subject: Re: Vision Fest in the NY Times Date: 07 Jun 2001 11:39:49 EDT In a message dated 6/7/01 11:20:47 AM, bashline@hotmail.com writes: << I'm wondering when the paper's going to invest in a writer that's been to more than a couple of gigs. >> well, of course they still have Ben Ratliff (one of my best friends, despite our huge differences in musical opinions), and Ben is one of the best jazz writers around, when given time to write and some inspiration from the music. you should understand that the Arts and Leisure is essentially a separate entity from the daily paper, with different editors, and much of the writing is done by freelancers (including most of the uninformed pieces you refer to.) as you also know, David Toop just wrote his first piece for them, and will hopefully write more in the future. his initial experience with them was not ideal, but I've been imploring him to persevere, because they could really use him. it's easy to complain about the music writing in the Times, but trying to actually come up with someone they should hire is much more difficult. the person needs to be a good, insightful writer who lives in NYC and is willing to cover concerts 3 or 4 nights a week, then write up reviews on a short deadline, many of which will never run in the paper. it's very hard to do that for a while, coupled with all of the outside pressures you face as the Times critic, and not burn out creatively. imagine trying to come up with something original and/or interesting to say about the Lincoln Center Jazz Orchestra the tenth time you write about them. the other thing to keep in mind about specifically covering the Vision Fest is that if you're knowledgable about the music, you tend to fall into one of two camps. either you're a huge fan, in which case it's very hard to summon up the necessary perspective and not end up writing a Steven Joerg-like press release, or you think the whole "ecstatic jazz" scene is remarkably boring, and you'd rather be strapped down like Alex in A Clockwork Orange than have to sit through a whole week of it. a fresh, inexperienced perspective works well in this specific circumstance, I think. <> well, of course we do! nobody was arguing that. :) Jon www.erstwhilerecords.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mike Chamberlain Subject: Re: Vision Fest in the NY Times Date: 07 Jun 2001 11:41:32 -0400 on 6/7/01 11:19 AM, Bill Ashline at bashline@hotmail.com wrote: >> From: Mike Chamberlain >> Subject: Re: Vision Fest in the NY Times >> >> on 6/6/01 1:49 PM, DvdBelkin@aol.com at DvdBelkin@aol.com wrote: >> >>> The Times article was an enthusiastic endorsement of this music by a >> critic >>> who was new to it, and a call to others looking for the real deal to go >> check >>> it out. She was very complementary about the scene, and I thought said >>> exactly the right things about the spirit with which one should approach >> it: >> >> I agree. I read the article and could not see what Bill's problem with it >> was. She was writing as someone who's not familiar with the music but went >> in with an open mind. And she was favorably impressed. How much more >> sophisticated could/should she have been? > > Well, as you probably know Mike, meaning is largely determined from context. > I got no problem with a neophyte who drops her jaws at her first > avant-garde jazz fest. We can all relate to that. Been there, done that. > But this article comes on the heels of several fairly uninformed pieces on > jazz and avant-garde jazz in America's premier newspaper. I'm wondering > when the paper's going to invest in a writer that's been to more than a > couple of gigs. It seems to me that NYC is an important enough place for > this music so that they'd hire someone who knew something about it. If I > want to follow the latest on the intifada in the middle east, I don't feel > quite satisfied with a newby who hasn't gotten his feet wet or who doesn't > appreciate the political context. Why should I be here, whatever niceties > are thrown around? To be honest, I'd rather read you guys. You know more. > I mean that as a compliment. I'm not simply satisfied when a paper does > something it should be doing anyway. By the way, I did say the article > wasn't bad. It wasn't. But it would have been better if the person had had > more experience with the music. I mean that seriously. But yes, favorable > open-mindedness is a good place to start. I wish the writer well. Point well taken. Nevertheless....maybe I'm just cynical about daily newspapers, but I don't think that those who are interested in in-depth analysis need to bother looking in the New York Times for it. When I need it, I can get it elsewhere. And despite its lack of sophistication, the article did a lot more for the music--I wouldn't think that William Parker and Patricia Nicholson are complaining about it--than some of the other dreck we've seen in the Times (and the New Yorker) lately. It was essentially advertising, which, as you know, is the American media's primary cultural function. A measure of our disillusionment with the mainstream media is that we can be quite pleased simply by the fact that someone is paying any attention at all to the music. --Mike - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Alan Lankin" Subject: Philly -- Andrew Hill Sextet -- Roy Campbell/Wilbur Morris/Lou Grassi -- Sun Ra -- Mark Helias Date: 07 Jun 2001 14:35:39 -0400 Some upcoming gigs of interest: Roy Campbell/Wilbur Morris/Lou Grassi Trio - ars nova workshop (formerly Sweetnighter), Bennie's, 1510 South St, Philadelphia June 11 (Mon) - 8 pm Andrew Hill Sextet Mellon Jazz Festival - Hill's first Philadelphia appearance as a leader in over 40 years. - With tenor saxophonist Aaron Stewart, reedist Marty Ehrlich, trumpeter Ron Horton, bassist John Hebert and drummer Dafnis Prieto. - The African American Museum 701 Arch St, Philadelphia - 215.574.0380 June 14 (Thu) - 7 pm - $20 Sun Ra Arkestra Mellon Jazz Festival - The Fels Planetarium at The Franklin Institute, Winter St & Ben Franklin Pwky (Winter St entrance), Philadelphia - 215.569.9700 June 17 (Sun) - 7 & 9 pm - $22.50 Mark Helias's Open Loose - with Tony Malaby, Mark Helias, Tom Rainey - ars nova workshop (formerly Sweetnighter), Bennie's, 1510 South St, Philadelphia June 18 (Mon) - 8 pm --- Alan Lankin Jazzmatazz http://jazzmatazz.home.att.net http://home.att.net/~lankina/jazz/phillyjazz.html - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Herb Levy Subject: Carl Stone, was Re: Miles and Plunderphonics Date: 08 Jun 2001 00:54:47 -0500 Intriguing subject line, though I don't know of any work by Oswald on something by Davis (though I haven't listened through or read through all of the Plunderphonics set yet, so I could be wrong.) The closest thing I know of is the final section of Carl Stone's Nyala which brings together Miles Davis, Jimi Hendrix, an east Indian (?) singer (at least someone in a kind of Bauls of Bengal style) & one or two other sources. This was released on Em:t, so it's out of print & probably not readily available now. Carl also had a couple of much less interesting (to me, they were at least much less complex than the Nyala work) Miles Davis pieces at an MP3 site a while back. I don't know if they're still around. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arthur Gadney" Subject: Morricone:"Chronicle" Date: 08 Jun 2001 13:02:04 -0000 Hey! The Tzadik website has been updated. Zorn has a new playlist, and quite amazingly, I have actually heard about some of the stuff he mentions. Especially one thing caught my eye: A ten CD boxset of Ennio Morricone's "pop" (!?) music called "Chronicle". This looks absolutely incredible!! Does anybody here own this beauty?? Is it worth the almost 300 US Dollars, or would I be better of buying ten of the original soundtracks by themselves? I'm looking for websites with reviews of it, pictures of the artwork etc. Any help would be great! All I could find was this: http://www.cdnow.com/cgi-bin/mserver/SID=120591444/pagename=/RP/CDN/FIND/album.html/artistid=MORRICONE*ENNIO/itemid=1205659 Man, I was I could spend as much money on CDs as Zorn can! Bye! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CuneiWay@aol.com Subject: Curlew gig in St. Paul Date: 08 Jun 2001 09:16:06 EDT For those of you in the Minneapolis/St. Paul area, CURLEW will be playing: Monday July 9th - 10:30 pm - The Clown Lounge (located in the basement of: The Turf Club) - 1601 University Ave. West (near Snelling) St. Paul Mn 55104 (651) 647-0486 This is the first show by the new lineup of Curlew, and is a "warm up" for their upcomming album. The line up is: George Cartwright - saxophones Fred Chalanor - bass Bruce Golden - drums Chris Parker - piano Davey Williams - guitar soundclips from Curlew's previous albums can be found at: http://www.cuneiformrecords.com/bandshtml/curlew.html Steve F. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: wlt4@mindspring.com Subject: vu "bootleg" series Date: 08 Jun 2001 09:42:49 -0400 The following is from a Universal Music press release (meaning this isn't really a bootleg). Anybody have details? Lang 8/28 * Velvet Underground - Bootleg Series, Vol 1: The Quine Tapes (3cd set) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JonAbbey2@aol.com Subject: Re: vu "bootleg" series Date: 08 Jun 2001 10:05:24 EDT In a message dated 6/8/01 9:43:33 AM, wlt4@mindspring.com writes: << 8/28 * Velvet Underground - Bootleg Series, Vol 1: The Quine Tapes (3cd set) >> no specific details, but I know that Polygram/Universal/whatever large corporation owns the rights to the Velvets material these days has been planning a series of official bootlegs of VY material since the box set was released a few years ago. I also seem to recall that Robert Quine, who ended up Lou Reed's guitarist in the seventies, recorded many VU shows in the late sixties, so I'd guess that's what this is drawn from. Jon www.erstwhilerecords.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: wlt4@mindspring.com Subject: Re: Re: vu "bootleg" series Date: 08 Jun 2001 10:17:24 -0400 >Robert Quine, who ended up Lou Reed's guitarist in the seventies, >recorded many VU shows in the late sixties, so I'd guess that's what >this is drawn from. Now I want a 3-disc box of Robert Quine bootlegs. Waaah! Maybe a CD of "Escape" would do.... - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Scott Handley Subject: Re: Morricone:"Chronicle" Date: 08 Jun 2001 07:21:32 -0700 (PDT) --- Arthur Gadney wrote: > Man, I was I could spend as much money on CDs as > Zorn can! Amen. Rereading the interview with Duckworth in TALKING MUSIC last week, I noticed something that had slipped my attention before: the man paid $50/mo rent up until 1986. What? What?! Sweet deal. \ ----s, casing banks __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Julien Quint Subject: Re: discovering Hans Tammen Date: 08 Jun 2001 03:46:04 +0200 Hi Patrice > A friend played to me ENDANGERED GUITAR by guitarist Hans Tammen (on > Nur/Nicht/Nur). Needless to say, I was quite impressed! I don't remember > this musician being discussed on this list. What else should I get from > him? I'm just coming back from Hans Tammen's concert at le 102 here in Grenoble. The show was scarcely attended, but Hans's performance was very well received. He played two long pieces which I guess are related to his "endangered guitar" work (the guitar looked in danger indeed -- at the after show dinner, we were talking about Derek Bailey's track "George" on the "Play backs" CD where he says that all his guitars are named George, when Hans said that his guitars did not last long enough to be named anything), and a short and very quiet encore. Marvellous stuff indeed, but I didn't get any of his CDs since I think seeing the man perform (with his two amps and his powerbook) had a big part in my liking it. Anyway, besides the CD you mentionned, he was also selling a duet CD on Potlach with a guy playing "hyperpiano", whereas he is credited with "endangered guitar". Sorry about the lack of details -- had too much Chinese liquor at the dinner... I also got a copy of John Oswald's 69Plunderphonics96 from Jerome Noetinger. It looks splendid, with a thick booklet, and of course the music is a must! Jerome told me he had about 50 copies in stock, so European readers may be interested in ordering it from Metamkine. Julien - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JonAbbey2@aol.com Subject: Re: discovering Hans Tammen Date: 08 Jun 2001 11:06:58 EDT In a message dated 6/8/01 11:03:46 AM, julien.quint@imag.fr writes: << Anyway, besides the CD you mentionned, he was also selling a duet CD on Potlach with a guy playing "hyperpiano", whereas he is credited with "endangered guitar". >> that'd be Denman Maroney, one of the more underrated (and best) improv musicians around. Jon www.erstwhilerecords.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Julien Quint Subject: Re: discovering Hans Tammen Date: 08 Jun 2001 18:46:41 +0200 > << Anyway, besides the CD you mentionned, he was also selling a duet CD on > Potlach with a guy playing "hyperpiano", whereas he is credited with > "endangered guitar". >> > > that'd be Denman Maroney, one of the more underrated (and best) improv > musicians around. > > Jon > www.erstwhilerecords.com That's it Jon -- and now I even remember the title of the CD : "Billabong". Julien - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Sweet Subject: Vision Fest outside the NY Times Date: 07 Jun 2001 13:19:11 -0400 One Final Note did a nice job covering the VF last year (http://www.onefinalnote.com/issue3/index.html). They have improved since then--they are emerging as one of the finest journals out there for creative music--and will probably have even better coverage this year. Bob Sweet read Music Universe, Music Mind: Revisiting the Creative Music Studio subscribe to CMS Update http://www.arborville.com Mike Chamberlain wrote: > > A measure of our disillusionment with the mainstream media is that we can be > quite pleased simply by the fact that someone is paying any attention at all > to the music. > > --Mike > > - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RogerHParry@cs.com Subject: ANOTHER 1 2 TRY! Date: 09 Jun 2001 03:31:40 EDT http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio3/jazz/jon3/ram/hes_wil_fell.ram - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arthur Gadney" Subject: Happy WIz Date: 09 Jun 2001 11:36:52 -0000 Hello Info on the band HAPPY WIZ would be interesting. Supposedly they are from France. That's all I know, other than they should be amazing. Anyone heard them? Info info? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alazier@Princeton.EDU (Ariel Joel Lazier) Subject: concerts in germany Date: 09 Jun 2001 10:05:36 -0400 (EDT) does any one know where to find information about upcoming concerts in southern germany, switzerland or austria, especially those closer to munich? ari - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ken Waxman Subject: Re: concerts in germany Date: 09 Jun 2001 16:18:13 -0400 (EDT) Ariel (& others): Go to the excellent European Free Improvisers page: http://www.shef.ac.uk/misc/rec/ps/efi/ click on "upcoming concerts" link and scroll down to concerts in Germany. Ken Waxman --- Ariel Joel Lazier wrote: > does any one know where to find information about > upcoming concerts in > southern germany, switzerland or austria, especially > those closer to > munich? > > ari > > > > - > _______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Perfect Sound Forever Subject: Re: Vision Fest in the NY Times Date: 09 Jun 2001 18:26:30 -0400 At 02:19 PM 6/9/2001 -0600, JonAbbey2@aol.com wrote: >it's easy to complain about the music writing in the Times, but trying to >actually come up with someone they should hire is much more difficult. the >person needs to be a good, insightful writer who lives in NYC and is >willing to cover concerts 3 or 4 nights a week, then write up reviews on a >short deadline, many of which will never run in the paper. it's very hard >to do that for a while, coupled with all of the outside pressures you face >as the Times critic, and not burn out creatively. imagine trying to come >up with something original and/or interesting to say about the Lincoln >Center Jazz Orchestra the tenth time you write about them. Excellent point. Trying to aesthetically enjoy a show while you have to write about it and think of interesting, thought-provoking things to say is a demanding task. Try doing that for ten nights, even for something as high quality as the VF, and you'll see what I mean. Best, Jason Perfect Sound Forever online music magazine perfect-sound@furious.com http://www.furious.com/perfect - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: patRice Subject: Zorn's Top 10 for April 2001 Date: 10 Jun 2001 22:38:13 +0200 Hi y'all... If anyone is interested in the following book Ozuma Kaname "Tattooing", which Zorn lists in his Top 10, here's where you can order it: http://keibunsha.com (Price: US$ 199.-) But BEWARE!!! It is the shittiest company I've ever had to deal with in my whole life, run by the biggest *=3D*=3D/"=E7%=E7**"=E7=E7*"=3D one can imagine... If anyone considers ordering from them and wants to find out more details - contact me privately... "Unfortunately", the paintings shown in that book are VERY good. Ozuma Kaname is a painter who is very highly respected in the tattooing community. patRice np: Depeche Mode, Exciter nr: Horitaka, Bushido - Legacies of the Japanese Tattoo - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "&c." Subject: Radiohead Date: 10 Jun 2001 21:24:02 -0400 I was very impressed by Ok Computer and then Kid A and felt that Radiohead was going somewhere. That's confirmed with Amnesiac. They're leaving behind a lot of the "rock" aspects of their sound and incorporating more free form compositions and of course techno. I've read some nasty reviews of Amnesiac which I think are unfounded. I stayed up until midnight to get a copy of it with my girlfriend at Tower (she's actually the bigger fan, though). I'd like to know if anyone likes the shift in style or feels, as many critics do, that they should revert to the classic Radiohead sound. Zach - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PaanKu@aol.com Subject: Re: Radiohead Date: 10 Jun 2001 22:12:25 EDT oh man. the experimental attitude that radiohead exposed to mainstream rock is what brought me around eventually to john zorn. from radiohead to portishead, from portishead to miles davis, and so on. so called classic radiohead first of all was more a product of their environment than anything else. they were britpop punks when they started out. ok computer totally blew me away, and though theyve left alternative rock almost completely behind, i think it's unfounded to call their more recent sound really surprising or unexpected or much of a total diversion. theres no spontaneous jump from creep to national anthem, ok computer is a perfect transitional album, and the twins (kid a/ amnesiac) are just the next evolution. i love what theyre doing now, theyve freed themselves from the confines of single instruments, theyve removed the pop filters from their fingers and stopped looking to please the commercial public. the best music comes from the players only trying to satisfy themselves. and god, i thought ok computer was a height, totally blew me away, changed the way i even thought about music. wait 3 more years and see what they come up with next. and critics always hate when an established band does something we aren't used to hearing from them. every good band in history was like ripped on when they first showed up. why are we listening to critics now anyway? plus, i think it's fair for us to say that there's no such thing as "the classic radiohead sound." pablo honey was explosive alt.punk, the bends was melodic folkrock, ok computer was, well, ok computer, i think we can all agree on this. im really looking forward to their next few albums, in ten years when they start playing god knows what, critics will be crying "what happened to the jazz savvy technofreaks we've come to know and love?" ~fishy - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tosh Subject: Re: Radiohead Date: 10 Jun 2001 19:15:48 -0700 I like Radiohead, but I don't feel any emotional ties with them or their music. Plus their stuff reminds me of Miles, Robert Wyatt, etc. Plus the Apex Twin - and I think the original sources are much more interesting. Saying that I think their recent records are good - I am just not that knocked out and dragged away with their music. > - > > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "thomas chatterton" Subject: Re: Radiohead Date: 11 Jun 2001 02:56:29 -0000 Supertramp for the 21st Century... _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thomas Choate Subject: Re: Radiohead Date: 10 Jun 2001 20:19:48 -0700 (PDT) i came to radiohead through kid a. my friend was dissing on it so i borrowed it to see what he was talking abuot...then i bought it from him. i like kid a more than Am as of now...but all things need time to grow.... after Kid a i got ok PC. funny...the same guy now loves the album now.. but also intersting, me and his drummer both thought that each of the amnesiac songs were good ideas, but they only took them so far... they could have expanded they ideas farther... but if you knew that band/group of people, then this would be self explaining... they have the same brilliance that has kept fans since ...whenever.. but where are the strange "paranoid android" epics.. of course i have my bitches brew and my progrock side.. speaking of.. is anyone into tool? their latest is a hardcore challenge for radio/pop to get into...full of off rythym and well, toolness. like radiohead, their current location isn't a surprise..they have always been moving... there are some really great moments in lateralus... they cover all the sides of their sound...except without as many segues as before (which isnt bad..just less trying). amor fati, thomas --- "&c." wrote: > I was very impressed by Ok Computer and then Kid A > and felt that Radiohead > was going somewhere. That's confirmed with > Amnesiac. They're leaving > behind a lot of the "rock" aspects of their sound > and incorporating more > free form compositions and of course techno. I've > read some nasty reviews > of Amnesiac which I think are unfounded. I stayed > up until midnight to get > a copy of it with my girlfriend at Tower (she's > actually the bigger fan, > though). I'd like to know if anyone likes the shift > in style or feels, as > many critics do, that they should revert to the > classic Radiohead sound. > Zach > > - > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "marc elzweig" Subject: Re: Radiohead Date: 11 Jun 2001 01:05:18 -0400 radiohead should have stayed exactly as they were with 'the bends' and never changed. change only confuses people. no, as perfect an album as 'the bends' is for what it is (and i do still listen often and genuinely enjoy it), i like where they are now far more. the thoughtfully layered motivic electronic/rock/composition things on 'kid a' consistently floor me, and i'm just getting into 'amnesiac' now. hearing the evolution from one album to the next is nice as well. what amazes me is that they're still as popular as they are, it gives me hope... questions: on the electronica side, what do people hear as influences? i'm not so into that and keep seeing, say, aphix twin refered to. (aphex maybe?) what are good starting points there? ta, marc n.p. amnesiac, naturally. >From: "&c." >To: >Subject: Radiohead >Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 21:24:02 -0400 > >I was very impressed by Ok Computer and then Kid A and felt that Radiohead >was going somewhere. That's confirmed with Amnesiac. They're leaving >behind a lot of the "rock" aspects of their sound and incorporating more >free form compositions and of course techno. I've read some nasty reviews >of Amnesiac which I think are unfounded. I stayed up until midnight to get >a copy of it with my girlfriend at Tower (she's actually the bigger fan, >though). I'd like to know if anyone likes the shift in style or feels, as >many critics do, that they should revert to the classic Radiohead sound. >Zach > >- > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eriedell@aol.com Subject: Re: change Date: 11 Jun 2001 01:35:50 EDT --part1_db.15c25fb2.2855b2b6_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/11/01 12:34:26 AM, Eriedell writes: << In a message dated 6/11/01 12:06:37 AM, godbert@hotmail.com writes: << [whoever] should have stayed exactly as they were with [whatever] and never changed. change only confuses people. >> This is the last place i would've expected to hear something like this. ~eriedell --part1_db.15c25fb2.2855b2b6_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: Full-name: Eriedell Message-ID: <10d.131388c.2855b262@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 In a message dated 6/11/01 12:06:37 AM, godbert@hotmail.com writes: << [whoever] should have stayed exactly as they were with [whatever] and never changed. change only confuses people. >> This is the last place i would've expected to hear something like this. ~eriedell --part1_db.15c25fb2.2855b2b6_boundary-- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dgasque@aol.com Subject: Fire Martyrs/happnings in Atlanta, GA Date: 11 Jun 2001 01:50:33 EDT --part1_d5.792c3f9.2855b629_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thought there might be some interested parties here... << FIRE MARTYRS TOUR 9pm, Friday, June 15th $6 at the door Eyedrum 253 Trinity Avenue, NW 404-522-0655 or www.eyedrum.org Einleitungszeit (Slovakia) - late 80s-sounding industrial/power electronics a la Dissecting Table, Genocide Organ, Maschinenzimmer 412, Sigillum S, Brighter Death Now. Compare to the Cold Meat Industry roster. Skrol (Czech Republic) - dark martial and orchestral bombast-industrial, compare to Laibach, In the Nursery, Le Syndicat, Der Blutharsch. "a Slavic symphony of mayhem." Schloss Tegal (Washington D.C.) - very cinematic dark ambient and hallucinatory power electronics. long-running and well known for nearly 15 years in the noise underground. 5 CDs on labels such as Cold Spring, Noise Museum and Artware with a total of over 12,000 copies sold. Latest CD "Black Static Transmission" reviewed in Outburn Magazine: "A tendency for the atmospheres to sound as if they're being electronically scanned, kind of a sonar blipping responses from the ectoplasm currents at the edge of a formless infinity thought eons dead, but alive everything exists within us all, traces of the limbic mind. Ingenious!" Joe Christ (Atlanta) - experienced underground filmmaker will show a 30 minute video. Depraved gore flicks with a sense of humor, one of his recent efforts featured Genesis P-Orridge. Richard Kern-esque. He's originally from Philadelphia. Ars Morta Universum: www.macabre.cz (Czech/Slovak artists) Interzone Music: www.interzonemusic.com (Schloss Tegal) Upcoming Euphonic Productions June 18th, Mats Gustafsson/Paul Lovens July 1st, Windy & Carl, Landing CANCELLED July 13th, The Flakes August 19th, Triage Earthshaking Music (www.earthshakingmusic.com) 543 Stokeswood Avenue 404-622-3355 or euprod@aol.com tmj/ep ______________________________________________________ |euphonic productions is a not-for-profit organization |dedicated to presenting diverse perspectives in music. * >> --part1_d5.792c3f9.2855b629_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from rly-ye01.mx.aol.com (rly-ye01.mail.aol.com [172.18.151.198]) by air-ye04.mail.aol.com (v78_r3.8) with ESMTP; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 23:14:27 -0400 Received: from maynard.mail.mindspring.net (maynard.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.243]) by rly-ye01.mx.aol.com (v78_r3.8) with ESMTP; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 23:13:53 -0400 Received: from [66.32.77.125] (user-1120jbt.dsl.mindspring.com [66.32.77.125]) by maynard.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA32028; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 23:11:34 -0400 (EDT) User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/9.0.1.3108 Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) FIRE MARTYRS TOUR 9pm, Friday, June 15th $6 at the door Eyedrum 253 Trinity Avenue, NW 404-522-0655 or www.eyedrum.org Einleitungszeit (Slovakia) - late 80s-sounding industrial/power electronics a la Dissecting Table, Genocide Organ, Maschinenzimmer 412, Sigillum S, Brighter Death Now. Compare to the Cold Meat Industry roster. Skrol (Czech Republic) - dark martial and orchestral bombast-industrial, compare to Laibach, In the Nursery, Le Syndicat, Der Blutharsch. "a Slavic symphony of mayhem." Schloss Tegal (Washington D.C.) - very cinematic dark ambient and hallucinatory power electronics. long-running and well known for nearly 15 years in the noise underground. 5 CDs on labels such as Cold Spring, Noise Museum and Artware with a total of over 12,000 copies sold. Latest CD "Black Static Transmission" reviewed in Outburn Magazine: "A tendency for the atmospheres to sound as if they're being electronically scanned, kind of a sonar blipping responses from the ectoplasm currents at the edge of a formless infinity thought eons dead, but alive everything exists within us all, traces of the limbic mind. Ingenious!" Joe Christ (Atlanta) - experienced underground filmmaker will show a 30 minute video. Depraved gore flicks with a sense of humor, one of his recent efforts featured Genesis P-Orridge. Richard Kern-esque. He's originally from Philadelphia. Ars Morta Universum: www.macabre.cz (Czech/Slovak artists) Interzone Music: www.interzonemusic.com (Schloss Tegal) Upcoming Euphonic Productions June 18th, Mats Gustafsson/Paul Lovens July 1st, Windy & Carl, Landing CANCELLED July 13th, The Flakes August 19th, Triage Earthshaking Music (www.earthshakingmusic.com) 543 Stokeswood Avenue 404-622-3355 or euprod@aol.com tmj/ep ______________________________________________________ |euphonic productions is a not-for-profit organization |dedicated to presenting diverse perspectives in music. * --part1_d5.792c3f9.2855b629_boundary-- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RogerHParry@cs.com Subject: Re: Vision Fest in the NY Times Date: 11 Jun 2001 05:07:41 EDT In a message dated 09/06/01 23:30:41 GMT Daylight Time, perfect-sound@furious.com writes: << Trying to aesthetically enjoy a show while you have to write about it and think of interesting, thought-provoking things to say is a demanding task. >> Of course, as Gigi Pidienti, (he is at jatafysikal@hotmail.com) has pointed out in the past, there is another way: exercise the discretion NOT TO 'aesthetically enjoy a show while you have to write about it and think of interesting, thought-provoking things to say'. Best regards Roger P - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PaanKu@aol.com Subject: Re: Radiohead Date: 11 Jun 2001 05:36:48 EDT i just recently got into tool. i was listening to rock radio and i heard stinkfist for teh first time in like years and suddenly i realized that i had no justification for not owning aenema. so i went out and grabbed it and its brilliant, it's hard to find bands in the liek dark/industrial metal genre who really write beautiful complex albums, and aenema is not a singles album any more than lateralus. any 1 song is just an incomplete piece of the whole. schism is to lateralus, i think we can say, what optimistic was to kid a, a modest and misrepresentative sampling. ~fishy - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PaanKu@aol.com Subject: Re: Radiohead Date: 11 Jun 2001 05:40:40 EDT in an interview, thom yorke cited some of radiohead's most prominent and more recent influences to be Can, Kraftwerk, Faust, Olivier Messian, Penderecki and the 13th floor Elevators. i know about as much about these musicians as my grandmother - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JonAbbey2@aol.com Subject: Re: Vision Fest in the NY Times Date: 11 Jun 2001 07:59:33 EDT In a message dated 6/11/01 5:10:32 AM, RogerHParry@cs.com writes: << Of course, as Gigi Pidienti, (he is at jatafysikal@hotmail.com) has pointed out in the past, there is another way: exercise the discretion NOT TO 'aesthetically enjoy a show while you have to write about it and think of interesting, thought-provoking things to say'. >> Roger, ever since you joined this list a few months ago, you continually post statements like this. well, I'd like elaboration on this one. what's your point? are you saying no one should write about music? I don't understand the purpose of this post, or many of your others, for that matter. I feel like sometimes they're implicitly condescending, as if no one else here has ever considered the possibilities you suggest (whoa! adding the words NOT TO to Jason's post make me see things in a whole new light! there's another possible path!) do you think you could enlighten me by answering in English, rather than some pseudo-insightful epigrammatical statement? thanks! Jon www.erstwhilerecords.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stephen Drury Subject: new music in Boston, june 18 - 22 Date: 11 Jun 2001 08:20:25 -0400 A buncha new music in Boston June 18 - 22, all part of New England Conservatory's Summer Institute for Contemporary Piano Performance: Monday, June 18 - Ligeti: Etudes Books I & II, and 3 Pieces for 2 Pianos - Stephen Drury and Yukiko Takagi Tuesday, June 19 - Steffen Schleiermacher plays music by Stockhausen and others Wednsday, June 20 - music by Chinary Ung, Brian Cherney, Mark Applebaum, & Curtis Hughes Thursday, June 21 - Cornelius Cardew: TREATISE & music by Paul Elwood Friday, June 22 - Stockhausen performed by John Mark Harris and Ensemble Sirius All concerts are FREE at New England Conservatory, 290 Huntington Ave. in Boston For more information, go to: http://www.stephendrury.com/SICPP/concerts2001.htm --steve updated info on the Summer Institute for Contemporary Piano Performance at http://www.stephendrury.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andrew Nairn" Subject: Re: Radiohead Date: 11 Jun 2001 13:16:37

I think It is great that such a famous band as Radiohead is turning in the direction they are, It should do good for popular music. But I also think there are many other bands that have been doing what Radiohead is doing now for a while, and have done it better. I am reminded of Spacemen 3, Slowdive, Mogwai, and many other ambient etheral space music. 

Also can anyone tell me where/when I can see John Zorn/Glenn Branca/others live?

thanks,

     Andrew

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From: "marc elzweig"
To: zorn-list@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: Radiohead
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 01:05:18 -0400
radiohead should have stayed exactly as they were with 'the bends' and never
changed. change only confuses people.
no, as perfect an album as 'the bends' is for what it is (and i do still
listen often and genuinely enjoy it), i like where they are now far more.
the thoughtfully layered motivic electronic/rock/composition things on 'kid
a' consistently floor me, and i'm just getting into 'amnesiac' now. hearing
the evolution from one album to the next is nice as well.
what amazes me is that they're still as popular as they are, it gives me
hope...
questions: on the electronica side, what do people hear as influences? i'm
not so into that and keep seeing, say, aphix twin refered to. (aphex
maybe?) what are good starting points there?
ta,
marc
n.p. amnesiac, naturally.
>From: "&c."
>To:
>Subject: Radiohead
>Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 21:24:02 -0400
>
>I was very impressed by Ok Computer and then Kid A and felt that
>Radiohead
>was going somewhere. That's confirmed with Amnesiac. They're
>leaving
>behind a lot of the "rock" aspects of their sound and incorporating
>more
>free form compositions and of course techno. I've read some nasty
>reviews
>of Amnesiac which I think are unfounded. I stayed up until midnight
>to get
>a copy of it with my girlfriend at Tower (she's actually the bigger
>fan,
>though). I'd like to know if anyone likes the shift in style or
>feels, as
>many critics do, that they should revert to the classic Radiohead
>sound.
>Zach
>
>-
>
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- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Scott Handley Subject: Re: Radiohead Date: 11 Jun 2001 07:37:34 -0700 (PDT) --- PaanKu@aol.com wrote: > in an interview, thom yorke cited some of > radiohead's most prominent and more > recent influences to be Can, Kraftwerk, Faust, > Olivier Messian, Penderecki > and the 13th floor Elevators. i know about as much > about these musicians as > my grandmother You and your grandmother should DRONE-ON: http://www.no-fi.com/droneon_faq/ -----s __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pequet@altern.org Subject: Re: Vision Fest in the NY Times Date: 11 Jun 2001 11:02:48 -0400 At 07:59 11/06/01 -0400, JonAbbey2@aol.com wrote: >Roger, ever since you joined this list a few months ago, you continually post >statements like this. well, I'd like elaboration on this one. what's your >point? are you saying no one should write about music? Not that I've been asked, and I would also like to have from the man himself an elucidation of his last posting, but I was under the impression that generally Mr Parry's messages you are referring to, have actually been obstinatedly very focused. 1. someone will make an elitist statement about "how things should be", presenting his views from an authoritative standpoint and as objective (while they aren't) and 2. Mr Parry would step in and say "not necessarily so (think about it)". Benjamin - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Saleski Subject: Re: Radiohead Date: 11 Jun 2001 10:56:56 -0400 i've gotta say that i've never figured out what the big deal was/is with this band. after o.k. computer came out there was tons of press about them and their "groundbreaking" new recording. so, after reading so many articles and after hearing a fairly interesting review on terry gross's "fresh air" radio show, i bought o.k. computer. i still don't see how people can deem them the best rock band in the world. to me, o.k. computer comes across as low-rent king crimson. obviously i'm in the vast minority on this. -- Mark Saleski - marks@foliage.com "Is it so wrong, wanting to be at home with your record collection?" - Nick Hornby - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JonAbbey2@aol.com Subject: Re: Vision Fest in the NY Times Date: 11 Jun 2001 11:05:12 EDT In a message dated 6/11/01 10:57:20 AM, pequet@altern.org writes: << 1. someone will make an elitist statement about "how things should be", presenting his views from an authoritative standpoint and as objective (while they aren't) and 2. Mr Parry would step in and say "not necessarily so (think about it)". >> huh. the statement Jason made which Mr. Parry was commenting on was: <> how the hell is that elitist? it's not even really an opinion, it's pretty much a fact. Jon www.erstwhilerecords.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eriedell@aol.com Subject: Re: Radiohead Date: 11 Jun 2001 12:57:40 EDT In a message dated 6/11/01 10:02:42 AM, marks@foliage.com writes: << i still don't see how people can deem them the best rock band in the world. to me, o.k. computer comes across as low-rent king crimson. >> The mass appeal of Radiohead is Thom York's voice. I love Kc, but belew is rarely as personal as York. That and every now and then Radiohead has the ability to write some really amazing lyrics. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tosh Subject: Re: Radiohead Date: 11 Jun 2001 10:05:07 -0700 on 6/11/01 9:57 AM, Eriedell@aol.com at Eriedell@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 6/11/01 10:02:42 AM, marks@foliage.com writes: > > << i still don't see how people can deem them the best rock band in the > world. to me, o.k. computer comes across as low-rent king crimson. >> > > The mass appeal of Radiohead is Thom York's voice. I love Kc, but belew is > rarely as personal as York. That and every now and then Radiohead has the > ability to write some really amazing lyrics. > > > - > > I agree. Thom York does have an amazing voice, and I think he uses it quite effectively in the music. It is sort of used (the voice) as another instrument in the band. In many ways they remind me of Robert Wyatt. And saying that I like Wyatt much more than Radiohead. -- Tosh Berman TamTam Books http://www.tamtambooks.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PaanKu@aol.com Subject: Re: Radiohead Date: 11 Jun 2001 13:57:21 EDT before we leave the alternative/electronica thread, can somebody suggest a good sonic youth album and stereolab album to introduce myself to them with? - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TagYrIt@aol.com Subject: Re: Radiohead Date: 11 Jun 2001 14:00:31 EDT --part1_69.16901895.2856613f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/11/01 12:59:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Eriedell@aol.com writes: > In a message dated 6/11/01 10:02:42 AM, marks@foliage.com writes: > > << i still don't see how people can deem them the best rock band in the > world. to me, o.k. computer comes across as low-rent king crimson. >> > > The mass appeal of Radiohead is Thom York's voice. I love Kc, but belew is > rarely as personal as York. That and every now and then Radiohead has the > ability to write some really amazing lyrics. > > I've heard all of Radiohead's work, and like then quite a lot in a Pink Floyd sort of way - however, I think most of Radiohead's lyrics are extremely banal. Dale. --part1_69.16901895.2856613f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/11/01 12:59:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
Eriedell@aol.com writes:


In a message dated 6/11/01 10:02:42 AM, marks@foliage.com writes:

<< i still don't see how people can deem them the best rock band in the
world. to me, o.k. computer comes across as low-rent king crimson. >>

The mass appeal of Radiohead is Thom York's voice.  I love Kc, but belew is
rarely as personal as York.  That and every now and then Radiohead has the
ability to write some really amazing lyrics.  


I've heard all of Radiohead's work, and like then quite a lot in a Pink Floyd
sort of way - however, I think most of Radiohead's lyrics are extremely banal.

Dale.
--part1_69.16901895.2856613f_boundary-- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: William Crump Subject: Re: Radiohead Date: 11 Jun 2001 11:43:09 -0700 PaanKu@aol.com wrote: > before we leave the alternative/electronica thread, can somebody suggest a > good sonic youth album and stereolab album to introduce myself to them with? > SY: I'd say start with Daydream Nation, then EVOL, then Sister, then Goo, but my anti-recent-SY bias would be showing. Stereolab: I'd say start with Dots and Loops, then Emperor Tomato Ketchup, then work your way backwards in time. Heavy involvement by John McEntire (Tortoise, Sea & Cake, etc.) and Mouse on Mars on Dots and Loops. William Crump - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Samerivertwice@aol.com Subject: Re: Radiohead Date: 11 Jun 2001 13:12:47 EDT While I'm not a big Radiohead fan, I definitely think they're a good, solid rock band, pretty inventive, and they just ooze charisma. I saw them during the "Creep" tour (1994? 1995?) backing up Soul Asylum and they just kicked major ass. Thom Yorke was an excellent frontman. Plus, Yorke worships Elvis Costello, so he's got a lot going for him taste-wise too. :) Finally, I saw them performing on MTV this past weekend and I found the songs (none of which I had ever heard before) unique and passionately performed. My two cents, Tom In a message dated 6/11/01 1:05:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, tosh@loop.com writes: > on 6/11/01 9:57 AM, Eriedell@aol.com at Eriedell@aol.com wrote: > > > > > In a message dated 6/11/01 10:02:42 AM, marks@foliage.com writes: > > > > << i still don't see how people can deem them the best rock band in the > > world. to me, o.k. computer comes across as low-rent king crimson. >> > > > > The mass appeal of Radiohead is Thom York's voice. I love Kc, but belew > is > > rarely as personal as York. That and every now and then Radiohead has the > > ability to write some really amazing lyrics. > > > I agree. Thom York does have an amazing voice, and I think he uses it quite > effectively in the music. It is sort of used (the voice) as another > instrument in the band. In many ways they remind me of Robert Wyatt. And > saying that I like Wyatt much more than Radiohead. > > > -- > Tosh Berman > TamTam Books ______________________________________________________________________ Phil Spector: "I've been listening to a lot of Andrew Lloyd Webber lately, and enjoying it. Someday I hope to set his stuff to music." - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Scott Handley Subject: David Toop RAP ATTACK question Date: 11 Jun 2001 10:22:41 -0700 (PDT) The only edition of RAP ATTACK I can find in print is RAP ATTACK 3, ISBN #1852426276, June 1999, also referred to as "3rd revision" or "3rd edition". Is this simply a third edition, or is it a third volume in a trilogy? It's the title that's throwing me off. -----s NR: Samuel Delany, DHALGREN; MOJO Magazine (does anyone else kind of like this? I guess this might be a guilty pleasure, but as pop/rock rags go, it's so much better than any American glossy I've read...that doesn't say much, I suppose; I was reminded of this magazine, as the current issue features Radiohead as cover material) NP: Gastr del Sol, CAMOUFLEUR __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Michael=20Gillham?= Subject: HANATARASH - WANTED! Date: 11 Jun 2001 20:15:51 +0100 (BST) HANATARASH - WANTED! 1. 'Worst Selektion' CS (Label?) 2. '1' LP (Alchemy, Japan. CN: ARLP007) 3. '3' LP (RRR, US. CN: ?) 4. '3' CD (RRR, US. CN: RRRCD049) I'm after other titles also, especially cassettes. I'd prefer to buy. Any information would be appreciated. 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Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eriedell@aol.com Subject: Re: Delany (no zorn) Date: 11 Jun 2001 15:29:59 EDT In a message dated 6/11/01 2:13:11 PM, thesubtlebody@yahoo.com writes: << NR: Samuel Delany, DHALGREN >> Wasn't this slammed by critics? I'd be interested in what you think of it. ~eriedell - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arthur Gadney" Subject: Sonic Youth and Stereolab Date: 11 Jun 2001 19:32:58 -0000 >before we leave the alternative/electronica thread, can somebody suggest a >good sonic youth album and stereolab album to introduce myself to them >with? Stereolab: No!, but for Sonic Youth try "NYC Flowers & Ghosts" by far the best they have ever done, and a real masterpiece (not at least thanks to O'Rourke's *incredible* production) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tosh Subject: Re: Radiohead Date: 11 Jun 2001 10:05:07 -0700 on 6/11/01 9:57 AM, Eriedell@aol.com at Eriedell@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 6/11/01 10:02:42 AM, marks@foliage.com writes: > > << i still don't see how people can deem them the best rock band in the > world. to me, o.k. computer comes across as low-rent king crimson. >> > > The mass appeal of Radiohead is Thom York's voice. I love Kc, but belew is > rarely as personal as York. That and every now and then Radiohead has the > ability to write some really amazing lyrics. > > > - > > I agree. Thom York does have an amazing voice, and I think he uses it quite effectively in the music. It is sort of used (the voice) as another instrument in the band. In many ways they remind me of Robert Wyatt. And saying that I like Wyatt much more than Radiohead. -- Tosh Berman TamTam Books http://www.tamtambooks.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: konrad Subject: Wyatt (was Re: Radiohead) Date: 11 Jun 2001 16:05:27 -0400 (EDT) On Mon, 11 Jun 2001, Tosh wrote: > instrument in the band. In many ways they remind me of Robert Wyatt. And > saying that I like Wyatt much more than Radiohead. > What do you think is Wyatt's best (solo) work? I have "Mid Eighties" "Dondestan" (my fave of the three) and "Rock Bottom." I'm wondering if there's anything fantastic that i'm missing. konrad ^Z - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Knutboy@aol.com Subject: Re: David Toop RAP ATTACK question Date: 11 Jun 2001 16:09:14 EDT --part1_10e.1088e36.28567f6a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It's one book, and updated in the third edition. He also wrote the booklet for Tommy Boy's Greatest Beats which is also really interesting. --part1_10e.1088e36.28567f6a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It's one book, and updated in the third edition. He also wrote the booklet
for Tommy Boy's Greatest Beats which is also really interesting. --part1_10e.1088e36.28567f6a_boundary-- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris Selvig" Subject: Sonic Youth and Stereolab Date: 11 Jun 2001 13:18:00 -0700 I recommend "Bad Moon Rising" for sheer alien guitar tonality, and either "EVOL" or "Sister" for a more rockist evolution. "Daydream Nation" is pretty good w/ some fine extended song structures, but I think it's overlong. As for Stereolab, I don't think they're bad, but I have a hard time seeing what the big deal is. -selvig _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benito Vergara" Subject: RE: Sonic Youth and Stereolab Date: 11 Jun 2001 13:25:18 -0700 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-zorn-list@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-zorn-list@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Arthur Gadney > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 12:33 PM > >before we leave the alternative/electronica thread, can somebody > suggest a > >good sonic youth album and stereolab album to introduce myself to them > >with? > > Stereolab: No!, but for Sonic Youth try "NYC Flowers & Ghosts" by far the > best they have ever done, and a real masterpiece (not at least thanks to > O'Rourke's *incredible* production) O'Rourke co-produced Stereolab's "Cobra And Phases Group Play Voltage In The Milky Night ," which is the most Zornlisty of their albums. "Dots and Loops" is a great album, but a cheap intro to Stereolab (and one that seems to sound like the various musical phases of their career) is the "First of the Microbe Hunters" ep. Later, Ben np: love, "forever changes" http://members.tripod.com/~tamad2/ ICQ: 12832406 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Efr=E9n_del_Valle?=" Subject: Re: Wyatt (was Re: Radiohead) Date: 11 Jun 2001 22:22:11 +0200 >What do you think is Wyatt's best (solo) work? I have "Mid Eighties" >"Dondestan" (my fave of the three) and "Rock Bottom." I'm wondering if >there's anything fantastic that i'm missing. Rock Bottom is obviously one of Wyatt's essentials. After recommendation on this list (thanks again), I could strongly recommend "Ruth is Stranger than Richard" and "Schleep". Efrén _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Efr=E9n_del_Valle?=" Subject: Re: Sonic Youth and Stereolab Date: 11 Jun 2001 22:28:25 +0200 before we leave the alternative/electronica thread, can somebody suggest a >>good sonic youth album and stereolab album to introduce myself to them with? you can try anything by Sonic Youth. Everything is just amazing. IMHO, one of the best rock groups ever (in fact, my fav). Some good albums to begin with: "NYC Ghosts& Flowers", "Experimental Jet Set Trash and No Star", "Dirty", "Sister", "Washing Machine", ... buy them all!! Best, Efrén _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pequet@altern.org Subject: Re: Vision Fest in the NY Times Date: 11 Jun 2001 16:45:36 -0400 Jon, At 11:05 11/06/01 -0400, JonAbbey2@aol.com wrote: >huh. the statement Jason made which Mr. Parry was commenting on was: > ><think of interesting, thought-provoking things to say is a demanding task.>> > >how the hell is that elitist? it's not even really an opinion, it's pretty >much a fact. In fact, whether "aesthetical enjoyment" is part of the professional listener / critic's job, is questionable. The professional listener / critic might be expected to write intelligently about things that he may, or may not, like. What he likes or dislikes is a matter of preferences, or opinions, and is irrelevant. Also, at another level: whether or not "aesthetical enjoyment" is part of the professional critic's job may be a matter of preferences, or opinions, on what one considers the function of musical criticism. But, for the sake of clarification, I am certainly not saying that "to enjoy" and "to like" are synonymous, and I am certainly not saying that Jason did either... Now, to answer your post, I never referred to Jason's message specifically, but to Roger Parry's short messages, as I received them over the past few months i.e. with a smile when he reminds us that a biographer's or a musician's performance should perhaps not be measured by the audience's expectations - otherwise known as "wishful thinking" in some benign cases, or "marketing" in more severe ones (an example of which is to be found in this weekend's NY Times article: What New York Deserves in a Jazz Festival, visible at http://www.nytimes.com/2001/06/10/arts/10RATL.html) Benjamin - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marcin Gokieli" Subject: Odp: Delany (no zorn) Date: 11 Jun 2001 22:56:27 +0200 > << NR: Samuel Delany, DHALGREN >> > > Wasn't this slammed by critics? I'd be interested in what you think of it. > ~eriedell I didi not read dhalgren. I did read two short novels by him: 'empire star' and 'enstein intesection'. Bith were very good, especially the former, which includes the best example of late Wittgenstein's theory of meaning in practice (the ways of explaining the word 'plex' - if i remember the translator's comments correctly, as I read the book in polish) . very funny. the other one was also quite impressive. I tried to read recently some book with babel in title, but did not finish it. I did not like it, but I had a french copy of it, and i cannot read english books in french anymore. Marcin Gokieli marcin.gokieli@mospan.pl marcingokieli@go2.pl Generally speaking, if a philosopher offers to 'dissolve' the problem you are working on, tell him to go climb a tree - Jerry Fodor - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Whit Schonbein Subject: Re: stereolab/s.y. (was: radiohead) Date: 11 Jun 2001 16:13:09 -0500 (CDT) PaanKu@aol.com asks: "before we leave the alternative/electronica thread, can somebody suggest a good sonic youth album and stereolab album to introduce myself to them with?" For the s.y., i prefer 'daydream nation', then 'evol', then 'sister', then that one with the hamster on it...it's pink...it's sort of new...it has a song called 'hits of sunshine' on it...the title is escaping me. for stereolab, 'dots and loops' is what turned me onto them. also, i enjoyed their live show from a year or so back. cheers, whit np - library noises - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benito Vergara" Subject: Mojo (Was RE: David Toop RAP ATTACK question) Date: 11 Jun 2001 14:33:18 -0700 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-zorn-list@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-zorn-list@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Scott Handley > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 10:23 AM > NR: MOJO Magazine (does > anyone else kind of like this? I guess this might be > a guilty pleasure, but as pop/rock rags go, it's so > much better than any American glossy I've read...that > doesn't say much, I suppose; I was reminded of this > magazine, as the current issue features Radiohead as > cover material) I decided to subscribe to Mojo after those excellent series of articles on the Smiths and the Pixies recently; since then a book excerpt on "Strange Fruit" and an article on the making of Nirvana's "In Utero" have been well worth the price of subscription. It's a lot more literate than the puff pieces about boy bands and starlets that Rolling Stone and Spin keep cranking out, and a lot less highbrow (and furrowed-brow) than the Wire, for instance. (Mojo's album reviews seem pretty iffy, though.) Later, Ben http://members.tripod.com/~tamad2/ ICQ: 12832406 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dgasque@aol.com Subject: Re: Wyatt (was Re: Radiohead) Date: 11 Jun 2001 18:06:53 EDT In a message dated Mon, 11 Jun 2001 4:11:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, konrad writes: << On Mon, 11 Jun 2001, Tosh wrote: > instrument in the band. In many ways they remind me of Robert Wyatt. And > saying that I like Wyatt much more than Radiohead. > What do you think is Wyatt's best (solo) work? I have "Mid Eighties" "Dondestan" (my fave of the three) and "Rock Bottom." I'm wondering if there's anything fantastic that i'm missing. >> _Ruth Is Stranger Than Richard_ and _Schleep_ are absolutely Wyatt must-haves, IMO. -- =dg= - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eriedell@aol.com Subject: Re: Radiohead Date: 11 Jun 2001 12:57:40 EDT In a message dated 6/11/01 10:02:42 AM, marks@foliage.com writes: << i still don't see how people can deem them the best rock band in the world. to me, o.k. computer comes across as low-rent king crimson. >> The mass appeal of Radiohead is Thom York's voice. I love Kc, but belew is rarely as personal as York. That and every now and then Radiohead has the ability to write some really amazing lyrics. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Olewnick Subject: Re: Delany (no zorn) Date: 11 Jun 2001 18:29:49 -0400 Eriedell@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 6/11/01 2:13:11 PM, thesubtlebody@yahoo.com writes: > > << NR: Samuel Delany, DHALGREN >> Hey, I happen to be re-reading this right now! I read the original back when it first appeared, around 1975, and I remmeber being both fascinated and confused by it. I've since read a decent amount of his stuff (anyone read "Mad Man"? Zorn CD art pales in comparison!) and it's interesting how much "Delany" there is in "Dhalgren" that I didn't pick up the first time. I'm only about a third of the way through its 800 or so pages, but my impression is again of a fascinating world created, though th actions have become a bit banal and everyday. But we'll see. Brian Olewnick NP: Bengt Berger - Bitter Funeral Beer (Finally issued on disc by Euro-ECM!) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brummer, Charlie" Subject: delaney, tool, radiohead, and zorn (surprise!) Date: 11 Jun 2001 17:49:03 -0500 i read "dahlgren" 15-20 years ago....it was intriguing, enigmatic, and at 800 pages, far too long. i suppose there are fans of it's complexity and obfuscatory plot (or non-plot), and it IS interesting in places. afterall, i did make it to the end, which is also the beginning. if i knew then what i know now, i would have read "brothers karamazov" or "absalom, absalom" instead.....now THERE is some real reading. someone mentioned TOOL a while back. i have not been a major fan, but bought "lateralus" based on some reviews and can't stop listening. it's perhaps a guilty pleasure, but i find it compelling listening. much more so than the new radiohead, which seems to just drone on and on. i hope that's because i haven't listened to it enough. that's the downside of buying vast quantities of cds, i guess. ok, to make this a legit post, i saw masada in minneapolis a couple months ago....fantastic show. living in iowa doesn't offer much exposure to live zorn, so maybe i was overly impressed...but i still thought the band played incredibly well. see them, if possible. charlie - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dgasque@aol.com Subject: Re: Radiohead Date: 11 Jun 2001 13:15:56 EDT In a message dated 6/11/01 11:02:42 AM Eastern Daylight Time, marks@foliage.com writes: << i've gotta say that i've never figured out what the big deal was/is with this band. after o.k. computer came out there was tons of press about them and their "groundbreaking" new recording. so, after reading so many articles and after hearing a fairly interesting review on terry gross's "fresh air" radio show, i bought o.k. computer. i still don't see how people can deem them the best rock band in the world. to me, o.k. computer comes across as low-rent king crimson. >> They're the media darlings of the moment. IMO, it's nice to see attention heaped on them instead of yet another teenage boy/girl dance outfit that also happens to open their mouths once in a while. I'll put bands like Djam Karet, Secret Chiefs, Mojave 3, or 5UU's against Tool or Radiohead any day in terms of "groundbreaking", but it shouldn't take away the spotlight from those later bands in being able to release cutting-edge, non-dance music on a major label. Matter of fact, *that's* the real story here. -- =dg= - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gamantyo Hendrantoro Subject: Re: Radiohead Date: 11 Jun 2001 21:27:36 -0400 > From: Mark Saleski > > i still don't see how people can deem them the best rock band in the > world. to me, o.k. computer comes across as low-rent king crimson. Perhaps you should not judge them by only one album. Their next (Kid A, which is their best IMHO) is of a very different style than OK Computer. Regards, Gamantyo - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Smith" Subject: RE: Radiohead Date: 11 Jun 2001 21:30:54 -0400 I don't hear King Crimson in Radiohead at all. To me, 'OK Computer,' which I flat out adored from the first listen (whereas 'Kid A' and "Kid B" are taking a bit more time to absorb), suggested Pink Floyd as led by a very paranoid Jeff Lynne. Steve Smith ssmith36@sprynet.com (still here despite being too busy to say much at the moment...) > From: Mark Saleski > > i still don't see how people can deem them the best rock band in the > world. to me, o.k. computer comes across as low-rent king crimson. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andrew Nairn" Subject: Re: Sonic Youth and Stereolab Date: 12 Jun 2001 02:11:09


 

Most commonly for Stereolab people would recommend Emperor Tomato Ketchup, I also like Dots & Loops. I think It takes alot of listens of steeolab to appricate it more. What a like about it is the mellow sound and the could noises they make, really good electronics, and good sining too. Its fairly standard sounding, but Its good listening.

My favorite Sonic youth is Daydream Nation, but That is the one I,ve listened to the closest. I also would recommend the goodbye 20th century just because there are many cool covers like Steve Reich,s pendelum music. and other experimental composers.

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From: "Chris Selvig"
To: zorn-list@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Sonic Youth and Stereolab
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:18:00 -0700
I recommend "Bad Moon Rising" for sheer alien guitar tonality, and either
"EVOL" or "Sister" for a more rockist evolution. "Daydream Nation" is
pretty good w/ some fine extended song structures, but I think it's
overlong. As for Stereolab, I don't think they're bad, but I have a hard
time seeing what the big deal is.
-selvig
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- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "s/Z" Subject: Butcher In Ventura CA Date: 11 Jun 2001 19:21:57 -0700 John Butcher [Solo] Friday, 8 PM, June 15, 2001 Ventura City Hall Atrium 501 Poli Street, Ventura Admission: $10 Tickets at the door - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gabriel Lichtmann" Subject: RE: Radiohead Date: 11 Jun 2001 23:39:43 -0300 With Radiohead I have never understood what all the fuss was about, especially when it came to "O.K. Computer" and "Kid A" (I liked "Amnesiac" better), they always seemed to me like another good pop rock band, but nothing special apart from Thom Yorkes voice and a tendency to take some risks -although not many. There are so many good bands out there that deserve more credit, I think it all comes up to a tendency amongst rock writers to praise "angst-filled" pop as if it were a sign of maturity or intelligence. The truth is they end up sounding whiny to me. Now Robert Wyatt, there's someone I respect and admire, "Rock Bottom" and "Shleep" are two of my favorite albums of all time. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JonAbbey2@aol.com Subject: Re: Sonic Youth and Stereolab Date: 11 Jun 2001 23:01:29 EDT my favorite Sonic Youth and Stereolab are individual tracks, rather than full records. Metronomic Underground, the first song on Emperor Tomato Ketchup, and Diamond Sea, the epic centerpiece of Washing Machine, are both superb, as is Hits Of Sunshine (For Allen Ginsberg), from A Thousand Leaves. all three have held up remarkably well through dozens and dozens of listenings for me, which I can't say about anything else from either group's catalog. Jon www.erstwhilerecords.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "thomas chatterton" Subject: Re: Wyatt (was Re: Radiohead) Still No Zorn Date: 12 Jun 2001 03:02:29 -0000 > > >What do you think is Wyatt's best (solo) work? Soft Machine V.1 (esp. the amazing stereo drum solo on 'So Boot If At All') Soft Machine V.2 Soft Machine Third ('Moon In June') End Of An Ear Matching Mole 'Little Red Record' np: Bartok Three Village Scenes Boulez NYP _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Skip Heller Subject: Re: Radiohead Date: 12 Jun 2001 20:06:22 -0700 >> From: Mark Saleski >> >> i still don't see how people can deem them the best rock band in the >> world. to me, o.k. computer comes across as low-rent king crimson. > > Perhaps you should not judge them by only one album. Their next (Kid A, > which is their best IMHO) is of a very different style than OK Computer. > > Regards, > Gamantyo > > - > Did I accidentally subscribe to some sort of VH1 list? All this Radiohead is making me wonder. skip heller np: SPILLANE - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "thomas chatterton" Subject: Re: RadioDeadhead Date: 12 Jun 2001 03:08:01 -0000 > > >From: Mark Saleski > > > > >obviously i'm in the vast minority on this. Welcome to the vast minority! Somehow I just know that in 3-4 years used CD stores, and thrift stores for that matter, will be full of Radiohead 'product'... Incidentally, the 'boys in the band' sat down with their label a couple of years back to draw up a 10 year plan to make Radiohead the next Pink Floyd (obviously post D.S.O.T.M.), with a detailed strategy re: promotion, release schedules, musical direction, performance venues, etc. As I said before, this band sure reminds me of Supertramp... np: my grandmother Sorry! Why are we even discussing this band on this list??? _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JonAbbey2@aol.com Subject: Re: Vision Fest in the NY Times Date: 11 Jun 2001 23:21:51 EDT some interesting points, Benjamin, but I still have one major problem with your argument... << whether "aesthetical enjoyment" is part of the professional listener / critic's job, is questionable. The professional listener / critic might be expected to write intelligently about things that he may, or may not, like. What he likes or dislikes is a matter of preferences, or opinions, and is irrelevant. >> do you realize how few critics there are who get paid well for music criticism? even prominent magazines like Signal To Noise and Cadence, to cite two examples, pay nothing to their writers, at least in most cases. if aesthetical enjoyment isn't part of their job, there's not much left. your point seems much more idealistic than realistic. Jon www.erstwhilerecords.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Swelling Subject: Sleepytime Live Date: 11 Jun 2001 21:28:45 -0700 (PDT) Hello Zornatics, Sleepytime Gorilla Museum will be performing with Cortex Bomb in Tucson AZ. Tues June 19th at Solar Culture. Both groups play music you all on this list might enjoy, and if you for some unconceived reason happen to be stuck here in the desert on a tuesday night, i would certainly encourage you not to miss this show. it will be eventful. Some of you may or may not be familiar with Cortex Bomb from our last cd, we have another "Fist or Finger" pretty much done, just finishing the cover art. The new one is less jazz, more filmesque insanity(?). We have posted one song "hello kitty/korn against the machine" from the new cd to our mp3 site, http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/64/cortex_bomb.html check it out immediately or be forever wondering what is is you are missing out on in life *note sarcasm*. to learn more about the upcoming show or about sleepytime gorilla museum (a truely awesome band) visit the mockbrawn link below. bomb "Boycott shampoo! Demand the REAL poo!" ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ m0ckbr4wn-- http://www.mockbrawn.com ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tosh Subject: Re: Mojo (Was RE: David Toop RAP ATTACK question) Date: 11 Jun 2001 22:03:24 -0700 Mojo, over all, is a very good magazine. Good writing and their subject matter is usually interesting - plus it seems that they go out of their way to find unusual photographs, etc. I have been subscribing to Mojo for the past 4 or 5 years and I am rarely disappointed. If one is to nip-pick, I am sure you can find something wrong with them - but overall they have a good sense of direction in what they want to do. It seems that there magazine is rooted for people in their Thirties and over - so it really features good writing and an interesting gasp on music's history, etc. The reviews are so-so, but in the end so what! Best, -- Tosh Berman TamTam Books http://www.tamtambooks.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jim McLoughlin" Subject: RE: Sleepytime Live Date: 12 Jun 2001 02:07:09 -0400 Hi I was off list for the first part of the year, so I'm not sure if SGM has been discussed recently. Just in case... I caught there midnight sat at Tonic Friday accidentally after seeing Marc Ribot's new project _The Crackers_. I was blown away by their show, particularly the precision on all of the home made instruments and dulcimers. It's also quite heavy for you metal fans. The sound was exceptional too - you could hear everything from faint whispers to blaring industrial crunches. After the gig, they were soliciting a NY area gig as one had been cancelled on them, and said "...we've even got our own PA and soundman." "No shit!" was the reaction of the folks I was with. I won't go into the visual aspect. They really have their act together. Just wanted to put in a recommendation in case they come through your town. Jim M - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RogerHParry@cs.com Subject: Re: Vision Fest in the NY Times Date: 12 Jun 2001 04:19:07 EDT In a message dated 11/06/01 20:45:24 GMT Daylight Time, JonAbbey2@aol.com writes: << Subj: Re: Vision Fest in the NY Times Date: 11/06/01 12:59:33 GMT Daylight Time From: JonAbbey2@aol.com To: zorn-list@lists.xmission.com, Roger H Parry In a message dated 6/11/01 5:10:32 AM, RogerHParry@cs.com writes: << Of course, as Gigi Pidienti, (he is at jatafysikal@hotmail.com) has pointed out in the past, there is another way: exercise the discretion NOT TO 'aesthetically enjoy a show while you have to write about it and think of interesting, thought-provoking things to say'. >> Roger, ever since you joined this list a few months ago, you continually post statements like this. well, I'd like elaboration on this one. what's your point? are you saying no one should write about music? I don't understand the purpose of this post, or many of your others, for that matter. I feel like sometimes they're implicitly condescending, as if no one else here has ever considered the possibilities you suggest (whoa! adding the words NOT TO to Jason's post make me see things in a whole new light! there's another possible path!) do you think you could enlighten me by answering in English, rather than some pseudo-insightful epigrammatical statement? thanks! Jon >> 11 June 2001 Dear Jon, No condescension intended - but how I write is a matter only for me! You seek elaboration in a tone that intimates you may feel threatened by the observations occasionally posted by me. The attempt is made using, as ever, that language known as 'English.' Of course, 'elaboration' is not considered by us to be synonymous with 'understanding' or 'communication.' Perhaps you are one who subscribes to the view that a 'word,' once recognised as such, has some inherent absolute meaning rather than being (as we like to think) some thing to which you - as the individual recognising the thing as a word - donate your 'meaning'. My friends and I subscribe to the view - taken consequent upon years of experience - that language is, at best, but an impoverished attempt between individuals to reach some common, mutual understanding of some matter. Misunderstanding is just as likely to be the result of attempts at 'communicating'. Gigi's position, nut-shelled, is this: To secure a future physical environment upon this planet that can continue to support human life (other than at the extremes of unpleasant existence) means that, of our own volition, we will eventually come to 'exercise our discretion not to'. Thus, we will relinquish many of the actions and things that we currently consider essential to our well being. I will not waste time enumerating even one of these. You are familiar with the plethora of 'overlardings' with which we have weighed ourselves down. Gigi extends this proposition to the environment of the imagination, that interior physical process arising within almost every one of us as a consequence of our existence in a physical world of process of which we each have a unique awareness. He foresees the day when individuals may conclude that - being in a state of unique awareness - it may be less damaging to the processes of appreciation in others to let them come to their own conclusions about their own experiences. As a practical illustration, Gigi remembers very well the day, many years ago, when he bought, as a visitor to some remote corner of the State of Washington in the United States of America, an LP record of a performance of the Sibelius Violin Concerto. He recalls that the sleeve note was all or partly written by one Rollo Myers, a noted American 'critic'. Gigi says that he made the error of reading this note before he auditioned the material on the LP. In it there was reference to how a certain part of the music reminded Rollo of a romping polar bear. Now, armed with this image, his capacity to listen to the passage concerned was forever marred. He has never been the same since! He says that Rollo should have exercised his discretion not to say that. On the other hand, Gigi has no problem with Sibelius saying that, or anything else, or with Rollo reporting whatever Sibelius may have said about his concerto (or anything else), good faith between parties being a principal we have adopted for the time being. As a rule of thumb, we like to have information (in a form as objective as it can be) about what has occurred and what is planned to occur, what has been released and what is to be released by way of recordings. We like to listen to a variety of sound-based events both live and recorded. We like to listen in a 'non-linguistic' way for we think that language gets in the way of listening ('deep listening', some might say). We are aware of the physiological differences of process associated with language assimilation (written &/or spoken) and the assimilation of sounds. Those palpabilities, the hemispheres of the brain, could make an entry here. Sounds can, of course, be expressed in language comprehensible or otherwise to a certain listener and thus is their nature determined (from the point of view of internal processing.) The express quotation that initiated your response was: 'aesthetically enjoy... (what, we wonder, would be the 'meaning' you would donate to this term?)[*] ...a show while you have to write about it and think of interesting, thought-provoking things to say'. We hope we have been successful in our elaboration. [*] We have noted and enjoyed the posting (aimed in your direction) of Benjamin on this point in his - Subj: Re: Vision Fest in the NY Times Sender: owner-zorn-list@lists.xmission.com Thanks too, to him for drawing our attention to 'What New York Deserves in a Jazz Festival' by a perspicacious BEN RATLIFF in a recent NY Times. Best regards (yours in pseudo-insightful epigrams) Roger Parry and friends and constant companions [to whom copied] Gigi Pidienti at jatafysikal@hotmail.com [Chez Parry] Henry Oswaldsson at improv_o_king@hotmail.com [Uppsala] P.S. We have noted how you feel about our postings. That is a consequence of your own reactions to what has been posted. We take no responsibility for those. We do not seek to enlighten anyone. However, you could enlighten yourself, perhaps. The purpose of our postings is to provoke (I'm provoking = improv_o_king) responses. Occasionally, as in this case, our purpose has been achieved. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Skip Heller Subject: Re: Vision Fest in the NY Times Date: 13 Jun 2001 01:58:58 -0700 > << Of course, as Gigi Pidienti, (he is at jatafysikal@hotmail.com) has > pointed > out in the past, there is another way: exercise the discretion NOT TO > 'aesthetically enjoy a show while you have to write about it and think of > interesting, thought-provoking things to say'. >> > One of the problems with music journalism is that something that should essentially be music reportage that should let a consumer or potential consumer draw his own conclusions is too often sabotaged by someone feeling the need to prove he can "write". I worked for a bit as a music journalist, and was frequently being lectured by editors about how I let the musicians' quotes take up too much of my articles. I got in even worse trouble by saying, point blank, that critics are a hell of a lot less useful than consumer advocates. I decided after years of having this argument that I was better off making my living as a player than trying to be both a journalist and a reporter. The writers who seem to excel with editors are generally stylized as all get-out and in posession of a viewpoint. Quite often, they have snappy things to say but not always that much deep knowledge about the subject they are purporting to cover. I have too often seen adjectives so perplexing that I had no idea whether or not the critic in question respected the performance. Also, I have seen things written that were just plain wrong, because someone had an elaborate philsophical thesis they had to back up. I shouldn't complain. I've been treated kindly by the people who choose to write about me. But I've seen people I know make fine music only to have it dumped on by a critic who wants to flex some weird muscle that has nothing to do with music (re: Christgau's review of Dave Alvin's last record). And do get the feeling many critics sit there at a show, thinking of some witty shit to write, instead of paying attention to the music. I guess they're thinking about what they'll do when they get to "perform", as if being a critic is on par with being a musician. Trust me -- playing music well is a hell of a lot harder than reporting accurately. I respect anybody who does annything well, but the people I respect the most are the ones who improvise well as a livelihood, whether it be Ryan Stiles or Keith Jarrett or Doc Watson. Personally, I think every critic should study LIFE ON THE MISSISSIPPI by Mark Twain. It's a remarkable document wherein he takes something close to his heart -- steamboat piloting -- and at once captures the magic of it AND takes an intensely technical subject and actually manages to explain it in civilian language, all the while communicating that, beyond the technnique that goes into piloting, there's a certain magic that witholds itself from words. Jazz, for all its technical requirements, needs magic to make it go. Sadly, we have too many critics and not enough Mark Twain's dealing with the subject. skip heller np: Fred Kaz, Eastern Exposure - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rich Williams Subject: Re: Wyatt (was Re: Radiohead) Date: 11 Jun 2001 16:36:46 -0400 >On Mon, 11 Jun 2001, Tosh wrote: > >> instrument in the band. In many ways they remind me of Robert Wyatt. And >> saying that I like Wyatt much more than Radiohead. >> > >What do you think is Wyatt's best (solo) work? I have "Mid Eighties" >"Dondestan" (my fave of the three) and "Rock Bottom." I'm wondering if >there's anything fantastic that i'm missing. His latest, "Schleep" is quite good, and features such diverse musicians as Evan Parker, Paul Weller and Phil Manzanera(whose latest "Vozero" was recorded around the same time, and features Wyatt prominently) I'd also recommend "Ruth is Stranger Than Richard" There's also a new Matching Mole live disc, that I have yet to check out. Rich - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JonAbbey2@aol.com Subject: Re: Vision Fest in the NY Times Date: 12 Jun 2001 08:35:58 EDT In a message dated 6/12/01 4:19:07 AM, RogerHParry@cs.com writes: << He foresees the day when individuals may conclude that - being in a state of unique awareness - it may be less damaging to the processes of appreciation in others to let them come to their own conclusions about their own experiences. >> and.... <> do you see how this might be kind of a silly viewpoint to take on a mailing list devoted to discussing music? <> mission accomplished, my man. congrats! <> and here's another one! it's a successful day for you. once again, congrats! Jon www.erstwhilerecords.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CuneiWay@aol.com Subject: re: Robert Wyatt Date: 12 Jun 2001 08:40:03 EDT >>What do you think is Wyatt's best (solo) work? For me, it's "Old Rotten Hat" that has held up the best & the longest, although I would say that "Rock Bottom" & "Dondestan" give it some pretty good - & maybe even close - runs for the money. Steve F. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?efr=E9n=20del=20valle?= Subject: SY/Stereolab/Pram Date: 12 Jun 2001 15:34:00 +0200 (CEST) HI there, Maybe, even better than all of those Stereolab records are those by Pram, a group that shares lead Stereolab female singer Laetitia Sadier. They are an excellent British pop group (pretty martian all in all). All their albums are recommendable. By the way, Sonic Youth in Barcelona this Wednesday presenting Goodbye XX Century!!! (I got no tickets for Sónar so I'll have to jump the fence!!- and it's risky!!) Regards, Efrén _______________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger: Comunicación instantánea gratis con tu gente - http://messenger.yahoo.es - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?efr=E9n=20del=20valle?= Subject: Fwd: Re: stereolab/s.y. (was: radiohead) Date: 12 Jun 2001 15:40:43 +0200 (CEST) that one with the hamster on it...it's pink...it's > sort of new...it has a > song called 'hits of sunshine' on it...the title is > escaping me. > You mean "A Thousand Leaves". Goes back three years I think. Such a good album too. Greetings, Efrén _______________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger: Comunicación instantánea gratis con tu gente - http://messenger.yahoo.es - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Herb Levy Date: 12 Jun 2001 08:50:00 -0500 Hi y'all, This week Mappings, a weekly new music program on Antenna Internet Radio presents electronic music by Muhal Richard Abrams, Karlheinz Essl, Ron Fein, Kenneth Gaburo, Jonty Harrison, Luc Houtkamp, Alex Keller, Todd Machover, Ilhan Mimaroglu, Toshimaru Nakamura, Steven Naylor, Pauline Oliveros, Matthew Ostrowski, Maggi Payne, Neil Rolnick, Antti Saario, Simon Scardanelli, Denis Smalley, Carl Stone, Morton Subotnick, John Wall. The RealAudio recording went online about 10-11 pm (Greenwich -0800) on Monday night and will remain online for a week. I hope you have a chance to check out the show. Last week's program (featuring music by Wadada Leo Smith) is available in the archives: See you online. Bests, Herb - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuckp8@juno.com Subject: Re: SY/Stereolab/Pram Date: 12 Jun 2001 07:54:22 -0700 On Tue, 12 Jun 2001 15:34:00 +0200 (CEST) =?iso-8859-1?q?efr=E9n=20del=20valle?= writes: > Maybe, even better than all of those Stereolab records > are those by Pram, a group that shares lead Stereolab > female singer Laetitia Sadier. Rosie Cuckston is not with the group any longer? CP. ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: APoesia794@aol.com Subject: cage: cartridge music (off topic) Date: 12 Jun 2001 11:34:09 EDT hi folks. i'm interested to learn more about cage's piece "cartridge music". any hints on finding essays or articles would be great. also if anyone wants to send a brief description of cage's process, that would be greatly appreciated. thanks! j. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?efr=E9n=20del=20valle?= Subject: Fwd: Re: SY/Stereolab/Pram Date: 12 Jun 2001 17:58:47 +0200 (CEST) Maybe, even better than all of those Stereolab > records > > are those by Pram, a group that shares lead > Stereolab > > female singer Laetitia Sadier. > > Rosie Cuckston is not with the group any longer? Your absoultely right! I don't know where I took that from. However, I think that at some point there was some connection between Sadier and Pram. Sorry about disinformation. Greeetings, Efrén _______________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger: Comunicación instantánea gratis con tu gente - http://messenger.yahoo.es - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: cage: cartridge music (off topic) Date: 12 Jun 2001 10:11:56 -0500 On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 11:34:09AM -0400, APoesia794@aol.com wrote: > hi folks. i'm interested to learn more about cage's piece "cartridge music". > any hints on finding essays or articles would be great. also if anyone wants > to send a brief description of cage's process, that would be greatly > appreciated. thanks! j. You might ask this on Silence: The John Cage Discussion List, or check its archives. Go to http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt/Cage You should also check James Pritchett's essential book "The Music of John Cage". -- |> ~The only thing that is not art is inattention~ --- Marcel Duchamp <| | jzitt@metatronpress.com http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt | | Latest CD: Jerusaklyn http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt | | Comma: Voices of New Music Silence: the John Cage Discussion List | - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: konrad Subject: RE: Sleepytime Gorilla Museum Live Date: 12 Jun 2001 12:21:04 -0400 (EDT) On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Jim McLoughlin wrote: > > Just wanted to put in a recommendation in case they come through your town. > FYI interest parties: this is the rest of their tour schedule: Tuesday - June 12th - D.C. - The Black Cat (w/ Uz Jsme Doma) Wed. June 13th - Richmond, VA - Alley Katz (Moe!'s 28th Birthday!!! Eek!!!) Thurs June 14th - Indianapolis, IN- Woodruff Place Town Hall Friday June 15th - Little Rock AR - The Parlor (!) Sun June 17th - Norman OK - The Deli Tuesday June 19th - Tucson, AZ - The Solar Gallery (w/ the Bran) Wed. June 20th - San Diego - Brick by Brick Thursday June 21st - L.A., CA - The Knitting Factory Friday June 22nd - S.F., CA -The Filmore - "Live Nude Bands" Thursday June 28th - Seattle, WA - Crocodile (w/ Uz Jsme Doma) Friday June 29th- Portland, OR - The Crystal Ballroom (w/ Uz Jsme Doma, the Ex, Unwound) Saturday June 30th - S.F., CA - Bottom of the Hill (w/ Uz Jsme Doma) konrad ^Z - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RogerHParry@cs.com Subject: Re: Vision Fest in the NY Times Date: 12 Jun 2001 12:23:13 EDT In a message dated 12/06/01 09:30:02 GMT Daylight Time, stephane.vuilleumier@micro.biol.ethz.ch writes: << The purpose of our postings is to provoke (I'm provoking = > improv_o_king) responses. Occasionally, as in this case, our > purpose has been > achieved. > yeah, but for my taste, you could be more concise in making whatever point you want to make. Not so much provocative as longwinded IMHO >> Excuse my tongue in your humble cheek BUT (as I may well have long-windedly expostulated in a previous posting) it seems to me that what you are saying is - if I were you making that point I would have done it as though you were me. Fortunately, I'm not, nor are you! Subjunctively Best R - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: konrad Subject: OT: Parrying (Was: Vision Fest etc) Date: 12 Jun 2001 12:26:56 -0400 (EDT) Actually i have one question: do you do the anagrams yourself or do you use one of those anagram web sites? On Tue, 12 Jun 2001 RogerHParry@cs.com wrote: > > Best regards konrad ^Z - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RogerHParry@cs.com Subject: Re: Vision Fest in the NY Times Date: 12 Jun 2001 12:36:27 EDT In a message dated 12/06/01 13:37:04 GMT Daylight Time, JonAbbey2@aol.com writes: << to provoke responses >> ...as in the sense of thought-p... best Arnko erstwhile GG&RP - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William York" Subject: two british jazz-related questions Date: 12 Jun 2001 17:44:27 First, thanks to Mr. Parry for posting that link to the Hession-Wilkinson-Fell live performance; those guys 'rock.' Which leads me to my first question, which is I have heard bits and pieces of that group, but was wondering what anyone might recommended as a good album to get. I know they have one on Ecstatic Peace and a couple on Bruce's Fingers ... Anyone? Second, I was flipping through the recent Alternative Press at the newsstand (emphasis on "at the newsstand," ok???, cut me some slack!) and saw mention of an album that included guest appearances by Steve Beresford and Derek Bailey. The album is by a (DJ?) Panic_______ (that's a blank to be filled in by the second part of his name, which I can't remember; Panicmaster, maybe?). The very brief description made reference to a noisier Aphex Twin or something, w/ some improv going on. This type of thing doens't always work but it could be worth tracking down. But does anyone know exactly what it might be called? WY P.S. This statement by Skip Heller is a very wise and very true one (based on my first-hand experience...) "One of the problems with music journalism is that something that should essentially be music reportage that should let a consumer or potential consumer draw his own conclusions is too often sabotaged by someone feeling the need to prove he can "write" .... The writers who seem to excel with editors are generally stylized as all get-out and in posession of a viewpoint. Quite often, they have snappy things to say but not always that much deep knowledge about the subject they are purporting to cover." Amen ... _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?efr=E9n=20del=20valle?= Subject: London venues Date: 12 Jun 2001 19:56:27 +0200 (CEST) Hi everyone! I'll probably be in London in early August. I'd like to know if any listers here can direct me to good venues there and maybe any other good music-related information (fests, shops, etc). Maybe better to contact me off-list for this. Thanks in advance. Best, Efrén _______________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger: Comunicación instantánea gratis con tu gente - http://messenger.yahoo.es - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: Delany (no zorn) Date: 12 Jun 2001 12:08:41 -0500 On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 03:29:59PM -0400, Eriedell@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 6/11/01 2:13:11 PM, thesubtlebody@yahoo.com writes: > > << NR: Samuel Delany, DHALGREN >> > > Wasn't this slammed by critics? I'd be interested in what you think of it. This is my absolute favorite novel. Some find it off-putting, but if you hold on through the first fifty pages or so it gets pretty accessible. Just don't try too hard to figure out what is "really" going on in the book -- part of the point, IMHO, is how one carries on in a world that doesn't make sense. -- |> ~The only thing that is not art is inattention~ --- Marcel Duchamp <| | jzitt@metatronpress.com http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt | | Latest CD: Jerusaklyn http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt | | Comma: Voices of New Music Silence: the John Cage Discussion List | - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James Hale Subject: Re: two british jazz-related questions Date: 12 Jun 2001 14:10:35 +0000 William York wrote: > First, thanks to Mr. Parry for posting that link to the > Hession-Wilkinson-Fell live performance; those guys 'rock.' > > Which leads me to my first question, which is I have heard bits and pieces > of that group, but was wondering what anyone might recommended as a good > album to get. I know they have one on Ecstatic Peace and a couple on Bruce's > Fingers ... Anyone? The main one I know is "Registered Firm" on Incus with guest Joe Morris. It definitely "rocks" as you say, but the sound quality is terrible. Alan Wilkinson is so far up front in the mix that the rest of the band sounds like they're in another room. James Hale - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: Odp: Delany (no zorn) Date: 12 Jun 2001 12:14:12 -0500 On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 10:56:27PM +0200, Marcin Gokieli wrote: > I tried to read recently some book with babel in title, but did not > finish it. I did not like it, but I had a french copy of it, and i > cannot read english books in french anymore. I would imagine translating Babel-17 to be quite difficult, since so much of it hinges on the details of language that the various characters use. -- |> ~The only thing that is not art is inattention~ --- Marcel Duchamp <| | jzitt@metatronpress.com http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt | | Latest CD: Jerusaklyn http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt | | Comma: Voices of New Music Silence: the John Cage Discussion List | - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: Delany (no zorn) Date: 12 Jun 2001 12:21:46 -0500 On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 06:29:49PM -0400, Brian Olewnick wrote: > anyone read "Mad Man"? Zorn CD art pales in comparison! Er, yeah, I felt the need to take a shower every time I read a few pages of it :-~. I have just about all of his books, but don't think I'll be reading that one again much (and I haven't yet tried to read "Hogg"). -- |> ~The only thing that is not art is inattention~ --- Marcel Duchamp <| | jzitt@metatronpress.com http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt | | Latest CD: Jerusaklyn http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt | | Comma: Voices of New Music Silence: the John Cage Discussion List | - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Antonio Martín" Subject: Re: London venues Date: 12 Jun 2001 20:27:35 +0200 Don´t forget to visit The Vortex club. And that it seems very interesting: Sunday 5th August: LONDON IMPROVISERS ORCHESTRA - Red Rose Club, 129 Seven Sisters Road, London N7 large-scale improvisations, conductions & compositions from this long-running all-star collective provisionally to include Simon Fell - Conduction No. 10 Monday 20th August: VHF - Bonnington Centre,11 Vauxhall Grove, London SW8 with Graham Halliwell, Simon Fell, Simon Vincent ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 7:56 PM > Hi everyone! > > I'll probably be in London in early August. I'd like > to know if any listers here can direct me to good > venues there and maybe any other good music-related > information (fests, shops, etc). Maybe better to > contact me off-list for this. > > Thanks in advance. > > Best, > > Efrén > > _______________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Messenger: Comunicación instantánea gratis con tu gente - > http://messenger.yahoo.es > > - > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "M.B." Subject: Re: HOGG/ was Delany (no zorn) Date: 12 Jun 2001 11:30:59 -0700 (PDT) --- Joseph Zitt wrote: > On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 06:29:49PM -0400, Brian > Olewnick wrote: > > > anyone read "Mad Man"? Zorn CD art pales in > comparison! > > Er, yeah, I felt the need to take a shower every > time I read a few pages > of it :-~. I have just about all of his books, but > don't think I'll be > reading that one again much (and I haven't yet tried > to read "Hogg"). > > -- > |> ~The only thing that is not art is inattention~ > --- Marcel Duchamp <| > | jzitt@metatronpress.com > http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt | > | Latest CD: Jerusaklyn > http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt | > | Comma: Voices of New Music Silence: the John > Cage Discussion List | > > > - > Speaking of Hogg, has anyone ever been able to locate a copy of it? I read a great excerpt from a Fiction Collective/Black Ice Books(Great avant lit publishers) compilation who used to publish it, but it has since been out of print for the past two years.... Anyone ever read Doug Rice? (Blood of Mugwump, A Good Cuntboy is Hard To Find) np: thai elephant orchestra __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: wlt4@mindspring.com Subject: Re: Re: HOGG/ was Delany (no zorn) Date: 12 Jun 2001 14:34:36 -0400 >Speaking of Hogg, has anyone ever been able to locate >a copy of it? I read a great excerpt from a Fiction Yep, my local library has a copy. If all you wanted was to read it your library can borrow it through inter-library loan; if you want your own personal copy (and avoid the looks of librarians who may have thumbed through it) there's always out of print searches (best place is bookfinder.com). Lang - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: konrad Subject: From Zappa to Zorn Date: 12 Jun 2001 15:07:27 -0400 (EDT) Thanks to all for the Wyatt dope. Has anyone ever heard Zorn pundits or Zorn himself make a (more than passing) connection between his music and Zappa's? There are so many FZ pieces off the orchestral/collage/synclavier albums and guided improvs the Mothers of Invention did in the 60s that remind me a lot of Zorn's cartoon/pastiche esthetic. konrad np: Filthy Habits ^Z - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "s/Z" Subject: Braxton & Lindberg Queries Date: 12 Jun 2001 12:13:05 -0700 Anyone have opinions about LINDBERG, THE JOHN ENSEMBLE A Tree Frog Tonality or BRAXTON QUINTET, ANTHONY (Basel) 1977 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Patrice L. Roussel" Subject: VIBES - KNITSAMPLER, ever came out? Date: 12 Jun 2001 12:31:07 -0700 Does anybody know if the following sampler ever came out: *** - VIBES - KNITSAMPLER: various artists This record features DJ Spooky, Graham Haynes, Sex Mob, Liminal Lounge, Zohar, Pachora, William Hooker/DJ Olive, Friends of Dean Martinez, Gary Lucas, Operazone, Rashied Ali and Louie Belogenis, John McLaughlin, Roswell Rudd, Thomas Chapin. 2000 (?) - Knitting Factory Records (USA), ??? (CD) It was advertized at the time the KF was in deep financial trouble. Thanks, Patrice. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeffcalt@aol.com Subject: Re: VIBES - KNITSAMPLER, ever came out? Date: 12 Jun 2001 15:35:11 EDT yup, i picked it up in the cheap bins. some interesting stuff. proussel@ichips.intel.com writes: > Does anybody know if the following sampler ever came out: > > *** - VIBES - KNITSAMPLER: various artists - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: William Crump Subject: Re: HOGG/ was Delany (no zorn) Date: 12 Jun 2001 12:44:06 -0700 "M.B." wrote: > Speaking of Hogg, has anyone ever been able to locate > a copy of it? I read a great excerpt from a Fiction > Collective/Black Ice Books(Great avant lit publishers) > compilation who used to publish it, but it has since > been out of print for the past two years.... Borders in Memphis carried the Black Ice edition just after it came out. It's unlikely to be there anymore, but you never know. William Crump - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Olewnick Subject: Re: Braxton & Lindberg Queries Date: 12 Jun 2001 18:16:25 -0400 s/Z wrote: > > Anyone have opinions about > BRAXTON QUINTET, ANTHONY (Basel) 1977 A superb recording, imho. If you can't get a hold of the Dortmund disc and don't want to wait 'til hat re-releases it, definitely pick this up. Pick it up anyway--just a smoking group. The concluding 40B kills and ranks up there with Brax's best. Brian Olewnick NP: Erik M - Frame - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt Teichman Subject: Re: Radiohead Date: 12 Jun 2001 20:10:28 -0400 Where do you hear Miles Davis in Radiohead? >Plus their stuff reminds me of Miles, Robert Wyatt, etc. Plus the >Apex Twin - and I think the original sources are much more interesting. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "s/Z" Subject: Re: Braxton & Lindberg Queries Date: 12 Jun 2001 17:42:48 -0700 >>>A superb recording, imho. If you can't get a hold of the Dortmund disc<<< Well, Dortmund is one of my all time favorites, so if this is more of the same, that's fine by me. Anyone heard the Lindberg? I've not picked up anything since Relative Reliability, another of my all time favorites. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dan Given Subject: Re: Braxton & Lindberg Queries Date: 12 Jun 2001 18:29:09 -0700 > From: "s/Z" > Subject: Braxton & Lindberg Queries > > Anyone have opinions about > > LINDBERG, THE JOHN ENSEMBLE A Tree Frog Tonality Very good. Interesting compositions, great playing from all -- Ochs reminds me of Braxton a bit too much in places, but Wadada Leo Smith is in fine form. Lindgerg is his usual virtuosic self, can't remember who's on drums. Dan Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping! http://www.shopping.altavista.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Smith" Subject: Lindberg (plus Gress and Threadgill teasers) Date: 12 Jun 2001 22:38:12 -0400 Haven't heard the Lindberg in question, but while we're on the subject, Lindberg's longtime group with guitarist James Emery, the String Trio of New York, is back after a period of inactivity and/or lower profile. They recently recorded a new disc live at the Jazz Standard, for release on OmniTone sometime not too far off. The new violinist is Todd Reynolds, who should prove an interesting match - he's a downtown "new music" specialist who I know more from the avant-classical side of things, but not too long ago I heard him ripping shit up live with Gregg Bendian's Mahavishnu Project. Should be good. I note that the recording was to include a new piece written for the Trio by Dave Douglas. Unrelated, but another fine bassist, Drew Gress, has just put out a new disc on the Premonition label (distributed by Blue Note!). It's called 'spin & drift' and the band features Tim Berne, Uri Caine and Tom Rainey. Look for that one at a nice store near you. Gress doubles on pedal steel guitar, which I know will turn some folks way on. I also got an advance today of a new Threadgill Make a Move CD due out in September on a new label, but I'll tell you more about that one later... One thing, though - no accordion or harmonium, but vibraphone... Steve Smith ssmith36@sprynet.com NP - Vornado in the window, bzzz, bzzzz... - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Gannushkin Subject: Gress Live (was: Lindberg (plus Gress and Threadgill teasers)) Date: 12 Jun 2001 23:27:48 -0400 Hello Steve, Tuesday, June 12, 2001, you wrote to me: SS> Unrelated, but another fine bassist, Drew Gress, has just put out a new disc SS> on the Premonition label (distributed by Blue Note!). It's called 'spin & SS> drift' and the band features Tim Berne, Uri Caine and Tom Rainey. Look for SS> that one at a nice store near you. Gress doubles on pedal steel guitar, SS> which I know will turn some folks way on. I just want to add that this quartet will present new CD at Tonic on next Tuesday, June 19 in double set with Trio Tragico - Ron Miles (trumpet), Drew Gress (bass) & Andy Biskin (clarinet). -- Best regards, Peter Gannushkin e-mail: shkin@shkin.com URL: http://www.downtownmusic.net/ - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jason tors Subject: james emery Date: 12 Jun 2001 23:30:56 -0400 I was totally taken by surprise with his recent effort Luminous Cycles. Does anyone have any info regarding his past projects? I know that steve mentioned the string trio of new york, anything else? Looking forward to drew gress' release! _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jason tors Subject: [found] james emery Date: 12 Jun 2001 23:44:40 -0400 http://wwww.allaboutjazz.com/iviews/jemery.htm -just answering my own questions _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: Delany (no zorn) Date: 12 Jun 2001 22:26:38 -0500 BTW, I just saw a very good review of Dhalgren at http://www.scifiweekly.com/issue216/classic.html On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 12:08:41PM -0500, Joseph Zitt wrote: > On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 03:29:59PM -0400, Eriedell@aol.com wrote: > > > > In a message dated 6/11/01 2:13:11 PM, thesubtlebody@yahoo.com writes: > > > > << NR: Samuel Delany, DHALGREN >> > > > > Wasn't this slammed by critics? I'd be interested in what you think of it. > > This is my absolute favorite novel. Some find it off-putting, but if > you hold on through the first fifty pages or so it gets pretty > accessible. Just don't try too hard to figure out what is "really" > going on in the book -- part of the point, IMHO, is how one carries on > in a world that doesn't make sense. > > -- > |> ~The only thing that is not art is inattention~ --- Marcel Duchamp <| > | jzitt@metatronpress.com http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt | > | Latest CD: Jerusaklyn http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt | > | Comma: Voices of New Music Silence: the John Cage Discussion List | > > > - -- |> ~The only thing that is not art is inattention~ --- Marcel Duchamp <| | jzitt@metatronpress.com http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt | | Latest CD: Jerusaklyn http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt | | Comma: Voices of New Music Silence: the John Cage Discussion List | - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tosh Subject: Re: HOGG/ was Delany (no zorn) Date: 12 Jun 2001 21:48:44 -0700 For those hard to find books try www.abebooks.com or bookfinders.com Ciao, -- Tosh Berman TamTam Books http://www.tamtambooks.com > > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tosh Subject: Re: Radiohead Date: 12 Jun 2001 21:53:19 -0700 on 6/12/01 5:10 PM, Matt Teichman at mft4@cornell.edu wrote: > Where do you hear Miles Davis in Radiohead? > I think the arrangements are very 'Sketches of Spain.' Of course, keep this mind that this is a very SUBJECTIVE viewpoint! > > - > > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andrew Nairn" Subject: kobe/osaka noise shows? Date: 13 Jun 2001 04:54:43

I'm in Japan now near Kobe and Osaka until July 2nd, and I'm trying to find some noise rock show. Like Boredoms, Eye, or Merzbow. Does anybody know of any web sites or venues I could check out.

thanks

   -andrew


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- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JonAbbey2@aol.com Subject: Re: two british jazz-related questions Date: 13 Jun 2001 01:43:45 EDT In a message dated 6/12/01 1:45:28 PM, william_york@hotmail.com writes: << Second, I was flipping through the recent Alternative Press at the newsstand (emphasis on "at the newsstand," ok???, cut me some slack!) and saw mention of an album that included guest appearances by Steve Beresford and Derek Bailey. The album is by a (DJ?) Panic_______ (that's a blank to be filled in by the second part of his name, which I can't remember; Panicmaster, maybe?). ... does anyone know exactly what it might be called? >> www.shef.ac.uk/misc/rec/ps/efi/labels/flo/flo013.html regarding Hession/Wilkinson/Fell... <> I think they have four CDs, three of which I've heard, none of which I was crazy about. easily my favorite Wilkinson on disc is his duo on Incus with Stefan Jaworzyn, In a Sentimental Mood. as for Fell, whose range of styles is Braxtonesque, I'm a much bigger fan of his quieter projects, like IST and VHF. I sincerely hope that the opinions expressed in this post do not "forever mar" any listening experiences Roger Parry, any of his pseudonyms, or anyone else reading this may have. Jon www.erstwhilerecords.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Oger Subject: New Potlatch releases Date: 13 Jun 2001 07:54:54 +0200 New Potlatch releases (apologies for the promotional nature of this message) : - "Au Ni Kita" - by "Misere et cordes" a french quartet of guitarists : Pascal Battus, Emmanuel Petit, Dominique Repecaud and Camel Zekri. Recorded in 1999. English liner notes by Keith Rowe. (Potlatch 101) - "The contest of pleasures" by Trio John Butcher (saxophones), Xavier Charles (clarinet) and Axel Dorner (trumpet). Recorded live at Mulhouse festival in august 2000. English liner notes by Dan Warburton. (Potlatch 201) - "Nouvelles" - Solo CD by Jean-Marc Foussat (famous french sound engineer who is playing analog synthe + tapes and miscellaneous objects). English liner notes by Fred Frith. (Potlatch 301) Best regards, Jacques OGER Potlatch New website : http://www.potlatch.fr - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Emmanouil Papagiannakis Subject: SY live Date: 13 Jun 2001 11:34:37 +0200 (MEST) To contribute to the recent talk on SY, I just saw them live last night and the night before I saw a trio of Moore,O'Roorke, Winant. The trio performance first: it was an event in the frame of Holland festival with several people performing in a relatively small theater in De Balie in Amsterdam. They started very quietly, creating a mesmerising atmosphere with very slowly developing themes. In a really great way the room was slowly being filled with guitar sound, not noise just sound. Winant made great use of his percussion setup. The climax was a really impressive full power blast. Last night at Paradiso, the "rock" concert of SY, who appeared as a sextet, augmented by Winant and his percussion set. Having seen them twice in the last 3 years i was hesitating about going there. Oh, I am glad I did!!! This was the SY I had always expected to see on stage. Somehow in the past they seemed a bit held back, not releasing the beast in them. Yesterday though, I was completely blown away. They really went for it, all the way to the stratosphere. They started with late material in a very noisy fashion, with all the essential feedback and drumstick-on-the-guitar, guitar-on-the-floor, etc tricks, to then go back to some old classics that still today sound so fresh... They didnt forget to go through more psychedelic part, with a piece from "a 1000 leaves" (sorry forgot the title), to come back for an encore in the exact mood of SYR3 with Kim on trumpet (using it to play the guitar most of the time). They also seemd to have a really great time, with Thurston crawling on stage, Jim sitting on his back etc. I the sound surprisingly good and even at its loudest peaks was clear enough to catch the details. Simply amazing. Can't wait to say goodbye to the 20th century tonight!!! manolis - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?efr=E9n=20del=20valle?= Subject: Fwd: Braxton & Lindberg Queries Date: 13 Jun 2001 12:53:37 +0200 (CEST) > > Anyone have opinions about > > LINDBERG, THE JOHN ENSEMBLE A Tree Frog Tonality Such a good album. Not as edgy as I expected but from the middle section of the record on it really takes-off. The performers are all in excellent shape, specially Smith and Lindberg himself, IMHO -maybe is personal predilection, don't know. Someone asked about the drummer: it's Andrew Cyrille. I'll always like "Bounce" much more. Regards, Efrén _______________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger: Comunicación instantánea gratis con tu gente - http://messenger.yahoo.es - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?efr=E9n=20del=20valle?= Subject: Fwd: From Zappa to Zorn Date: 13 Jun 2001 13:02:35 +0200 (CEST) > Has anyone ever heard Zorn pundits or Zorn himself > make a (more than > passing) connection between his music and Zappa's? I have never read anything in this regard by Zorn. Just a mention Zappa & the Mothers in the Spillane album liner notes (if I'm not wrong) but just a passing. I think that more than a direct relation between the two composers, they shared many common influences, being Varése and Stravinsky some of the most commented. In fact, I heard a gossip that was supposed to have Zorn criticize Zappa when the former presented Masada in Barcelona. He was supposed to have talked about Primus despectively (they played the same day as his quartet)connecting them to Zappa in such a negative way. Just a gossip anyway. Greetings, Efrén _______________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger: Comunicación instantánea gratis con tu gente - http://messenger.yahoo.es - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Rosenstein" Subject: Re: Hession-Wilkinson-Fell Date: 13 Jun 2001 08:13:35 -0400 >William York wrote: > > > First, thanks to Mr. Parry for posting that link to the > > Hession-Wilkinson-Fell live performance; those guys 'rock.' > > > > Which leads me to my first question, which is I have heard bits > > and >pieces of that group, but was wondering what anyone might > > recommended >as a good album to get. Probably my two favorites are: Bogey's (Bruces Fingers) -- I remember getting this on cassette when it was first released and being blown out of my chair by it. The recording quality is OK (I haven't heard the CD so I don't know if they cleaned it up any) but the playing is relentless. The Horrors of Darmstadt (Shox) -- The title says it all. Another live CD that really blow through like a hurricane. Michael Rosenstein _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Rosenstein" Subject: Re: Lindberg Queries Date: 13 Jun 2001 08:18:06 -0400 >Anyone have opinions about > >LINDBERG, THE JOHN ENSEMBLE A Tree Frog Tonality I really like this a lot. Lindberg's compositions are strong, but what really makes it for me is Leo Smith's playing. He has really been on a roll lately and I have found that he adds a real depth to the music. Not, of course to slight Ochs or Cyrille who all fit together with a taught balance. Michael Rosenstein _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RogerHParry@cs.com Subject: DON BYRON's 'EUGENE' Date: 13 Jun 2001 10:18:44 EDT Can anyone point me in the direction of information on the subject piece, incl any recording released. Thankls in advance... Roger Parry - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RogerHParry@cs.com Subject: Re: two british jazz-related questions Date: 13 Jun 2001 10:18:29 EDT In a message dated 13/06/01 06:45:23 GMT Daylight Time, JonAbbey2@aol.com writes: << I sincerely hope that the opinions expressed in this post do not "forever mar" any listening experiences Roger Parry >> Let me assure you, JonAbbey, that Roger Parry will value each one of your multiple opinions whenever broadcast, as so frequently they are, to precisely the same degree as he will all others' opinions, past, present and future. Best regards R - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: konrad Subject: Re: From Zappa to Zorn Date: 13 Jun 2001 11:48:34 -0400 (EDT) Hi Efr=E9n, you wrote, > I think that more than a direct relation between the > two composers, they shared many common influences, > being Var=E9se and Stravinsky some of the most > commented. Yes that makes sense. I think Zorn's musical universe (in my limited exposure) tends to be 'arty' and 'serious' in a way that would have drawn Zappa's scorn. Zappa's dada gestures are comical, light hearted and even silly and Zorn's seems to relate more to 'cathartic' energy and yet somehow remain cool (hearted). Somehow i don't think Zorn ever feels the need to entertain, as Zappa does (even if it's only entertaining himself). Zorn's avant gardism is more of a philosphy. I'm not trying to pidgeon-hole them! By 'dada' above i just refer to a quality of absurdism in their music, which is not to value it or devalue it in any way -- it's just a kind of exhuberance i'm trying to identify. > In fact, I heard a gossip that was supposed to have > Zorn criticize Zappa when the former presented Masada > It doesn't surprise me of that kind of thing between these two, who to me overlap in quite precise, and possibly competative ways. There was the ancient bad blood between FZ and Lou Reed/VU as well, and Zappa had few good words for anyone alive except Nicholas Slonimsky, so i doubt he said anything interesting about Zorn, if he payed attention at all. konrad ^Z - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Samerivertwice@aol.com Subject: Re: From Zappa to Zorn Date: 13 Jun 2001 11:55:16 EDT Whether Zorn is currently influenced by Zappa I don't know (it's doubtful), but I have read interviews where he cites Zappa as an early influence. Tom ______________________________________________________________________ Phil Spector: "I've been listening to a lot of Andrew Lloyd Webber lately, and enjoying it. Someday I hope to set his stuff to music." - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom Gatzen Subject: Re: From Zappa to Zorn Date: 13 Jun 2001 09:09:08 -0700 (PDT) It's probably because their last names end with Z that they turned out to be great artists. They had more time to create while they were waiting to be called on in school. Another possible piece of the puzzle???? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Vincent Kargatis / Anne Larson" Subject: Euro festivals Date: 13 Jun 2001 19:12:59 +0300 I'm in Athens Greece. What European music festivals (featuring list-relevant - in the broad sense - music) should I know about, from the current date onwards? Links to specific info/schedules would be handy. thanky. -- Vincent Kargatis NP: Greg Kelley - TRUMPET - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: William Crump Subject: Re: From Zappa to Zorn Date: 13 Jun 2001 10:11:49 -0700 Some time in the last couple of years, Zorn did a lecture/Q&A if I recall correctly, and it was reported here on the list that he called FZ's Uncle Meat the "best album ever." Even taking JZ's penchant for hyperbole into account, that's pretty fannish. (And hard to argue with, IMHO.) William Crump - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?efr=E9n=20del=20valle?= Subject: Fwd: Euro festivals Date: 13 Jun 2001 19:20:20 +0200 (CEST) > > What European music festivals > (featuring > list-relevant - in the broad sense - music) should I > know about, from the > current date onwards? Links to specific > info/schedules would be handy. The one I'd like to attend the most is Jazz em Agosto, in Portugal. I think I can provide a website address for that. Let me check at home. Some names of last year's edition (from the top of my head): Anthony Braxton, Misha Mengelberg, Han Bennink, Peter Brötzmann, Bruno Chevillon, Ellery Eskelin... and the list went on! Regards, Efrén _______________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger: Comunicación instantánea gratis con tu gente - http://messenger.yahoo.es - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: konrad Subject: Re: From Zappa to Zorn Date: 13 Jun 2001 14:02:03 -0400 (EDT) On Wed, 13 Jun 2001, William Crump wrote: > he called > FZ's Uncle Meat the "best album ever." Even taking JZ's penchant for > hyperbole into account, that's pretty fannish. (And hard to argue with, > IMHO.) Meaning it was FZ's best album ever? That's _easy_ to argue with, but i don't know if there'd be a clear winner. Best collage album? Maybe that'd be easier to defend. The orchestral pieces that came out of the late Mothers and 200 Motels period (UMeat was before that), like Pedro's Dowry and Bogus Pomp are a "movie for your ears" (or "music for your eyes") kind of thing. While not strictly in Zorn's sense of Musical Optics, i think the whole program/cartoon/pastiche approach was really FZ's strength carried on with the sense of the theatrics of performance (some might say hamming it up) that came through Varese, Stockhausen, Cage, and from his early success playing the bicycle on the Steve Allen's show. I realize that Zorn's lineage is more 'downtown' and Zappa's is more 'garage band' but what i like in common is this theater aspect. konrad ^Z - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William York" Subject: Re: From Zappa to Zorn Date: 13 Jun 2001 18:09:25 For fear of starting another pro- vs. anti-Zappa thread (please don't let it happen), here are the things I have noticed/read/observed regarding connections between the two: -Zorn has mentioned listening to Zappa when he was growing up in the sixties, after getting into rock with the Doors, Beatles, but then quicly geting into "the weird stuff." -Zorn mentions Zappa on a positive note in the Spillane liner notes, both the original and the reissue. -Zorn also said something like "he was really special" in the JazzTimes interview from a year and a half ago, although he also made a point of saying how the two were different (well, one way that the two were different), in that Zorn didn't have the motivation or interest to go after all the political issues as Zappa. -someone on the list a while back mentioned seeing Zorn at a questionnaire-type session in NYC and Zorn said that _Uncle Meat_ was Zappa's best (the more I listen to it, the more I tend to agree, but that's another story...) -I do think Lumpy Gravy or even Greggary Peccary (which I really don't enjoy) could be considered precursors to "Spillane" and "Godard" in at least some small sense, and I think someone else on the list has mentioned this, even if there are some pretty fundamental differences, too. I need to listen to it again, but I could have sworn I heard some little sample from "Greggary Peccary" in "Godard" -- Billy the Mountain laughing, very briefly. >There was the ancient bad blood between FZ and Lou Reed/VU as well Not to mention VU/Lou Reed FANS vs. Zappa fans ... but I think this problem w/ the musicians originally came up in part because they were on the same record label at the time, and even had the same producer, Tom Wilson. >Zappa had few good words for anyone alive except Nicholas Slonimsky, so >i >doubt he said anything interesting about Zorn, if he payed attention >at >all. I doubt he was even familiar with Zorn, since he didn't pay much attention to new music from what I gather. But I do remember reading him (Zappa) praising Mr. Bungle at some point. (Although, despite the misconception, there are far fewer connections between Mr. Bungle and Zappa than between Zappa and Zorn). Also, Zappa had few good words about many living people in music at all, unfortunately, whether in rock or classical. BUT, he had a lot of nice things to say about Pierre Boulez, for one, who is certainly in the "art world" (as opposed to entertainment). Being a once-obsessive fan (in various stages of recovery) of Zappa, Zorn, VU, and Mr. Bungle, I keep track of this stuff, which is why I still remember specific wordings and such. I have problemes, I know. WY P.S. thanks for the Fell/Wilkinson/Hession recommendations. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: konrad Subject: Re: From Zappa to Zorn Date: 13 Jun 2001 14:24:34 -0400 (EDT) On Wed, 13 Jun 2001, William York wrote: > For fear of starting another pro- vs. anti-Zappa thread (please don't let it Oh shit: i didn't know that was possible (or historically a pastime) on this list. I CERTAINLY don't want to enter into that either. What a waste of electricity! > Also, Zappa had few good words about many living people in music at all, > unfortunately, whether in rock or classical. BUT, he had a lot of nice > things to say about Pierre Boulez, for one, who is certainly in the "art > world" (as opposed to entertainment). Although IIRC the liner notes for the half Boulez-conducted album (The Perfect Stranger) explicitly state that it is NOT "art." Thanks for your thoughts, Will. konrad ^Z - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William York" Subject: Re: two british jazz-related questions Date: 13 Jun 2001 18:34:06 <> >www.shef.ac.uk/misc/rec/ps/efi/labels/flo/flo013.html Ah, Panicstepper. Thank you. I looked around more and found the label page, which in part says this: "...influenced by such disperate elements as the New York downtown scene (Zorn, DNA…), Hip Hop, Digital Hardcore, Motown, Parliament/Funkadelic, and the Japanese Now Wave movement (Boredoms, Melt Banana, Merzbow…)...." An MP3 is at and it doesn't sound so minblowing, but that could be b/c my computer sound system is so impossibly screwed up ... WY _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: From Zappa to Zorn Date: 13 Jun 2001 12:45:20 -0500 On Wed, Jun 13, 2001 at 09:09:08AM -0700, Tom Gatzen wrote: > It's probably because their last names end with Z that > they turned out to be great artists. They had more > time to create while they were waiting to be called on > in school. I certainly hope that that is true :-) -- |> ~The only thing that is not art is inattention~ --- Marcel Duchamp <| | jzitt@metatronpress.com http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt | | Latest CD: Jerusaklyn http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt | | Comma: Voices of New Music Silence: the John Cage Discussion List | - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DvdBelkin@aol.com Subject: Re: From Zappa to Zorn Date: 13 Jun 2001 15:16:13 EDT In a message dated 6/13/01 2:02:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time, konrad@panix.com writes: > I realize that Zorn's lineage is more 'downtown' and Zappa's is more > 'garage band' but what i like in common is this theater aspect. Don't know to what extent this was a conscious influence, but in this respect I can hear some Ives behind both of 'em. David - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: patRice Subject: Re: From Zappa to Zorn Date: 13 Jun 2001 23:08:46 +0200 William York wrote: > > Being a once-obsessive fan (in various stages of recovery) of Zappa, Zorn, > VU, and Mr. Bungle, I keep track of this stuff, which is why I still > remember specific wordings and such. I have problemes, I know. > LOL - don't worry about it, William! Some people would give a lot to have the same kind of memory as you!!! ;-) patRice np: Missing Persons, Rhyme & Reason (BTW: They are doing a reunion tour with the original line-up of Bozzio/Bozzio/Cuccurullo/(O'Hearn) this summer! Cuccurullo quit Duran Duran - who will also do a reunion tour with the complete original line-up - Rhodes/LeBon/Taylor/Taylor/Taylor) nr: Haruki Murakami, Sputnik Sweetheart - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: stephen.fruitman@idehist.umu.se (Stephen Fruitman) Subject: New Skopelitis Recording Date: 14 Jun 2001 11:28:54 +0200 (MET DST) A new record featuring guitarist Nicky Skopelitis is available on a Greek label, M Records (website ). It=B4s a trio effort called _Ou= r Trip So Far: Thessaloniki, New York, Istanbul_, and also features reed player Floros Floridis and Okay Temiz on percussion and "electronic pyramid" (?). A real Levantine mish-mash, very much its own thing - great sense of fun and inventiveness - maybe a distant cousin to Hellborg/Buckethead/Shrieve=B4s _Octave of the Holy Innocents_, but with woodwinds and electricity? Regards, Stephen Stephen Fruitman Dept of Historical Studies Ume=E5 University SE-901 87 Ume=E5 Sweden - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Blechmann Subject: Re: Euro festivals Date: 13 Jun 2001 22:56:44 +0200 not very close to greece, but highly interesting is the jazzfestival saalfelden (www.jazzsaalfelden.at). I haven't seen their actual program yet, but in the last few years it was great. PEACE Tim mailto:TimBlechmann@gmx.de ICQ: 96771783 http://nav.to/timblech NP: Erik M - Frame WE - Decentertainment NR: William S Burroughs - The Western Lands - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Emmanouil Papagiannakis Subject: Goodbye 20th Century Date: 14 Jun 2001 14:57:17 +0200 (MEST) 3rd and final night of SY in Holland, with a fantastic performance based on SYR4... If you thought the record was good (or very good as I did), go see them!!! Amazingly nice performance, totally coherent and inspired. In the city theater of Amsterdam, a very nice setting, full of people of diverse styles and ages who seemd to really enjoy the event. Amazing to have this big, old styled theater filled with SY's massive sound. Nice lighting also. They played Cage (Six, Four.Six, the latter with help of locals Cor Fuhler and Ab Baars), K. Boehmer's Echelon, Yoko Ono's scream trilogy, Terney's "having never written a note for percussion", a piece by George McKane(?) called "Carpenter piece" which was mainly nailing the keys of a piano, a C. Wolff a C.Cardew a Higgins and a S.Reich piece. Sadly no pendulum. Plus a couple of their pieces, incl. a fiery version of "NYC ghosts and flowers". A small discussion was organised after the concert with T.Moore, L.Ranaldo, J. O'Roorke, W. Winant, K. Boehmer about the tour, the music the composers, etc. Pretty interesting even though a better prepared interviewer would have made it better. Highlights from the discussion: >guy from the public: You live in NYC, where also John Zorn lives. Where you ever asked to participate in one of his game pieces? >TM: Well, John is a very nice guy ...(blah blah)... he asked me once to participate in a game piece but I told him: "John, I dont play games." At some other point, while discussing reaction from the public to their 20th Century concerts, TM said that often the public just yells old song titles. And Jim went further saying that they will keep playing this until the public starts asking them for different pieces of John Cage. All in all, after 3 nights in a row of SY experience, tonight I will miss them. Efren; jump fences, crawl under them, dig a tunnel. Just be there!!! manolis - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Revue des Fossiles" Subject: Igor Wakhevitch Date: 14 Jun 2001 07:35:16 -0700 Could someone please confirm that Igor Wakhevitch is still alive and well, and if so what he has been up to since 1979's "Let's Start?" Thanks in advance - RdF. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Pierre=20Toussaint?= Subject: Zorn on Zappa Date: 14 Jun 2001 12:41:51 -0400 (EDT) Hi, I was writing a paper on Zorn and what I call is political aesthetic so I read a lot of interviews and stuff. Anyway, here's all I know of Zorn on Zappa. From Bill Milkowsi (2000) One future, Two Views. Conversations with Wynton Marsalis and John Zorn. Jazztimes (march). p. 28-35, 118-121. Q: You've traveled a lot with Masada and spread the word by taking the music to the people, much in the same way that Frank Zappa spread his own message. A: Zappa was a very special person. He was very articulate; he really cared about politics. He had a lot of things going for him. I can't step in Zappa's shoes. I'm not politically aware. I don't read newspapers; I don't read magazines; I don't watch television. So I have no idea. Zappa was on top of everything, man. He was really amazing. I'm not really an articulate, politically minded, forward thinking person with goals that wants the world to be this way or that way. I'm not an interesting interview in that regard. I wish I was. I wish there was someone who could be there in Zappa's place. I'm not the guy. For me it's more about doing things than babbling about it. (...) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "M.B." Subject: Re: HOGG/ was Delany (no zorn) Date: 14 Jun 2001 10:10:13 -0700 (PDT) --- Tosh wrote: > For those hard to find books try www.abebooks.com or > bookfinders.com > > Ciao, > > > -- > Tosh Berman > TamTam Books > http://www.tamtambooks.com Thanks for the links, luckily I found a copy under $50 with shipping included. Now if I could only find the original Joan O'Brien novel "The Day The Clown Cried" based off the Lewis film. Does anyone have any book recs within a similar vein as Hogg or equally disturbing on a multitude of levels? Thanks __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. http://buzz.yahoo.com/ - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: William Crump Subject: Re: HOGG/ was Delany (no zorn) Date: 14 Jun 2001 10:20:29 -0700 "M.B." wrote: > Does anyone have any book recs within a similar vein > as Hogg or equally disturbing on a multitude of > levels? Delany's "Equinox" (originally published in the late 60s as "Tides of Lust") is pretty disturbing. It was reissued a few years ago by RhinocEROS. If you've read Delany's memoir, this is the book he worked on only while sexually excited, even the parts other than the sex scenes. William Crump - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tosh Subject: Re: HOGG/ was Delany (no zorn) Date: 14 Jun 2001 10:30:24 -0700 > Does anyone have any book recs within a similar vein > as Hogg or equally disturbing on a multitude of > levels? > > Thanks > Boy don't get me started! First of all I think Zorn's current list of his favorite reads are really good. For instance, I loved the Raymond Roussel biography. Fascinating wacky (and great writer - of course most everything by him is out-of-print) personality. I would also like to recommend someone who is actually very popular but I feel that she doesn't get the credit she deserves - and that's Patricia Highsmith. Her work is totally amoral creepiness. And of course anything by Georges Bataille (Story of the Eye - my personal favorite of his) and works by Patrick Hamilton. Very disturbing insight into the British working class during the WW2 years. J.G. Ballard's Crash is another great. And if I may give myself and TamTam Books a little plug: Serge Gainsbourg's Evguenie Sokolov and Boris Vian's I Spit on Your Graves. -- Tosh Berman TamTam Books http://www.tamtambooks.com > > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: wlt4@mindspring.com Subject: Re: Re: HOGG/ was Delany (no zorn) Date: 14 Jun 2001 15:11:48 -0400 > Does anyone have any book recs within a similar vein > as Hogg or equally disturbing on a multitude of > levels? Other than the Burroughs, Sade, Celine, Genet, etc lineage? How about: Iain Banks - The Wasp Factory Iain Sinclair - Downriver Rochester - poetry Denis Johnson - Jesus' Son David Thomson - Suspects some people are big on Ian McEwan and Kathy Acker but I've found them to be of little interest - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "M.B." Subject: Re: Re: HOGG/ was Delany (no zorn) Date: 14 Jun 2001 12:22:25 -0700 (PDT) --0-1804289383-992546545=:12768 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. http://buzz.yahoo.com/ --0-1804289383-992546545=:12768 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Received: from [199.177.59.174] by web13205.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 12:21:58 PDT In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Length: 1021 --- wlt4@mindspring.com wrote: > > Does anyone have any book recs within a similar > vein > > as Hogg or equally disturbing on a multitude of > > levels? > > Other than the Burroughs, Sade, Celine, Genet, etc > lineage? How about: I'm already familiar with those authors, my favorite out of that list being Celine.... > > Iain Banks - The Wasp Factory I actually just finished this book a few months ago. The brutal scenes of animal cruelty bothered me quite a bit. The kite scene also left me uneasy. > Iain Sinclair - Downriver > Rochester - poetry > Denis Johnson - Jesus' Son > David Thomson - Suspects > > some people are big on Ian McEwan and Kathy Acker > but I've found them to be of little interest > Not familiar with the above. I tried reading Acker in HS. Tried a few segments of Blood and Guts in HS here and there, it just didnt do anything for me.. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. http://buzz.yahoo.com/ --0-1804289383-992546545=:12768-- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "s~Z" Subject: Re: Re: HOGG/ was Delany (no zorn) Date: 14 Jun 2001 12:24:43 -0700 William T. Vollmann - The Royal family - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jason tors Subject: Re: Re: HOGG/ was Delany (no zorn) Date: 14 Jun 2001 15:27:47 -0400 --============_-1219575624==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Cant forget about Rick Moody, his writing about modern lives is quite touching and disturbing. I just finished Denis Johnson's first novel, angels, a very mature work, full length novel of some tragic americans filled with wonderfully written imagery of the mundane. Another one to check out is Jerzy Kosinski's Steps. > > Does anyone have any book recs within a similar vein >> as Hogg or equally disturbing on a multitude of >> levels? > >Other than the Burroughs, Sade, Celine, Genet, etc lineage? How about: > >Iain Banks - The Wasp Factory >Iain Sinclair - Downriver >Rochester - poetry >Denis Johnson - Jesus' Son >David Thomson - Suspects > >some people are big on Ian McEwan and Kathy Acker but I've found >them to be of little interest > > > >- --============_-1219575624==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: Re: HOGG/ was Delany (no zorn)
Cant forget about Rick Moody, his writing about modern lives is quite touching and disturbing. I just finished Denis Johnson's first novel, angels, a very mature work, full length novel of some tragic americans filled with wonderfully written imagery of the mundane. Another one to check out is Jerzy Kosinski's Steps.

> Does anyone have any book recs within a similar vein
> as Hogg or equally disturbing on a multitude of
> levels?

Other than the Burroughs, Sade, Celine, Genet, etc lineage?  How about:

Iain Banks - The Wasp Factory
Iain Sinclair - Downriver
Rochester - poetry
Denis Johnson - Jesus' Son
David Thomson - Suspects

some people are big on Ian McEwan and Kathy Acker but I've found them to be of little interest



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--============_-1219575624==_ma============-- _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: patRice Subject: Re: HOGG/ was Delany (no zorn) Date: 14 Jun 2001 21:41:13 +0200 wlt4@mindspring.com wrote: >=20 > > Does anyone have any book recs within a similar vein > > as Hogg or equally disturbing on a multitude of > > levels? >=20 To be honest, I haven't read anything by Hogg - wasn't even familiar with the name... But I did finy Bret Easton Ellis' "American Psycho" quite disturbing to read. After about two thirds into the book I seriously asked myself why I kept on reading... patRice np: k. d. lang, Ing=E9nue (sp?) nr: Haruki Murakami, Sputnik Sweetheart (which I wouldn't describe as disturbing, but it nevertheless has made me think, think, think...) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?efr=E9n=20del=20valle?= Subject: Fwd: Goodbye 20th Century Date: 14 Jun 2001 22:42:00 +0200 (CEST) All in all, after 3 nights in a row of SY > experience, tonight I will miss them. > Efren; jump fences, crawl under them, dig a tunnel. > Just be there!!! > > manolis Thanks a lot for encouraging!! Unfortunately, I wasn't able to go at last (a Simultaneous Interpreting exam changed its schedule for tomorrow morning!) A pity according to your review. Even worse, I didn't know that they had gone on tour with O'Rourke and Winant. Within an hour, these guys will be destroying Barcelona's techno freaks'ears.(i hope so) Thanks god they come really often. I hope Fantomas will compensate my disaster next month. Anybody saw them live? Greetings, Efrén np: Ali Farka Toure "Niafunké" (not too impressed so far) n.r: Allen Ginsberg "Death and Fame: Poems 1993-1997" _______________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger: Comunicación instantánea gratis con tu gente - http://messenger.yahoo.es - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Neil H. Enet" Subject: Yuka Honda Date: 14 Jun 2001 16:54:15 -0400 Wasn't she supposed to release an album through Tzadik? Did she realease it already? (I can't seem to find it in www.tzadik.com) Neil H. Enet ------------ NP. 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WY (Sorry ... but TM and his cool-guy persona are such easy targets. He's done a lot of good things for free/jazz music, but it is too bad he can't take himself a bit less seriously. At least Zorn will allow himself to play games now and then.) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim Flannery Subject: Re: HOGG/ was Delany (no zorn) Date: 14 Jun 2001 21:18:44 -0700 "M.B." wrote: > > equally disturbing on a multitude of levels? Some of Kathe Koja's stuff, especially _Strange Angels_. -- Jim Flannery newgrange@sfo.com "It's no bed of roses, let me tell you, being a mutant." -- Warren Dearden np: 23 Skidoo, _The Culling is Coming_ nr: James Elkins, _The Domain of Images_ - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marcin Gokieli" Subject: Odp: VIBES - KNITSAMPLER, ever came out? Date: 14 Jun 2001 20:14:47 +0200 ----- Original Message ----- > It was advertized at the time the KF was in deep financial trouble. It's not anymore? - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marcin Gokieli" Subject: Odp: From Zappa to Zorn Date: 14 Jun 2001 19:04:27 +0200 > > Has anyone ever heard Zorn pundits or Zorn himself > > make a (more than > > passing) connection between his music and Zappa's? In an interview JZ did for polish jazz mag 'jazz forum' some 5 years ago, he said that zappa and beefheart are people that interest him in rock (Coleman and Elllington in jazz, Varese and stravinsky in classical) I remember him saying very good things on early mothers, treating them as one of the best beands ever - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?efr=E9n=20del=20valle?= Subject: SY Lost Tracks Date: 15 Jun 2001 12:53:20 +0200 (CEST) Hi everyone! I've owned Sonic Youth's "Lost Tracks" album for many years now but the other day I was just wondering through which company they released it. Unfortunately, my copy (at least) doesn't feature any credits (company, distributor, liner notes, recording date...). Anybody knows where this record came from? BTW, I seize the opportunity to recommend it. Thanks. Greetings, Efrén P.D: Still regretting not attending the SY concert yesterday. _______________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger: Comunicación instantánea gratis con tu gente - http://messenger.yahoo.es - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "M.B." Subject: A Chance Operation Date: 15 Jun 2001 06:36:35 -0700 (PDT) Hello- Is the John Cage Tribute "A Chance Operation" worthy of purchase? I'm mainly curious about the Yoko Ono track "Georgia Stone" but it looks like it has a pretty good representation of artists... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. http://buzz.yahoo.com/ - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: A Chance Operation Date: 15 Jun 2001 09:35:47 -0500 On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 06:36:35AM -0700, M.B. wrote: > Is the John Cage Tribute "A Chance Operation" worthy > of purchase? I'm mainly curious about the Yoko Ono > track "Georgia Stone" but it looks like it has a > pretty good representation of artists... I like the collection a lot. It's a good introduction to a lot of Cage's work and to the artists on it. And "Georgia Stone" is my single favorite Yoko recording. -- |> ~The only thing that is not art is inattention~ --- Marcel Duchamp <| | jzitt@metatronpress.com http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt | | Latest CD: Jerusaklyn http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt | | Comma: Voices of New Music Silence: the John Cage Discussion List | - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ben Axelrad" Subject: supersilent 5 Date: 15 Jun 2001 11:03:43 -0500 Hi, Can anyone offer a brief review of Supersilent 5? I don't know if this is necessary since most people on this list seem to despise ECM, but I feel I should warn against the Trygve Seim release, "Different Rivers". It's a very nice disc, but unfortunately it doesn't deviate from the traditional ECM fare. I was hoping that the presence of Arve Henriksen (Supersilent) and Stian Carstensen (Farmers Market) signalled a new direction for their jazz recordings. Regarding the discussion on disturbing books, the most disturbing book I have read has got to be Peter Sotos' _Tick_ (or was it _Pure_?). It's a mix of sadism, kiddie porn, and (just a little) art criticism interspersed with newspaper clippings about people arrested for abusing children. A very depressing read. Ben np: Joe McPhee, In the Spirit nr: Goethe, Faust _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Patrice L. Roussel" Subject: Re: Odp: VIBES - KNITSAMPLER, ever came out? Date: 15 Jun 2001 09:20:44 -0700 On Thu, 14 Jun 2001 20:14:47 +0200 "Marcin Gokieli" wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Patrice L. Roussel > > > It was advertized at the time the KF was in deep financial trouble. > > It's not anymore? Since they are still around, the "deep" can be omitted for the moment. Patrice. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Patrice L. Roussel" Subject: unbelievable: CHALLENGE reissed!!! Date: 15 Jun 2001 09:28:42 -0700 Martin Davidson just sent the list of upcoming records on his label, and I have barely recovered. Three with Evan Parker, including the reissue of the mythic CHALLEGE (with extra material including Parker!). Patrice. Available around June 26: SPONTANEOUS MUSIC ENSEMBLE Challenge (1966-7) EMANEM 4053 The long overdue reissue - the first since 1966! - of the first SME LP reveals their free jazz roots with only hints of what was to come. KENNY WHEELER (flugelhorn), PAUL RUTHERFORD (trombone), TREVOR WATTS (alto sax), BRUCE CALE (double bass) and JOHN STEVENS (drums) improvise on pieces by Rutherford, Stevens & Watts. (JEFF CLYNE replaces Cale on a couple of tracks.) In addition there is a previously unissued performance from 1967 by TREVOR WATTS (piccolo & alto sax), EVAN PARKER (soprano sax), CHRIS CAMBRIDGE (double bass) and JOHN STEVENS (drums). Reissue of Eyemark EMPL 1002 with extra material. 67 minutes. HOWARD RILEY TRIO verground (1974-5) EMANEM 4054 Graphic scores interpreted by pianist Riley with BARRY GUY on amplified bass and TONY OXLEY on percussion and electronics. Recorded a year or two after SYNOPSIS (EMANEM 4044), these two sessions reveal further developments, ending up with all three musicians using electronics. As well as three trio performances, there is also a Riley/Oxley duet, and an overdubbed two-piano piece. 68 minutes - previously unissued. EVAN PARKER The Ayes Have It (1983 & 1991) EMANEM 4055 Two performances by one-off groups, both featuring EVAN PARKER (saxophones) and PAUL ROGERS (double bass). There is a 1983 trio studio recording with percussionist JAMIE MUIR, and a 1991 quartet gig with percussionist MARK SANDERS and visiting trombonist WOLTER WIERBOS. Both sessions are quite unlike anything else in the Parker canon. 68 minutes - previously unissued. CHRIS BURN ENSEMBLE The Place 1991 EMANEM 4056 A concert performance by the eight-piece group, with JIM DENLEY (flutes), JOHN BUTCHER (saxophones), PHIL DURRANT (violin), STEVIE WISHART (violin & hurdy-gurdy), MARCIO MATTOS (cello), JOHN RUSSELL (guitar), MATT HUTCHINSON (synthesizer) and CHRIS BURN (piano & percussion). They interpret three scores by Burn, and one each by Butcher and Keith Rowe, as well as performing a free improvisation. EVAN PARKER is an added guest on one of the Burn pieces. 72 minutes - previously unissued. SYLVIA HALLETT White Fog (1998-2001) EMANEM 4057 Three aspects of this remarkable musician's work: Wheelsongs is a 6 minute cycle featuring four original songs appearing within an improvised setting created solely with bowed bicycle wheel and digital delays. There is also a violin and voice improvisation (without any electronics), and a tape collage soundtrack made for a dance film. 64 minutes - previously unissued. Emanem 4025 & 4026 are being repressed. This means that all Emanem CDs will then be available, except for 4004 which will be reissued later this year. See www.emanemdisc.com for further details. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: aaron chua Subject: Eye Yamantaka in Melbourne Date: 15 Jun 2001 22:42:24 -0700 (PDT) pardon the promotional nature of this post, but for those interested there will be a gig TOMORROW ie Sunday 17 th June at REVOLVER(229 Chapel st Prahran). Eye + curse ov dialect + the bearded ladies DJs Xonk & Kwokenzocker 8pm start $8 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. http://buzz.yahoo.com/ - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Edgar=20Lee?= Subject: James Chance Date: 16 Jun 2001 16:30:59 +1000 (EST) I'm usually in Australia, however, for the last 2 months I've been in the U.S.A, including the last 2 weeks in New York. Over that period I've had the pleasure of seeing Joe Maneri perform one heck of an amalgam of modern classical meets Brooklyn cool, Other Dimensions in Music showing that their style of bebop colliding with ecstatic style is pre eminement, a beuatifully spirital set by JoeMc Phee occasianally marred by his rhythm section trying to be superheroes, Yo La Tengo showing that even though they'd Like to be cool free jazzers have no idea, Masada although being slowed down by their reliance on reading from charts become one heck of a live act purely through Joey Baron's incredibly diverse drumming and even better smiles, Sexmob's fun cover versions despite Steve Bernstein's lame dwarf jokes, and a beautiful set by Daniel Carter at DMG. However, this was partly spoiled by a lame set by James Chance at the Knit. James was big in Australia for a while in the late 70s and was responsibe for turning a few heads to Ayler, Coleman and James Brown. However, this was one of the lamest and stupidest gigs I've been to in a while. James tried but the band was leaden, stodgy and stank. I'm looking forward to Bruce Gallanter's birthday bash at the DMG this Sunday evening to recover from this deep funk. Edgar _____________________________________________________________________________ http://messenger.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Messenger - Voice chat, mail alerts, stock quotes and favourite news and lots more! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ryan B." Subject: Taylor book Date: 16 Jun 2001 02:27:38 -0700 I just finished Graham Lock's book and loved it. Is there a book out there on Cecil Taylor's music and/or life that's worth recommending? Ryan - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RogerHParry@cs.com Subject: James Chance Date: 16 Jun 2001 05:52:14 EDT This is an extract from the play, 'Zornlist' now (mid-June, 2001) running at= =20 the Internet Theatre. HENRY ('scouse' English): Absolutely! Yer abserlewtly right, like! Absolutel= y! EDGAR (with a 'strine' accent and ignoring Henry): I'm usually in Australia= =E2=80=A6 HENRY: Ah, how fare the aboriginal persons of that benighted State? EDGAR (rightly ignoring Henry): However, for the last two months I've been i= n=20 the USA=E2=80=A6 HENRY: Ah, that land of the gurney for your final judicial journey!=20 EDGAR (ignoring sarcastic Henry): Including the last two weeks in New York.=20 HENRY: Coelum non animum mutant, qui trans mare courant. EDGAR (ignoring exhibitionist Henry): Over this period I've had the pleasure= =20 of seeing=E2=80=A6 HENRY: Funny, don't you think, how some individuals speak of 'seeing' when=20 they are speaking of a sensory experience predominantly intended to be=20 assimilated for its sound content? EDGAR (ignoring pretentious Henry): Joe Maneri perform one heck of an amalga= m=20 of modern classical meets Brooklyn cool=E2=80=A6 HENRY: Wow! How did he look? And don't you just love those categories?! Now=20 there's a couple here to toy with over the years, coming to other terms for=20 them! JonAbbey'll love it! =20 EDGAR (ignoring snide Henry): Other Dimensions in Music showing that their=20 style of bebop colliding with ecstatic style is pre-eminent=E2=80=A6 HENRY: Two more categories, one with style! Who else, one wonders royally an= d=20 rhetorically, might have that 'style of bebop colliding with ecstatic style'= =20 against which we could measure the extent of this pre-eminence that you have= =20 found. EDGAR (ignoring superior Henry): a beautifully spiritual set by Joe McPhee=20 occasionally marred by his rhythm section trying to be superheroes=E2=80=A6 HENRY: And no one likes superheroes, do they, 'cept infants, maybe?=20 EDGAR (ignoring boring Henry): Yo La Tengo showing that - even though they'd= =20 like to be cool free jazzers - they have no idea=E2=80=A6 HENRY: Absolutely! You are absolutely right! Absolutely!=20 EDGAR (ignoring repetitive Henry): Masada, although being slowed down by=20 their reliance on reading from charts, become one heck of a live act purely=20 through Joey Baron's incredibly diverse drumming and even better smiles=E2= =80=A6=20 HENRY: Such poesy! '=E2=80=A6diverse drumming and even better smiles=E2=80= =A6' EDGAR (ignoring lyrical Henry): Sexmob's fun cover versions despite Steve=20 Bernstein's lame dwarf jokes HENRY: Oh! How I, myself being one, especially in the brains department,=20 would love to hear a lame dwarf joke!=20 EDGAR (ignoring humorless Henry): and a beautiful set by Daniel Carter at DM= G. HENRY: Absolutely! You are absolutely right! Absolutely! EDGAR (ignoring exasperating Henry): My stay was partly spoiled by a lame se= t=20 by James Chance at the Knit... =20 HENRY (aside): You takes your chance and... EDGAR (ignoring this mumbling Henry): James was big in Australia for a while= =20 in the late 70s and was responsible for turning a few heads to Ayler, Colema= n=20 and James Brown.=20 HENRY: For which I forgive him. EDGAR (ignoring magnanimous Henry): However, this was one of the lamest and=20 stupidest gigs I've been to in a while.=20 HENRY: There's much limping afoot here, methinks! EDGAR (ignoring punning Henry): James tried but the band was leaden, stodgy=20 and stank. HENRY: Absolutely! You are absolutely right! Absolutely! EDGAR (ignoring Henry completely): I'm looking forward to Bruce Gallanter's=20 birthday bash=E2=80=A6 HENRY: Please do give the gentleman, with whom I have the pleasure to be=20 acquainted, all my very best wishes on the occasion of this anniversary of=20 his birth. EDGAR: I most certainly will, at the DMG this Sunday evening=E2=80=A6 HENRY: That should help you to recover from this deep funk. EDGAR: True, blue! (they embrace) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RogerHParry@cs.com Subject: Re: unbelievable: CHALLENGE reissed!!! Date: 16 Jun 2001 10:00:41 EDT In a message dated 15/06/01 17:38:48 GMT Daylight Time, proussel@ichips.intel.com writes: << Martin Davidson just sent the list of upcoming records on his label, and I have barely recovered. >> Perhaps it is global warming, but the recent deluge from Emanem, that seems happily set to continue and through which I doggedly continue to wade, has brought me, a man of Stirner stuff, inter alia, 'Fixations (14).' This is a record of some of John Butcher's recent peregrinations. He's a man of brilliant technical playing ability admirably able to pilot me (there's Mark Twain, again,) into territories both strange and familiar and always beautiful. Best regards Roger Parry NR: Panamarenko - for clever scholars, astronomers and doctors. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JonAbbey2@aol.com Subject: Re: James Chance Date: 16 Jun 2001 10:03:17 EDT Dear Mr. Parry, I read with great interest your partial transcription of the play "Zornlist". I'm not sure, however, why you chose to leave out the structural development that has the entire theatre world abuzz. as I'm sure you're well aware, per the playwright's instructions, every ten minutes the stage goes dark, the actors sit in silence, and the house lights go up. on cue, in unison, the audience rises to their feet, turns to face east, and reads together from their programs: "thank you for enlightening us! before you came along, we were content to wallow in our ignorance, but now, with your help, we hope someday to understand the world just a wee bit better." the audience then retakes their seats, and the play resumes. critical reaction to this stunning innovation has been mixed thus far, ranging from one who wrote, "what a brilliant play! this is the most exciting development in the 77 years I've been covering the theatre.", to the graffiti spray-painted on the walls of the theatre after opening night, which simply read, enigmatically and inexplicably, "WOT A WANKER". Jon www.erstwhilerecords.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ObviousEye@aol.com Subject: King Crimson Date: 16 Jun 2001 12:16:42 EDT --part1_92.161823f6.285ce06a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have the opportunity to see King Crimson at a really cool old venue near my home. A: should i see them? B: what is the current touring line-up? C: what songs are frequently on the recent set-lists? thanks. ben o. --part1_92.161823f6.285ce06a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have the opportunity to see King Crimson at a really cool old venue near my
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Not knock you flat disturbing, but creeps quietly into your brain and gives you strange dreams disturbing. Paul Bowles still frequently frightens me, esp his short work, and M. Gira from the Swans has a collection called "The Consumer" that, while not brilliant by any stretch, has some good, dark content. Matt - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: sergio luque Subject: Re: Odp: From Zappa to Zorn Date: 16 Jun 2001 13:58:05 -0500 el 14/6/01 12:04, Marcin Gokieli en marcingokieli@go2.pl escribi=F3: > In an interview JZ did for polish jazz mag 'jazz forum' some 5 years > ago, he said that zappa and beefheart are people that interest him in > rock (Coleman and Elllington in jazz, Varese and stravinsky in > classical) interesting to hear this coming out from the same person that at the beginning of the preface to _arcana_ wrote: "rock. jazz. punk. dada. beat. these words and their longer cousins, the ism-family (surrealism, postmodernism, abstract expressionism, minimalism), are used to commodify and commercialize an artist's complex personal vision= . this terminology is not about understanding. it never has been. it's about money. once a group of artists, writers, or musicians has been packaged together under such a banner, it is not only easier for work to marketed -i= t also becomes easier for the audience to 'buy it' and for the critic to respond with prepackaged opinions. the audience is deprived of its right to the pleasure of creating is own interpretation, and the critic no longer ha= s to think about what is really happening or go any deeper than the monochromatic surface of the label itself, thus avoiding any encounter with the real aesthetic criteria that make any individual artist's work possible= " =20 --=20 sergio sergioluque@mac.com mexico city - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: King Crimson Date: 16 Jun 2001 13:11:48 -0500 On Sat, Jun 16, 2001 at 12:16:42PM -0400, ObviousEye@aol.com wrote: > I have the opportunity to see King Crimson at a really cool old venue near my > home. > > A: should i see them? Yes. > B: what is the current touring line-up? Robert Fripp, Trey Gunn, Adrian Belew, Pat Mastelotto. > C: what songs are frequently on the recent set-lists? Expect to hear nothing from before 1980. I know that they have some new material, but, until set lists start popping up from their run this weekend in Nashville, don't know what they are. -- |> ~The only thing that is not art is inattention~ --- Marcel Duchamp <| | jzitt@metatronpress.com http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt | | Latest CD: Jerusaklyn http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt | | Comma: Voices of New Music Silence: the John Cage Discussion List | - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Caleb T. Deupree" Subject: Re: HOGG/ was Delany (no zorn) Date: 16 Jun 2001 17:50:00 -0400 Another disturbing book that hasn't been mentioned yet this go-round is House of Glass, by Mark Danielowski. Very well done horror story in the trappings of scholarly wrapping, and some of the most interesting typographical effects I've seen in a long time. -- Caleb Deupree cdeupree@erinet.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pm.carey@utoronto.ca (Patrick Carey) Subject: Fwd: Re: SY/Stereolab/Pram Date: 16 Jun 2001 18:29:48 +0100 * : >>>Maybe, even better than all of those Stereolab >>>records are those by Pram, a group that shares >>>lead Stereolab female singer Laetitia Sadier. * : >>Rosie Cuckston is not with the group any longer? * : >Your absoultely right! I don't know where I took that >from. However, I think that at some point there was >some connection between Sadier and Pram. Yes, both Cuckston & Sadier are part of Monade. A few split 7"s here and there including one with S'lab. -Patrick - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "s~Z" Subject: Re: unbelievable: CHALLENGE reissed!!! Date: 16 Jun 2001 15:54:21 -0700 >>>'Fixations (14).' This is a record of some of John Butcher's recent peregrinations.<<< His peregrinations last night in the Atrium of Ventura's City Hall were sublime. Butcher's use of extended technique to create such carefully crafted beauty is above reproach. Such techniques in the hands of others are often laced with humour and/or bombast, but John visits every corner of the dynamic range, and the music reminds me more of sacred music than Spike Jones. Exquisite performance. And a delightful gentleman as well. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ryan Novak Subject: Re: From Zappa to Zorn and beyond Date: 16 Jun 2001 16:34:53 -0700 (PDT) >Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 09:09:08 -0700 (PDT) >From: Tom Gatzen >Subject: Re: From Zappa to Zorn>>> > >It's probably because their last names end with Z that >they turned out to be great artists. They had more >time to create while they were waiting to be called on >in school. Over on the Fred Frith list there was the occasional obsession over connections between Frith and Robert Fripp, probably mostly because of their names. Kind of funny I thought but maybe not. And in Guitar Player magazine I read that Henry Kaiser said that Fripp had "ripped off" the idea of tuning the guitar in fifths from Frith and they called it the "great Frith Fripp fifth froth". Now that is funny isn't it? (and a good tongue-twister) Unrelated, but maybe someone could recommend some Louis Sclavis recordings for me, particularly something with Bruno Chevillon at his best (if he isn't always at his best). thanks, Ryan N. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. http://buzz.yahoo.com/ - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marcin Gokieli" Subject: Odp: Odp: From Zappa to Zorn Date: 17 Jun 2001 15:44:32 +0200 ----- Original Message ----- >From: sergio luque >interesting to hear this coming out from the same person that at the >beginning of the preface to _arcana_ wrote: [snip] In the interview he said the words quoted by me in quite a light context, saying that everything interests him, and in jazz x and y, in classical b and c , etc. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marcin Gokieli" Subject: Odp: King Crimson Date: 17 Jun 2001 15:40:17 +0200 ----- Original Message ----- > I have the opportunity to see King Crimson at a really cool old venue near my > home. > A: should i see them? The answer isd simple: Yes, and write us (or me at least) what was it like when you come back from thwe show. > B: what is the current touring line-up? Fripp, Belew, Gunn, Mastelotto. Gunn uses various touch basses and an ashbory, Mastelotto used to played roland Vdrums, but has taken a acoustic snare recently (or, more precisely, Fripp let him use one recently) > C: what songs are frequently on the recent set-lists? They tend to play recent stuff, in US they played a few songs from '80s. They do a cover of Bowie's 'heroes' They should be playing new material now. The current lineup s very strong live. Mastelotto-Gunn section is very powerful. Compared to the previous 'double trio' version it's more 'power rock': in fact, the band is not unlike primus + bitches brew + ornette. Exciting, long, improvs. Belew is great. I'm getting tired of Fripp recently, as i find his solos predictable, but the band is a wonder live. You can see what they're worth by checking the 'heavy construction' 3 cd set that includes material from their last euro tour. The 3rd cd contains improvs. Marcin - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arthur Gadney" Subject: Massacre tonight! Date: 17 Jun 2001 15:34:20 -0000 Is anybody going to the Massacre (w. Chris Cutler!) show tonight in London? Please post comments! I saw the recent version of Massacre few years ago at the Moers festival and it rocked. I'm curious how they might have changed in those years. Personally, I think it would be interesting if they started composing a bit for the group, but I don't think Bill Laswell is too interested in that. So please, reviews would be nice! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "dekater" Subject: Re: HOGG/ was Delany (no zorn) Date: 17 Jun 2001 20:39:42 +0200 ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 11:50 PM > Another disturbing book that hasn't been mentioned yet this go-round is > House of Glass, by Mark Danielowski. Very well done horror story in the > trappings of scholarly wrapping, and some of the most interesting > typographical effects I've seen in a long time. I suppose this must be "House of Leaves" by Mark Z. Danielewski. For the rest, I completely agree. Jan Luyben - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eriedell@aol.com Subject: Re: Odp: King Crimson Date: 17 Jun 2001 17:30:08 EDT In a message dated 6/17/01 8:48:48 AM, marcingokieli@go2.pl writes: << > C: what songs are frequently on the recent set-lists? >> I saw the first of Kc's four warm-up shows in Nashville last thursday evening. I can't remember the exact set list. They did play FraKctured, VROOOM, The ConstruKction of Light, Into The Frying Pan, Cage, The World's My....., Dinosaur, ProzaKc Blues, an amazing version of The Deception of The Thrush, David Bowie's Heroes, Elephant Talk, Frame by Frame and some newer tunes that have yet to be released as well as some older tunes that i can't remember. The show was really good even with a few mistakes from Belew as far as remembering lyrics, and messing up the guitar part on FraKctured. Belew's lead solos were great--if only all vocalists could handle lead guitar parts as well. Fripp was flawless. Gunn's solo on Deception of The Thrush made the evening as far as i'm concerned. Mastelotto nailed everything. The show was good enough that on the way home I put in a Kc cd--and it doesn't happen often that i'll want to listen to the same group on the ride home that i just finished seeing for two hours. If you've never checked them out before, seeing them live is probably the best introduction. ~Eriedell - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eriedell@aol.com Subject: Re: Odp: King Crimson Date: 17 Jun 2001 18:01:01 EDT In a message dated 6/17/01 8:48:48 AM, marcingokieli@go2.pl writes: << I'm getting tired of Fripp recently, as i find his solos predictable, but the band is a wonder live. >> Possibly because most of his solos now are written out? He only took one improvised solo when i saw them in Nashville as far as i could tell. It gets hard to count individual notes when he plays that fast, but as far as i could tell, all his solos were note for note what they are on Heavy ConstruKction with the exception of his solo on The World's My... (i think, which ever song it was that i thought was different, it wasn't far off the solo on Heavy ConstruKction). Can anyone confirm that Fripp's solos for Kc's newer stuff are composed out? - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Philip Clarkson Subject: Massacre tonight Date: 18 Jun 2001 00:05:40 +0000 > From: "Arthur Gadney" > Subject: Massacre tonight! > Is anybody going to the Massacre (w. Chris Cutler!) show tonight in London? > Please post comments! Just got back from the gig, which was hugely enjoyable - they played for about an hour, mainly doing several long improvised pieces, with a couple of shorter thrashier pieces thrown in. I imagine most of it is improvised, although a couple of the pieces seemed to start with "heads" or some pre-arranged idea of how to begin. Frith had two guitars - one laid flat on a table which he occasionally plugged into & used some sort of pickup to amplify the objects he pushed & scraped up the strings - a bow, a metal tin, metal chain etc etc. He mainly played his other electric guitar in a more conventional fashion, although using it as much for percussive effect as to pluck. He used a lot of effects pedals to loop various sounds & bits of feedback which he then improvised over. Laswell varied between very melodic playing (similar in style to on his Tzadik album, "Invisible Design"), jazzy runs, dub & funk riffs which anchored the pieces down & often led the way they progressed. It was enjoyable to hear him throwing Bootsy-style fuzzbass lines into the mix as Frith splintered out free-guitar noise over the top. Laswell also quoted riffs (I think) from Funkadelic's "Cosmic Slop", Sly Stone's "Thank You For Talking To Me Africa" & Trane's "A Love Supreme". Charles Heyward provided a powerful rhythmic charge - he also played melodica on a couple of the quieter sections. The band were really well received - they got a standing ovation, and Laswell even smiled, shockingly. Their playing reminded me as much of the backing for Percy Howard's "Meridiem" album as it did for the last Massacre one - it'd be great to hear some live releases from this line-up. Are they playing anywhere else in Europe? Chris Cutler's set was a lengthy improvised piece using a conventional drum kit & a load of electronic gear - samples were triggered pretty much constantly. It was kind of impressive to watch, but the lack of any melodic elements meant I wasn't unhappy when it finished. Just my tuppence's worth...anyone else see the gig? Phil Clarkson phil@clarksonp.demon.co.uk - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: Odp: King Crimson Date: 17 Jun 2001 18:55:33 -0500 On Sun, Jun 17, 2001 at 06:01:01PM -0400, Eriedell@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 6/17/01 8:48:48 AM, marcingokieli@go2.pl writes: > > << I'm getting tired of > > Fripp recently, as i find his solos predictable, but the band is a > > wonder live. >> > > Possibly because most of his solos now are written out? He only took one > improvised solo when i saw them in Nashville as far as i could tell. It gets > hard to count individual notes when he plays that fast, but as far as i could > tell, all his solos were note for note what they are on Heavy ConstruKction > with the exception of his solo on The World's My... (i think, which ever song > it was that i thought was different, it wasn't far off the solo on Heavy > ConstruKction). Can anyone confirm that Fripp's solos for Kc's newer stuff > are composed out? I know that much of the material (such as the entire third disc of Heavy ConstruKCtion) is completely improvised. He may be working with composed solos in the written-out songs, but that's far from the complete show. -- |> ~The only thing that is not art is inattention~ --- Marcel Duchamp <| | jzitt@metatronpress.com http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt | | Latest CD: Jerusaklyn http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt | | Comma: Voices of New Music Silence: the John Cage Discussion List | - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Smith" Subject: Jon Is My Co-Pilot Date: 17 Jun 2001 22:29:38 -0400 Hey all: I'm two years late jumping on this particular bus, but since some of you might not have checked this out, I beg of you a moment for a brief plug... About two years back, I asked my/our friend Jon Abbey for his recommendations regarding a "starter kit" for the new electro-improv scene of which he plays such a great part with his Erstwhile label. He supplied five titles, but given the difficulties in finding some of these things, I was slow in reacting. REAL slow. But I found myself in Mondo Kim's with some cash to burn on Friday afternoon, and finally acted on a few of his recommendations. I've not listened to the lot of them yet, but after one in particular, I felt that I had to share in public. To wit: The self-titled release by Dafeldecker, Kurzmann, Fennesz, O'Rourke, Drumm and Siewert on the Charizma label is just one of the best things I've heard in recent memory. It's more than an exceptional electro-acoustic improv disc - it's just a damn fine disc, period. I spent last night thoroughly engrossed in it. Go, go, get this. Thanks, Jon. Steve Smith ssmith36@sprynet.com NP - nada (P.S. the rest of Friday's shopping: I.S.O. - 'I.S.O.' [also from Jon's list], John Oswald - '69-96,' Fennesz/O'Rourke/Rehberg - 'The Magic Sound of Fenno'berg' [a Brian O. recommendation], and Djam Karet - 'New Dark Age'... not a bad haul for one day...) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Michael=20Gillham?= Subject: Merzbow Video Special Date: 18 Jun 2001 05:26:15 +0100 (BST) Merzbow Video Special http://www.newempire.com/articles/special.asp?SID=LIAOHBKSGF7X18062001061353&art=155 This video special is taken from a broadcast of german music tv station VIVA2 in early Jan. 2001. This "Wah Wah" (in short WAH2) TV special on Merzbow broadcasted on VIVA2 shows a live performance of Masami Akita (MERZBOW) and Zbigmiew Karkowski in August 2000 @ the C.U.B.A. in Muenster, Germany. It features live footage of Merzbow presenting the "Pulse Demon" release, Masami Akita and Zbigmiew Karkowski live on stage, statements and info on both artists as still images in between the video footage (geman only) and videos of MERZBOW, Pansonic and Microstoria. The files are in .wmv format (Windows Media Player 7 and up). Video 1 Running time: 21.24 Min.; Size 30 MB Video 2 Running time: 24.00 Min.; Size 34 MB Video 3 Running time: 11.27 Min.; Size 16 MB All files come with 176x144 pixel video @ 25 fps and a 64kpbs/44khz audio encoding. No commercials in between. Just the music. Enjoy. ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Gannushkin Subject: DowntownMusic.net update Date: 18 Jun 2001 02:32:01 -0400 Hello All, My site was finally updated. More than 500 pictures from this year New York concerts were added. Check them out. NP: Misha Mengelberg "Solo" (CD), Broezimann [5:25] -- Best regards, Peter Gannushkin e-mail: shkin@shkin.com URL: http://www.downtownmusic.net/ - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ricardo Reis Subject: Jazz em Agosto - Lisbon 1 to 12 August Date: 18 Jun 2001 12:44:47 +0100 (WET DST) Hi! Since Effren mentioned it, i thought on posting the program for the Jazz in Agosto (happening in Lisbon): 1/08 - New York Art Quartet (Milford Graves/John Tchicai/Roswell Rudd/Reggie Workman/Amiri Braka) 2/08 - Wetaher Clear Track Fast (Lew Soloff/Joseph Bowie/Brigan Krauss/Terry Adams/Steve Swallow/Bobby Previte) 3/08 - Henry Threadgill "Make a move" (Tony Cedras/Brandon Ross/Stomu Takeishi/J.T.Lewis) 4/08 - Methwe Shipp solo 9/08 - Claude Tchamitchian "Grand Lousadzak" (Jean-Francois Canape/Jean-Luc Cappozo/Jean-Marc Foltz/Laurent Charles/Francois Corneloup/Daunik Lazro/Fabrice Charles/Stephan Oliva/Philippe Deschepper/Michael Nick/Laurent Hoevenaers/Eric Echampard) 10/08- Raymond Boni/Eric Echampard, Francois Cornelup trio (Claude Tchamitchian/Eric Echampard) 11/08- Eight Bold Souls (Edward Wilkerson, Jr/Harrison Bankhead/Robert Griffin/Gerald Powell/Isaiah Jackson/Naomi Millender/Mwata Bowen/Dushun Moseley) 12/08- The golden quartet (Wadada Leo Smith/Anthony Davis/Malachi Favors/Jack DeJonhette) greets, Ricardo Reis "Non Serviam" - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ricardo Reis Subject: Boredoms anime conection Date: 18 Jun 2001 12:50:04 +0100 (WET DST) ! Don't know if this has been mentioned but at 1':17'' of track 7 of Boredoms album "Soul discharge 1999" there's a specific musical quote of a music from the anime series "Cowboy Beebop". back to work, Ricardo Reis "Non Serviam" - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?efr=E9n=20del=20valle?= Subject: Fwd: Jazz em Agosto - Lisbon 1 to 12 August Date: 18 Jun 2001 14:08:03 +0200 (CEST) Hi Ricardo (and everyone)! Thanks for posting this. Do you know the website address where I can find info on ticket sales, etc? The program is simply unbelivable!! Thanks again, Efrén > > > program for > the Jazz in Agosto (happening in Lisbon): > > 1/08 - New York Art Quartet (Milford Graves/John > Tchicai/Roswell > Rudd/Reggie Workman/Amiri Braka) > > 2/08 - Wetaher Clear Track Fast (Lew Soloff/Joseph > Bowie/Brigan > Krauss/Terry Adams/Steve Swallow/Bobby Previte) > > 3/08 - Henry Threadgill "Make a move" (Tony > Cedras/Brandon > Ross/Stomu Takeishi/J.T.Lewis) > > 4/08 - Methwe Shipp solo > > 9/08 - Claude Tchamitchian "Grand Lousadzak" > (Jean-Francois > Canape/Jean-Luc Cappozo/Jean-Marc Foltz/Laurent > Charles/Francois > Corneloup/Daunik Lazro/Fabrice Charles/Stephan > Oliva/Philippe > Deschepper/Michael Nick/Laurent Hoevenaers/Eric > Echampard) > > 10/08- Raymond Boni/Eric Echampard, Francois > Cornelup trio (Claude > Tchamitchian/Eric Echampard) > > 11/08- Eight Bold Souls (Edward Wilkerson, > Jr/Harrison > Bankhead/Robert Griffin/Gerald Powell/Isaiah > Jackson/Naomi > Millender/Mwata Bowen/Dushun Moseley) > > 12/08- The golden quartet (Wadada Leo Smith/Anthony > Davis/Malachi > Favors/Jack DeJonhette) > > greets, > > Ricardo Reis > > "Non Serviam" > > > > - > _______________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger: Comunicación instantánea gratis con tu gente - http://messenger.yahoo.es - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Patrice L. Roussel" Subject: sad news: Lindsay Cooper is not with us anymore... Date: 18 Jun 2001 11:06:56 -0700 Just learnt that Lindsay Cooper died. We will miss her. Patrice. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David Beardsley" Subject: Re: sad news: Lindsay Cooper is not with us anymore... Date: 18 Jun 2001 15:20:12 -0400 ----- Original Message ----- > > Just learnt that Lindsay Cooper died. We will miss her. Sad news. David Beardsley - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "M.B." Subject: Henry Threadgill Date: 18 Jun 2001 13:06:37 -0700 (PDT) Anyone have any rec's for Threadgill? I found Makin' a Move and Too Much Sugar For A Dime in the used cd bin today and could use some suggestions as to where to go from there........ Thanks __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. http://buzz.yahoo.com/ - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bertrand Guggenheim Subject: Re: Henry Threadgill Date: 18 Jun 2001 23:36:04 +0200 > Anyone have any rec's for Threadgill? > I found Makin' a Move and Too Much Sugar For A Dime in the used cd bin > today and could use some suggestions > as to where to go from there........ Love your 2 and ... many others. Very Very Circus and Carry the Day also from the 90's in a similar mood: 2 guitars, 2 tubas, etc .... Wonderful arrangements with a "world" touch. Jazz purists will probably prefer the 80's Sextett (7 pieces indeed), not as catchy (?) as 90's stuff. I love especially "Just The Facts and Pass the Bucket", on About Time. Cadence should still have it on cd and LP. No recent Threadgill cd but 8 Bold Souls' Last Option is very much in the Threadgill style and it is a wonderful cd. And AIR, the quintessential 70's free bluesy sax-bass-drums trio, Threadgill, Fred Hopkins & Steve McCall. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marcin Gokieli" Subject: Odp: Odp: King Crimson Date: 18 Jun 2001 12:14:57 +0200 ----- Original Message ----- > Possibly because most of his solos now are written out? He only took one > improvised solo when i saw them in Nashville as far as i could tell. It gets That's only a part of the story. I think he got too limited by his style of uncommon intervals, lots of sustain, etc.He could play some normal stuff from time to time. Look at what frisell plays: he's much more versalite. On the other hand, Scofield commits the same sin as fripp: his solos are great and very refined, but all are the same in some sense. I think that being composed is not a problem, I like some of them very much - for example 'elephant talk'. By now, all fripp solos consist of ultrafast notes, and his sound got too artificial. As to his sound, it was the best at fripp sylvian 'the first day', the sound oon 'vroom' is grreat also. More natural and dricher then the later, very synthetic sounds. - > Marcin Gokieli marcin.gokieli@mospan.pl marcingokieli@go2.pl Generally speaking, if a philosopher offers to 'dissolve' the problem you are working on, tell him to go climb a tree - Jerry Fodor - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "& c." Subject: Johnny Stecchino Date: 19 Jun 2001 09:05:30 -0400 I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which has music by Evan Lurie. I assume this is the same Lurie from the Lounge Lizards. Was most of the music performed by Lounge Lizards or part of them? The sax did sound like John Lurie. Zach _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Scott Handley Subject: Re: sad news: Lindsay Cooper is not with us anymore... Date: 19 Jun 2001 08:51:01 -0700 (PDT) --- "Patrice L. Roussel" wrote: >Just learnt that Lindsay Cooper died. We will miss > her. How long ago did this happen? I received a pretty detailed post about this on another list, weeks ago, but I think _that_ Lindsay Cooper was a man, a bassist. Is this definitely Ms. Cooper the bassoonist? -----s __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. http://buzz.yahoo.com/ - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Patrice L. Roussel" Subject: Re: sad news: Lindsay Cooper is not with us anymore... Date: 19 Jun 2001 08:58:53 -0700 On Tue, 19 Jun 2001 08:51:01 -0700 (PDT) Scott Handley wrote: > > --- "Patrice L. Roussel" > wrote: > >Just learnt that Lindsay Cooper died. We will miss > > her. > > How long ago did this happen? I received a pretty > detailed post about this on another list, weeks ago, > but I think _that_ Lindsay Cooper was a man, a > bassist. Is this definitely Ms. Cooper the > bassoonist? This is the basson/sopranino player and composer Lindsay Cooper, the woman, not the bass player. Yes, it has happened a few weeks ago but I just learnt it a few days ago and assumed that I was not the only one to ignore this sad news. Patrice. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mads Ruby" Subject: Sv: Johnny Stecchino Date: 19 Jun 2001 18:14:57 +0200 & c. asked >I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" = which=20 >has music by Evan Lurie. I assume this is the same Lurie from the = Lounge=20 >Lizards. Was most of the music performed by Lounge Lizards or part of = them?=20 > The sax did sound like John Lurie. > >Zach It=B4s Evan Lurie. He also did the soundtrack for Il Diccolo Diavolo. I = tend to mix up the Benigni films, but recall hearing music from "Selling = Water By The Side Of the River" (Antilles 1990) in one of them, but in = different versions (the album versions are played by Evan, Marc Ribot, = Jill Jaffe, Alfredo Pedernera and John Beal). Nice record.=20 regards, Mads - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Patrice L. Roussel" Subject: Japanese LP pressing of NIPPLES Date: 19 Jun 2001 09:22:15 -0700 Does anybody on the list is aware of a Japanese LP pressing of NIPPLES? Thanks, Patrice. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "thomas chatterton" Subject: Hermetic Theater Date: 19 Jun 2001 16:24:43 -0000 Just picked up today's new Zorn release 'Songs from the Hermetic Theater', about which I have mixed feelings. The electronic/computer pieces American Magus & The Nerve Key are pretty unexciting, generic, somewhat cliche. The others, In The Very Eye Of Night & Beuysblock are more engaging, my feeling is the maestro should stick to composing and performing on 'traditional' instruments and objects... As for another thread, Fripp's guitaring, for me he peaked around Starless & Bible Black, his best solo is without a doubt on Eno's 'Baby's On Fire'. He lost his 'edge' when Belew came on board, that seemed like a cop-out bringing in another guitarist, so Fripp could fade back...the most satisfying Fripp I've witnessed in the last couple of decades has been his Frippertronics opening on the Vai Satriani tour...he should get the mellotron out of storage! np: Webern Complete Boulez _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bill Ashline" Subject: Jon Is My Co-Pilot Date: 19 Jun 2001 16:36:57 -0000 >From: "Steve Smith" >Subject: Jon Is My Co-Pilot >To wit: The self-titled release by Dafeldecker, Kurzmann, Fennesz, >O'Rourke, >Drumm and Siewert on the Charizma label is just one of the best things I've >heard in recent memory. It's more than an exceptional electro-acoustic >improv disc - it's just a damn fine disc, period. I spent last night >thoroughly engrossed in it. Go, go, get this. Yes, this is a great CD to be certain. There's a certain narrative dimension to a lot of the electro-acoustic stuff. This one to be sure as well as Jon's "Schnee" perhaps the best one on jon's label. Another great one is Poire Z with Muller, Erik M and Voice Crack. Just got this and would just as strongly recommend it. I've learned a lot from Jon. And I'm happy to report that I'm the proud owner of all but the most recent two releases of the Erstwhile catalogue, a catalogue that never ceases to challenge and intrigue. And the most intriguing and challenging to date is by far Nakamura and Sachiko's "Do," which will certainly be one of my top two or three favorites of the current year. PS--I'm really enjoying the two box sets of Pierre Henry these days. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "riccardo pioli" Subject: Re: sad news: Lindsay Cooper is not with us anymore... Date: 19 Jun 2001 18:44:43 +0100 dear friends, our favourite bassonist and soprano player lindsay cooper (woman) is still alive... chris cutler confirmed it to a friend of mine. maybe is the scottish bass player (man) with the same name... i don't know. riccardo - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Smith" Subject: Fripped out [was RE: Hermetic Theater] Date: 19 Jun 2001 12:54:59 -0400 I can see your point in re: Fripp, but to be honest, I've heard massive chunks of the guitar style you're missing in performances by ProjeKct Two and last year's shows by King Crimson, and in both cases he was clearly enjoying himself tremendously. It was good to hear him just wail. The P2 show, in particular, is probably the best Crim-related performance I've ever seen, Belew's mostly merely serviceable drumming notwithstanding. I didn't see the arrival of Belew as any kind of cop-out, really. It mostly enabled Fripp to realize those interlocking minimalist tunes he was suddenly writing in '81. Neither Fripp nor Belew truly wailed the way we know they both can (I still think Belew reached his personal stunt-guitar-hero peak with Talking Heads 'Remain in Light,' but don't begrudge him for what he's done since). They were both rather restrained, and remain so to a degree aside from the improvs. The reintroduction of large stretches of improv in the current quartet is the best thing to happen with Fripp and Crimson in decades. I think that after years of self-negation within the Crimson context, Fripp is just now beginning to have fun and let loose with some serious shredding again, if only from time to time. He's magnificent on the live Sylvian-Fripp disc, 'Damage.' If Fripp were to be accused of bringing someone in as a cop-out, that charge might more accurately have been leveled in regards to Trey Gunn in his earliest days, when he really was a Fripp clone so accurate it was eerie, if not appalling. Since then, Trey's really become his own man, but I still suspect that many folks might think it's Fripp soloing on "Deception of the Thrush." Sadly, Fripp sold his Mellotrons - at least two of the three, anyway. During "Dinosaur," he uses a digital Mellotron patch triggered by his guitar, but it's not the same. For the real thing (along with lotsa burning guitar), might I recommend Djam Karet's new one, 'New Dark Age' on Cuneiform? I think it might be my favorite of all of their single albums - the duo of 'Suspension and Displacement' and 'Burning the Hard City' remain special, of course, but 'New Dark Age' is a fantastic starting point. Hope to be able to see them at the Knit next week... There's also a rumor afoot that the four remaining original Crims (Lake, McDonald, Giles and Sinfield) are considering hitting the road soon with Steve Hackett on the guitar stool - with Fripp's blessing, at that. Rumor has it they'll be called simply "Crimson." Don't know if I can be bothered to see that or not. Perhaps it's better to cherish old memories than to see an embittered singer past his prime trying to recapture the glory days, all in the name of proving he was the prime mover of that band's sound (which, of course, was more McDonald and Fripp, anyway). Steve Smith ssmith36@sprynet.com (always to be depended upon for a Crim-related thread...) -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-zorn-list@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of thomas chatterton As for another thread, Fripp's guitaring, for me he peaked around Starless & Bible Black, his best solo is without a doubt on Eno's 'Baby's On Fire'. He lost his 'edge' when Belew came on board, that seemed like a cop-out bringing in another guitarist, so Fripp could fade back...the most satisfying Fripp I've witnessed in the last couple of decades has been his Frippertronics opening on the Vai Satriani tour...he should get the mellotron out of storage! np: Webern Complete Boulez _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ObviousEye@aol.com Subject: kING cRIMSON Date: 19 Jun 2001 13:46:57 EDT --part1_64.f7c801c.2860ea11_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i really enjoy Fripp's guitar work on the League of Gentlemen records, as well as on No Pussyfooting/evening star with Eno. it seems that now, however, he is becoming to idiomatic. ben o. --part1_64.f7c801c.2860ea11_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i really enjoy Fripp's guitar work on the League of Gentlemen records, as
well as on No Pussyfooting/evening star with Eno.

it seems that now, however, he is becoming to idiomatic.


ben o. --part1_64.f7c801c.2860ea11_boundary-- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gamantyo Hendrantoro Subject: Re: sad news: Lindsay Cooper is not with us anymore... Date: 19 Jun 2001 14:36:47 -0400 > From: "Patrice L. Roussel" > > On Tue, 19 Jun 2001 08:51:01 -0700 (PDT) Scott Handley wrote: > > > > How long ago did this happen? I received a pretty > > detailed post about this on another list, weeks ago, > > but I think _that_ Lindsay Cooper was a man, a > > bassist. Is this definitely Ms. Cooper the > > bassoonist? > > This is the basson/sopranino player and composer Lindsay Cooper, the woman, > not the bass player. Sad news, indeed. :( Btw, which Lindsay Cooper played bass on Mike Oldfield's Tubular Bells? Gamantyo - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ricardo Reis Subject: Re: Jazz em Agosto - Lisbon 1 to 12 August Date: 19 Jun 2001 19:44:55 +0100 (WET DST) > Thanks for posting this. Do you know the website > address where I can find info on ticket sales, etc? > The program is simply unbelivable!! >=20 > Thanks again, >=20 > Efr=E9n =09I found out a general information email for Gulbenkian (the foundation behind the event): info@gulbenkian.pt . Anyway, there's nothing on their site about it, or even in http://www.jazzportugal.net , a portuguese site dedicated to Jazz. I've got the program through the Jazzman magazine (it's french) that also brings a list of concerts through France and the rest of the world (i believe they are not exaustive but... for a perspective of what is going on is very good). =09=09=09greets, =09=09=09=09 Ricardo Reis =09=09=09=09"Non Serviam" - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Patrice L. Roussel" Subject: Re: sad news: Lindsay Cooper is not with us anymore... Date: 19 Jun 2001 14:13:43 -0700 On Tue, 19 Jun 2001 18:44:43 +0100 "riccardo pioli" wrote: > > dear friends, > our favourite bassonist and soprano player lindsay cooper (woman) is still > alive... chris cutler confirmed it to a friend of mine. > maybe is the scottish bass player (man) with the same name... i don't know. Sorry for that. I got the info from what appeared to be a reliable source... I should have known better. Patrice (red with shame). - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dgasque@aol.com Subject: Re: sad news: Lindsay Cooper is not with us anymore... Date: 19 Jun 2001 17:46:40 EDT I can relate. I've tried to kill off a few musicians here myself. -- =dg= In a message dated Tue, 19 Jun 2001 5:15:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "Patrice L. Roussel" writes: << On Tue, 19 Jun 2001 18:44:43 +0100 "riccardo pioli" wrote: > > dear friends, > our favourite bassonist and soprano player lindsay cooper (woman) is still > alive... chris cutler confirmed it to a friend of mine. > maybe is the scottish bass player (man) with the same name... i don't know. Sorry for that. I got the info from what appeared to be a reliable source... I should have known better. Patrice (red with shame). - >> - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matthew Moffett Subject: [Fwd: Re: Boredoms anime conection] Date: 19 Jun 2001 18:04:01 -0400 Message-ID: <3B2FCBFE.7163@erols.com> X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01-C-DH397 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ricardo Reis wrote: > > ! > > Don't know if this has been mentioned but at 1':17'' of track 7 of > Boredoms album "Soul discharge 1999" there's a specific musical quote of a > music from the anime series "Cowboy Beebop". > > back to work, > > Ricardo Reis > > "Non Serviam" > > - Don't know that one, but I noticed the other day when re-watching _Ninja Scroll_ that someone named Les Claypool III did the digital editing. Does anyone know of a list floating around of Zorn's music for cartoons? I'd be curious to see how much his sounds relate to the images.... Matt - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: Fripped out [was RE: Hermetic Theater] Date: 19 Jun 2001 19:50:10 -0500 On Tue, Jun 19, 2001 at 12:54:59PM -0400, Steve Smith wrote: > If Fripp were to be accused of bringing someone in as a cop-out, that charge > might more accurately have been leveled in regards to Trey Gunn in his > earliest days, when he really was a Fripp clone so accurate it was eerie, if > not appalling. Since then, Trey's really become his own man, but I still > suspect that many folks might think it's Fripp soloing on "Deception of the > Thrush." I wish I still had the tape of Trey auditioning for my band in Brooklyn in the mid-80s -- the resemblance was uncanny. As I recall, he agreed to join, but I was trumped when he got a Call from the Master to come to England. Ah, well... -- |> ~The only thing that is not art is inattention~ --- Marcel Duchamp <| | jzitt@metatronpress.com http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt | | Latest CD: Jerusaklyn http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt | | Comma: Voices of New Music Silence: the John Cage Discussion List | - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arthur Gadney" Subject: new tzadiks Date: 20 Jun 2001 08:55:11 -0000 Anybody got the two new Tzadik releases? Frith: "Clearing", Zorn: "Songs of the hermetic Theater" I'm extremely curious about Zorn's computer music. Judging from the cover photo, this CD relates to the "Theater Of Musical Optics" idea, which I fear might be an "excuse" for very very bad music... So some comments? Frith ought to be incredible. I thought it would be one long track, like his solo concerts normally are, but it isn't. Is this kind of a "new thing" for him? Bye! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Caleb T. Deupree" Subject: million dollar hotel Date: 20 Jun 2001 07:07:47 -0400 Last night we rented Wim Wenders' recent movie Million Dollar Hotel, sort of an existential thriller. The best thing about the movie was the music, played by an all-star band including Bill Frisell, Greg Cohen, Jon Hassell, Daniel Lanois, Brian Eno, and some guy named Bono (who also produced and wrote the story) on occasional vocals. Amazon has the soundtrack listed, but it looks like they included all of the songs and not much of the wonderful atmospheric instrumental music. Can anyone confirm or comment on the OST contents? -- Caleb Deupree cdeupree@erinet.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom Gatzen Subject: Re: new tzadiks Date: 20 Jun 2001 04:35:47 -0700 (PDT) hopefully I should have them on street date, however I'm still waiting for one of the releases from last month > - > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?efr=E9n=20del=20valle?= Subject: Fwd: Sv: Johnny Stecchino Date: 20 Jun 2001 14:33:21 +0200 (CEST) It´s Evan Lurie. He also did the soundtrack for Il > Diccolo Diavolo. I tend to mix up the Benigni films, > but recall hearing music from "Selling Water By The > Side Of the River" (Antilles 1990) in one of them, > but in different versions > > regards, Mads > And there are also some songs from "Pieces for Bandoneon" included in the "Piccolo Diavolo" soundtrack. Both highly recommendable (though they share too much material). Rgards, Efrén _______________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger: Comunicación instantánea gratis con tu gente - http://messenger.yahoo.es - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Herb Levy Subject: Mappings for the week of June 19, 2001 Date: 20 Jun 2001 06:07:48 -0500 Hi y'all, This week on Mappings , you'll hear music by Peter Ablinger, Muhal Richard Abrams, Mark Dresser & Denman Maroney, Sorrel Hays, Wayne Horvitz, Francois Houle, Helmut Lachenmann, Bradshaw Pack, Morgan Powell, Salvatore Sciarrino, Owen Underhill, and Julia Wolfe. The show went online Monday evening around 10:00 PM (-0800 GMT) and will remain online at the above URL for a week. Last week's program (featuring electronic music by Muhal Richard Abrams, Karlheinz Essl, Ron Fein, Kenneth Gaburo, Jonty Harrison, Luc Houtkamp, Alex Keller, Tod Machover, Ilhan Mimaroglu, Toshimaru Nakamura, Steven Naylor, Pauline Oliveros, Matthew Ostrowski, Maggi Payne, Neil Rolnick, Antti Saario, Simon Scardanelli, Denis Smalley, Carl Stone, Morton Subotnick, and John Wall is still available in the Mappings archive , where you can also find play lists for the program since it began in March 1998. Hope you tune in to the program. Bests, Herb - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Patrice L. Roussel" Subject: Re: million dollar hotel Date: 20 Jun 2001 08:16:49 -0700 On Wed, 20 Jun 2001 07:07:47 -0400 "Caleb T. Deupree" wrote: > > Last night we rented Wim Wenders' recent movie Million Dollar Hotel, sort > of an existential thriller. The best thing about the movie was the music, > played by an all-star band including Bill Frisell, Greg Cohen, Jon Hassell, > Daniel Lanois, Brian Eno, and some guy named Bono (who also produced and > wrote the story) on occasional vocals. Amazon has the soundtrack listed, > but it looks like they included all of the songs and not much of the > wonderful atmospheric instrumental music. Can anyone confirm or comment on > the OST contents? Is the movie as bad as so many people claim? Patrice. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Theo Klaase Subject: Million Dollar Hotel Date: 20 Jun 2001 08:33:39 -0700 (PDT) --0-596516649-993051219=:7208 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'm a huge Frisell fan, so naturally I bought the soundtrack... Let me just say that it has moments and it has fluff... 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Bono's "genuine" story is just a bit different from the original, the difference is usually subject of all complaints about the movie. Recommended reading though. __________________________________________________________________ Artur Nowak [arno at emd dot pl] muzyka.emd.pl - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arthur Gadney" Subject: Re: million dollar hotel Date: 20 Jun 2001 16:15:22 -0000 >Is the movie as bad as so many people claim? Yes, I think it is. I saw it at it's grand premiere at the filmfestival in Berlin and you would think that atmosphere alone was enough to save it. But no. Rather dissapointing. The soundtrack disc is for Bono and U2 fans, not Frisell fans. (U2 fans will love it though) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Caleb T. Deupree" Subject: Re: million dollar hotel Date: 20 Jun 2001 14:12:57 -0400 At 08:16 AM 6/20/01 -0700, Patrice L. Roussel wrote: > >Is the movie as bad as so many people claim? We had never heard of it and didn't read bad reviews until after we saw it. On the plus side, the music is great, it's an interesting footnote in Mel Gibson's oeuvre, and the leads both do pretty well. The down side is pretty well covered elsewhere, but the fifth beatle was really irritating for us. My companion bagged it half way through, but I'm glad I finished it, if for no other reason than because I think Wenders' filmography has been interesting to follow. -- Caleb Deupree cdeupree@erinet.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hugo Linares" Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 20 Jun 2001 22:44:04 -0300 Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nirav Soni" Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 20 Jun 2001 21:51:22 -0400 > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "s~Z" Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 20 Jun 2001 19:44:43 -0700 NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rick Lopez Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 20 Jun 2001 22:44:19 -0400 why would I receive this a dozen times? Just wondering... > From: Hugo Linares > Reply-To: Hugo Linares > Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) > To: parksplace@hotmail.com, zorn-list@lists.xmission.com > Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino > > Hi, > > >> I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which > > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? > > Later, > > Hugo Linares > NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema > > > > > > - > > > - > > > > - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rick Lopez Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:19 +0200 (CEST) why would I receive this a dozen times? Just wondering... > From: Hugo Linares > Reply-To: Hugo Linares > Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) > To: parksplace@hotmail.com, zorn-list@lists.xmission.com > Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino > > Hi, > > >> I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which > > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? > > Later, > > Hugo Linares > NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema > > > > > > - > > > - > > > > - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 20 Jun 2001 21:51:01 -0500 On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 04:44:19AM +0200, Rick Lopez wrote: > why would I receive this a dozen times? Just wondering... I suspect that some mailbox somewhere is bouncing things back to the list. It seems less of a problem than happened when someone caused a bounce loop on a list that I ran, causing some 700 instances of a message within an hour (of course, the hour that I was out at lunch and not paying attention). Fortunately, that time a listmember was able to contact the postmaster at the bouncing site and shut it off. This proved that having list messages' Reply-to: value set to loop back to the list is a Bad Thing. -- |> ~The only thing that is not art is inattention~ --- Marcel Duchamp <| | jzitt@metatronpress.com http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt | | Latest CD: Jerusaklyn http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt | | Comma: Voices of New Music Silence: the John Cage Discussion List | - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Herb Levy Subject: Re: Later Date: 20 Jun 2001 22:50:45 -0500 Hugo Linares wrote: >Later, and apparently really, really meant it. Bests, Herb -- Herb Levy Mappings on Antenna Internet Radio http://www.antennaradio.com/avant/mappings/ mappings@antennaradio.com Mappings P O Box 9369 Forth Wort, TX 76147 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rick Lopez Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:19 +0200 (CEST) why would I receive this a dozen times? Just wondering... > From: Hugo Linares > Reply-To: Hugo Linares > Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) > To: parksplace@hotmail.com, zorn-list@lists.xmission.com > Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino > > Hi, > > >> I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which > > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? > > Later, > > Hugo Linares > NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema > > > > > > - > > > - > > > > - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rick Lopez Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:19 +0200 (CEST) why would I receive this a dozen times? Just wondering... > From: Hugo Linares > Reply-To: Hugo Linares > Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) > To: parksplace@hotmail.com, zorn-list@lists.xmission.com > Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino > > Hi, > > >> I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which > > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? > > Later, > > Hugo Linares > NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema > > > > > > - > > > - > > > > - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rick Lopez Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:19 +0200 (CEST) why would I receive this a dozen times? Just wondering... > From: Hugo Linares > Reply-To: Hugo Linares > Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) > To: parksplace@hotmail.com, zorn-list@lists.xmission.com > Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino > > Hi, > > >> I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which > > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? > > Later, > > Hugo Linares > NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema > > > > > > - > > > - > > > > - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rick Lopez Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:19 +0200 (CEST) why would I receive this a dozen times? Just wondering... > From: Hugo Linares > Reply-To: Hugo Linares > Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) > To: parksplace@hotmail.com, zorn-list@lists.xmission.com > Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino > > Hi, > > >> I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which > > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? > > Later, > > Hugo Linares > NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema > > > > > > - > > > - > > > > - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rick Lopez Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:19 +0200 (CEST) why would I receive this a dozen times? Just wondering... > From: Hugo Linares > Reply-To: Hugo Linares > Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) > To: parksplace@hotmail.com, zorn-list@lists.xmission.com > Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino > > Hi, > > >> I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which > > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? > > Later, > > Hugo Linares > NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema > > > > > > - > > > - > > > > - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:51:01 +0200 (CEST) On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 04:44:19AM +0200, Rick Lopez wrote: > why would I receive this a dozen times? Just wondering... I suspect that some mailbox somewhere is bouncing things back to the list. It seems less of a problem than happened when someone caused a bounce loop on a list that I ran, causing some 700 instances of a message within an hour (of course, the hour that I was out at lunch and not paying attention). Fortunately, that time a listmember was able to contact the postmaster at the bouncing site and shut it off. This proved that having list messages' Reply-to: value set to loop back to the list is a Bad Thing. -- |> ~The only thing that is not art is inattention~ --- Marcel Duchamp <| | jzitt@metatronpress.com http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt | | Latest CD: Jerusaklyn http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt | | Comma: Voices of New Music Silence: the John Cage Discussion List | - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Herb Levy Subject: Re: Later Date: 21 Jun 2001 05:50:45 +0200 (CEST) Hugo Linares wrote: >Later, and apparently really, really meant it. Bests, Herb -- Herb Levy Mappings on Antenna Internet Radio http://www.antennaradio.com/avant/mappings/ mappings@antennaradio.com Mappings P O Box 9369 Forth Wort, TX 76147 - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rick Lopez Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:19 +0200 (CEST) why would I receive this a dozen times? Just wondering... > From: Hugo Linares > Reply-To: Hugo Linares > Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) > To: parksplace@hotmail.com, zorn-list@lists.xmission.com > Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino > > Hi, > > >> I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which > > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? > > Later, > > Hugo Linares > NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema > > > > > > - > > > - > > > > - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Herb Levy Subject: Re: Later Date: 21 Jun 2001 05:50:45 +0200 (CEST) Hugo Linares wrote: >Later, and apparently really, really meant it. Bests, Herb -- Herb Levy Mappings on Antenna Internet Radio http://www.antennaradio.com/avant/mappings/ mappings@antennaradio.com Mappings P O Box 9369 Forth Wort, TX 76147 - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rick Lopez Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:19 +0200 (CEST) why would I receive this a dozen times? Just wondering... > From: Hugo Linares > Reply-To: Hugo Linares > Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) > To: parksplace@hotmail.com, zorn-list@lists.xmission.com > Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino > > Hi, > > >> I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which > > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? > > Later, > > Hugo Linares > NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema > > > > > > - > > > - > > > > - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:51:01 +0200 (CEST) On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 04:44:19AM +0200, Rick Lopez wrote: > why would I receive this a dozen times? Just wondering... I suspect that some mailbox somewhere is bouncing things back to the list. It seems less of a problem than happened when someone caused a bounce loop on a list that I ran, causing some 700 instances of a message within an hour (of course, the hour that I was out at lunch and not paying attention). Fortunately, that time a listmember was able to contact the postmaster at the bouncing site and shut it off. This proved that having list messages' Reply-to: value set to loop back to the list is a Bad Thing. -- |> ~The only thing that is not art is inattention~ --- Marcel Duchamp <| | jzitt@metatronpress.com http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt | | Latest CD: Jerusaklyn http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt | | Comma: Voices of New Music Silence: the John Cage Discussion List | - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rick Lopez Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:19 +0200 (CEST) why would I receive this a dozen times? Just wondering... > From: Hugo Linares > Reply-To: Hugo Linares > Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) > To: parksplace@hotmail.com, zorn-list@lists.xmission.com > Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino > > Hi, > > >> I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which > > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? > > Later, > > Hugo Linares > NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema > > > > > > - > > > - > > > > - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:51:01 +0200 (CEST) On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 04:44:19AM +0200, Rick Lopez wrote: > why would I receive this a dozen times? Just wondering... I suspect that some mailbox somewhere is bouncing things back to the list. It seems less of a problem than happened when someone caused a bounce loop on a list that I ran, causing some 700 instances of a message within an hour (of course, the hour that I was out at lunch and not paying attention). Fortunately, that time a listmember was able to contact the postmaster at the bouncing site and shut it off. This proved that having list messages' Reply-to: value set to loop back to the list is a Bad Thing. -- |> ~The only thing that is not art is inattention~ --- Marcel Duchamp <| | jzitt@metatronpress.com http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt | | Latest CD: Jerusaklyn http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt | | Comma: Voices of New Music Silence: the John Cage Discussion List | - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Herb Levy Subject: Re: Later Date: 21 Jun 2001 05:50:45 +0200 (CEST) Hugo Linares wrote: >Later, and apparently really, really meant it. Bests, Herb -- Herb Levy Mappings on Antenna Internet Radio http://www.antennaradio.com/avant/mappings/ mappings@antennaradio.com Mappings P O Box 9369 Forth Wort, TX 76147 - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rick Lopez Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:19 +0200 (CEST) why would I receive this a dozen times? Just wondering... > From: Hugo Linares > Reply-To: Hugo Linares > Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) > To: parksplace@hotmail.com, zorn-list@lists.xmission.com > Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino > > Hi, > > >> I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which > > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? > > Later, > > Hugo Linares > NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema > > > > > > - > > > - > > > > - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Herb Levy Subject: Re: Later Date: 21 Jun 2001 05:50:45 +0200 (CEST) Hugo Linares wrote: >Later, and apparently really, really meant it. Bests, Herb -- Herb Levy Mappings on Antenna Internet Radio http://www.antennaradio.com/avant/mappings/ mappings@antennaradio.com Mappings P O Box 9369 Forth Wort, TX 76147 - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Herb Levy Subject: Re: Later Date: 21 Jun 2001 05:50:45 +0200 (CEST) Hugo Linares wrote: >Later, and apparently really, really meant it. Bests, Herb -- Herb Levy Mappings on Antenna Internet Radio http://www.antennaradio.com/avant/mappings/ mappings@antennaradio.com Mappings P O Box 9369 Forth Wort, TX 76147 - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rick Lopez Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:19 +0200 (CEST) why would I receive this a dozen times? Just wondering... > From: Hugo Linares > Reply-To: Hugo Linares > Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) > To: parksplace@hotmail.com, zorn-list@lists.xmission.com > Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino > > Hi, > > >> I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which > > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? > > Later, > > Hugo Linares > NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema > > > > > > - > > > - > > > > - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rick Lopez Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:19 +0200 (CEST) why would I receive this a dozen times? Just wondering... > From: Hugo Linares > Reply-To: Hugo Linares > Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) > To: parksplace@hotmail.com, zorn-list@lists.xmission.com > Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino > > Hi, > > >> I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which > > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? > > Later, > > Hugo Linares > NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema > > > > > > - > > > - > > > > - - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:51:01 +0200 (CEST) On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 04:44:19AM +0200, Rick Lopez wrote: > why would I receive this a dozen times? Just wondering... I suspect that some mailbox somewhere is bouncing things back to the list. It seems less of a problem than happened when someone caused a bounce loop on a list that I ran, causing some 700 instances of a message within an hour (of course, the hour that I was out at lunch and not paying attention). Fortunately, that time a listmember was able to contact the postmaster at the bouncing site and shut it off. This proved that having list messages' Reply-to: value set to loop back to the list is a Bad Thing. -- |> ~The only thing that is not art is inattention~ --- Marcel Duchamp <| | jzitt@metatronpress.com http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt | | Latest CD: Jerusaklyn http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt | | Comma: Voices of New Music Silence: the John Cage Discussion List | - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rick Lopez Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:19 +0200 (CEST) why would I receive this a dozen times? Just wondering... > From: Hugo Linares > Reply-To: Hugo Linares > Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) > To: parksplace@hotmail.com, zorn-list@lists.xmission.com > Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino > > Hi, > > >> I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which > > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? > > Later, > > Hugo Linares > NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema > > > > > > - > > > - > > > > - - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rick Lopez Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:19 +0200 (CEST) why would I receive this a dozen times? Just wondering... > From: Hugo Linares > Reply-To: Hugo Linares > Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) > To: parksplace@hotmail.com, zorn-list@lists.xmission.com > Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino > > Hi, > > >> I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which > > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? > > Later, > > Hugo Linares > NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema > > > > > > - > > > - > > > > - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rick Lopez Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:19 +0200 (CEST) why would I receive this a dozen times? Just wondering... > From: Hugo Linares > Reply-To: Hugo Linares > Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) > To: parksplace@hotmail.com, zorn-list@lists.xmission.com > Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino > > Hi, > > >> I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which > > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? > > Later, > > Hugo Linares > NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema > > > > > > - > > > - > > > > - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Herb Levy Subject: Re: Later Date: 21 Jun 2001 05:50:45 +0200 (CEST) Hugo Linares wrote: >Later, and apparently really, really meant it. Bests, Herb -- Herb Levy Mappings on Antenna Internet Radio http://www.antennaradio.com/avant/mappings/ mappings@antennaradio.com Mappings P O Box 9369 Forth Wort, TX 76147 - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rick Lopez Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:19 +0200 (CEST) why would I receive this a dozen times? Just wondering... > From: Hugo Linares > Reply-To: Hugo Linares > Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) > To: parksplace@hotmail.com, zorn-list@lists.xmission.com > Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino > > Hi, > > >> I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which > > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? > > Later, > > Hugo Linares > NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema > > > > > > - > > > - > > > > - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rick Lopez Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:19 +0200 (CEST) why would I receive this a dozen times? Just wondering... > From: Hugo Linares > Reply-To: Hugo Linares > Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) > To: parksplace@hotmail.com, zorn-list@lists.xmission.com > Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino > > Hi, > > >> I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which > > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? > > Later, > > Hugo Linares > NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema > > > > > > - > > > - > > > > - - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rick Lopez Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:19 +0200 (CEST) why would I receive this a dozen times? Just wondering... > From: Hugo Linares > Reply-To: Hugo Linares > Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) > To: parksplace@hotmail.com, zorn-list@lists.xmission.com > Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino > > Hi, > > >> I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which > > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? > > Later, > > Hugo Linares > NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema > > > > > > - > > > - > > > > - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:51:01 +0200 (CEST) On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 04:44:19AM +0200, Rick Lopez wrote: > why would I receive this a dozen times? Just wondering... I suspect that some mailbox somewhere is bouncing things back to the list. It seems less of a problem than happened when someone caused a bounce loop on a list that I ran, causing some 700 instances of a message within an hour (of course, the hour that I was out at lunch and not paying attention). Fortunately, that time a listmember was able to contact the postmaster at the bouncing site and shut it off. This proved that having list messages' Reply-to: value set to loop back to the list is a Bad Thing. -- |> ~The only thing that is not art is inattention~ --- Marcel Duchamp <| | jzitt@metatronpress.com http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt | | Latest CD: Jerusaklyn http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt | | Comma: Voices of New Music Silence: the John Cage Discussion List | - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Herb Levy Subject: Re: Later Date: 21 Jun 2001 05:50:45 +0200 (CEST) Hugo Linares wrote: >Later, and apparently really, really meant it. Bests, Herb -- Herb Levy Mappings on Antenna Internet Radio http://www.antennaradio.com/avant/mappings/ mappings@antennaradio.com Mappings P O Box 9369 Forth Wort, TX 76147 - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:51:01 +0200 (CEST) On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 04:44:19AM +0200, Rick Lopez wrote: > why would I receive this a dozen times? Just wondering... I suspect that some mailbox somewhere is bouncing things back to the list. It seems less of a problem than happened when someone caused a bounce loop on a list that I ran, causing some 700 instances of a message within an hour (of course, the hour that I was out at lunch and not paying attention). Fortunately, that time a listmember was able to contact the postmaster at the bouncing site and shut it off. This proved that having list messages' Reply-to: value set to loop back to the list is a Bad Thing. -- |> ~The only thing that is not art is inattention~ --- Marcel Duchamp <| | jzitt@metatronpress.com http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt | | Latest CD: Jerusaklyn http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt | | Comma: Voices of New Music Silence: the John Cage Discussion List | - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rick Lopez Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:19 +0200 (CEST) why would I receive this a dozen times? Just wondering... > From: Hugo Linares > Reply-To: Hugo Linares > Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) > To: parksplace@hotmail.com, zorn-list@lists.xmission.com > Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino > > Hi, > > >> I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which > > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? > > Later, > > Hugo Linares > NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema > > > > > > - > > > - > > > > - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rick Lopez Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:19 +0200 (CEST) why would I receive this a dozen times? Just wondering... > From: Hugo Linares > Reply-To: Hugo Linares > Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) > To: parksplace@hotmail.com, zorn-list@lists.xmission.com > Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino > > Hi, > > >> I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which > > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? > > Later, > > Hugo Linares > NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema > > > > > > - > > > - > > > > - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rick Lopez Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:19 +0200 (CEST) why would I receive this a dozen times? Just wondering... > From: Hugo Linares > Reply-To: Hugo Linares > Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) > To: parksplace@hotmail.com, zorn-list@lists.xmission.com > Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino > > Hi, > > >> I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which > > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? > > Later, > > Hugo Linares > NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema > > > > > > - > > > - > > > > - - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rick Lopez Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:19 +0200 (CEST) why would I receive this a dozen times? Just wondering... > From: Hugo Linares > Reply-To: Hugo Linares > Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) > To: parksplace@hotmail.com, zorn-list@lists.xmission.com > Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino > > Hi, > > >> I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which > > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? > > Later, > > Hugo Linares > NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema > > > > > > - > > > - > > > > - - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Herb Levy Subject: Re: Later Date: 21 Jun 2001 05:50:45 +0200 (CEST) Hugo Linares wrote: >Later, and apparently really, really meant it. Bests, Herb -- Herb Levy Mappings on Antenna Internet Radio http://www.antennaradio.com/avant/mappings/ mappings@antennaradio.com Mappings P O Box 9369 Forth Wort, TX 76147 - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rick Lopez Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:19 +0200 (CEST) why would I receive this a dozen times? Just wondering... > From: Hugo Linares > Reply-To: Hugo Linares > Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) > To: parksplace@hotmail.com, zorn-list@lists.xmission.com > Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino > > Hi, > > >> I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which > > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? > > Later, > > Hugo Linares > NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema > > > > > > - > > > - > > > > - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Herb Levy Subject: Re: Later Date: 21 Jun 2001 05:50:45 +0200 (CEST) Hugo Linares wrote: >Later, and apparently really, really meant it. Bests, Herb -- Herb Levy Mappings on Antenna Internet Radio http://www.antennaradio.com/avant/mappings/ mappings@antennaradio.com Mappings P O Box 9369 Forth Wort, TX 76147 - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rick Lopez Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:19 +0200 (CEST) why would I receive this a dozen times? Just wondering... > From: Hugo Linares > Reply-To: Hugo Linares > Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) > To: parksplace@hotmail.com, zorn-list@lists.xmission.com > Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino > > Hi, > > >> I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which > > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? > > Later, > > Hugo Linares > NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema > > > > > > - > > > - > > > > - - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Herb Levy Subject: Re: Later Date: 21 Jun 2001 05:50:45 +0200 (CEST) Hugo Linares wrote: >Later, and apparently really, really meant it. Bests, Herb -- Herb Levy Mappings on Antenna Internet Radio http://www.antennaradio.com/avant/mappings/ mappings@antennaradio.com Mappings P O Box 9369 Forth Wort, TX 76147 - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Herb Levy Subject: Re: Later Date: 21 Jun 2001 05:50:45 +0200 (CEST) Hugo Linares wrote: >Later, and apparently really, really meant it. Bests, Herb -- Herb Levy Mappings on Antenna Internet Radio http://www.antennaradio.com/avant/mappings/ mappings@antennaradio.com Mappings P O Box 9369 Forth Wort, TX 76147 - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rizzi@browbeat.com (m. rizzi) Subject: zorn-list problem, PLEASE READ THIS NOW Date: 20 Jun 2001 23:20:37 -0700 (PDT) Hey Folks, I just found out about this looped email problem on the zorn-list. I'm looking into it. In the meantime, please hold off posting to the zorn-list until I give the green flag. thanks, mike rizzi zorn-list-owner -- rizzi@browbeat.com <-- NEW ADDRESS, rizzi@netcom.com is dead ! ----- "The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side." -- Hunter S. Thompson - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rick Lopez Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:19 +0200 (CEST) why would I receive this a dozen times? Just wondering... > From: Hugo Linares > Reply-To: Hugo Linares > Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) > To: parksplace@hotmail.com, zorn-list@lists.xmission.com > Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino > > Hi, > > >> I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which > > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? > > Later, > > Hugo Linares > NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema > > > > > > - > > > - > > > > - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "riccardo pioli" Subject: good news: Lindsay Cooper is still with us... Date: 21 Jun 2001 13:15:43 +0100 dear friends, sorry to insist, this subject is everything but funny, i know. "mark caesadler" wrote again: > Lindsay Cooper (female) died early May after suffering from MS for some time. so, to whom it may concern, i wrote directly to chris cutler. this is his answer: >hi riccardo >it's good of you to ask >yes it's the other lindsay cooper who died >our lilly is still cheerful and very much with us, although her >health continues to deteriorate. >best >cc >chris cutler i suggest to people in this list that don't know lindsay's music to listen to many wonderful records in the recommended-rer catalogue: by her name (Rags, The Golddiggers, Oh Moscow, Music for Other Occasions, Sahara Dust, A View from the Bridge, Pia Mater with C. Gray) and with henry cow (Unrest, In Praise of Learning, Concerts, Western Culture), art bears (Hopes and Fears), news from babel (Works Resumed..., Letters Home). but don't miss also her work with the mike westbrook orchestra, hatfield & the north, etc... have a look to: http://www.megacorp.u-net.com all the best. riccardo - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rick Lopez Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:19 +0200 (CEST) why would I receive this a dozen times? Just wondering... > From: Hugo Linares > Reply-To: Hugo Linares > Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) > To: parksplace@hotmail.com, zorn-list@lists.xmission.com > Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino > > Hi, > > >> I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which > > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? > > Later, > > Hugo Linares > NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema > > > > > > - > > > - > > > > - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Herb Levy Subject: Re: Later Date: 21 Jun 2001 05:50:45 +0200 (CEST) Hugo Linares wrote: >Later, and apparently really, really meant it. Bests, Herb -- Herb Levy Mappings on Antenna Internet Radio http://www.antennaradio.com/avant/mappings/ mappings@antennaradio.com Mappings P O Box 9369 Forth Wort, TX 76147 - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hywel Davies Subject: Re: Zorn List Digest V3 #480 Date: 21 Jun 2001 06:28:43 -0700 (PDT) --- Zorn List Digest wrote: > > Zorn List Digest Thursday, June 21 2001 > Volume 03 : Number 480 > > > > In this issue: > - > Re: Johnny Stecchino > Re: Johnny Stecchino > Re: Johnny Stecchino > Re: Johnny Stecchino > good news: Lindsay Cooper is still with us... > Re: Johnny Stecchino > Re: Johnny Stecchino > Re: Johnny Stecchino > RE: Johnny Stecchino > RE: Johnny Stecchino > Re: Johnny Stecchino > RE: Johnny Stecchino > Re: Johnny Stecchino > RE: Johnny Stecchino > Re: Johnny Stecchino > RE: Johnny Stecchino > RE: Johnny Stecchino > Re: Johnny Stecchino > RE: Johnny Stecchino > RE: Johnny Stecchino > Re: Johnny Stecchino > RE: Johnny Stecchino > RE: Johnny Stecchino > Re: Johnny Stecchino > Re: Johnny Stecchino > RE: Johnny Stecchino > Re: Johnny Stecchino > Re: Johnny Stecchino > Re: Johnny Stecchino > Re: Johnny Stecchino > Re: Johnny Stecchino > Re: Later > RE: Johnny Stecchino > RE: Johnny Stecchino > Re: Johnny Stecchino > Re: Johnny Stecchino > Re: Johnny Stecchino > Re: Johnny Stecchino > Re: Johnny Stecchino > > > > Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > From: Nirav Soni > Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino > > > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but > what do you find > > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in > Benigni himself? > > His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's > "Night on Earth." > > Nirav > - -- > AIM: Icefactory37 > OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies > NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass > "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's > all you've got? > Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' > > > > - - > > > - - > > > - - > > > > > > > > - - > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > From: Nirav Soni > Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino > > > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but > what do you find > > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in > Benigni himself? > > His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's > "Night on Earth." > > Nirav > - -- > AIM: Icefactory37 > OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies > NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass > "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's > all you've got? > Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' > > > > - - > > > > > - - > > > > > > > > > - - > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) > From: s~Z > Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino > > NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass > > Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The > Recognitions_ at the > top of my list of all time favorite novels. > > > - - > > > > > > - - > > > - - > > > > > > - - > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) > From: s~Z > Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino > > NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass > > Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The > Recognitions_ at the > top of my list of all time favorite novels. > > > - - > > > > > - - > > > > > - - > > > > > - - > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 13:15:43 +0100 > From: "riccardo pioli" > Subject: good news: Lindsay Cooper is still with > us... > > dear friends, > sorry to insist, this subject is everything but > funny, i know. > > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:51:01 +0200 (CEST) On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 04:44:19AM +0200, Rick Lopez wrote: > why would I receive this a dozen times? Just wondering... I suspect that some mailbox somewhere is bouncing things back to the list. It seems less of a problem than happened when someone caused a bounce loop on a list that I ran, causing some 700 instances of a message within an hour (of course, the hour that I was out at lunch and not paying attention). Fortunately, that time a listmember was able to contact the postmaster at the bouncing site and shut it off. This proved that having list messages' Reply-to: value set to loop back to the list is a Bad Thing. -- |> ~The only thing that is not art is inattention~ --- Marcel Duchamp <| | jzitt@metatronpress.com http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt | | Latest CD: Jerusaklyn http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt | | Comma: Voices of New Music Silence: the John Cage Discussion List | - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Herb Levy Subject: Re: Later Date: 21 Jun 2001 05:50:45 +0200 (CEST) Hugo Linares wrote: >Later, and apparently really, really meant it. Bests, Herb -- Herb Levy Mappings on Antenna Internet Radio http://www.antennaradio.com/avant/mappings/ mappings@antennaradio.com Mappings P O Box 9369 Forth Wort, TX 76147 - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:51:01 +0200 (CEST) On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 04:44:19AM +0200, Rick Lopez wrote: > why would I receive this a dozen times? Just wondering... I suspect that some mailbox somewhere is bouncing things back to the list. It seems less of a problem than happened when someone caused a bounce loop on a list that I ran, causing some 700 instances of a message within an hour (of course, the hour that I was out at lunch and not paying attention). Fortunately, that time a listmember was able to contact the postmaster at the bouncing site and shut it off. This proved that having list messages' Reply-to: value set to loop back to the list is a Bad Thing. -- |> ~The only thing that is not art is inattention~ --- Marcel Duchamp <| | jzitt@metatronpress.com http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt | | Latest CD: Jerusaklyn http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt | | Comma: Voices of New Music Silence: the John Cage Discussion List | - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rick Lopez Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:19 +0200 (CEST) why would I receive this a dozen times? Just wondering... > From: Hugo Linares > Reply-To: Hugo Linares > Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) > To: parksplace@hotmail.com, zorn-list@lists.xmission.com > Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino > > Hi, > > >> I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which > > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? > > Later, > > Hugo Linares > NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema > > > > > > - > > > - > > > > - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rick Lopez Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:19 +0200 (CEST) why would I receive this a dozen times? Just wondering... > From: Hugo Linares > Reply-To: Hugo Linares > Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) > To: parksplace@hotmail.com, zorn-list@lists.xmission.com > Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino > > Hi, > > >> I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which > > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? > > Later, > > Hugo Linares > NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema > > > > > > - > > > - > > > > - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Scott Handley Subject: John Butcher (was re: CHALLENGE reissed!!!) Date: 21 Jun 2001 07:35:25 -0700 (PDT) --- s~Z wrote: > ...and the music reminds me more of > sacred music than Spike > Jones. This short comment is very suggestive; could you elaborate? I realize I might be asking for too much, since the ineffable qualities might be what led you to choose that analogy, but I'm curious...why 'sacred music'? I can see the point about Spike Jones, maybe you mean that Butcher transcends 'mere' technique, that something completely Other creeps out of all that practiced transgression, something, well, _improvised_. Of course, I'm reading all this into your review. Nice review, BTW, in case I'm not being clear... -----s NR: An old issue of SOUND PROJECTOR (some of these record reviews are delightfully hilarious; a Masonna review in particular made me sit-down-laughing). __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rick Lopez Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:19 +0200 (CEST) why would I receive this a dozen times? Just wondering... > From: Hugo Linares > Reply-To: Hugo Linares > Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) > To: parksplace@hotmail.com, zorn-list@lists.xmission.com > Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino > > Hi, > > >> I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which > > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? > > Later, > > Hugo Linares > NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema > > > > > > - > > > - > > > > - - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bob Kowalski" Subject: johnny bang! - bang! stecchino / million dollar hotel Date: 21 Jun 2001 10:48:13 -0400 Thank goodness for listserv digest format ; ) All the soundtracks (3 full length released, I believe) that Evan Lurie = did for Benigni's films are wonderful=20 I enjoy the End of Violence sndtrk (actually don't have the separate Ry = Cooder version - any recommendations?) very much, including the Bono/Sinead= track. Is there enough music from the frisell/cohen ...et al line up to = warrant snapping it up? I'm wearing out Blues Dream... happy listening Bob np: ray corvair trio - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugo Linares Subject: RE: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Hi, > I just watched the wonderful Roberto Benigni film "Johnny Stecchino" which Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? Later, Hugo Linares NP: Thelonious Monk and his quartet _ En Concert_ Trema - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nirav Soni Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 03:51:22 +0200 (CEST) > Didn't watch Benigni's "Johnny Stecchino" yet, but what do you find > "wonderful" in Benigni's filmography or even in Benigni himself? His extended taxicab monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth." Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- Lightning Bolt- Ride the Skies NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass "Wheeler: A game-legged old man and a drunk- that's all you've got? Chance: That's *what* I've got" -from 'Rio Bravo' - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Herb Levy Subject: Re: Later Date: 21 Jun 2001 05:50:45 +0200 (CEST) Hugo Linares wrote: >Later, and apparently really, really meant it. Bests, Herb -- Herb Levy Mappings on Antenna Internet Radio http://www.antennaradio.com/avant/mappings/ mappings@antennaradio.com Mappings P O Box 9369 Forth Wort, TX 76147 - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rizzi@browbeat.com (m. rizzi) Subject: zorn-list problem fixed, I hope Date: 21 Jun 2001 08:51:31 -0700 (PDT) Hey Folks, There was an email loop happening yesterday on xmission.com on the zorn-list. Duh. ;) It ended up overloading the server machine that runs xmissions mailing lists, causing them to have to reboot the hung machine. (the zorn-list is SO powerful :) Hopefully, this fixed the problem. If you only get this test message once, then feel free to resume discussions. Speaking of, since the server got overloaded some messages sent last night might be lost, so you will need to resend them (except for you Hugo...just kidding). crossing fingers, mike rizzi zorn-list-whip-cracker -- rizzi@browbeat.com <-- NEW ADDRESS, rizzi@netcom.com is dead ! ----- "The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side." -- Hunter S. Thompson - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "s~Z" Subject: Re: John Butcher (was re: CHALLENGE reissed!!!) Date: 21 Jun 2001 09:17:10 -0700 --- s~Z wrote: > ...and the music reminds me more of > sacred music than Spike > Jones. >>>...why 'sacred music'? I can see the point about Spike Jones, maybe you mean that Butcher transcends 'mere' technique, that something completely Other creeps out of all that practiced transgression<<<, I meant it more in a technical way. On the one hand, even though he used the instruments in outrageously nontraditional ways, the performance drew very little attention to him, and a lot of attention to the music and sound. And more specifically, his technique reminded me of the sacred music in various monastic traditions in which the practitioners learn how to control the vibrations of different parts of their anatomy (jaw, vocal chords, etc.) as well as the interactions among the overtones to create very complex soundscapes even when chanting solo. Butcher is a master at creating split tones and other simultaneous sounds with his extended techniques while consciously playing around with the harmonics thus created. Sometimes it sounded like he was a quartet (and not 4 saxophones), yet again, it was all very beautiful and well crafted, not just a show of technique. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Scott Handley Subject: Re: John Butcher (was re: CHALLENGE reissed!!!) Date: 21 Jun 2001 10:17:05 -0700 (PDT) --- s~Z wrote: > And > more specifically, his technique reminded me of the > sacred music in various > monastic traditions in which the practitioners learn > how to control the > vibrations of different parts of their anatomy (jaw, > vocal chords, etc.) as > well as the interactions among the overtones to > create very complex > soundscapes even when chanting solo. I don't want to push this too OT, but this seems rather close to list interest: I'm reminded of comments of Anthony Braxton's (to G. Locke, IIRC) about Heldegaard of Bingen's (sic) music allowing for some measure of improvisation and freedom in a singing body, and here I mean "body of people", whether a congregation or choir I cannot remember. That, in turn brings me to the idea of a composition that allows, no, requires creative participation; this could be seen as a chance element, but not really, if you work like Zorn or Ellington and martial the forces of individuals you know and trust (to surprise you, and not just due their proximity to one another). All this said: could you furnish some examples of said monastic traditions? Are there recordings or writings that would be useful for learning about them? ----s, dissertatin' NP: [N:Q] - s/t (Fibrr Records, 2001) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "s~Z" Subject: Re: John Butcher (was re: CHALLENGE reissed!!!) Date: 21 Jun 2001 10:41:46 -0700 >>>could you furnish some examples of said monastic traditions? Are there recordings or writings that would be useful for learning about them?<<< http://www.sciam.com/1999/0999issue/0999levin.html http://www.phapviet.com/~tranqh/france/tibetan.htm http://www.toshima.ne.jp/~edogiku/TibetDisk.html (I prefer the Nonesuch releases.) http://harmonicworld.com/ http://www.speech.kth.se/music/publications/leofuks/thesis/contents.html - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Patrice L. Roussel" Subject: what is ACTION FIGURE PARTY Date: 21 Jun 2001 13:07:57 -0700 Does anybody have comments on the following record: *** - ACTION FIGURE PARTY Greg Kurstin; Flea; Yuval Gabay; Sean Lennon; Miho Hatori; etc. 2001 - Blue Thumb Records (USA), 314 543 417-2 (CD) BTW, what is ACTION FIGURE PARTY? Patrice (TV clueless). - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Alan Lankin" Subject: Re: zorn-list problem fixed, I hope Date: 21 Jun 2001 18:00:15 -0400 For a while I thought we were stuck in some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. Philip Glass composition. Philip Glass composition. position. position. compost it. compost. compost. post. post. sit. sit. sit. ion. ion. . . . . Alan Lankin lankina@att.net np: (not playing) Glass - "Col-on-o-scop-y" ----- Original Message ----- Sent: June 21, 2001 11:51 AM > Hey Folks, > There was an email loop happening yesterday on xmission.com > on the zorn-list. Duh. ;) > It ended up overloading the server machine that runs xmissions > mailing lists, causing them to have to reboot the hung machine. > (the zorn-list is SO powerful :) > > [....] > > crossing fingers, > mike rizzi > zorn-list-whip-cracker > > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Alan Lankin" Subject: Re: what is ACTION FIGURE PARTY Date: 21 Jun 2001 18:02:16 -0400 According to the ad for the Philly Avenue of the Arts Tower Records in-store "Action Figure Party" party tomorrow afternoon, the group "Action Figure Party" is "superheroes of alternative rock jam out with funky, jazz, groves [sic]." and "as heard on WXPN." I'm afraid I won't be able to check out the groves personally... Alan Lankin lankina@att.net http://jazzmatazz.home.att.net ----- Original Message ----- Cc: Sent: June 21, 2001 4:07 PM > > Does anybody have comments on the following record: > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > *** - ACTION FIGURE PARTY > > Greg Kurstin; Flea; Yuval Gabay; Sean Lennon; Miho Hatori; etc. > > 2001 - Blue Thumb Records (USA), 314 543 417-2 (CD) > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > BTW, what is ACTION FIGURE PARTY? > > Patrice (TV clueless). > > - > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Herb Levy Subject: Re: Later Date: 21 Jun 2001 05:50:45 +0200 (CEST) Hugo Linares wrote: >Later, and apparently really, really meant it. Bests, Herb -- Herb Levy Mappings on Antenna Internet Radio http://www.antennaradio.com/avant/mappings/ mappings@antennaradio.com Mappings P O Box 9369 Forth Wort, TX 76147 - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alan Lankin Subject: Re: zorn-list problem fixed, I hope Date: 22 Jun 2001 00:00:15 +0200 (CEST) For a while I thought we were stuck in some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. Philip Glass composition. Philip Glass composition. position. position. compost it. compost. compost. post. post. sit. sit. sit. ion. ion. .. .. .. .. Alan Lankin lankina@att.net np: (not playing) Glass - "Col-on-o-scop-y" ----- Original Message ----- Sent: June 21, 2001 11:51 AM > Hey Folks, > There was an email loop happening yesterday on xmission.com > on the zorn-list. Duh. ;) > It ended up overloading the server machine that runs xmissions > mailing lists, causing them to have to reboot the hung machine. > (the zorn-list is SO powerful :) > > [....] > > crossing fingers, > mike rizzi > zorn-list-whip-cracker > > - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alan Lankin Subject: Re: what is ACTION FIGURE PARTY Date: 22 Jun 2001 00:02:16 +0200 (CEST) According to the ad for the Philly Avenue of the Arts Tower Records in-store "Action Figure Party" party tomorrow afternoon, the group "Action Figure Party" is "superheroes of alternative rock jam out with funky, jazz, groves [sic]." and "as heard on WXPN." I'm afraid I won't be able to check out the groves personally... Alan Lankin lankina@att.net http://jazzmatazz.home.att.net ----- Original Message ----- Cc: Sent: June 21, 2001 4:07 PM > > Does anybody have comments on the following record: > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > *** - ACTION FIGURE PARTY > > Greg Kurstin; Flea; Yuval Gabay; Sean Lennon; Miho Hatori; etc. > > 2001 - Blue Thumb Records (USA), 314 543 417-2 (CD) > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > BTW, what is ACTION FIGURE PARTY? > > Patrice (TV clueless). > > - > - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alan Lankin Subject: Re: zorn-list problem fixed, I hope Date: 22 Jun 2001 00:00:15 +0200 (CEST) For a while I thought we were stuck in some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. Philip Glass composition. Philip Glass composition. position. position. compost it. compost. compost. post. post. sit. sit. sit. ion. ion. ... ... ... ... Alan Lankin lankina@att.net np: (not playing) Glass - "Col-on-o-scop-y" ----- Original Message ----- Sent: June 21, 2001 11:51 AM > Hey Folks, > There was an email loop happening yesterday on xmission.com > on the zorn-list. Duh. ;) > It ended up overloading the server machine that runs xmissions > mailing lists, causing them to have to reboot the hung machine. > (the zorn-list is SO powerful :) > > [....] > > crossing fingers, > mike rizzi > zorn-list-whip-cracker > > - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alan Lankin Subject: Re: what is ACTION FIGURE PARTY Date: 22 Jun 2001 00:02:16 +0200 (CEST) According to the ad for the Philly Avenue of the Arts Tower Records in-store "Action Figure Party" party tomorrow afternoon, the group "Action Figure Party" is "superheroes of alternative rock jam out with funky, jazz, groves [sic]." and "as heard on WXPN." I'm afraid I won't be able to check out the groves personally... Alan Lankin lankina@att.net http://jazzmatazz.home.att.net ----- Original Message ----- Cc: Sent: June 21, 2001 4:07 PM > > Does anybody have comments on the following record: > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > *** - ACTION FIGURE PARTY > > Greg Kurstin; Flea; Yuval Gabay; Sean Lennon; Miho Hatori; etc. > > 2001 - Blue Thumb Records (USA), 314 543 417-2 (CD) > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > BTW, what is ACTION FIGURE PARTY? > > Patrice (TV clueless). > > - > - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Herb Levy Subject: Re: Later Date: 21 Jun 2001 05:50:45 +0200 (CEST) Hugo Linares wrote: >Later, and apparently really, really meant it. Bests, Herb -- Herb Levy Mappings on Antenna Internet Radio http://www.antennaradio.com/avant/mappings/ mappings@antennaradio.com Mappings P O Box 9369 Forth Wort, TX 76147 - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alan Lankin Subject: Re: zorn-list problem fixed, I hope Date: 22 Jun 2001 00:00:15 +0200 (CEST) For a while I thought we were stuck in some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. Philip Glass composition. Philip Glass composition. position. position. compost it. compost. compost. post. post. sit. sit. sit. ion. ion. ... ... ... ... Alan Lankin lankina@att.net np: (not playing) Glass - "Col-on-o-scop-y" ----- Original Message ----- Sent: June 21, 2001 11:51 AM > Hey Folks, > There was an email loop happening yesterday on xmission.com > on the zorn-list. Duh. ;) > It ended up overloading the server machine that runs xmissions > mailing lists, causing them to have to reboot the hung machine. > (the zorn-list is SO powerful :) > > [....] > > crossing fingers, > mike rizzi > zorn-list-whip-cracker > > - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alan Lankin Subject: Re: what is ACTION FIGURE PARTY Date: 22 Jun 2001 00:02:16 +0200 (CEST) According to the ad for the Philly Avenue of the Arts Tower Records in-store "Action Figure Party" party tomorrow afternoon, the group "Action Figure Party" is "superheroes of alternative rock jam out with funky, jazz, groves [sic]." and "as heard on WXPN." I'm afraid I won't be able to check out the groves personally... Alan Lankin lankina@att.net http://jazzmatazz.home.att.net ----- Original Message ----- Cc: Sent: June 21, 2001 4:07 PM > > Does anybody have comments on the following record: > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > *** - ACTION FIGURE PARTY > > Greg Kurstin; Flea; Yuval Gabay; Sean Lennon; Miho Hatori; etc. > > 2001 - Blue Thumb Records (USA), 314 543 417-2 (CD) > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > BTW, what is ACTION FIGURE PARTY? > > Patrice (TV clueless). > > - > - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alan Lankin Subject: Re: what is ACTION FIGURE PARTY Date: 22 Jun 2001 00:02:16 +0200 (CEST) According to the ad for the Philly Avenue of the Arts Tower Records in-store "Action Figure Party" party tomorrow afternoon, the group "Action Figure Party" is "superheroes of alternative rock jam out with funky, jazz, groves [sic]." and "as heard on WXPN." I'm afraid I won't be able to check out the groves personally... Alan Lankin lankina@att.net http://jazzmatazz.home.att.net ----- Original Message ----- Cc: Sent: June 21, 2001 4:07 PM > > Does anybody have comments on the following record: > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > *** - ACTION FIGURE PARTY > > Greg Kurstin; Flea; Yuval Gabay; Sean Lennon; Miho Hatori; etc. > > 2001 - Blue Thumb Records (USA), 314 543 417-2 (CD) > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > BTW, what is ACTION FIGURE PARTY? > > Patrice (TV clueless). > > - > - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alan Lankin Subject: Re: what is ACTION FIGURE PARTY Date: 22 Jun 2001 00:02:16 +0200 (CEST) According to the ad for the Philly Avenue of the Arts Tower Records in-store "Action Figure Party" party tomorrow afternoon, the group "Action Figure Party" is "superheroes of alternative rock jam out with funky, jazz, groves [sic]." and "as heard on WXPN." I'm afraid I won't be able to check out the groves personally... Alan Lankin lankina@att.net http://jazzmatazz.home.att.net ----- Original Message ----- Cc: Sent: June 21, 2001 4:07 PM > > Does anybody have comments on the following record: > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > *** - ACTION FIGURE PARTY > > Greg Kurstin; Flea; Yuval Gabay; Sean Lennon; Miho Hatori; etc. > > 2001 - Blue Thumb Records (USA), 314 543 417-2 (CD) > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > BTW, what is ACTION FIGURE PARTY? > > Patrice (TV clueless). > > - > - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alan Lankin Subject: Re: what is ACTION FIGURE PARTY Date: 22 Jun 2001 00:02:16 +0200 (CEST) According to the ad for the Philly Avenue of the Arts Tower Records in-store "Action Figure Party" party tomorrow afternoon, the group "Action Figure Party" is "superheroes of alternative rock jam out with funky, jazz, groves [sic]." and "as heard on WXPN." I'm afraid I won't be able to check out the groves personally... Alan Lankin lankina@att.net http://jazzmatazz.home.att.net ----- Original Message ----- Cc: Sent: June 21, 2001 4:07 PM > > Does anybody have comments on the following record: > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > *** - ACTION FIGURE PARTY > > Greg Kurstin; Flea; Yuval Gabay; Sean Lennon; Miho Hatori; etc. > > 2001 - Blue Thumb Records (USA), 314 543 417-2 (CD) > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > BTW, what is ACTION FIGURE PARTY? > > Patrice (TV clueless). > > - > - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alan Lankin Subject: Re: zorn-list problem fixed, I hope Date: 22 Jun 2001 00:00:15 +0200 (CEST) For a while I thought we were stuck in some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. Philip Glass composition. Philip Glass composition. position. position. compost it. compost. compost. post. post. sit. sit. sit. ion. ion. .... .... .... .... Alan Lankin lankina@att.net np: (not playing) Glass - "Col-on-o-scop-y" ----- Original Message ----- Sent: June 21, 2001 11:51 AM > Hey Folks, > There was an email loop happening yesterday on xmission.com > on the zorn-list. Duh. ;) > It ended up overloading the server machine that runs xmissions > mailing lists, causing them to have to reboot the hung machine. > (the zorn-list is SO powerful :) > > [....] > > crossing fingers, > mike rizzi > zorn-list-whip-cracker > > - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alan Lankin Subject: Re: what is ACTION FIGURE PARTY Date: 22 Jun 2001 00:02:16 +0200 (CEST) According to the ad for the Philly Avenue of the Arts Tower Records in-store "Action Figure Party" party tomorrow afternoon, the group "Action Figure Party" is "superheroes of alternative rock jam out with funky, jazz, groves [sic]." and "as heard on WXPN." I'm afraid I won't be able to check out the groves personally... Alan Lankin lankina@att.net http://jazzmatazz.home.att.net ----- Original Message ----- Cc: Sent: June 21, 2001 4:07 PM > > Does anybody have comments on the following record: > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > *** - ACTION FIGURE PARTY > > Greg Kurstin; Flea; Yuval Gabay; Sean Lennon; Miho Hatori; etc. > > 2001 - Blue Thumb Records (USA), 314 543 417-2 (CD) > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > BTW, what is ACTION FIGURE PARTY? > > Patrice (TV clueless). > > - > - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Herb Levy Subject: Re: Later Date: 21 Jun 2001 05:50:45 +0200 (CEST) Hugo Linares wrote: >Later, and apparently really, really meant it. Bests, Herb -- Herb Levy Mappings on Antenna Internet Radio http://www.antennaradio.com/avant/mappings/ mappings@antennaradio.com Mappings P O Box 9369 Forth Wort, TX 76147 - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Herb Levy Subject: Re: Later Date: 21 Jun 2001 05:50:45 +0200 (CEST) Hugo Linares wrote: >Later, and apparently really, really meant it. Bests, Herb -- Herb Levy Mappings on Antenna Internet Radio http://www.antennaradio.com/avant/mappings/ mappings@antennaradio.com Mappings P O Box 9369 Forth Wort, TX 76147 - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alan Lankin Subject: Re: zorn-list problem fixed, I hope Date: 22 Jun 2001 00:00:15 +0200 (CEST) For a while I thought we were stuck in some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. Philip Glass composition. Philip Glass composition. position. position. compost it. compost. compost. post. post. sit. sit. sit. ion. ion. .... .... .... .... Alan Lankin lankina@att.net np: (not playing) Glass - "Col-on-o-scop-y" ----- Original Message ----- Sent: June 21, 2001 11:51 AM > Hey Folks, > There was an email loop happening yesterday on xmission.com > on the zorn-list. Duh. ;) > It ended up overloading the server machine that runs xmissions > mailing lists, causing them to have to reboot the hung machine. > (the zorn-list is SO powerful :) > > [....] > > crossing fingers, > mike rizzi > zorn-list-whip-cracker > > - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alan Lankin Subject: Re: zorn-list problem fixed, I hope Date: 22 Jun 2001 00:00:15 +0200 (CEST) For a while I thought we were stuck in some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. Philip Glass composition. Philip Glass composition. position. position. compost it. compost. compost. post. post. sit. sit. sit. ion. ion. .... .... .... .... Alan Lankin lankina@att.net np: (not playing) Glass - "Col-on-o-scop-y" ----- Original Message ----- Sent: June 21, 2001 11:51 AM > Hey Folks, > There was an email loop happening yesterday on xmission.com > on the zorn-list. Duh. ;) > It ended up overloading the server machine that runs xmissions > mailing lists, causing them to have to reboot the hung machine. > (the zorn-list is SO powerful :) > > [....] > > crossing fingers, > mike rizzi > zorn-list-whip-cracker > > - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alan Lankin Subject: Re: what is ACTION FIGURE PARTY Date: 22 Jun 2001 00:02:16 +0200 (CEST) According to the ad for the Philly Avenue of the Arts Tower Records in-store "Action Figure Party" party tomorrow afternoon, the group "Action Figure Party" is "superheroes of alternative rock jam out with funky, jazz, groves [sic]." and "as heard on WXPN." I'm afraid I won't be able to check out the groves personally... Alan Lankin lankina@att.net http://jazzmatazz.home.att.net ----- Original Message ----- Cc: Sent: June 21, 2001 4:07 PM > > Does anybody have comments on the following record: > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > *** - ACTION FIGURE PARTY > > Greg Kurstin; Flea; Yuval Gabay; Sean Lennon; Miho Hatori; etc. > > 2001 - Blue Thumb Records (USA), 314 543 417-2 (CD) > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > BTW, what is ACTION FIGURE PARTY? > > Patrice (TV clueless). > > - > - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alan Lankin Subject: Re: zorn-list problem fixed, I hope Date: 22 Jun 2001 00:00:15 +0200 (CEST) For a while I thought we were stuck in some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. Philip Glass composition. Philip Glass composition. position. position. compost it. compost. compost. post. post. sit. sit. sit. ion. ion. ..... ..... ..... ..... Alan Lankin lankina@att.net np: (not playing) Glass - "Col-on-o-scop-y" ----- Original Message ----- Sent: June 21, 2001 11:51 AM > Hey Folks, > There was an email loop happening yesterday on xmission.com > on the zorn-list. Duh. ;) > It ended up overloading the server machine that runs xmissions > mailing lists, causing them to have to reboot the hung machine. > (the zorn-list is SO powerful :) > > [....] > > crossing fingers, > mike rizzi > zorn-list-whip-cracker > > - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alan Lankin Subject: Re: what is ACTION FIGURE PARTY Date: 22 Jun 2001 00:02:16 +0200 (CEST) According to the ad for the Philly Avenue of the Arts Tower Records in-store "Action Figure Party" party tomorrow afternoon, the group "Action Figure Party" is "superheroes of alternative rock jam out with funky, jazz, groves [sic]." and "as heard on WXPN." I'm afraid I won't be able to check out the groves personally... Alan Lankin lankina@att.net http://jazzmatazz.home.att.net ----- Original Message ----- Cc: Sent: June 21, 2001 4:07 PM > > Does anybody have comments on the following record: > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > *** - ACTION FIGURE PARTY > > Greg Kurstin; Flea; Yuval Gabay; Sean Lennon; Miho Hatori; etc. > > 2001 - Blue Thumb Records (USA), 314 543 417-2 (CD) > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > BTW, what is ACTION FIGURE PARTY? > > Patrice (TV clueless). > > - > - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alan Lankin Subject: Re: zorn-list problem fixed, I hope Date: 22 Jun 2001 00:00:15 +0200 (CEST) For a while I thought we were stuck in some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. Philip Glass composition. Philip Glass composition. position. position. compost it. compost. compost. post. post. sit. sit. sit. ion. ion. ..... ..... ..... ..... Alan Lankin lankina@att.net np: (not playing) Glass - "Col-on-o-scop-y" ----- Original Message ----- Sent: June 21, 2001 11:51 AM > Hey Folks, > There was an email loop happening yesterday on xmission.com > on the zorn-list. Duh. ;) > It ended up overloading the server machine that runs xmissions > mailing lists, causing them to have to reboot the hung machine. > (the zorn-list is SO powerful :) > > [....] > > crossing fingers, > mike rizzi > zorn-list-whip-cracker > > - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alan Lankin Subject: Re: zorn-list problem fixed, I hope Date: 22 Jun 2001 00:00:15 +0200 (CEST) For a while I thought we were stuck in some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. Philip Glass composition. Philip Glass composition. position. position. compost it. compost. compost. post. post. sit. sit. sit. ion. ion. ..... ..... ..... ..... Alan Lankin lankina@att.net np: (not playing) Glass - "Col-on-o-scop-y" ----- Original Message ----- Sent: June 21, 2001 11:51 AM > Hey Folks, > There was an email loop happening yesterday on xmission.com > on the zorn-list. Duh. ;) > It ended up overloading the server machine that runs xmissions > mailing lists, causing them to have to reboot the hung machine. > (the zorn-list is SO powerful :) > > [....] > > crossing fingers, > mike rizzi > zorn-list-whip-cracker > > - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alan Lankin Subject: Re: what is ACTION FIGURE PARTY Date: 22 Jun 2001 00:02:16 +0200 (CEST) According to the ad for the Philly Avenue of the Arts Tower Records in-store "Action Figure Party" party tomorrow afternoon, the group "Action Figure Party" is "superheroes of alternative rock jam out with funky, jazz, groves [sic]." and "as heard on WXPN." I'm afraid I won't be able to check out the groves personally... Alan Lankin lankina@att.net http://jazzmatazz.home.att.net ----- Original Message ----- Cc: Sent: June 21, 2001 4:07 PM > > Does anybody have comments on the following record: > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > *** - ACTION FIGURE PARTY > > Greg Kurstin; Flea; Yuval Gabay; Sean Lennon; Miho Hatori; etc. > > 2001 - Blue Thumb Records (USA), 314 543 417-2 (CD) > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > BTW, what is ACTION FIGURE PARTY? > > Patrice (TV clueless). > > - > - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Herb Levy Subject: Re: Later Date: 21 Jun 2001 05:50:45 +0200 (CEST) Hugo Linares wrote: >Later, and apparently really, really meant it. Bests, Herb -- Herb Levy Mappings on Antenna Internet Radio http://www.antennaradio.com/avant/mappings/ mappings@antennaradio.com Mappings P O Box 9369 Forth Wort, TX 76147 - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alan Lankin Subject: Re: zorn-list problem fixed, I hope Date: 22 Jun 2001 00:00:15 +0200 (CEST) For a while I thought we were stuck in some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. Philip Glass composition. Philip Glass composition. position. position. compost it. compost. compost. post. post. sit. sit. sit. ion. ion. ..... ..... ..... ..... Alan Lankin lankina@att.net np: (not playing) Glass - "Col-on-o-scop-y" ----- Original Message ----- Sent: June 21, 2001 11:51 AM > Hey Folks, > There was an email loop happening yesterday on xmission.com > on the zorn-list. Duh. ;) > It ended up overloading the server machine that runs xmissions > mailing lists, causing them to have to reboot the hung machine. > (the zorn-list is SO powerful :) > > [....] > > crossing fingers, > mike rizzi > zorn-list-whip-cracker > > - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alan Lankin Subject: Re: zorn-list problem fixed, I hope Date: 22 Jun 2001 00:00:15 +0200 (CEST) For a while I thought we were stuck in some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. Philip Glass composition. Philip Glass composition. position. position. compost it. compost. compost. post. post. sit. sit. sit. ion. ion. .... .... .... .... Alan Lankin lankina@att.net np: (not playing) Glass - "Col-on-o-scop-y" ----- Original Message ----- Sent: June 21, 2001 11:51 AM > Hey Folks, > There was an email loop happening yesterday on xmission.com > on the zorn-list. Duh. ;) > It ended up overloading the server machine that runs xmissions > mailing lists, causing them to have to reboot the hung machine. > (the zorn-list is SO powerful :) > > [....] > > crossing fingers, > mike rizzi > zorn-list-whip-cracker > > - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alan Lankin Subject: Re: what is ACTION FIGURE PARTY Date: 22 Jun 2001 00:02:16 +0200 (CEST) According to the ad for the Philly Avenue of the Arts Tower Records in-store "Action Figure Party" party tomorrow afternoon, the group "Action Figure Party" is "superheroes of alternative rock jam out with funky, jazz, groves [sic]." and "as heard on WXPN." I'm afraid I won't be able to check out the groves personally... Alan Lankin lankina@att.net http://jazzmatazz.home.att.net ----- Original Message ----- Cc: Sent: June 21, 2001 4:07 PM > > Does anybody have comments on the following record: > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > *** - ACTION FIGURE PARTY > > Greg Kurstin; Flea; Yuval Gabay; Sean Lennon; Miho Hatori; etc. > > 2001 - Blue Thumb Records (USA), 314 543 417-2 (CD) > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > BTW, what is ACTION FIGURE PARTY? > > Patrice (TV clueless). > > - > - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alan Lankin Subject: Re: what is ACTION FIGURE PARTY Date: 22 Jun 2001 00:02:16 +0200 (CEST) According to the ad for the Philly Avenue of the Arts Tower Records in-store "Action Figure Party" party tomorrow afternoon, the group "Action Figure Party" is "superheroes of alternative rock jam out with funky, jazz, groves [sic]." and "as heard on WXPN." I'm afraid I won't be able to check out the groves personally... Alan Lankin lankina@att.net http://jazzmatazz.home.att.net ----- Original Message ----- Cc: Sent: June 21, 2001 4:07 PM > > Does anybody have comments on the following record: > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > *** - ACTION FIGURE PARTY > > Greg Kurstin; Flea; Yuval Gabay; Sean Lennon; Miho Hatori; etc. > > 2001 - Blue Thumb Records (USA), 314 543 417-2 (CD) > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > BTW, what is ACTION FIGURE PARTY? > > Patrice (TV clueless). > > - > - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alan Lankin Subject: Re: zorn-list problem fixed, I hope Date: 22 Jun 2001 00:00:15 +0200 (CEST) For a while I thought we were stuck in some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. Philip Glass composition. Philip Glass composition. position. position. compost it. compost. compost. post. post. sit. sit. sit. ion. ion. ..... ..... ..... ..... Alan Lankin lankina@att.net np: (not playing) Glass - "Col-on-o-scop-y" ----- Original Message ----- Sent: June 21, 2001 11:51 AM > Hey Folks, > There was an email loop happening yesterday on xmission.com > on the zorn-list. Duh. ;) > It ended up overloading the server machine that runs xmissions > mailing lists, causing them to have to reboot the hung machine. > (the zorn-list is SO powerful :) > > [....] > > crossing fingers, > mike rizzi > zorn-list-whip-cracker > > - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alan Lankin Subject: Re: what is ACTION FIGURE PARTY Date: 22 Jun 2001 00:02:16 +0200 (CEST) According to the ad for the Philly Avenue of the Arts Tower Records in-store "Action Figure Party" party tomorrow afternoon, the group "Action Figure Party" is "superheroes of alternative rock jam out with funky, jazz, groves [sic]." and "as heard on WXPN." I'm afraid I won't be able to check out the groves personally... Alan Lankin lankina@att.net http://jazzmatazz.home.att.net ----- Original Message ----- Cc: Sent: June 21, 2001 4:07 PM > > Does anybody have comments on the following record: > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > *** - ACTION FIGURE PARTY > > Greg Kurstin; Flea; Yuval Gabay; Sean Lennon; Miho Hatori; etc. > > 2001 - Blue Thumb Records (USA), 314 543 417-2 (CD) > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > BTW, what is ACTION FIGURE PARTY? > > Patrice (TV clueless). > > - > - - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alan Lankin Subject: Re: zorn-list problem fixed, I hope Date: 22 Jun 2001 00:00:15 +0200 (CEST) For a while I thought we were stuck in some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. Philip Glass composition. Philip Glass composition. position. position. compost it. compost. compost. post. post. sit. sit. sit. ion. ion. ..... ..... ..... ..... Alan Lankin lankina@att.net np: (not playing) Glass - "Col-on-o-scop-y" ----- Original Message ----- Sent: June 21, 2001 11:51 AM > Hey Folks, > There was an email loop happening yesterday on xmission.com > on the zorn-list. Duh. ;) > It ended up overloading the server machine that runs xmissions > mailing lists, causing them to have to reboot the hung machine. > (the zorn-list is SO powerful :) > > [....] > > crossing fingers, > mike rizzi > zorn-list-whip-cracker > > - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Herb Levy Subject: Re: Later Date: 21 Jun 2001 05:50:45 +0200 (CEST) Hugo Linares wrote: >Later, and apparently really, really meant it. Bests, Herb -- Herb Levy Mappings on Antenna Internet Radio http://www.antennaradio.com/avant/mappings/ mappings@antennaradio.com Mappings P O Box 9369 Forth Wort, TX 76147 - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alan Lankin Subject: Re: zorn-list problem fixed, I hope Date: 22 Jun 2001 00:00:15 +0200 (CEST) For a while I thought we were stuck in some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. Philip Glass composition. Philip Glass composition. position. position. compost it. compost. compost. post. post. sit. sit. sit. ion. ion. ...... ...... ...... ...... Alan Lankin lankina@att.net np: (not playing) Glass - "Col-on-o-scop-y" ----- Original Message ----- Sent: June 21, 2001 11:51 AM > Hey Folks, > There was an email loop happening yesterday on xmission.com > on the zorn-list. Duh. ;) > It ended up overloading the server machine that runs xmissions > mailing lists, causing them to have to reboot the hung machine. > (the zorn-list is SO powerful :) > > [....] > > crossing fingers, > mike rizzi > zorn-list-whip-cracker > > - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alan Lankin Subject: Re: zorn-list problem fixed, I hope Date: 22 Jun 2001 00:00:15 +0200 (CEST) For a while I thought we were stuck in some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. Philip Glass composition. Philip Glass composition. position. position. compost it. compost. compost. post. post. sit. sit. sit. ion. ion. ...... ...... ...... ...... Alan Lankin lankina@att.net np: (not playing) Glass - "Col-on-o-scop-y" ----- Original Message ----- Sent: June 21, 2001 11:51 AM > Hey Folks, > There was an email loop happening yesterday on xmission.com > on the zorn-list. Duh. ;) > It ended up overloading the server machine that runs xmissions > mailing lists, causing them to have to reboot the hung machine. > (the zorn-list is SO powerful :) > > [....] > > crossing fingers, > mike rizzi > zorn-list-whip-cracker > > - - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alan Lankin Subject: Re: what is ACTION FIGURE PARTY Date: 22 Jun 2001 00:02:16 +0200 (CEST) According to the ad for the Philly Avenue of the Arts Tower Records in-store "Action Figure Party" party tomorrow afternoon, the group "Action Figure Party" is "superheroes of alternative rock jam out with funky, jazz, groves [sic]." and "as heard on WXPN." I'm afraid I won't be able to check out the groves personally... Alan Lankin lankina@att.net http://jazzmatazz.home.att.net ----- Original Message ----- Cc: Sent: June 21, 2001 4:07 PM > > Does anybody have comments on the following record: > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > *** - ACTION FIGURE PARTY > > Greg Kurstin; Flea; Yuval Gabay; Sean Lennon; Miho Hatori; etc. > > 2001 - Blue Thumb Records (USA), 314 543 417-2 (CD) > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > BTW, what is ACTION FIGURE PARTY? > > Patrice (TV clueless). > > - > - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alan Lankin Subject: Re: zorn-list problem fixed, I hope Date: 22 Jun 2001 00:00:15 +0200 (CEST) For a while I thought we were stuck in some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. Philip Glass composition. Philip Glass composition. position. position. compost it. compost. compost. post. post. sit. sit. sit. ion. ion. ...... ...... ...... ...... Alan Lankin lankina@att.net np: (not playing) Glass - "Col-on-o-scop-y" ----- Original Message ----- Sent: June 21, 2001 11:51 AM > Hey Folks, > There was an email loop happening yesterday on xmission.com > on the zorn-list. Duh. ;) > It ended up overloading the server machine that runs xmissions > mailing lists, causing them to have to reboot the hung machine. > (the zorn-list is SO powerful :) > > [....] > > crossing fingers, > mike rizzi > zorn-list-whip-cracker > > - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alan Lankin Subject: Re: zorn-list problem fixed, I hope Date: 22 Jun 2001 00:00:15 +0200 (CEST) For a while I thought we were stuck in some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. Philip Glass composition. Philip Glass composition. position. position. compost it. compost. compost. post. post. sit. sit. sit. ion. ion. ...... ...... ...... ...... Alan Lankin lankina@att.net np: (not playing) Glass - "Col-on-o-scop-y" ----- Original Message ----- Sent: June 21, 2001 11:51 AM > Hey Folks, > There was an email loop happening yesterday on xmission.com > on the zorn-list. Duh. ;) > It ended up overloading the server machine that runs xmissions > mailing lists, causing them to have to reboot the hung machine. > (the zorn-list is SO powerful :) > > [....] > > crossing fingers, > mike rizzi > zorn-list-whip-cracker > > - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alan Lankin Subject: Re: zorn-list problem fixed, I hope Date: 22 Jun 2001 00:00:15 +0200 (CEST) For a while I thought we were stuck in some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. Philip Glass composition. Philip Glass composition. position. position. compost it. compost. compost. post. post. sit. sit. sit. ion. ion. ...... ...... ...... ...... Alan Lankin lankina@att.net np: (not playing) Glass - "Col-on-o-scop-y" ----- Original Message ----- Sent: June 21, 2001 11:51 AM > Hey Folks, > There was an email loop happening yesterday on xmission.com > on the zorn-list. Duh. ;) > It ended up overloading the server machine that runs xmissions > mailing lists, causing them to have to reboot the hung machine. > (the zorn-list is SO powerful :) > > [....] > > crossing fingers, > mike rizzi > zorn-list-whip-cracker > > - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alan Lankin Subject: Re: zorn-list problem fixed, I hope Date: 22 Jun 2001 00:00:15 +0200 (CEST) For a while I thought we were stuck in some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. Philip Glass composition. Philip Glass composition. position. position. compost it. compost. compost. post. post. sit. sit. sit. ion. ion. ..... ..... ..... ..... Alan Lankin lankina@att.net np: (not playing) Glass - "Col-on-o-scop-y" ----- Original Message ----- Sent: June 21, 2001 11:51 AM > Hey Folks, > There was an email loop happening yesterday on xmission.com > on the zorn-list. Duh. ;) > It ended up overloading the server machine that runs xmissions > mailing lists, causing them to have to reboot the hung machine. > (the zorn-list is SO powerful :) > > [....] > > crossing fingers, > mike rizzi > zorn-list-whip-cracker > > - - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alan Lankin Subject: Re: what is ACTION FIGURE PARTY Date: 22 Jun 2001 00:02:16 +0200 (CEST) According to the ad for the Philly Avenue of the Arts Tower Records in-store "Action Figure Party" party tomorrow afternoon, the group "Action Figure Party" is "superheroes of alternative rock jam out with funky, jazz, groves [sic]." and "as heard on WXPN." I'm afraid I won't be able to check out the groves personally... Alan Lankin lankina@att.net http://jazzmatazz.home.att.net ----- Original Message ----- Cc: Sent: June 21, 2001 4:07 PM > > Does anybody have comments on the following record: > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > *** - ACTION FIGURE PARTY > > Greg Kurstin; Flea; Yuval Gabay; Sean Lennon; Miho Hatori; etc. > > 2001 - Blue Thumb Records (USA), 314 543 417-2 (CD) > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > BTW, what is ACTION FIGURE PARTY? > > Patrice (TV clueless). > > - > - - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alan Lankin Subject: Re: what is ACTION FIGURE PARTY Date: 22 Jun 2001 00:02:16 +0200 (CEST) According to the ad for the Philly Avenue of the Arts Tower Records in-store "Action Figure Party" party tomorrow afternoon, the group "Action Figure Party" is "superheroes of alternative rock jam out with funky, jazz, groves [sic]." and "as heard on WXPN." I'm afraid I won't be able to check out the groves personally... Alan Lankin lankina@att.net http://jazzmatazz.home.att.net ----- Original Message ----- Cc: Sent: June 21, 2001 4:07 PM > > Does anybody have comments on the following record: > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > *** - ACTION FIGURE PARTY > > Greg Kurstin; Flea; Yuval Gabay; Sean Lennon; Miho Hatori; etc. > > 2001 - Blue Thumb Records (USA), 314 543 417-2 (CD) > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > BTW, what is ACTION FIGURE PARTY? > > Patrice (TV clueless). > > - > - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alan Lankin Subject: Re: zorn-list problem fixed, I hope Date: 22 Jun 2001 00:00:15 +0200 (CEST) For a while I thought we were stuck in some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. Philip Glass composition. Philip Glass composition. position. position. compost it. compost. compost. post. post. sit. sit. sit. ion. ion. ...... ...... ...... ...... Alan Lankin lankina@att.net np: (not playing) Glass - "Col-on-o-scop-y" ----- Original Message ----- Sent: June 21, 2001 11:51 AM > Hey Folks, > There was an email loop happening yesterday on xmission.com > on the zorn-list. Duh. ;) > It ended up overloading the server machine that runs xmissions > mailing lists, causing them to have to reboot the hung machine. > (the zorn-list is SO powerful :) > > [....] > > crossing fingers, > mike rizzi > zorn-list-whip-cracker > > - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alan Lankin Subject: Re: zorn-list problem fixed, I hope Date: 22 Jun 2001 00:00:15 +0200 (CEST) For a while I thought we were stuck in some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. Philip Glass composition. Philip Glass composition. position. position. compost it. compost. compost. post. post. sit. sit. sit. ion. ion. ...... ...... ...... ...... Alan Lankin lankina@att.net np: (not playing) Glass - "Col-on-o-scop-y" ----- Original Message ----- Sent: June 21, 2001 11:51 AM > Hey Folks, > There was an email loop happening yesterday on xmission.com > on the zorn-list. Duh. ;) > It ended up overloading the server machine that runs xmissions > mailing lists, causing them to have to reboot the hung machine. > (the zorn-list is SO powerful :) > > [....] > > crossing fingers, > mike rizzi > zorn-list-whip-cracker > > - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alan Lankin Subject: Re: what is ACTION FIGURE PARTY Date: 22 Jun 2001 00:02:16 +0200 (CEST) According to the ad for the Philly Avenue of the Arts Tower Records in-store "Action Figure Party" party tomorrow afternoon, the group "Action Figure Party" is "superheroes of alternative rock jam out with funky, jazz, groves [sic]." and "as heard on WXPN." I'm afraid I won't be able to check out the groves personally... Alan Lankin lankina@att.net http://jazzmatazz.home.att.net ----- Original Message ----- Cc: Sent: June 21, 2001 4:07 PM > > Does anybody have comments on the following record: > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > *** - ACTION FIGURE PARTY > > Greg Kurstin; Flea; Yuval Gabay; Sean Lennon; Miho Hatori; etc. > > 2001 - Blue Thumb Records (USA), 314 543 417-2 (CD) > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > BTW, what is ACTION FIGURE PARTY? > > Patrice (TV clueless). > > - > - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alan Lankin Subject: Re: what is ACTION FIGURE PARTY Date: 22 Jun 2001 00:02:16 +0200 (CEST) According to the ad for the Philly Avenue of the Arts Tower Records in-store "Action Figure Party" party tomorrow afternoon, the group "Action Figure Party" is "superheroes of alternative rock jam out with funky, jazz, groves [sic]." and "as heard on WXPN." I'm afraid I won't be able to check out the groves personally... Alan Lankin lankina@att.net http://jazzmatazz.home.att.net ----- Original Message ----- Cc: Sent: June 21, 2001 4:07 PM > > Does anybody have comments on the following record: > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > *** - ACTION FIGURE PARTY > > Greg Kurstin; Flea; Yuval Gabay; Sean Lennon; Miho Hatori; etc. > > 2001 - Blue Thumb Records (USA), 314 543 417-2 (CD) > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > BTW, what is ACTION FIGURE PARTY? > > Patrice (TV clueless). > > - > - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s~Z Subject: Re: Johnny Stecchino Date: 21 Jun 2001 04:44:43 +0200 (CEST) NR- _The Tin Drum_ - Gunter Grass Tied with _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Moby Dick_, and _The Recognitions_ at the top of my list of all time favorite novels. - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alan Lankin Subject: Re: what is ACTION FIGURE PARTY Date: 22 Jun 2001 00:02:16 +0200 (CEST) According to the ad for the Philly Avenue of the Arts Tower Records in-store "Action Figure Party" party tomorrow afternoon, the group "Action Figure Party" is "superheroes of alternative rock jam out with funky, jazz, groves [sic]." and "as heard on WXPN." I'm afraid I won't be able to check out the groves personally... Alan Lankin lankina@att.net http://jazzmatazz.home.att.net ----- Original Message ----- Cc: Sent: June 21, 2001 4:07 PM > > Does anybody have comments on the following record: > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > *** - ACTION FIGURE PARTY > > Greg Kurstin; Flea; Yuval Gabay; Sean Lennon; Miho Hatori; etc. > > 2001 - Blue Thumb Records (USA), 314 543 417-2 (CD) > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > BTW, what is ACTION FIGURE PARTY? > > Patrice (TV clueless). > > - > - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alan Lankin Subject: Re: zorn-list problem fixed, I hope Date: 22 Jun 2001 00:00:15 +0200 (CEST) For a while I thought we were stuck in some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. Philip Glass composition. Philip Glass composition. position. position. compost it. compost. compost. post. post. sit. sit. sit. ion. ion. ...... ...... ...... ...... Alan Lankin lankina@att.net np: (not playing) Glass - "Col-on-o-scop-y" ----- Original Message ----- Sent: June 21, 2001 11:51 AM > Hey Folks, > There was an email loop happening yesterday on xmission.com > on the zorn-list. Duh. ;) > It ended up overloading the server machine that runs xmissions > mailing lists, causing them to have to reboot the hung machine. > (the zorn-list is SO powerful :) > > [....] > > crossing fingers, > mike rizzi > zorn-list-whip-cracker > > - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alan Lankin Subject: Re: what is ACTION FIGURE PARTY Date: 22 Jun 2001 00:02:16 +0200 (CEST) According to the ad for the Philly Avenue of the Arts Tower Records in-store "Action Figure Party" party tomorrow afternoon, the group "Action Figure Party" is "superheroes of alternative rock jam out with funky, jazz, groves [sic]." and "as heard on WXPN." I'm afraid I won't be able to check out the groves personally... Alan Lankin lankina@att.net http://jazzmatazz.home.att.net ----- Original Message ----- Cc: Sent: June 21, 2001 4:07 PM > > Does anybody have comments on the following record: > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > *** - ACTION FIGURE PARTY > > Greg Kurstin; Flea; Yuval Gabay; Sean Lennon; Miho Hatori; etc. > > 2001 - Blue Thumb Records (USA), 314 543 417-2 (CD) > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > BTW, what is ACTION FIGURE PARTY? > > Patrice (TV clueless). > > - > - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alan Lankin Subject: Re: what is ACTION FIGURE PARTY Date: 22 Jun 2001 00:02:16 +0200 (CEST) According to the ad for the Philly Avenue of the Arts Tower Records in-store "Action Figure Party" party tomorrow afternoon, the group "Action Figure Party" is "superheroes of alternative rock jam out with funky, jazz, groves [sic]." and "as heard on WXPN." I'm afraid I won't be able to check out the groves personally... Alan Lankin lankina@att.net http://jazzmatazz.home.att.net ----- Original Message ----- Cc: Sent: June 21, 2001 4:07 PM > > Does anybody have comments on the following record: > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > *** - ACTION FIGURE PARTY > > Greg Kurstin; Flea; Yuval Gabay; Sean Lennon; Miho Hatori; etc. > > 2001 - Blue Thumb Records (USA), 314 543 417-2 (CD) > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > BTW, what is ACTION FIGURE PARTY? > > Patrice (TV clueless). > > - > - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alan Lankin Subject: Re: zorn-list problem fixed, I hope Date: 22 Jun 2001 00:00:15 +0200 (CEST) For a while I thought we were stuck in some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. Philip Glass composition. Philip Glass composition. position. position. compost it. compost. compost. post. post. sit. sit. sit. ion. ion. ..... ..... ..... ..... Alan Lankin lankina@att.net np: (not playing) Glass - "Col-on-o-scop-y" ----- Original Message ----- Sent: June 21, 2001 11:51 AM > Hey Folks, > There was an email loop happening yesterday on xmission.com > on the zorn-list. Duh. ;) > It ended up overloading the server machine that runs xmissions > mailing lists, causing them to have to reboot the hung machine. > (the zorn-list is SO powerful :) > > [....] > > crossing fingers, > mike rizzi > zorn-list-whip-cracker > > - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alan Lankin Subject: Re: zorn-list problem fixed, I hope Date: 22 Jun 2001 00:00:15 +0200 (CEST) For a while I thought we were stuck in some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. Philip Glass composition. Philip Glass composition. position. position. compost it. compost. compost. post. post. sit. sit. sit. ion. ion. ...... ...... ...... ...... Alan Lankin lankina@att.net np: (not playing) Glass - "Col-on-o-scop-y" ----- Original Message ----- Sent: June 21, 2001 11:51 AM > Hey Folks, > There was an email loop happening yesterday on xmission.com > on the zorn-list. Duh. ;) > It ended up overloading the server machine that runs xmissions > mailing lists, causing them to have to reboot the hung machine. > (the zorn-list is SO powerful :) > > [....] > > crossing fingers, > mike rizzi > zorn-list-whip-cracker > > - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alan Lankin Subject: Re: zorn-list problem fixed, I hope Date: 22 Jun 2001 00:00:15 +0200 (CEST) For a while I thought we were stuck in some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. Philip Glass composition. Philip Glass composition. position. position. compost it. compost. compost. post. post. sit. sit. sit. ion. ion. ...... ...... ...... ...... Alan Lankin lankina@att.net np: (not playing) Glass - "Col-on-o-scop-y" ----- Original Message ----- Sent: June 21, 2001 11:51 AM > Hey Folks, > There was an email loop happening yesterday on xmission.com > on the zorn-list. Duh. ;) > It ended up overloading the server machine that runs xmissions > mailing lists, causing them to have to reboot the hung machine. > (the zorn-list is SO powerful :) > > [....] > > crossing fingers, > mike rizzi > zorn-list-whip-cracker > > - - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Herb Levy Subject: Re: Later Date: 21 Jun 2001 05:50:45 +0200 (CEST) Hugo Linares wrote: >Later, and apparently really, really meant it. Bests, Herb -- Herb Levy Mappings on Antenna Internet Radio http://www.antennaradio.com/avant/mappings/ mappings@antennaradio.com Mappings P O Box 9369 Forth Wort, TX 76147 - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alan Lankin Subject: Re: what is ACTION FIGURE PARTY Date: 22 Jun 2001 00:02:16 +0200 (CEST) According to the ad for the Philly Avenue of the Arts Tower Records in-store "Action Figure Party" party tomorrow afternoon, the group "Action Figure Party" is "superheroes of alternative rock jam out with funky, jazz, groves [sic]." and "as heard on WXPN." I'm afraid I won't be able to check out the groves personally... Alan Lankin lankina@att.net http://jazzmatazz.home.att.net ----- Original Message ----- Cc: Sent: June 21, 2001 4:07 PM > > Does anybody have comments on the following record: > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > *** - ACTION FIGURE PARTY > > Greg Kurstin; Flea; Yuval Gabay; Sean Lennon; Miho Hatori; etc. > > 2001 - Blue Thumb Records (USA), 314 543 417-2 (CD) > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > BTW, what is ACTION FIGURE PARTY? > > Patrice (TV clueless). > > - > - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alan Lankin Subject: Re: zorn-list problem fixed, I hope Date: 22 Jun 2001 00:00:15 +0200 (CEST) For a while I thought we were stuck in some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. Philip Glass composition. Philip Glass composition. position. position. compost it. compost. compost. post. post. sit. sit. sit. ion. ion. ...... ...... ...... ...... Alan Lankin lankina@att.net np: (not playing) Glass - "Col-on-o-scop-y" ----- Original Message ----- Sent: June 21, 2001 11:51 AM > Hey Folks, > There was an email loop happening yesterday on xmission.com > on the zorn-list. Duh. ;) > It ended up overloading the server machine that runs xmissions > mailing lists, causing them to have to reboot the hung machine. > (the zorn-list is SO powerful :) > > [....] > > crossing fingers, > mike rizzi > zorn-list-whip-cracker > > - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alan Lankin Subject: Re: zorn-list problem fixed, I hope Date: 22 Jun 2001 00:00:15 +0200 (CEST) For a while I thought we were stuck in some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. Philip Glass composition. Philip Glass composition. position. position. compost it. compost. compost. post. post. sit. sit. sit. ion. ion. ...... ...... ...... ...... Alan Lankin lankina@att.net np: (not playing) Glass - "Col-on-o-scop-y" ----- Original Message ----- Sent: June 21, 2001 11:51 AM > Hey Folks, > There was an email loop happening yesterday on xmission.com > on the zorn-list. Duh. ;) > It ended up overloading the server machine that runs xmissions > mailing lists, causing them to have to reboot the hung machine. > (the zorn-list is SO powerful :) > > [....] > > crossing fingers, > mike rizzi > zorn-list-whip-cracker > > - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alan Lankin Subject: Re: what is ACTION FIGURE PARTY Date: 22 Jun 2001 00:02:16 +0200 (CEST) According to the ad for the Philly Avenue of the Arts Tower Records in-store "Action Figure Party" party tomorrow afternoon, the group "Action Figure Party" is "superheroes of alternative rock jam out with funky, jazz, groves [sic]." and "as heard on WXPN." I'm afraid I won't be able to check out the groves personally... Alan Lankin lankina@att.net http://jazzmatazz.home.att.net ----- Original Message ----- Cc: Sent: June 21, 2001 4:07 PM > > Does anybody have comments on the following record: > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > *** - ACTION FIGURE PARTY > > Greg Kurstin; Flea; Yuval Gabay; Sean Lennon; Miho Hatori; etc. > > 2001 - Blue Thumb Records (USA), 314 543 417-2 (CD) > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > BTW, what is ACTION FIGURE PARTY? > > Patrice (TV clueless). > > - > - - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Herb Levy Subject: Re: Later Date: 21 Jun 2001 05:50:45 +0200 (CEST) Hugo Linares wrote: >Later, and apparently really, really meant it. Bests, Herb -- Herb Levy Mappings on Antenna Internet Radio http://www.antennaradio.com/avant/mappings/ mappings@antennaradio.com Mappings P O Box 9369 Forth Wort, TX 76147 - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alan Lankin Subject: Re: what is ACTION FIGURE PARTY Date: 22 Jun 2001 00:02:16 +0200 (CEST) According to the ad for the Philly Avenue of the Arts Tower Records in-store "Action Figure Party" party tomorrow afternoon, the group "Action Figure Party" is "superheroes of alternative rock jam out with funky, jazz, groves [sic]." and "as heard on WXPN." I'm afraid I won't be able to check out the groves personally... Alan Lankin lankina@att.net http://jazzmatazz.home.att.net ----- Original Message ----- Cc: Sent: June 21, 2001 4:07 PM > > Does anybody have comments on the following record: > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > *** - ACTION FIGURE PARTY > > Greg Kurstin; Flea; Yuval Gabay; Sean Lennon; Miho Hatori; etc. > > 2001 - Blue Thumb Records (USA), 314 543 417-2 (CD) > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > BTW, what is ACTION FIGURE PARTY? > > Patrice (TV clueless). > > - > - - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alan Lankin Subject: Re: what is ACTION FIGURE PARTY Date: 22 Jun 2001 00:02:16 +0200 (CEST) According to the ad for the Philly Avenue of the Arts Tower Records in-store "Action Figure Party" party tomorrow afternoon, the group "Action Figure Party" is "superheroes of alternative rock jam out with funky, jazz, groves [sic]." and "as heard on WXPN." I'm afraid I won't be able to check out the groves personally... Alan Lankin lankina@att.net http://jazzmatazz.home.att.net ----- Original Message ----- Cc: Sent: June 21, 2001 4:07 PM > > Does anybody have comments on the following record: > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > *** - ACTION FIGURE PARTY > > Greg Kurstin; Flea; Yuval Gabay; Sean Lennon; Miho Hatori; etc. > > 2001 - Blue Thumb Records (USA), 314 543 417-2 (CD) > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > BTW, what is ACTION FIGURE PARTY? > > Patrice (TV clueless). > > - > - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Herb Levy Subject: Re: Later Date: 21 Jun 2001 05:50:45 +0200 (CEST) Hugo Linares wrote: >Later, and apparently really, really meant it. Bests, Herb -- Herb Levy Mappings on Antenna Internet Radio http://www.antennaradio.com/avant/mappings/ mappings@antennaradio.com Mappings P O Box 9369 Forth Wort, TX 76147 - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reaboi@aol.com Subject: Re: what is ACTION FIGURE PARTY Date: 21 Jun 2001 19:36:16 EDT --part1_be.1646a0a8.2863def0_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "Action Figure Party" is a project by LA keyboardist Greg Kurstin (who's doen both jazz and rock stuff). I haven't heard the record, but people tell me it has a Headhunters/jam-like vibe. I don't know what the "out/avant-meter" reading is... Pamelia Kurstin told me she's arranged some tracks on it, and maybe plays some theramin... btw, she'll be in the opening act for Air on this tour, so you should check it out if you dig her stuff. Cheers, Dave --part1_be.1646a0a8.2863def0_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "Action Figure Party" is a project by LA keyboardist Greg Kurstin (who's doen
both jazz and rock stuff). I haven't heard the record, but people tell me it
has a Headhunters/jam-like vibe. I don't know what the "out/avant-meter"
reading is...  Pamelia Kurstin told me she's arranged some tracks on it, and
maybe plays some theramin... btw, she'll be in the opening act for Air on
this tour, so you should check it out if you dig her stuff.

Cheers,
Dave
--part1_be.1646a0a8.2863def0_boundary-- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alan Lankin Subject: Re: zorn-list problem fixed, I hope Date: 22 Jun 2001 00:00:15 +0200 (CEST) For a while I thought we were stuck in some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. Philip Glass composition. Philip Glass composition. position. position. compost it. compost. compost. post. post. sit. sit. sit. ion. ion. ....... ....... ....... ....... Alan Lankin lankina@att.net np: (not playing) Glass - "Col-on-o-scop-y" ----- Original Message ----- Sent: June 21, 2001 11:51 AM > Hey Folks, > There was an email loop happening yesterday on xmission.com > on the zorn-list. Duh. ;) > It ended up overloading the server machine that runs xmissions > mailing lists, causing them to have to reboot the hung machine. > (the zorn-list is SO powerful :) > > [....] > > crossing fingers, > mike rizzi > zorn-list-whip-cracker > > - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alan Lankin Subject: Re: zorn-list problem fixed, I hope Date: 22 Jun 2001 00:00:15 +0200 (CEST) For a while I thought we were stuck in some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. Philip Glass composition. Philip Glass composition. position. position. compost it. compost. compost. post. post. sit. sit. sit. ion. ion. ....... ....... ....... ....... Alan Lankin lankina@att.net np: (not playing) Glass - "Col-on-o-scop-y" ----- Original Message ----- Sent: June 21, 2001 11:51 AM > Hey Folks, > There was an email loop happening yesterday on xmission.com > on the zorn-list. Duh. ;) > It ended up overloading the server machine that runs xmissions > mailing lists, causing them to have to reboot the hung machine. > (the zorn-list is SO powerful :) > > [....] > > crossing fingers, > mike rizzi > zorn-list-whip-cracker > > - - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alan Lankin Subject: Re: zorn-list problem fixed, I hope Date: 22 Jun 2001 00:00:15 +0200 (CEST) For a while I thought we were stuck in some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. Philip Glass composition. Philip Glass composition. position. position. compost it. compost. compost. post. post. sit. sit. sit. ion. ion. ....... ....... ....... ....... Alan Lankin lankina@att.net np: (not playing) Glass - "Col-on-o-scop-y" ----- Original Message ----- Sent: June 21, 2001 11:51 AM > Hey Folks, > There was an email loop happening yesterday on xmission.com > on the zorn-list. Duh. ;) > It ended up overloading the server machine that runs xmissions > mailing lists, causing them to have to reboot the hung machine. > (the zorn-list is SO powerful :) > > [....] > > crossing fingers, > mike rizzi > zorn-list-whip-cracker > > - - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Herb Levy Subject: Re: Later Date: 21 Jun 2001 05:50:45 +0200 (CEST) Hugo Linares wrote: >Later, and apparently really, really meant it. Bests, Herb -- Herb Levy Mappings on Antenna Internet Radio http://www.antennaradio.com/avant/mappings/ mappings@antennaradio.com Mappings P O Box 9369 Forth Wort, TX 76147 - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alan Lankin Subject: Re: what is ACTION FIGURE PARTY Date: 22 Jun 2001 00:02:16 +0200 (CEST) According to the ad for the Philly Avenue of the Arts Tower Records in-store "Action Figure Party" party tomorrow afternoon, the group "Action Figure Party" is "superheroes of alternative rock jam out with funky, jazz, groves [sic]." and "as heard on WXPN." I'm afraid I won't be able to check out the groves personally... Alan Lankin lankina@att.net http://jazzmatazz.home.att.net ----- Original Message ----- Cc: Sent: June 21, 2001 4:07 PM > > Does anybody have comments on the following record: > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > *** - ACTION FIGURE PARTY > > Greg Kurstin; Flea; Yuval Gabay; Sean Lennon; Miho Hatori; etc. > > 2001 - Blue Thumb Records (USA), 314 543 417-2 (CD) > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > BTW, what is ACTION FIGURE PARTY? > > Patrice (TV clueless). > > - > - - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alan Lankin Subject: Re: zorn-list problem fixed, I hope Date: 22 Jun 2001 00:00:15 +0200 (CEST) For a while I thought we were stuck in some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. some kind of virtual Philip Glass composition. Philip Glass composition. Philip Glass composition. position. position. compost it. compost. compost. post. post. sit. sit. sit. ion. ion. ....... ....... ....... ....... Alan Lankin lankina@att.net np: (not playing) Glass - "Col-on-o-scop-y" ----- Original Message ----- Sent: June 21, 2001 11:51 AM > Hey Folks, > There was an email loop happening yesterday on xmission.com > on the zorn-list. Duh. ;) > It ended up overloading the server machine that runs xmissions > mailing lists, causing them to have to reboot the hung machine. > (the zorn-list is SO powerful :) > > [....] > > crossing fingers, > mike rizzi > zorn-list-whip-cracker > > - - - - -