From: "Julian" Subject: Ribot's guitar Date: 01 Sep 2001 15:58:05 +1000 Just looking at a picture which I believe was taken at "The Gift" launch. Ribot is playing a bright (white or silver) guitar with a retro/surf kind of shape, the headstock is a similar shape to the body. It's also got a huge tremolo bar. Anyone know what kind of guitar this is? I think I can make out an 'S' as the first letter on the headstock... Thanks, Julian. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Acousticlv@aol.com Subject: new glenn gould Radio Doc release Date: 01 Sep 2001 03:09:26 EDT In a message dated 8/30/01 1:28:40 PM, owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com writes: << From: James Hale Here in Canada, Gould is almost as well known for his (non-musical) work ... number of major documentaries for CBC Radio, including a stunning sound-montage called 'The Idea Of North' that was way ahead of its time (especially given that it's all manually edited using razor blade and >> HOWDY fellow ZORN-LISTERS, In the Naxos America new release list in today's mail was the CBC disc (Naxos distribs CBC in USA) of 2 Gould radio Docs from the early 70s: one of Pau Casals, the other on Stokowski, on a 2cd set, PSCD-2025-2. I own "The Idea Of North,' part of a 3cd set called 'The Solitude Trilogy," and think a great many of you would enjoy it. Havent heard the new releases yet, of course. Yrs Steve Koenig n.,p.: (just got a machine for) DVD: Die Walkure: Levine, Met Op n.r.: naxos new release catalog- w/ a new antheil ballet mechanique - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeton Ademaj" Subject: Age, Sabbath, Zorn, Coltrane Date: 01 Sep 2001 07:22:11 -0400 Hi All, Age: I believe Tonic and the Knit pseudo-advertise themselves as "18 to enter, 21 to drink" because of NYC's evil tude to clubs, but I've never seen either place card someone for mere entrance. As teenagers, a friend and I would take his pre-teen brother to the knit all the time. I still remember Last Exit at the knit in '90, me and my friend stuck back about 4 people deep (which mattered cuz there was a 6'5" GORGEOUS skinhead blocking our view, and while lysergically enjoying the auditory aspect of one of life's greatest possible shows, visually me and Brian had to watch skinhead beat out RSJ's rhythms against the back of his girlfriends' unhappy neck!) while Scotty (his then 12 yo brother, looking 9ish) simply wormed up front and I watched both Sonny Sharrock and Pete Brotzmann play musical lines directly to him. Also, I've recently seen kids running around at shows at both Tonic and the Knit. However, in it's difficulties the knit is frequently finding or resurrecting old or illogical 'rules' to 'enforce' lately, and with sporadic consistency. Give 'em a call, and whatever they say be prepared for it or it's opposite! Sabbath: More on the Castle tip... Black Sabbath I is a weird issue on the Castle label. on the plus side, it's remastered from the master tapes (u hear MUCH new detail n structure) AND has Sab's 1st single "Evil Woman" on it (which i didn't know existed till i got this edition) but on the minus side it appears the the master tape had degenerated a bit. "Wicked World" is the big issue, it's hi-hat line sounds muffled even as the rest of the track is more fleshed out. Worse, "WW" is now the LAST song on the album (after 'warning') and in it's place is "evil woman" which, while interesting, is actually sucky compared to the rest of their classic oevre (better then 'technical ecstasy' by light years, tho) "evil woman' was also mastered differently n sounds outta place. I still keep my old cheap American release of "Black Sabbath" for these reasons. "Paranoid" and "Master of Reality" experience the best effect on the new label (u can hear and discern EVERY WORD in 'Planet Caravan' for example). They're really too heavy to be believed. Zorn: Steve (Koenig) (Helllllllooooooooooooo, btw:) ), i found some other concert at Columbia on Nov. 29th. I found no listing for Zorn at all. Can u give more details? Coltrane: Steve (Smith): thanks fer the Coltrane info, I'm surprised no one's released it till now! I expect it'll be a very emotional recording to hear for many people. peace fer now, all :) Are shows at Tonic and the Knitting Factory all ages or do you have to be 21 to enter. A young friend of mine is visiting New York and is looking for good concerts. Thanks for the help. Zach _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Alan Lankin" Subject: Re: JMT Date: 01 Sep 2001 10:25:10 -0400 Has W&W listed a schedule? Alan Lankin lankina@att.net http://jazzmatazz.home.att.net ----- Original Message ----- Sent: August 30, 2001 3:59 AM > > Winter & Winter just announced that they are reissuing the whole JMT catalog > in chronological order starting this September with 3 CDs every month... > > Andreas > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "thomas chatterton" Subject: RE: John Coltrane - The Olatunji Concert Date: 01 Sep 2001 14:52:42 +0000 >From: "Steve Smith" > >About the new Impulse! release 'Spiritual,' ICE says nada -- What about the important stuff that was touted a few years back when Impulse started reissuing the Trane stuff, like the alternate Love Supreme with Archie Shepp? Alice has a cache of unreleased tapes... np: James Brown Live At The Apollo Volume II Deluxe Edition _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Samerivertwice@aol.com Subject: Re: JMT Date: 01 Sep 2001 10:59:51 EDT In a message dated 9/1/01 10:39:45 AM Eastern Daylight Time, lankina@att.net writes: > Has W&W listed a schedule? > They don't have a website, but if you email them your snail mail address they'll send you a hard copy of their release schedule. WinterProduction@compuserve.com Tom - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stinkipipi@aol.com Subject: Re: RE: John Coltrane - The Olatunji Concert Date: 01 Sep 2001 11:04:33 EDT >What about the important stuff that was touted a few years back when Impulse >started reissuing the Trane stuff, like the alternate Love Supreme with >Archie Shepp? Alice has a cache of unreleased tapes... if i remember correctly from the coltrane list, ravi seems to be mostly in charge of whatever archives the coltrane family has, and the because of his own careere, he doesn't have a ton of time to devote to it. dave bill laswell/mick harris/eraldo bernocchi/lori carson discographies : http://www.geocities.com/slntwtchr coming soon - mickharris.net and eraldobernocchi.net.... - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Maurice Rickard Subject: Re: Ribot's guitar Date: 01 Sep 2001 11:08:05 -0400 Anyone have the URL of this image? Thanks! Maurice At 3:58 PM +1000 9/1/01, Julian wrote: >Just looking at a picture which I believe was taken at "The Gift" launch. >Ribot is playing a bright (white or silver) guitar with a retro/surf kind of >shape, the headstock is a similar shape to the body. It's also got a huge >tremolo bar. Anyone know what kind of guitar this is? -- Maurice Rickard http://mauricerickard.com/ - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Taylor McLaren Subject: re: SC3 Date: 01 Sep 2001 11:09:18 -0400 MEEP! smokey@laplaza.org wrote: >Just have to put another plug in for those Secret Chiefs previews - Actually, this is pretty cool... it's nice to hear that the material they played on their last tour has finally found its way to disc. (All of five samples into the list, I've already recognized two of my favourite passages from the half-hour jam that they played with members of Estradasphere at their show in Toronto last May. Okay, make that three sections now that I've finished typing that sentence.) In other parts, I was just putting away a big stack of records and ran across the _Ghost Dog_ soundtrack that I had been asking about when the list went blooey last time, and I remembered that I had wanted to ask somebody: what's on the Japanese CD that didn't make it to the (actually pretty disappointing... I'm hovering on the brink of adding the Wu Tang Clan to my list of critics' lies) North American double-vinyl effort? Are the actual cues from the movie available, or was there some other batch of bonus material altogether? Finally, I wanted to thank the list as a whole for being such a great ongoing source of random musical chatter. I've finally started to check out the Residents and other Ralph names (on the strength of previous discussions of same) over the last few weeks, and the results have dramatically brightened an otherwise dismal stretch at the office. Merci. -me (Make that five passages from the SC3 show... I guess I'll be ordering a copy of this new album now.) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dennis Summers Subject: Keep the River on Your Right Date: 01 Sep 2001 11:55:51 -0400 This may have already been mentioned, I'm ashamed to say I'm a little behind in my reading. I just saw the documentary "Keep the River on Your Right" about the gay artist/anthropologist/cannibal. It was a fine movie, but for all you people who want to know of all things Zorn related, John Zorn's name appears in the "thank-you" credits at the end of the movie, and if I caught the fast moving credits correctly music from Steve Bernstein on Tzadik was used in the film. yours in zornocity --ds Dennis Summers Quantum Dance Works members.home.net/dennisqdw/ - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nathan Earixson Subject: Re: Ribot's guitar Date: 01 Sep 2001 08:58:47 -0700 (PDT) Possibly a Schecter Hellcat? http://www.schecterguitars.com/products/g4_main.htm -nme! --- Julian wrote: > Just looking at a picture which I believe was taken at "The Gift" launch. > Ribot is playing a bright (white or silver) guitar with a retro/surf kind of > shape, the headstock is a similar shape to the body. It's also got a huge > tremolo bar. Anyone know what kind of guitar this is? I think I can make out > an 'S' as the first letter on the headstock... > > Thanks, > Julian. > > > - > ===== *********************************************** "but I remember, when we were young." *********************************************** __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: patRice Subject: King Tubby / Dub (NO ZORN CONTENT - SORRY!) Date: 01 Sep 2001 18:32:49 +0200 Hey boys & girls... My memory is getting worse and I'm not sure if this has already been talked about here... but anyways: What CDs / records would you recommend as a starting point for King Tubby's work? And/or are there any other dub producers/artists you feel I should also lend an ear to? Thanks for your help! patRice np: NWA, 100 Miles And Runnin' nr: Nick Hornby, How To Be Good - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Smith" Subject: RE: Age, Sabbath, Zorn, Coltrane Date: 01 Sep 2001 12:38:59 -0400 Jeton: Thanks for the detailed descriptions of the Castle Sabbath issues. Got to admit, I felt mighty conflicted yesterday when I got to Tower Records and the Warner versions of all of the Sabbath classics were on sale for a measly $7.99 apiece... but I somehow refrained. As for the Zorn concert on November 29, I'll step in for Steve K. and mention that if it was the Miller website you consulted, they've still got last year's schedule posted. The Zorn concert is indeed happening on November 29th this season. Steve Smith ssmith36@sprynet.com NP - Hedwig and the Angry Inch, "The Origin of Love," OST (Hybrid) - possibly the best movie I've seen this summer... - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Smith" Subject: RE: John Coltrane - The Olatunji Concert Date: 01 Sep 2001 12:44:50 -0400 There seems to be some debate as to whether the 'Love Supreme' outtakes with Shepp and Art Davis actually exist, or were preserved. The album's liner notes verify that said recording took place, however, and Shepp told me in an interview that a Japanese collector had played him rough cassette dubs of them. Steve Smith ssmith36@sprynet.com NP - Tommy Gnosis, "Wicked Little Town," 'Hedwig and the Angry Inch' OST (Hybrid) -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-zorn-list@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of thomas chatterton What about the important stuff that was touted a few years back when Impulse started reissuing the Trane stuff, like the alternate Love Supreme with Archie Shepp? Alice has a cache of unreleased tapes... - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Smith" Subject: RE: SC3 Date: 01 Sep 2001 12:49:16 -0400 Yes, I remember your query - perhaps superstition kept me from bringing it up again (again again again again again again again again again...). I don't know what was on the US double LP you mention, but the Japanese CD issue was touted as being the one and only release of the music cues from the film. It's grown on me a bit, but it still feels rather slight. Anyone heard RZA's new Bobby Digital release on Koch? Steve Smith ssmith36@sprynet.com NP - Hedwig and the Angry Inch, "Wig in a Box," OST (Hybrid) -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-zorn-list@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Taylor McLaren In other parts, I was just putting away a big stack of records and ran across the _Ghost Dog_ soundtrack that I had been asking about when the list went blooey last time, and I remembered that I had wanted to ask somebody: what's on the Japanese CD that didn't make it to the (actually pretty disappointing... I'm hovering on the brink of adding the Wu Tang Clan to my list of critics' lies) North American double-vinyl effort? Are the actual cues from the movie available, or was there some other batch of bonus material altogether? - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "&c." Subject: RE: John Coltrane - The Olatunji Concert Date: 01 Sep 2001 12:10:10 -0500 I don't know the accuracy of this...but CDNow has the Olatunji Concert and Spiritual both slated for release on 25 September. I would also like to know about that alternate version of A Love Supreme... Zach - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dan Frank Kuehn Subject: Re: Tobias Schneebaum Date: 01 Sep 2001 11:25:52 -0600 Tobias Schneebaum, what a guy! Haven't seen the movie, but the book, Keep the River on Your Right, was great, and don't skip the sequel, Cannibal ! Dan - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ken Waxman Subject: RE: John Coltrane - The Olatunji Concert Date: 01 Sep 2001 13:23:41 -0400 (EDT) Then , of course, there are the tapes which Bob Thiele made at Coltrane's funeral, where Albert Ayler's band and Ornette Coleman's trio played. The tapes *do* exist, but whether they will ever appear commercially in our lifetime is another matter. In a Cadence interview Joe McPhee also said that the OC trio did an absolutely killer set at the club at which it was playing the night of the funeral and that Ornette definitely taped that. In an earlier interview Bobby Bradford said Coleman has reels and reels of tape with all sorts of musicians -- don't forget his jam session with Ayler -- but he (OC)doesn't take good care of them. Who knows whether any of those will ever be heard by others. Mantime the record companies spend time re-re-re-releasing the same discs over and over again. Ken Waxman --- Steve Smith wrote: > There seems to be some debate as to whether the > 'Love Supreme' outtakes with > Shepp and Art Davis actually exist, or were > preserved. The album's liner > notes verify that said recording took place, > however, and Shepp told me in > an interview that a Japanese collector had played > him rough cassette dubs of > them. > _______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Gannushkin Subject: Re[2]: Ribot's guitar Date: 01 Sep 2001 13:59:36 -0400 Hello Maurice, I guess it was from my web site - http://www.downtownmusic.net/pictures/pictures.asp?artist=Marc%20Ribot. Saturday, September 01, 2001, you wrote to me: MR> Anyone have the URL of this image? MR> Thanks! MR> Maurice MR> At 3:58 PM +1000 9/1/01, Julian wrote: >>Just looking at a picture which I believe was taken at "The Gift" launch. >>Ribot is playing a bright (white or silver) guitar with a retro/surf kind of >>shape, the headstock is a similar shape to the body. It's also got a huge >>tremolo bar. Anyone know what kind of guitar this is? NP: Zony Mash "brand spankin' new" (CD) -- Best regards, Peter Gannushkin e-mail: shkin@shkin.com URL: http://www.downtownmusic.net/ - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: SC3 Date: 01 Sep 2001 12:19:01 -0500 On Sat, Sep 01, 2001 at 11:09:18AM -0400, Taylor McLaren wrote: > In other parts, I was just putting away a big stack of records and ran > across the _Ghost Dog_ soundtrack that I had been asking about when the > list went blooey last time, and I remembered that I had wanted to ask > somebody: what's on the Japanese CD that didn't make it to the (actually > pretty disappointing... I'm hovering on the brink of adding the Wu Tang > Clan to my list of critics' lies) North American double-vinyl effort? Not having heard anything else by Wu-Tang that I can recall (or having seen the movie -- I have it on video but haven't gotten around to it), I really liked this album. Somewhat of a hodgepodge of things, but I enjoyed the tracks and how they were put together. It stayed in my car CD player for a couple of weeks. -- |> ~The only thing that is not art is inattention~ --- Marcel Duchamp <| | jzitt@metatronpress.com http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt | | Latest CD: Jerusaklyn http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt | | Comma: Voices of New Music Silence: the John Cage Discussion List | - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Maurice Rickard Subject: Re[2]: Ribot's guitar Date: 01 Sep 2001 14:15:41 -0400 Oh, easy. It's a Supro. Which model I'm not sure (possibly a Belmot), but it's definitely a Supro. They're long gone, but you can find them used, usually at (what I consider) unreasonable prices. Sometimes they go for surprisingly little, though. HTH, Maurice At 1:59 PM -0400 9/1/01, Peter Gannushkin wrote: > >I guess it was from my web site - >http://www.downtownmusic.net/pictures/pictures.asp?artist=Marc%20Ribot. > > >MR> At 3:58 PM +1000 9/1/01, Julian wrote: >>>Just looking at a picture which I believe was taken at "The Gift" launch. >>>Ribot is playing a bright (white or silver) guitar with a retro/surf kind of >>>shape, the headstock is a similar shape to the body. It's also got a huge >>>tremolo bar. Anyone know what kind of guitar this is? > -- Maurice Rickard http://mauricerickard.com/ - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mwisckol@ocregister.com Subject: dj logic recommendations? Date: 01 Sep 2001 17:28:20 -0700 sorry if this has been asked before.... - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Knott" Subject: Re: King Tubby / Dub (NO ZORN CONTENT - SORRY!) Date: 01 Sep 2001 22:59:29 -0700 The Blood and Fire label has several good King Tuby CD's: Dub Gone Crazy Dub Gone 2 Crazy Dub Like Dirt Freedom Sounds In Dub Yabby U, King Tubby's Prophesy of Dub The Pressure Sounds label also have a King Tubby CD coming out. Both these labels are great for Dub. also check out Lee Perry tom - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JonAbbey2@aol.com Subject: Re: King Tubby / Dub (NO ZORN CONTENT - SORRY!) Date: 02 Sep 2001 02:21:43 EDT In a message dated 9/2/01 1:53:47 AM, tknott@ix.netcom.com writes: << The Blood and Fire label has several good King Tuby CD's: Dub Gone Crazy Dub Gone 2 Crazy Dub Like Dirt Freedom Sounds In Dub Yabby U, King Tubby's Prophesy of Dub >> Freedom Sounds In Dub is my favorite of these, and my Lee "Scratch" Perry pick is another Blood and Fire release, Congos-Heart Of the Congos. also, the compilation just out on Blood and Fire, Darker Than Blue, all "versions" of American soul songs, is their best release in a while. lastly, for a taste of more recent dub, Mad Professor's song by song deconstruction of Massive Attack's Protection, No Protection, is pretty essential. Jon www.erstwhilerecords.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Taylor McLaren Subject: re: Bobby Digital Date: 02 Sep 2001 05:41:24 -0400 MEEP! Steve Smith wrote: >Anyone heard RZA's new Bobby Digital release on Koch? Sadly, it fosters a lot of the same ambivalence that I have towards other Wu-Tang outings. On the one hand, it's really nice to see that he's past the point of needing to sample kung-fu movies just because it's his trademark or gimmick; there's even one track that goes so far as to call him out on "all that fucking Brooklyn shit, Shaolin shit... nigger, grow the fuck up", etc., and doesn't resort to any of the glock-go-pop nonsense in trying to describe his life in three minutes or less. On the other, though, I really doubt that I could listen to most of the disc while anybody that I know (particularly any woman I know) is within earshot... there's enough bitch this, bitch that, bitch-get-on-the-floor, and gun-waving going on (mostly courtesy of the large cast of MCs -- described to pretty hilarious effect on rec.music.hip-hop as "a whole lot of C-list Wu-Fam" -- who just happened to be in the studio, which is what normally drives me away from most Wu-Tang efforts) that I just can't relate to much of what is being said. I know that some people find this sort of thing (especially when it comes from ODB) to be cartoonishly funny in much the same way that you can laugh off or ignore the lyrics barked out by metal vocalists, but there's something about hearing it from a group that connects with so many people around the world that I can't help but be scared and saddened by the whole thing... I guess it's a little like how David Tibet confessed to being sent scurrying off to the bathroom to cry by most Krautrock, because I can't imagine what life must be like for somebody to identify with so much of what is being said, and it feels cheap and insincere for me to be glomming on that by spending twenty bucks at the local mall just before buying a birthday card for my grandmother and dropping eighty bucks on magazines at a nearby chain bookstore afterwards. Still, there are some great textural moments tucked away underneath the lifestyle bits, and many occasions on which I just had to back the disc up to appreciate a sudden change-up in the beat or glitchy edit that just sounded so *right*. That's probably why I was looking forward to hearing the instrumental material from "Ghost Dog" so much... as a producer, there is some really intensely great stuff pouring out of the RZA's head, and not all of it on _Digital Bullet_ is laid down solely to provide a base for some random guy to just spurt his ego all over it. Like most of the guy's efforts, though, I think I'd be a more comfortable listener sticking to the instrumental versions. -me - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Efr=E9n_del_Valle?= Subject: New Patton project? Date: 02 Sep 2001 13:35:06 +0200 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C133B4.13E83740 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi zorn-listers, I've heard about a new Mike Patton project with Buckethead and a DJ. = Anyone knows if that has already been recorded or there is any release = date? 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Produced by Kevin Martin (God, Ice, Techno Animal). Feat. Alex Buess (16-17), Werner L=FCdi, and Hans Koch. Deleted.] OFFERS -- Carl Stone - "Em:t 1196" UK CD (T:me/Em:t) 1996 $22 -- K.K. Null - "Sonicfuck U.S.A." JAP CD (Nux: nux-d1) 1991 [68 minutes of sublime guitar and voice workouts. Recorded live in San Francisco, San Jose, and Long Beach, CA between September 18th and 22nd, 1990. Deleted.] $25 -- Muslimgauze - "Zul'm" US CD (Extreme: xcd012) 1992 [Classic early material on Extreme. Feat. Zorawar Singh (Arabic perc. & vox), Said Nasser (Indian perc. & vox) & Mark Lawrence (keys & programming).] $30 -- Muslimgauze - "Salaam Alekum, Bastard" US CD (Soleilmoon) 1995 [Classic album from 1995 showcasing a wide variety of Bryn Jones' composition styles. Limited to 1850 copies. Mint. Deleted.] $10 -- Soundlab - "Stereophonic Retina ..." US 3" CD (Soundlab) 1997 [20 min. illbient sound collage produced by Singe & Verb for an installation at the 1997 Biennial Exhibition at the Whitney Museum Of American Art, NYC. Deleted.] $22 -- Zoviet France - "What Is Not True" UK CD (Charrm: cd17) 1993 [3 tracks, 74 min. of splendid, live atmospheric electronics recorded in Nottingham & Sheffield in March of 1993.] Thanks for looking. -Patrick pm.carey@utoronto.ca - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Artur Nowak" Subject: JMT reissued Date: 02 Sep 2001 19:25:23 +0200 I saw first three CDs from the reissue series of JMT catalogue by Winter & Winter. The packaging will be as usually by Winter - paper box. All have the same design: dark dlue or black (don't remember exactly), no graphics or pictures, just a piece of paper sticked around the box. Big, standard typeset on this piece or wraping-paper. It will look very nice on a shelf, since the side of the box look the same on all CDs. They will be numbered, it will be very difficult to avoid the temptation to buy them all just to have nice collection on the shelf ;-) Stefan Winter is smart guy, no question. __________________________________________________________________ Artur Nowak [arno at emd dot pl] muzyka.emd.pl - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kurt Gottschalk" Subject: Sept. Strings, nxt Sat. Date: 02 Sep 2001 18:02:04 +0000 Neues Kabarett presents September Songs: an evening of quiet strings Loren MazzaCane Connors - electric guitar Okkyung Lee - cello Neel Murgai - sitar, daf Kenta Nagai - guitar [solo and in concert] Loren MazzaCane Connors has been updating the blues and putting it into his own deep, distorted Fender terms for decades. He has made numerous solo recordings, as well as working with Thurston Moore, Alan Licht, Haino Keiji, Eugene Chadbourne and Jim O'Rourke. Okkyung Lee, a native of Korea, is a cellist/composer who explores contemporary classical, free improvisation, noise, Korean folk music, movies and jazz in order to create her original voice. Since she moved down to NYC last fall from Boston, she has performed with numerous musicians including Anthony Coleman, Andrea Parkins, Mark Dresser, Eyvind Kang, Ikue Mori, Billy Bang, Sabir Mateen and John Zorn along with her current groups Fictions, a tango project with a twist; Low Riders with two bass clarinets; and the Maoz-Lee-Kelly trio. Neel Murgai performs with numerous cross cultural and improvisational ensembles in New York. Pransemble combines Neel's sitar with Middle Eastern percussion (raquy Danziger), guitar and trumpet. Neel also spends much time with Dhafuzion, the sitar-freestylerap- funk-african, drumming-tap, dancing-break/dancing, zither, throat-singing performance troupe. Neel is also thankful to have spent much time working with Loren MazzaCane Conners in Haunted House. Kenta Nagai is a powerful and versatile guitarist whose work has taken him from the subways to ABCNoRio and the Knitting Factory with a wide variety of musical partners. His diverse outings range from duos with percussionists to work with musical saw player Chim Nabwee. More recently, he has concentrated on playing with and writing for dance performances. The performers will play solo sets and in combination. Sept. 8 9 pm $8 at the Brecht Forum 122 W. 27th St. 10th floor, Manhattan call 212-242-4201 1/9 to 28th; C to 23rd; F to 23rd; 6 to 28th; N/R to 28th _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "josephneff" Subject: RE: Shepp Supreme Date: 03 Sep 2001 02:16:38 -0400 Hello, ....the word that I'd heard on the alternative recording of "A Love Supreme" w/ Shepp is that the tapes do indeed exist, but that Mike Cuscuna finds the sound quality to be substandard, so it's doubtful that we'll see it released anytime soon. A drag, really. ....y'know, I've recently been listening to some live Roland Kirk, and have been wondering about an old cassette of live stuff that was released back in the early 90's called "The Man Who Cried Fire". Was this ever issued on CD? If so, how easy is it to obtain? I've lost track of the tape (either stolen or left under the seat of one of many used cars I possessed in the mid 90's) and the music was just smokin'. I'd love to replace it. It had one of the greatest sax blues that I've ever heard, flute workouts, multiple horn blasts, some great Kirkian raps, a bit from "When the Saints go Marching In", a Miles Davis impression, etc. Sadly, I can't even recall the label this was on, but the were originally, and possibly always, cassette only. Any info, of course, will be much appreciated. ....some recent positive experiences include..... Charles Gayle "Jazz Solo Piano" CD Neutral Milk Hotel "On Avery Island" and "In the Aeroplane Over the Sea" CDs Steve Lacy "Soprano Sax" CD Woody Allen "The Night Club Years 1964-68" 2LP "The Anthology of American Folk Music Vols. 1-3" "Magnolia" DVD (2nd viewing) I remain.... Joseph NP: "Otis Redding Live in Europe" LP NR: Herman Melville "Billy Budd" John Barth "The Friday Book" - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JonAbbey2@aol.com Subject: Re: Shepp Supreme Date: 03 Sep 2001 02:16:50 EDT In a message dated 9/3/01 1:54:48 AM, jneff@visuallink.com writes: << I've recently been listening to some live Roland Kirk, and have been wondering about an old cassette of live stuff that was released back in the early 90's called "The Man Who Cried Fire". Was this ever issued on CD? >> yeah, I have this on CD, on one of Joel Dorn's many labels, Night Records, distributed by Virgin. I'd be stunned if it's still in print, but really I have no idea. Jon www.erstwhilerecords.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: stephen.fruitman@idehist.umu.se (Stephen Fruitman) Subject: Radical Turkish Culture Date: 03 Sep 2001 09:14:39 +0200 (MET DST) Absolutely smokin=B4 new album by Burhan =D6cal (percussionist) & Jamaaladee= n Tacuma (bass), _Groove alla Turca_ (Birds and Blues). Seven Americans (including trumpet, trombone, guitar, rap vocals, sax) and nine Turks (oud, darbuka, clarinet, violin, ney, saz) in a dizzying display of muscle-flexing cross-cultural funk. And of course it can only be made better by the appearance of that stellar songstress Natacha Atlas on four tracks. A bit of information at . Regards, Stephen Stephen Fruitman Dept of Historical Studies Ume=E5 University SE-901 87 Ume=E5 Sweden - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Skip Heller Subject: Re: Shepp Supreme Date: 04 Sep 2001 00:57:48 -0700 None of the Night stuff seems to be in print, either as Night or stuff that Joel carried over to Label M (or 32 Jazz). Anyone but me heard his new Leon Parker or Blood Ulmer projects? skip h np: rahsaan roland kirk -- rip, rig, and panic - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andreas Dietz" Subject: Re: Odp: zorn in the concert hall Date: 03 Sep 2001 10:57:16 +0200 their website is www.wdr.de/radio/orchester/sinfonieorchester/konzerte/index.html Andreas np: Cecil Taylor - What´s New (Arista) >From: "Marcin Gokieli" > >Does anyone know whether how to get tix for this? > > > > the premiere of this new Zorn composition on behalf of West German >Radio is > > scheduled for Dec 14 and 15 2001 in Cologne. _________________________________________________________________ Downloaden Sie MSN Explorer kostenlos unter http://explorer.msn.de/intl.asp - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Francesco Martinelli" Subject: Re: Radical Turkish Culture Date: 03 Sep 2001 11:33:32 +0200 Very funny subject line.... :-))) I've been praising this group for two years now and it seems that finally= it got the needed exposure through the Montreal jazz fest; the Cd, at first released by Doublemoon in Turkey, was picked up by a major label and re-released in main Europe. Montreal reviews at http://www.pozitif-ist.com/montreal.htm I saw the group (minus Natacha) at Babylon, Istanbul, in April and it was smoking indeed (including air quality in the club). Burhan Ocal's recent ventures are quite exciting and rewarding for the listeners, but there's = a bunch of interesting musicians coming out from Turkey now, including Merc= an Dede, Faruk Tekbilek, and Kudsi Erguner. Tacuma is a frequent visitor of Istanbul since the days of World Bass on Gramavision. And for great, soul= ful pop, Sezen Aksu can hardly be beaten.... Francesco (leaving for Turkey on Oct .3) Absolutely smokin=B4 new album by Burhan =D6cal (percussionist) & Jamaala= deen Tacuma (bass), _Groove alla Turca_ (Birds and Blues). Seven Americans (including trumpet, trombone, guitar, rap vocals, sax) and nine Turks (ou= d, darbuka, clarinet, violin, ney, saz) in a dizzying display of muscle-flexing cross-cultural funk. And of course it can only be made better by the appearance of that stellar songstress Natacha Atlas on four tracks. A bit of information at . Regards, Stephe= n Stephen Fruitman Dept of Historical Studies Ume=E5 University SE-901 87 Ume=E5 Sweden - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stefan Verstraeten" Subject: Re: new bailey duo Date: 03 Sep 2001 17:37:40 +0200 Hello, Sorry for the late reply. THis cd called "Untitled improvisations" on the "ILLEGAL RADIO"-label is apparently their first cd. The cd itself is a CD-r, and it limited to 100 copies. All I know of this label is that is from the US (but the booklet gives no more details, please correct me if I missed something while reading the booklet). About the cd: Not immediately well-recorded (the drums go from inaudible to immediately very harsh). Dereks' playing however is superb with his hand made picks... gives him a very spontaneous harsh sound and style. The drummer (new to me) plays in the vein of Toney Oxley... although he only uses accoustic elements, but just like Toney, he uses a lot of found material. Conclusion: if Bailey is your God (like he is for me), go for it, but if you are not a completist... I would not buy it. Best wishes to all Stefan Verstraeten NP No Music 1998 and 1999 cd-boxes (and pproud to hear our own Belgian Fred van Hove in great shape) stefan.annik@planetinternet.be ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Patrice L. Roussel" > Subject: new Bailey duo > > DMG is listing a new Derek Bailey duo: > > 10.DEREK BAILEY & MICHAEL WELCH-Untitled Improvisations (Illegal Radio) > Splendid live duo improv with the grand-daddy of Euro-avant-jazz guitar and a > fine drummer. $15. > > Does anybody know where this label is from? > > Thanks, > > Patrice. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Artur Nowak" Subject: ---> Boredoms Rebore V.0 Date: 03 Sep 2001 17:54:10 +0200 Hi Philozorners, I saw enthusiastic review of Boredoms "Rebore V.0" album on amazon.com (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005J413/emd/), I enjoyed "Super Ar" a lot, plus, supposedly, this album is as good as Ground Zero "Plays Standards" (one of my favourites). The only issue is the price: 37 USD. Anybody heard this album? Is it really sooo good? __________________________________________________________________ Artur Nowak [arno at emd dot pl] muzyka.emd.pl - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: XRedbirdxx@aol.com Subject: jewel sleeve Date: 03 Sep 2001 11:59:28 EDT i recall discussion of the "jewel sleeve" a while back for compact cd storage and travel. they are rather expensive at jewelsleeve.com. has anyone found somewhere else to purchase them, or something similar? i'm going to europe for 6 months and would rather not leave my music behind... thanks, joseph - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pm.carey@utoronto.ca (PMC) Subject: Looking for: Joseph Zitt Date: 03 Sep 2001 12:35:56 +0100 Sorry to bother the list with this ... Joseph, If you read this, could you please get in touch. I emailed you back on Friday morning (31st) about a CD on your sale list, but I'm not sure if it got through. Thanks -Patrick pm.carey@utoronto.ca - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Edgar=20Lee?= Subject: Arabesk Date: 04 Sep 2001 02:50:46 +1000 (EST) I have spent the last few weeks ýn Turkey and Ý am now addýcted to Turkish musýc especýally the style called Arabesk. I have bought CDs and cassettes by Abdullah Papur, Ibrahým Tatlýses, as well as a few others. Could someone pleae advýse me of a book or websýte where I can learn more about thýs style and more of Turkish music?_ NP Abdullah Papur Anatolýan songs Edgar http://travel.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Travel - Got Itchy feet? Get inspired! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ken Waxman Subject: Re: Kirk & Dorn Date: 03 Sep 2001 13:04:13 -0400 (EDT) There was some other fine stuff in that gone-in-a-blink label too like a live Cannonball Adderley set. Dorn is now affiliated with (personal) record company #3 - Label M, which is reissuing some of the sessions he produced. Considering he was RRK's producer for many years he may have that Radio Music session and/or variations thereof skedded for release sometime in the future. You could always drop him a note and ask. Ken Waxman --- JonAbbey2@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 9/3/01 1:54:48 AM, > jneff@visuallink.com writes: > > << I've recently been listening to some live Roland > Kirk, and have been wondering about an old cassette of live stuff that was released back in the early 90's called "The Man Who Cried Fire". Was this ever issued on CD? >> > > yeah, I have this on CD, on one of Joel Dorn's many > labels, Night Records, distributed by Virgin. I'd be stunned if it's still in print _______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rob Allaert Subject: ZornListGalaxy Date: 03 Sep 2001 21:33:21 +0200 Zorn-agains, One of the most interesting places today to share music is=20 'http://www.audiogalaxy.com'. This webspace isn't limited to pop music = at=20 all. When you get there, register and download the small satelite software = (Win=20 or Linux). Then search for this group name: "ZornListGalaxy". Ask to = join=20 the group. Let me know you're from the ZornList and you'll be added=20 quickly. You need to join in order to be able to contact others and, more=20 importantly, share mp3's. Let's create a spot where we can discover New Music. It's up to you! greetings, Rob @ risk np: bj=F6rk - vespertine - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nirav Soni" Subject: Kelley, Rainey, Dorner, Neumann Date: 03 Sep 2001 16:48:25 -0400 zorn-agains, If any of y'all are hitting the Kelley/Rainey/Neumann/Dorner show at Tonic tonight, come say hi. I'll be the Asian kid with glasses and a blue ballcap. I'm sorta new to the city, so it'd be nice to meet some foaks. Cheers, Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 "One can not be at the same time all eye and all ear. "- Robert Bresson - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rob Allaert Subject: ZornListGalaxy Date: 03 Sep 2001 22:53:00 +0200 Zorn-agains, One of the most interesting places today to share music is=20 'http://www.audiogalaxy.com'. This webspace isn't limited to pop music = at=20 all. When you get there, register and download the small satelite software = (Win=20 or Linux). Then search for this group name: "ZornListGalaxy". Ask to = join=20 the group. Let me know you're from the ZornList and you'll be added=20 quickly. You need to join in order to be able to contact others and, more=20 importantly, share mp3's. Let's create a spot where we can discover New Music. It's up to you! greetings, Rob @ risk np: bj=F6rk - vespertine - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nathan Earixson Subject: Re: jewel sleeve Date: 03 Sep 2001 14:01:56 -0700 (PDT) I got them from the Jazz Loft (can't remember who suggested it) for a lot cheaper. -nme! --- XRedbirdxx@aol.com wrote: > i recall discussion of the "jewel sleeve" a while back for compact cd storage and travel. they > are rather expensive at jewelsleeve.com. has anyone found somewhere else to purchase them, or > something similar? i'm going to europe for 6 months and would rather not leave my music > behind... > > thanks, > joseph > > - > ===== *********************************************** "but I remember, when we were young." *********************************************** __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeton Ademaj" Subject: RE: Age, Sabbath, Zorn, Coltrane Date: 03 Sep 2001 17:05:27 -0400 hi steve good thing u avoided the warner sabs (except feel free to pick up sab 1 on warner, like i said the remaster is too different to satisfy completely, and i keep both versions) thanks fer the Zorn update, i'll give 'em a call peace _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeton Ademaj" Subject: MTV Knit Date: 03 Sep 2001 17:10:51 -0400 hey guys, i noticed this last tues. but i figured i'd ask the list what peeople think: has anyone noticed that apparently the knit will host the mtv video music awards on wed nite? hopefully they'll ride a wave back to non-crisis....:) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Perfect Sound Forever Subject: Fwd: Re: human rights via arts&culture Date: 03 Sep 2001 17:20:41 -0400 Hi all, I saw this group's presentation in NYC and it was very well done. for all of you around the bay area... Best, Jason >X-Sender: ilee@pop.dti.net >Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 13:36:56 -0400 >To: Perfect Sound Forever >From: iara lee >Subject: Re: human rights via arts&culture > > >thanks jason. hope people come so we can further discuss issues. >really feel the media so far has given a very superficial assessment of >the whole situation and it really deserves more clarification and deeper >awareness. > >thanks for your support. > >iara lee > >======================== >Hi Iara, > >Sure thing- I'd be glad to pass this along. I went to the benefit in NY >and it was very well done. > >Best, >Jason >======================== >SAVE THE DATE: thursday, sept 6/ 2001 in san francisco > >THANKS FOR SENDING OUT TO YOUR EMAIL LIST + FRIENDS >======================================== > >CAIPIRINHA + 39 EXPOSURE present > >BENEATH THE BORQA >support the women and children of afghanistan > >afghan women under the taliban regime are required to stay at home, >are denied access to health care & education, >are forbidden from working, >are forced to wear a borqa >and will be punished for the slightest misbehavior. >we encourage you to heighten your awareness >to bring about action against human rights violations that continue >to plague the global community. > >FILM + MUSIC + SPEAKERS + PHOTO GALLERY -->> HUMAN RIGHTS!!! > >thursday, sept 6/ 2001 >@ 39 exposure/the presidio: 39 mesa street * san francisco ca 94129 > >*7pm- doors open, gallery showing *8pm- film, music++ > >*short film by IARA LEE, edited by JOSH CRAMER >*photo exhibition: MARCUS BURNETT, BARRON RACHMAN and ANDRE VIEIRA >*music: ZYGOTE, CHRISTOPHER WILLITS >*speaker: SOHAILA HASHIMI, AFZAL RASHID > >further information: www.caipirinha.com and www.aah-usa.org > >if you are not able to attend but would like to join in the efforts to >support global issues and the people of afghanistan, please consider a >tax-deductible contribution. full proceeds donated to ACTION AGAINST >HUNGER (AAH), a 16 year old international humanitarian organization that >works in 40 countries, including three areas of afghanistan: kabul, >pansheer and hazaradjat. after the taliban expelled AAH from kabul in 1998 >along with other organizations, AAH has negotiated its return after >agreeing with certain fundamental principles, including free access to >beneficiaries. the total number of beneficiaries in afghanistan is 500,000 >- mostly women and children. proceeds will support programs of emergency >relief and long-term sustainable development. > >checks payable to >ACTION AGAINST HUNGER c/o BENEATH THE BORQA project >532 la guardia place #368 ny ny 10012 > >======================== >FOR MORE INFORMATION: > >212 780 5737 | CAIPIRINHA PRODUCTIONS >======================== > > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Skip Heller Subject: Re: ZornListGalaxy Date: 04 Sep 2001 15:17:53 -0700 > Zorn-agains, >=20 > One of the most interesting places today to share music is > 'http://www.audiogalaxy.com'. This webspace isn't limited to pop music at > all. >=20 > When you get there, register and download the small satelite software (Wi= n > or Linux). Then search for this group name: "ZornListGalaxy". Ask to join > the group. Let me know you're from the ZornList and you'll be added > quickly. >=20 > You need to join in order to be able to contact others and, more > importantly, share mp3's. >=20 > Let's create a spot where we can discover New Music. >=20 > It's up to you! >=20 > greetings, > Rob @ risk > np: bj=F6rk - vespertine >=20 > - >=20 Have they got the Mac version ready and up yet? skip h - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeroen de Boer Subject: Re: ZornListGalaxy Date: 04 Sep 2001 03:02:35 +0200 Audiogalaxy is great, and they also have a mac-version. Go to versiontracker to download the mac-client. I found some pretty nice mp3's and the nice thing is you can put your choices on hold until the person who has the files gets online. The program automatically starts downloading when he/she is. Can't wait to get those 50 Raymond Scott-songs.. Pay them a visit! Jeroen >> Zorn-agains, >> >> One of the most interesting places today to share music is >> 'http://www.audiogalaxy.com'. This webspace isn't limited to pop music at >> all. >> > Have they got the Mac version ready and up yet? > > skip h > > > - > Jeroen de Boer content director Cyberslag Content Providing Damsterdiep 15 9711SG Groningen The Netherlands t +31(0)503115496 m +31 (0)624814506 f +31(0)503119447 jeroen@cyberslag.nl www.cyberslag.nl - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeroen de Boer Subject: Re: ZornListGalaxy Date: 04 Sep 2001 03:06:05 +0200 > Have they got the Mac version ready and up yet? I forgot. When you're at versiontracker, search for macsatellite Jeroen Jeroen de Boer content director Cyberslag Content Providing Damsterdiep 15 9711SG Groningen The Netherlands t +31(0)503115496 m +31 (0)624814506 f +31(0)503119447 jeroen@cyberslag.nl www.cyberslag.nl - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Herb Levy Subject: Avant garde classics on Mappings, week of August 28, 2001 Date: 03 Sep 2001 23:56:55 -0500 Hi y'all, This week on Mappings , the fourth annual John Cage birthday show: you'll hear several versions of two works for piano by John Cage: Music of Changes and The Beatles 1962-1970. The show went online Monday evening around 10:00 PM (-0800 GMT) and will remain online at the above URL for a week. Last week's program (featuring recently reconstructed performances of classic avant garde works by Robert Ashley, Larry Austin, Hugo Ball, Johanna M Beyer, George Cacioppo, Cornelius Cardew, Phillip Corner, Malcolm Goldstein, Dick Higgins, Toshi Ichiyanagi, Tomas Marco, Erik Satie, James Tenney, Tristan Tzara, Robert Wilson, Christian Wolff) is still available in the Mappings archive , where you can also find play lists for the program since it began in March 1998. Hope you tune in to the program. Bests, Herb - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andy Marks Subject: Re: New Patton project? Date: 04 Sep 2001 04:31:17 -0700 (PDT) What you're talking about is called Moonraker. It's only been a live project though. And Buckethead was only involved in one performance. As far as I know, there are no plans to record anything. But, I do have mp3 of 2 performances, one with Buckethead on guitar and the other with Ichiro Agata of Melt Banana. -----Original Message----- Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 7:35 AM Hi zorn-listers, I've heard about a new Mike Patton project with Buckethead and a DJ. Anyone knows if that has already been recorded or there is any release date? Thanks in advance. Efrén del Valle n.p: Dave Douglas "Witness" (BMG). This certainly will appear in most of the 2001 Top lists here. One of the best things Douglas has done to date, IMHO. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Perfect Sound Forever Subject: Re: Radical Turkish Culture Date: 04 Sep 2001 09:03:31 -0400 Hi all, Groove alla Turca is indeed a fine CD. Anyone who's interested in other modern Turkish music owes it to themselves to check out Replikas- a band that's very much akin to Krautrock. You can hear some song samples at: http://artists2.iuma.com/IUMA/Bands/Replikas/ Their latest CD (Koledoyuran) is available in NYC at Other Music. For anyone overseas, ReR in England also carries it (http://www.megacorp.u-net.com). Another interesting local band there is Zen- also in the rock mode but pretty bonkers. They've had one of their CD's released here in the States by Ecstatic Peace! (they say that they still have copies of this available: http://www.smellslikerecords.com/ecstatic/). There was also recently a good compilation of '60's and '70's Turkish rock/garage bands on Dionysus Records called "Hava Narghile": check out http://www.dionysusrecords.com/default.html Sad to say, because the Turkish economy is in the dumpster (even more than the U.S. one) and because the local record companies are pretty lazy and/or corrupt, not a lot of this music is able to reach the Western world. Best, Jason -- Perfect Sound Forever online music magazine perfect-sound@furious.com http://www.furious.com/perfect - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Francesco Martinelli" Subject: Re: Radical Turkish Culture Date: 04 Sep 2001 15:56:28 +0200 > Groove alla Turca is indeed a fine CD. Anyone who's interested in other modern Turkish music owes it to themselves to check out Replikas- a band that's very much akin to Krautrock. Is that a compliment or an insult? > Another interesting local band there is Zen- also in the rock mode but pretty bonkers. Ditto.. > Sad to say, because the Turkish economy is in the dumpster (even more than the U.S. one) and because the local record companies are pretty lazy and/or corrupt (even more than the U.S. ones?) That's hard to believe! selamlar Francesco - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JonAbbey2@aol.com Subject: Re: Radical Turkish Culture Date: 04 Sep 2001 10:21:17 EDT In a message dated 9/4/01 9:10:46 AM, perfect-sound@furious.com writes: << Another interesting local band there is Zen- also in the rock mode but pretty bonkers. They've had one of their CD's released here in the States by Ecstatic Peace! >> I'm a big fan of this record. anyone know if there are more CDs by Zen available anywhere? Jon www.erstwhilerecords.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Smith" Subject: More on AudioGalaxy Satellite (long) [was RE: ZornListGalaxy] Date: 04 Sep 2001 10:40:42 -0400 I absolutely don't want to rain on anyone's parade, since I've recently become an inveterate AudioGalaxy Satellite user, but in the desire that everyone knows what they're getting into, I thought I'd mention that when you download the Satellite program - which is a new Napster alternative that combines a freestanding FTP application with a web-based central server - it also downloads and auto-installs a spyware program called Webhancer. The purpose of the Webhancer program is to "track" the "metrics" of your web-surfing, allegedly anonymously, and "report" it back to unnamed companies. While they claim that what they're doing is not an invasion of privacy and that your personal security and privacy are never compromised, it's still noteworthy that the program downloads and installs automatically, and that furthermore, if you run the "uninstall" instructions for Webhancer provided by AudioGalaxy, it DOES NOT uninstall. It's still there, purring away in the background, sending whatever to whomever - it just becomes invisible. This didn't deter me, however. With a bit of research, I was able to find a program called Ad-Aware, a free download that searches your drives and registries for unwanted spyware (most of which tracks your surfing and then sells it to advertisers so that they can target their spam to your likely consumption patterns), and then cleanly uninstalls that spyware. Those working behind personal or corporate firewalls may not encounter the problem at all - I've exchanged private e-mail with one Z'lister whose personal firewall prevented the Webhancer download. But personally, I was amazed at all the little critters Ad-Aware dug out of my system. Some programs are engineered to not run without the related spy components, but this is not the case with Satellite. I've had a dandy time, therefore, downloading old tracks by Mercyful Fate, Venom, Obituary and Emperor as research for a piece I'm working on, not to mention a complete Japanese concert by King Crimson spinoff ProjeKct Two. The Satellite itself is a dandy little application that works in the background while you do other things. Many nights I'll be sitting here with two files simultaneously downloading while two more files are being uploaded by other users, all with little appreciable drain on my system resources. On the other hand, given that its database server is even more centrally contained than Napster's was, it's generally assumed that it will be even easier to bust these guys and put them out of business when they've attracted the requisite attention. Indeed, already tunes by Bjork, Metallica and other usual suspects have been blocked, though people are getting around this through clever renaming conventions (like listing the entire contents of the new Bjork album 'Vespertine' as being tunes by someone named "Bjork Vespertine." And, as Rob mentioned, there are indeed some pretty copious listings for avant-garde music files, including an amount of Nurse With Would nearly as daunting as their real-life discography. I'll further add, in case Hilary Rosen is tracking my e-mail now, that in every case in which I've liked something I've downloaded, I've gone right out and purchased the CD if it's commercially available. Who wants to be chained to the computer? Steve Smith ssmith36@sprynet.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Francesco Martinelli" Subject: ZornListGalaxy Date: 04 Sep 2001 17:30:57 +0200 who's on the zorn galaxy group right now? F - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Francesco Martinelli" Subject: anrhony braxton first set Date: 04 Sep 2001 18:25:40 +0200 Messaggio in formato MIME composto da piy parti. ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C1356F.0068E180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I downloaded from audio galaxy the file in the subject, but it sounds = like anything but. A guy talks about a video they shoot in Istanbul's = Grand bazaar, and how they bought a saz there (sounds like an elektro) = and proceeds to play a song on it, with rockish background. After that, = same guy picks up a sarod, and goes for a bit on it. Guys screaming their heads off all over, but the sound is very good - = this was taped with excellent equipment. Anyone has a clue about it and why it goes under anthony braxton's name? Is it a joke? Francesco ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C1356F.0068E180 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I downloaded from audio galaxy the file = in the=20 subject, but it sounds like anything but. A guy talks about a video they = shoot=20 in Istanbul's Grand bazaar, and how they bought a saz there (sounds like = an=20 elektro) and proceeds to play a song on it, with rockish background. = After that,=20 same guy picks up a sarod, and goes for a bit on it.
Guys screaming their heads off all = over, but the=20 sound is very good - this was taped with excellent = equipment.
Anyone has a clue about it and why it = goes under=20 anthony braxton's name?
Is it a joke?
Francesco
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The details, the actual songs to share can be communicated using=20= the chat feature. =A0 Some Rules: =A0 1) Don't send songs to the whole group. 2) Ask the other member if he or she would like you to send a song. 3) Don't promote other groups here. 4) Persevere in our well known Zorn-etiquette ;-) greetings, Rob @ risk np: The Nerve Key - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PARROTT MATTHEW J Subject: Fujii-Tamura Duo Date: 04 Sep 2001 11:22:48 -0600 (MDT) CCM PRESENTS MUSICIANS SATOKO FUJII AND NATSUKI TAMURA Date/Time: Friday, Sept. 14, 8:00 PM Location: Unitarian Universalist Church of Boulder (near 50th and Pennsylvania Ave., turn N off Baseline Rd. to 55th, turn W on Pennsylvania, church is on N side of street.) Admission: Free Presented by: Coalition for Creative Music More information: Coalition Hotline, 303.735.3163 The Coalition for Creative Music presents a duo concert with Satoko Fujii (piano) and Natsuki Tamura (trumpet). From Japan, the husband and wife team of Tamura and Fujii have recently gained prominence in the international scene. Fujii has released nine recordings as a leader with such notables as Paul Bley, Mark Dresser, Jim Black, and Mark Feldman, and big band recordings featuring East-Coast and Japanese versions of the Satoko Fujii Orchestra. In 2001, Satoko embarked on highly successful tours of Japan and Europe and was nominated as "Best Composer" by the Jazz Journalists Association. Check out the Coalition Webpage! http://www.colorado.edu/StudentGroups/thecoalition/ - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dgasque@aol.com Subject: Re: More on AudioGalaxy Satellite (long) [was RE: ZornListGalaxy] Date: 04 Sep 2001 13:44:20 EDT In a message dated 9/4/01 10:46:41 AM Eastern Daylight Time, ssmith36@sprynet.com writes: << I absolutely don't want to rain on anyone's parade, since I've recently become an inveterate AudioGalaxy Satellite user, but in the desire that everyone knows what they're getting into, I thought I'd mention that when you download the Satellite program - which is a new Napster alternative that combines a freestanding FTP application with a web-based central server - it also downloads and auto-installs a spyware program called Webhancer. The purpose of the Webhancer program is to "track" the "metrics" of your web-surfing, allegedly anonymously, and "report" it back to unnamed companies. (snip) This didn't deter me, however. With a bit of research, I was able to find a program called Ad-Aware, a free download that searches your drives and registries for unwanted spyware (most of which tracks your surfing and then sells it to advertisers so that they can target their spam to your likely consumption patterns), and then cleanly uninstalls that spyware. Those working behind personal or corporate firewalls may not encounter the problem at all - I've exchanged private e-mail with one Z'lister whose personal firewall prevented the Webhancer download. But personally, I was amazed at all the little critters Ad-Aware dug out of my system. >> Indeed...Ad-Aware is a dynamite app, and it's absolutely free, though there is a paid version that gives you a few non-essential perks, like browser integration and download filtering. This baby goes as far as digging into the Windows registry for abondoned adware occurances, and gives you choices on each file as to keep or delete them. It should be mentioned that some other apps are disabled a/o deleted if you let the program do its thing. Comet Cursor and Gator are two apps that will not work without the adware programs running. -- =dg= - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Revue des Fossiles" Subject: Re: Radical Turkish Culture Date: 04 Sep 2001 11:06:07 -0700 There's at least one other full length album available from this band that preceded their second release, "Derya." Check out the following bio - http://kunstradio.at/BIOS/zenbio.html Finally, another ZeN full length release is due sometime in the near future from the Father Yod label. - RdF. NP - Harvester - Hemat. >I'm a big fan of this record. anyone know if there are more CDs by Zen >available anywhere? > >Jon >www.erstwhilerecords.com _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Skip Heller Subject: satellite Date: 05 Sep 2001 11:14:34 -0700 Is this nasty piece of spyware only in the PC version, or in the Mac as well. And, if it is in the Mac, is there a good piece of shareware that will render it impotent? skip h - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David Egan" Subject: Re: John Coltrane - The Olatunji Concert Date: 04 Sep 2001 12:17:44 -0700 I'm going from a pre-release CD with no liner notes at all, but it looks like this is all recycled material. No alternate versions. This seems like a good CD to lead a casual listener down the garden path, but nothing interesting for the dedicated listener: Welcome A Love Supreme Part 1 Dear Lord Song Of Praise Wise One Tunji Ogunde Spiritual Due out 9/25. - Dave >Do they mention anything about the other new Coltrane release >titled "Spiritual"? I was wondering if it is new material or >previously issued. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marcin Gokieli" Subject: Odp: JMT reissued Date: 04 Sep 2001 23:02:57 +0200 Where did you see them? Marcin Gokieli marcin.gokieli@mospan.pl marcingokieli@go2.pl Generally speaking, if a philosopher offers to 'dissolve' the problem you are working on, tell him to go climb a tree - Jerry Fodor ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 7:25 PM > I saw first three CDs from the reissue series of JMT catalogue by Winter & > Winter. The packaging will be as usually by Winter - paper box. All have the > same design: dark dlue or black (don't remember exactly), no graphics or > pictures, just a piece of paper sticked around the box. Big, standard > typeset on this piece or wraping-paper. It will look very nice on a shelf, > since the side of the box look the same on all CDs. They will be numbered, > it will be very difficult to avoid the temptation to buy them all just to > have nice collection on the shelf ;-) Stefan Winter is smart guy, no > question. > > __________________________________________________________________ > Artur Nowak [arno at emd dot pl] muzyka.emd.pl > > > - > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Francesco Martinelli" Subject: turkish prog Date: 04 Sep 2001 23:19:09 +0200 very interesting site... in fact antique dealers in Istanbul always show me their Baris Manco Lp first! http:/ / psychevanhetfolk.homestead .com/TurkishProgressive.html francesco - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: satellite Date: 04 Sep 2001 18:03:44 -0500 On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 11:14:34AM -0700, Skip Heller wrote: > Is this nasty piece of spyware only in the PC version, or in the Mac as > well. And, if it is in the Mac, is there a good piece of shareware that > will render it impotent? In the Linux version at least, the installation process prompts for approval of all the spyware. I suspect most people just sort of nod, slackjawed, and let it in, but those of us who have paid attention have been pretty much able to keep it out. -- |> ~The only thing that is not art is inattention~ --- Marcel Duchamp <| | jzitt@metatronpress.com http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt | | Latest CD: Jerusaklyn http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt | | Comma: Voices of New Music Silence: the John Cage Discussion List | - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: patRice Subject: Trembling Before G-d Date: 05 Sep 2001 09:48:48 +0200 Hi y'all. Had the pleasure of seeing Trembling before G-d last night. Very interesting subject, and also rather moving. As far as Zorn's soundtrack goes: only bits and pieces of the Filmworks release were used, but they did fit very well with the imagery. What did surprise me was the fact that there were two or three musical pieces in the film that were not by Zorn. Oh, and the weird track with the drum-computer and JZ singing was used as an instrumental only. patRice np: Tabla Beat Science, Tala Matrix nr: Skin & Ink - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Perfect Sound Forever Subject: Re: Radical Turkish Culture Date: 05 Sep 2001 09:09:54 -0400 On Tue, 4 Sep 2001 10:21:17 EDT, JonAbbey2@aol.com said: <<< Another interesting local band there is Zen- also in the rock mode but <> Subject: vienna this weekend Date: 05 Sep 2001 18:10:57 +0300 Be in Vienna, Austria this week, Thu night - Sun morning. Any interesting musical events I should know about? Or chummy listers that want to point me to a cool bar or something? Sorry for short notice. -- Vincent Kargatis np: Barry Adamson - "Dirty Barry" (Oedipus Schmoedipus) (np auto-generated with http://www.oddsock.org/tools/dosomething/) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JonAbbey2@aol.com Subject: Re: vienna this weekend Date: 05 Sep 2001 11:29:19 EDT In a message dated 9/5/01 11:10:42 AM, lartis@ath.forthnet.gr writes: << Be in Vienna, Austria this week, Thu night - Sun morning. Any interesting musical events I should know about? >> Efzeg is playing B72 Thursday night (www.b72.at). they're one of the most exciting bands in the Vienna/Durian scene, Martin Siewert, Burkhard Stangl, Boris Hauf, dieb 13, w/ live video manipulation by Billy Roisz. if you go, please convey my regards to Burkhard if you have a chance, and tell him I'll see him in Berlin next month at Christof's festival. for those of you not in Vienna, I just got Efzeg a show on October 24 at Tonic, along with two other exciting projects from the Durian crew. more details on the Tonic site... Jon www.erstwhilerecords.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mads Ruby" Subject: Re: vienna this weekend Date: 05 Sep 2001 17:51:22 +0200 Vincent Kargatis wrote: > np: Barry Adamson - "Dirty Barry" (Oedipus Schmoedipus) Aah, Barry Adamson!!! Apart from the fact that there isn=B4t a dull moment on any of his = albums, has anyone on the list heard his first album "Moss Side Story"? = This is essential listening to anyone who=B4s into Spillane, the = resemblance is striking... Mads - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Vincent Kargatis / Anne Larson" Subject: Re: vienna this weekend Date: 05 Sep 2001 19:46:59 +0300 > Be in Vienna, Austria this week, Thu night - Sun morning. Any interesting > musical events I should know about? Or chummy listers that want to point me > to a cool bar or something? Sorry for short notice. On digest, so maybe haven't seen any responses, but I found a listing for a Charizma concert featuring Efzeg tomorrow night. Anyone going? It's at B72 - is that easy to get to from the center? When do shows usually start? (since i'm on digest, please group reply for direct email) -- Vincent Kargatis np: Oval - "Tonregie" (Systemisch) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arthur Gadney" Subject: New RUINS CD + tour Date: 05 Sep 2001 18:48:32 +0000 hello Has anybody heard the new Ruins CD on Tzadik?? I have seen they live a couple of times and they have always been incredible. Probably one of the best live bands around. They are touring Europe soon, if you have the chance to see them, don't miss it!!!!!!!!! ------RUINS Europe tour------- 10/02 Copenhagen 10/03 Hamburg 10/04 Koln 10/05 Den Haag 10/06 Brussel 10/07 Orleans 10/09 Paris 10/11 Toulouse 10/12 Pau 10/15 Bordeaux 10/16 Villeurvanne 10/17 Torino 10/18 Massa Carrara 10/19 Bologna 10/20 Milano 10/21 Rome 10/23 Zurich 10/24 Geneve 10/25 Bern 10/26 Innsbruck 10/27 Wels 10/28 Vienna 10/29 Maribor 10/30 Ljubljana 10/31 Zagreb 11/01 Berlin 11/03 Bremen 11/04 Oslo 11/05-06 Sweden 11/07-11 Finland _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Patrice L. Roussel" Subject: question about... Bob Monder Date: 05 Sep 2001 12:40:21 -0700 I saw the following record: *** - IN THIS WORLD: Charles Pillow Charles Pillow; Pete McCann; Peter Erskine; Bob Moses; Bob Monder; Matt Wilson; etc. 2001 - Summit Records (USA), DCD 301 (CD) and was wondering if there is really a "Bob Monder", of if it could just be a typo and is in fact "Ben Monder". Thanks, Patrice. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Sean Westergaard" Subject: RE: question about... Bob Monder Date: 05 Sep 2001 15:37:53 -0400 we've got Ben as the guitarist in our database. looks like that's a typo. Summit must have picked up the proofreader from Leo records. sean -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-zorn-list@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Patrice L. Roussel Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 3:40 PM Cc: proussel@ichips.intel.com I saw the following record: -- *** - IN THIS WORLD: Charles Pillow Charles Pillow; Pete McCann; Peter Erskine; Bob Moses; Bob Monder; Matt Wilson; etc. 2001 - Summit Records (USA), DCD 301 (CD) -- and was wondering if there is really a "Bob Monder", of if it could just be a typo and is in fact "Ben Monder". Thanks, Patrice. - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Vincent Kargatis / Anne Larson" Subject: large mainstream online buying Date: 05 Sep 2001 23:08:38 +0300 I've historically gone with cdconnection.com for almost all of my large mainstream-music orders (stuff that these big stores have, 20+ cd orders), because their prices were competitive and shipping free. But for some reason many of the prices there for records on my current list are quite high, so cdc is out this round. But what are the other cheap options - places like cdnow can really gitcha on shipping. cheap-cds.com seems an option, but they limit their order sizes to 9 at a time, which annoyed me enough to make me write this request. Any other bulk-buying misers out there? This is basically for major-label, mixed-genre stuff - interested in one-stop shops. -- Vincent Kargatis np: Bill Frisell - "Pipe Down" (Nashville) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeton Ademaj" Subject: Re: Zorn List Digest V3 #560 Date: 06 Sep 2001 09:02:12 -0400 Hi All sorry for my obvious, silly error...: hey guys, i noticed this last tues. but i figured i'd ask the list what peeople think: has anyone noticed that apparently the knit will host the mtv video music awards on wed nite? hopefully they'll ride a wave back to non-crisis....:) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rob Allaert Subject: ZornListGalaxy Update Date: 06 Sep 2001 21:46:25 +0200 We are 23 members right now. greetings, Rob @ risk np: bj=F6rk.vespertine - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rob Allaert Subject: New Friedlander on Tzadik Date: 06 Sep 2001 23:30:10 +0200 Erik Friedlander: "I just finished mixing a new cd for Tzadik this month (July). It will be called "Grains of Paradise".This project is Middle Eastern pop music meets high brow Lounge-- scored for cello, 10 violins, classical guitar, acoustic bass, percussion. These nine tracks will be out this coming November." Players: Satoshi Takeishi, Trevor Dunn, Bryce Dessner (gtr), Joyce Hammann (vln); more information to come. MP3 Sampler from new CD on www.erikfriedlander.com! greetings, Rob @ risk np: mark.dresser - eye'll be seeing you - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Smith" Subject: October Tzadiks... Composers, at least Date: 07 Sep 2001 02:38:16 -0400 Hi all: These days I'm only getting the classical books from Koch, so there may well be things coming out in October that I don't know anything about. But I wanted to mention the two listed in the classical release book, since they're both winners. Whichever Zornlister it was who suggested months ago that Bobby Previte release his Miro suite on Tzadik wins the award for prescience - though note from the personnel that this is actually a new studio recording. CHRISTIAN WOLFF BURDOCKS TZA CD 7071 Composer Series Jennifer Choi, Stephen Drury, Fred Frith, Joan Jeanrenaud, Miya Masaoka, Gordon Mumma, Bob Ostertag, Peter Warhaftig, William Winant, Christian Wolff Burdocks / Tuba Song / Trio III For half a century legendary scholar Christian Wolff has created a very personal musical response to John Cage's challenging experiments. Three of his most distinctive compositions receive inspiring performances here by a collection of San Francisco and New York's best and most imaginative performers. Fred Frith, Joan Jeanrenaud, Bob Ostertag, Miya Masaoka and Stephen Drury are just a few of the remarkable players percussion virtuoso William Winant has brought together to pay tribute to the fascinating work of this conceptual visionary, who performs at the piano with an all-star ensemble on his most famous composition Burdocks. BOBBY PREVITE THE 23 CONSTELLATIONS OF JOAN MIRO TZA CD 7072 Composer Series Bobby Previte, Lew Soloff, Ralph Alessi, Jane Ira Bloom, Ned Rothenberg, Michel Gentile, Jamie Saft, Elizabeth Panzer, John Bacon, Wayne Horvitz Sunrise / The Escape Ladder / People at Night Guided by the Phophorescent Tracks of Snails / Women at the Beach / Woman with Blonde Armpit Combing Her Hair by the Light of the Stars / Morning Star / Wounded Personage / Women and Birds / Women at Night / Acrobatic Dancers / On the Thirteenth, the Ladder Brushed the Firmament / Nocturne / The Poetess / Awakening in the Early Morning / Toward the Rainbow / Women Encircled by the Flight of a Bird / Women at the Seashore Made Iridescent by a Passing Swan / The Migratory Bird / Cyphers and Constellations in Love with a Woman / The Beautiful Bird Reveals the Unknown to a Pair of Lovers / The Rose Dusk Caresses the Sex of Women and Birds / The Passage of the Divine Bird An exciting new musical universe from the mind of performer/composer Bobby Previte. Filled with sweeping gestures and meticulous detail, The 23 Constellations of Joan Miro is Bobby Previte's dream project and one that he's been working on for over six years. Performed here with an all-star ensemble, Constellations is beautifully recorded and presented with a lush 36 page booklet containing color reproductions of all twenty-three of Miro's masterpieces. Previte's most original compositional achievment is also his most delightful. Steve Smith ssmith36@sprynet.com NP - Sigh, "Corpsecry - Angelfall," 'Imaginary Sonicscape' (Century Media) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Skip Heller Subject: Re: October Tzadiks... Composers, at least Date: 08 Sep 2001 00:06:48 -0700 > BOBBY PREVITE > THE 23 CONSTELLATIONS OF JOAN MIRO > TZA CD 7072 > Composer Series > > Bobby Previte, Lew Soloff, Ralph Alessi, Jane Ira Bloom, Ned Rothenberg, > Michel Gentile, Jamie Saft, Elizabeth Panzer, John Bacon, Wayne Horvitz > With any luck, this oughta bring up some props for Soloff, who is about the most under-appreciated all-around trumpet player in life. skip h np: Ruben & the Jets -- For Real - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BigD831@aol.com Subject: Groove alla Turca Date: 07 Sep 2001 14:08:54 EDT is this album available in the U.S.? (I don't live in New York City) thanks, Daniela - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeroen de Boer Subject: some metalrecommendations Date: 07 Sep 2001 22:08:52 +0200 Hi all, This week I came across two very interesting albums which I think are interesting for those who are into extreme metal: Krisiun - Ageless Venomous These guys from Brazil play very fast deathmetal, at moments heavily influenced by Morbid Angel. The clear and vey dry production make them an exception in the genre though. Nice guitarsolos and highly structured compostions and fast, fast, fast. Mastodon - Lifesblood (ep) Out on Relapse soon (I think next week). This is the new band of ex-Today Is The Day drummer Bran Dailor so you know what to expect in the percussive department. Altough the music has a lot of TITD-elements, they sound a lot heavier with grunt like vocals and thrashy riffing. Jazzy at times, funny samples, but above all fenomenal musicianship. Maybe the most refreshing band on the label, next to Dillinger Escape Plan. Jeroen Jeroen de Boer content director Cyberslag Content Providing Damsterdiep 15 9711SG Groningen The Netherlands t +31(0)503115496 m +31 (0)624814506 f +31(0)503119447 jeroen@cyberslag.nl www.cyberslag.nl - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: hatta Subject: From A Window Date: 07 Sep 2001 16:00:33 -0700 Since no one else has mentioned it, I thought I'd pass along a recommendation for the new Wayne Horvitz Four Plus One Ensemble album 'From a Window'. I was able to get an early copy from Wayne himself at a recent Seattle 'Pigpen' show (which was also fantastic BTW) I was able to talk to Wayne a bit about the album, and he said that it was the most fun he has ever had in a recording session, that it seemed like the whole thing was coffee breaks and fun times. The only negative he said was that it was being release on 'Avant' limiting it's audience. I find it hard to actually review music so I will just make a few general statements. First off there is a lot more of Tucker Martine's processing on this album, It is still very subtle and laid back but he has really come into his own and working as player in his own right. It is an interesting concept live processing, in that it takes the concept of the "studio as instrument" and makes it into a reality. It can be done live. See track three, "Julian's Ballad" and track four, "People Just Float" for some prime examples of the Martine processing. There is some fantastic work by Julian Priester, especially on the first track "Crispin and Lisa's Duet", but also in various segments of "Leave Here Now". Julian is often used in an almost soundscaping fashion on most the other tracks, notably the final track "Willy's Music". While there is no lyrical singing from Reggie Watts, he does do some nice vocalizations on "Sweeter than the Day". Skerik fans will find some really nice work from him on baritone sax underscoring some really low trombone on "Leave Here Now", which also features all the members well in an almost traditional solo swapping style, but has a more interesting modern flavor to it. This long song is absolutely fantastic, meandering along with solos and duos and increasing in intensity for its whole >10min length. Eyvind Kang shines on "People Just Float" and "From a Window", they latter being the most classical flavored of the album. Wayne of course plays wonderfully almost everywhere, going from sound effects with the Nord to elegant piano, to jazzy rifts on a host of instruments. I love his compositions and this album really highlights some of his best. All in all the album has much the sound and feeling as the first Four Plus One album. It is great headphone music as the the layers of complexity are rich and subtle. -Robert - - - Wayne Horvitz, the Four Plus One Ensemble "From a Window" (avant 080) 1) Crispin and Lisa's Duet 2) Sweeter Than the Day 3) Julian's Ballad 4) People Just Float 5) Leave Here Now 6) From a Window 7) Willy's Music Personnel: Wayne Horvitz, keyboards Julian Priester, Trombone Eyvind Kang, Violin Reggie Watts, Keys, Vox Tucker Martine, Live Processing Special Guest Skerik, Baritone Sax -Robert -- "Education is experience, and the essence of experience is self-reliance." -T.H. White, 'The Sword in the Stone' - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: William Crump Subject: Re: From A Window Date: 07 Sep 2001 16:23:37 -0700 hatta wrote: > Since no one else has mentioned it, I thought I'd pass along a > recommendation for the new Wayne Horvitz Four Plus One Ensemble album > 'From a Window'. Wow, this review has really got me hot to get a copy of this. > The > only negative he said was that it was being release on 'Avant' > limiting it's audience. I heard once, and maybe I misunderstood what I was hearing, that Zorn puts things out on Avant that he knows will sell well. Mike Rizzi, was I smoking too much Brotzmann that night, or did I hear that correctly? > It is an interesting concept live processing, in that it > takes the concept of the "studio as instrument" and makes it into a > reality. It can be done live. I first got a whiff of this notion from the Evan Parker Electro-Acoustic Ensemble, and it's such a fertile concept. Live sound processing as an extension of the art of the improvisor -- what a gas! This really suggests guerilla tactics a la Zorn's game pieces, and I wondered if anybody had heard of any Cobra performances that involved live guerilla remixers/processors as well as instrumentalists. William Crump - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeroen de Boer Subject: some metalrecommendations Date: 07 Sep 2001 22:08:52 +0200 Hi all, This week I came across two very interesting albums which I think are interesting for those who are into extreme metal: Krisiun - Ageless Venomous These guys from Brazil play very fast deathmetal, at moments heavily influenced by Morbid Angel. The clear and vey dry production make them an exception in the genre though. Nice guitarsolos and highly structured compostions and fast, fast, fast. Mastodon - Lifesblood (ep) Out on Relapse soon (I think next week). This is the new band of ex-Today Is The Day drummer Bran Dailor so you know what to expect in the percussive department. Altough the music has a lot of TITD-elements, they sound a lot heavier with grunt like vocals and thrashy riffing. Jazzy at times, funny samples, but above all fenomenal musicianship. Maybe the most refreshing band on the label, next to Dillinger Escape Plan. Jeroen Jeroen de Boer content director Cyberslag Content Providing Damsterdiep 15 9711SG Groningen The Netherlands t +31(0)503115496 m +31 (0)624814506 f +31(0)503119447 jeroen@cyberslag.nl www.cyberslag.nl - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dan Frank Kuehn Subject: Wayne Horvitz - Pigpen Date: 07 Sep 2001 19:03:00 -0600 hatta or anybody, What's the most recent Pigpen? I haven't seen anything new for years, since Daylight. I've got 4 other, earlier PPs, and be glad to snap up anything they do. Dan - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Julian" Subject: Re: Wayne Horvitz - Pigpen Date: 08 Sep 2001 16:58:24 +1000 > What's the most recent Pigpen? I haven't seen anything new for years, > since Daylight. I've got 4 other, earlier PPs, and be glad to snap up > anything they do. As far as I understood, Pigpen departed when Zony came along (well not necessarily in that order)... - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Neil H. Enet" Subject: Godflesh Date: 08 Sep 2001 10:11:34 -0400 Hello list, I've recently purchased GOFLESH double CD compilation "In All Languages". I really liked one track from the "Us and Them" album that mixed their typical grindcore with drum n bass beats. Is the whole album like this? What bands are doing this? What are your recommendations for good, techno influence grindcore (not that sh*t that's playing the radio right now). Thank you Neil H. Enet ------------ NP. RADIOHEAD - Kid A (Finally decided to give this band a try, and it's an excellent album. I left RADIOHEAD back in their PABLO HONEY phase and never listened to them again. Glad I did.) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dave Trenkel Subject: Re: Wayne Horvitz - Pigpen Date: 08 Sep 2001 09:41:13 -0700 At 7:03 PM -0600 9/7/2001, Dan Frank Kuehn wrote: >hatta or anybody, > >What's the most recent Pigpen? I haven't seen anything new for years, >since Daylight. I've got 4 other, earlier PPs, and be glad to snap up >anything they do. I don't think Pigpen has released anything since the debut of Zony Mash (I think Briggan Krause's moving to NYC had something to do with the demise). However, there were a few performances in Seattle a while ago with Zony Mash +Briggan, Fred Chalenor and Mike Stone under the name PigMash. Don't know if it was recorded, but sounds like it would've been great. Also, Krause's CD "300" on Knitting Factory has Horvitz, and some of it is similar to some of the more out moments of Pigpen. -- Dave Trenkel New and Improv Music http://www.newandimprov.com improv@peak.org Now Available: Minus: Dark Lit "This is music all-consuming in its beauty and power" -Jake TenPas OSU Daily Barometer - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: " A.VanValin" Subject: Re: Godflesh Date: 08 Sep 2001 11:22:47 -0700 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil H. Enet" Subject: Godflesh > Hello list, > > What are your recommendations for good, techno > influence grindcore (not that sh*t that's playing the radio right now). Have you checked out Atomsmasher w/ James Plotkin? happy hunting, van - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Vandelaar" Subject: Re: Miro's Constellations Date: 09 Sep 2001 09:25:43 +0930 > BOBBY PREVITE > THE 23 CONSTELLATIONS OF JOAN MIRO > TZA CD 7072 > Composer Series > If the Previte compositions around Miro's Constellations interest you, th= en it might be worth getting this book: Constellations of Mir=F3, Breton by Paul Hammond Art History/Literary Criticism/Surrealism 0-87286-372-7 City Lights http://www.citylights.com/pub/catalog/BCconstell.html which are French surrealist, Andre Breton's poetic improvisations on the constellations as well as an insightful intro by Paul Hammond. Cheers, Michael NP DJ Shadow - Brainfreeze NR Gustav Meyrink - The Golem - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "thomas chatterton" Subject: RE: John Coltrane - The Olatunji Concert Date: 09 Sep 2001 15:08:27 +0000 >From: "Steve Smith" >There seems to be some debate as to whether the 'Love Supreme' outtakes >with >Shepp and Art Davis actually exist, or were preserved. Sorry if this is old news (I'm currently out in the New Mexico desert and haven't had a chance to wade thru 300+ emails)but Alice stated in an interview she gave just before the 'Trane reissue program started that she had a number of tapes in her possession that included live concerts and that complete Love Supreme with Shepp... np: Bach Concertos Trevor Pinnock London Consort nr: W.G. Sebald The Rings Of Saturn (highly recommended!) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arthur Gadney" Subject: New derek Bailey duo Date: 09 Sep 2001 16:26:25 +0000 hello has anybody had a chance to listen to the new Derek Bailey/Shoji Hano duo CD? An interesting pair! thanks! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arthur Gadney" Subject: new Otomo Yoshihide large orchestra Date: 09 Sep 2001 16:31:00 +0000 Hello! Has anybody had a chance to listen to Otomo Yoshihide's new band Date Cource Pentagon Royal Garden?? A very interesting lineup: with Naruyoshi Kikuchi (VOX-organ, CD-J), Yoshihide Otomo (guitar), Koki Takai (guitar), Masaki Kurihara (bass), Masayasu Tsuboguchi (keyboards), Kenta Tsugami (sax, flute), Yoshihiro Goseki (tenor sax), Yasuhiro Yoshigaki (drums), Nobuo Fujii (drums), Masaki Yoshimi (tabla) and Gen Ogimi (percussion); I guess it's not sinewave minimalism anymore! In fact, given that there is tabla's invovled, this might be a totally new direction for Otomo..? Anybody has more information? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Ricardo=20Campillo?= Date: 10 Sep 2001 00:14:23 +0200 (CEST) Please,recommendations of Ikue Mori.Thanks. _______________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger: Comunicación instantánea gratis con tu gente - http://messenger.yahoo.es - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Smith" Subject: More classical Zorn in NYC this fall Date: 10 Sep 2001 00:29:38 -0400 Thursday, October 4, 7:30pm Saturday, October 6, 7:30pm Bach Arias for soprano and various instruments Zorn Chimera Book I (world premiere) Wuorinen Grand Union Messiaen Ile de feu No. 2 Friday, October 5, 7:30pm Sunday, October 7, 4:00pm Bach Arias for soprano and various instruments Zorn Chimera Book II (world premiere) Carter Enchanted Preludes (1988) Jennie Choi, violin Fred Sherry, cello Tara O'Connor, flute Michael Lowenstern, clarinet Stephen Gosling, keyboard Tom Kolor, percussion Julie Liston, soprano Bargemusic, Fulton Ferry Landing, Brooklyn, 718-624-2083, www.bargemusic.org Steve Smith Editor, Classical Music & Opera, Time Out New York 627 Broadway, 7th Floor New York, NY 10012 phone 212-358-2345 fax 212-253-1174 steves@timeoutny.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Smith" Subject: Oops (was RE: More classical Zorn in NYC this fall) Date: 10 Sep 2001 00:51:48 -0400 While I did, in fact, intend to send those Bargemusic listings with the Zorn premieres to the Zornlist, I did NOT intend to include my sig-file from work at the end. That was a silly mistake, not a case of showing off, alright? Steve Smith ssmith36@sprynet.com NP - something by Leo Kottke... CD case is across the room and I'm feeling lazy. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ricardo Reis Subject: Ganryu island (this one's for Patrice) Date: 10 Sep 2001 10:13:35 +0100 (WET DST) I've finally managed to get my hands on the book about the duel on Ganryu island. It's called "This is kendo, the japonese art of fencing" and was written by J. Sasamori e G. Warner. There it is stated that Ganryu Sasaki, a samurai from Hiroshima was defeated in a fencing match by Munisai Shimmen. He later murdered him because of this. Shimmen was the father of Musashi Miyamoto who went in pursuit of Sasaki and caught him in Ganyujima, in Kyushu, a few years later. A duel issued in the beach and Musashi killed Sasaki. If you [PatRice] could check this in your book on Musashi i would be most obliged. greets!, Ricardo Reis "Non Serviam" - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: patRice Subject: Re: Ganryu island (this one's for Patrice) Date: 10 Sep 2001 12:31:21 +0200 Hi Ricardo. I'll do my best. But please be patient, since I'm VERY busy at the moment and can't promise exactly when I'll have enough time again to look into this matter. patRice np: Larry Levan, Live At The Paradise Garage nr: Kobo Abe, The Box Man Ricardo Reis wrote: > > If you [PatRice] could check this in your book on Musashi i would > be most obliged. > > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Keffer Subject: New Derek Bailey cdrs Date: 10 Sep 2001 10:02:51 -0400 Just a posting for your information. Incus ( http://www.incusrecords.force9.co.uk/ ) is advertising for sale: two Derek Bailey cdrs available only directly from Incus. They are recordings featuring DB on voice and guitar! I for one am excited. detailed info (including track titles, times, and background information) from Euro Free Improv Pages ( http://www.shef.ac.uk/misc/rec/ps/efi/ehome.html ) Incus CD-R1 The Appleyard file Derek Bailey: guitar and voice Described in the Incus publicity as 'things you might like to know about Charlie Appleyard', this CD-R provides details about this legendary but little-known character who has been credited as the founder of improvisation. http://www.shef.ac.uk/misc/rec/ps/efi/labels/incus/incapple.html Incus CD-R2 Chats Derek Bailey: guitar and voice http://www.shef.ac.uk/misc/rec/ps/efi/labels/incus/incchats.html David K. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David Beardsley" Subject: the return of the electric tuba and he's bringing spectral voices... Date: 10 Sep 2001 14:06:14 -0400 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00EC_01C13A01.C0C50440 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tuesday, September 11th, 2001 Tom Heasley: SOLO TUBA / Jim Cole: SPECTRAL VOICES Tom Heasley hails from the west coast bringing his solo tuba excursion = with=20 electronics. Spectral Voices is a vocal ambient group whose sound = originates=20 from human voices rather than instruments and electronics. 8pm $5 Galapagos=20 70 N 6th St., Brooklyn, NY 11211 718.782.5188 http://www.galapagosartspace.com/events.html http://www.kalvos.org/heasley.html http://bayimproviser.com/artistdetail.asp?artist_id=3D83 http://www.spectralvoices.com/ * David Beardsley * http://biink.com * http://mp3.com/davidbeardsley ------=_NextPart_000_00EC_01C13A01.C0C50440 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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------=_NextPart_000_00EC_01C13A01.C0C50440-- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mathieu Belanger Subject: Re: New Derek Bailey cdrs Date: 10 Sep 2001 23:29:14 -0400 Hello, >Incus ( http://www.incusrecords.force9.co.uk/ ) is advertising for sale: >two Derek Bailey cdrs available only directly from Incus. They are >recordings featuring DB on voice and guitar! I for one am excited. >(...) >Incus CD-R1 The Appleyard file >(..) > >Incus CD-R2 Chats >(...) Has anybody listened to these cdrs? As much as I like Bailey, 15$US for a cdr is kind of expensive... Thank you, Mathieu - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Herb Levy Subject: New Music in RealAudio Date: 10 Sep 2001 23:34:45 -0500 Hi y'all, This week on Mappings , you'll hear music by John Butcher, Jerome Cooper, Phillip Corner, Vinko Globokar, Vinnie Golia, Yoko Hiraoka, Robin Holcomb, Greg Kelley, Mike Marlin, Jeffrey Morgan, John Morton, Sainkho Namchylak, Pauline Oliveros, Matt Turner, Nikos Veliotis, Tony Wren, Jack Wright. The show went online Monday evening around 10:00 PM (-0700 GMT) and will remain online at the above URL for a week. Last week's program, featuring music by John Cage is still available in the Mappings archive , where you can also find play lists for the program since it began in March 1998. Hope you tune in to the program. Bests, Herb - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Keffer Subject: Re: New Derek Bailey cdrs Date: 11 Sep 2001 06:31:28 -0400 Well, I have only heard one track from Incus CD-R2 Chats, which was called "In My Studio" but has been rereleased as "Henry". This piece was originally released on Aerial #5, 1992. I think you can still get it from Cadence. As far as I can tell, it is the only previously released piece. Anyway, in the vein of Bailey speaking and playing pieces, this is a good one. In it, Bailey sardonically reads from an interview with Henry Kaiser discussing some techniques of recording in the "advanced electronic" studio. David K. p.s. On a related note, Zorn is credited as being on Incus CD-R2 Chats. (Patrice, you will have to add it to the discography.) At 11:29 PM 9/10/01 -0400, you wrote: >Hello, > >>Incus ( http://www.incusrecords.force9.co.uk/ ) is advertising for sale: >>two Derek Bailey cdrs available only directly from Incus. They are >>recordings featuring DB on voice and guitar! I for one am excited. >>(...) >>Incus CD-R1 The Appleyard file >>(..) >> >>Incus CD-R2 Chats >>(...) > >Has anybody listened to these cdrs? As much as I like Bailey, 15$US for a cdr >is kind of expensive... > >Thank you, > >Mathieu > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "patbor" Subject: Clearing Date: 11 Sep 2001 07:14:27 -0400 Can anyone who listened to "Clearing" by Fred Frith give me his point of view on the record? thanks Patb. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "patbor" Subject: Polish talent Date: 11 Sep 2001 07:22:04 -0400 I'm trying to gather information on the great piano talent LESZEK MOZDZER, ex: his discografy Thanks, Patbor - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Samerivertwice@aol.com Subject: Roy Campbell Date: 11 Sep 2001 07:51:33 EDT Does anyone know where I can find Roy Campbell tour dates? Thanks, Tom - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marcin Gokieli" Subject: Odp: Polish talent Date: 11 Sep 2001 14:20:32 +0200 I'l let you know in near future. For now, i can recommend you his discs with the band Milosc, incl twlo with Lester Bowie. He also has a quite nice solo sextet cd, and a good cd of duets with Pieronczyk, sax. Marcin Gokieli marcin.gokieli@mospan.pl marcingokieli@go2.pl Generally speaking, if a philosopher offers to 'dissolve' the problem you are working on, tell him to go climb a tree - Jerry Fodor ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 1:22 PM > I'm trying to gather information on > the great piano talent LESZEK MOZDZER, > ex: his discografy > > Thanks, Patbor > > - > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Sean Westergaard" Subject: RE: Date: 11 Sep 2001 08:36:46 -0400 i really love Painted Desert on Avant. Ikue Mori- drum machines, Robert quine & marc Ribot on guitars. mostly laid-back Morricone vibe. I read somewhere (this list?) that it was supposed to be Quine's date, but came out under Mori's name for some reason. beautiful stuff -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-zorn-list@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Ricardo Campillo Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2001 6:14 PM Please,recommendations of Ikue Mori.Thanks. _______________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger: Comunicación instantánea gratis con tu gente - http://messenger.yahoo.es - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Efr=E9n_del_Valle?= Subject: RE: Clearing Date: 11 Sep 2001 14:41:51 +0200 > Can anyone who listened to "Clearing" by Fred Frith > give me his point of view on the record? > > thanks > > Patb. Hi Pat, "clearing" is one of Frith's best recordings I've listened to (I own about 15). Someone mentioned here the sound quality as superb but a bit close to ECM, which seems to me exaggerated. however, It's a relatively quiet improv album. There are subtle melodies (i.e: open ocean, the bow moon), extended techniques (i.e: chains) and noisy passages (the earth is a flower) but Frith's unmistikable style keeps everything pretty homogeneous and dynamic at the same time. The acoustic/electric combination and the overdubbing help make this recording really entertaining. It's really hard for me to describe such a personal record so go and buy it!!. I'm sure you'll love it. Best, Efrén del Valle n.p: Ikue Mori "Labyrinth" (Tzadik) > > > - _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Theo Klaase Subject: clearing... Frith... Date: 11 Sep 2001 06:28:40 -0700 (PDT) --0-1650752885-1000214920=:49963 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii This is a great CD... Intresting, unique, ambitious, everything we look for in a release by Frith... I personally found the album profound... Although I don't listen to it too regularly... -Theo www.theodorusrecords.com Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger. --0-1650752885-1000214920=:49963 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii      This is a great CD... Intresting, unique, ambitious, everything we look for in a release by Frith... I personally found the album profound... Although I don't listen to it too regularly...

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Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger. --0-1650752885-1000214920=:49963-- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeroen de Boer Subject: for all of you in nyc Date: 11 Sep 2001 18:39:31 +0200 My sincerest condolences for the terrible thing that happened this morning. My thoughts are with you. Keep your heads up!! Jeroen - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rob Allaert Subject: NYC Date: 11 Sep 2001 20:12:20 +0200 Sincere condolences for the people in NYC from the Belgian members of the List. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pequet@altern.org (Benjamin Pequet) Subject: Re: NYC Date: 11 Sep 2001 14:49:55 -0400 Now perhaps more nationalism is not exactly what is needed - as things seem to be more or less unanimously described as an "attack on freedom and democracy" on this end, as racist statements start to florish, under Republican administration where racism is tolerated to begin with, and the US are taking this as an act of war and will most likely strike back the offenders as one country. But thank you for the tought. Peace. At 20:12 11/09/01 +0200, Rob wrote: >Sincere condolences for the people in NYC from the Belgian members of the >List. > >- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Efr=E9n_del_Valle?= Subject: Support to New Yorkers Date: 11 Sep 2001 21:01:10 +0200 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C13B04.E29973E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi everyone, I (and surely all the rest) hope that no one here, any relatives or = friends have been affected by the terrible facts that took place this = morning in NYC and Washington. All my support to everyone. Let's hope that this inhuman acts will never = repeat again. (Unfortunately in Spain we know a lot about large-scale = terrorism). Also, let's hope that this horrible situation is solved in a responsible = way. All the best, Efr=E9n del Valle ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C13B04.E29973E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C13B04.E29973E0-- _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: William Crump Subject: Re: NYC Date: 11 Sep 2001 12:09:01 -0700 Benjamin Pequet wrote: > as racist statements start to florish, This is unfortunate, if true. Could you cite some examples of "racist statements" to back this up? > US are taking this as an act of war This is appropriate, isn't it? Is there another way we should take it? > Peace. > Amen. William Crump - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pequet@altern.org (Benjamin Pequet) Subject: Re: NYC Date: 11 Sep 2001 15:31:19 -0400 At 12:09 11/09/01 -0700, William Crump wrote: >Benjamin Pequet wrote: > > as racist statements start to florish, > >This is unfortunate, if true. Could you cite some examples of "racist >statements" to back this up? No I won't. I don't feel it's necessary. This list has remained remarkably immune to bullshit and let's keep it that way. Thanks. Benjamin - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Patrice L. Roussel" Subject: Re: Date: 11 Sep 2001 12:24:52 -0700 On Tue, 11 Sep 2001 08:36:46 -0400 "Sean Westergaard" wrote: > > i really love Painted Desert on Avant. Ikue Mori- drum machines, Robert > quine & marc Ribot on guitars. mostly laid-back Morricone vibe. I read > somewhere (this list?) that it was supposed to be Quine's date, but came out > under Mori's name for some reason. beautiful stuff What I remember from an interview of Ikue Mori (in REVUE & CORRIGEE) is that she lost more or less the control of the recording session, and as a result, the record is more of a Quine/Ribot project than a Mori one. Patrice. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matthew Ross Davis Subject: Re: Date: 11 Sep 2001 15:01:12 -0500 It's not a particularly Mori-sounding album. My favorites are from the Japanese composer's series, particularly Hex Kitchen and Mystery / Death Praxis. On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 12:24:52PM -0700, Patrice L. Roussel wrote: > > On Tue, 11 Sep 2001 08:36:46 -0400 "Sean Westergaard" wrote: > > > > i really love Painted Desert on Avant. Ikue Mori- drum machines, Robert > > quine & marc Ribot on guitars. mostly laid-back Morricone vibe. I read > > somewhere (this list?) that it was supposed to be Quine's date, but came out > > under Mori's name for some reason. beautiful stuff > > What I remember from an interview of Ikue Mori (in REVUE & CORRIGEE) is that > she lost more or less the control of the recording session, and as a result, > the record is more of a Quine/Ribot project than a Mori one. > > Patrice. > > - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Caleb T. Deupree" Subject: bayle erosphere question Date: 11 Sep 2001 17:42:41 -0400 Please forgive the crosspost, but if anyone has the CD version of Francois Bayle's Erosphere, could you please contact me privately? I'm trying to reconcile the track listings of the vinyl version (which has eight divisions of La fin du bruit) and the CD version (which has 12, according to the empreintes digitales web site). I'd like to know the names, and perhaps the timings, of the track listings. If there's a web site that has this info, please let me know, but since the CD is out of print, there's not much out there. Thanks. Trying to distract myself from today's events by engaging in some meaningless busywork. -- Caleb Deupree cdeupree@erinet.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lang Thompson Subject: NYC Zornlisters OK? Date: 11 Sep 2001 18:45:38 -0400 How are you people doing? - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JonAbbey2@aol.com Subject: Re: NYC Zornlisters OK? Date: 11 Sep 2001 18:53:48 EDT In a message dated 9/11/01 6:46:55 PM, wlt4@mindspring.com writes: << How are you people doing? >> I'm fine, although I was in the WTC yesterday, as I am (or was) at least a few times a week. you can (or could) see the WTC from my street across the river in Jersey City, so when I woke up this morning to see that the planes had hit the towers, I tried to walk as close to the river as I could. on the way, the first tower collapsed, and walking back after the police turned me back, a collective gasp went up on the street as the second one went down. I think I'm still a little in shock, but I'm fine, and Erstwhile HQ remains intact. Jon www.erstwhilerecords.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Ricardo=20Campillo?= Subject: videos Zorn Date: 12 Sep 2001 01:46:28 +0200 (CEST) I want to find videorecordings of John Zorn. Bye Zornies. _______________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger: Comunicación instantánea gratis con tu gente - http://messenger.yahoo.es - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Smith" Subject: RE: NYC Zornlisters OK? Date: 11 Sep 2001 21:05:29 -0400 I was just at the towers last week, on my way to the ferry to the beach at Sandy Hook, NJ. I was awakened by my sister who called from Florida, and switched on the TV. I saw the second plane strike, and the first tower fall. I left the room for five minutes and when I came back, there were no towers left. My girlfriend and I went to give blood, and were turned away because there was too much activity. They took our phone number. Maybe tomorrow. So we walked down to the river and sat on a rock, and looked at a vast plume of smoke where those towers used to be. Anyone who's ever been here knows that you could see them from everywhere in town. Hell, we could see them from the beach at Sandy Hook. Just last week. We live in a Queens neighborhood full of mosques. Our Bangladeshi neighbors and I are all looking at each other with real sympathy. In general, Muslims in New York have been warned not to wear their religious garb for the next few days. This afternoon we saw a car full of rowdy white boys waving a flag out of their car, blowing their horn as they drove down the street in a small convoy, and we feared that things could get ugly real easily. Part of me thinks I'll wake up tomorrow morning and they'll still be there. Even as a non-native New Yorker, the thought that they won't be there makes me feel so cold. Thanks for all the concern, everyone. Let's pray that tomorrow we don't all wake up to Gulf War II. Steve Smith ssmith36@sprynet.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stinkipipi@aol.com Subject: Re: RE: NYC Zornlisters OK? Date: 11 Sep 2001 21:52:20 EDT >We live in a Queens neighborhood full of mosques. Our Bangladeshi neighbors >and I are all looking at each other with real sympathy. In general, Muslims >in New York have been warned not to wear their religious garb for the next >few days. This afternoon we saw a car full of rowdy white boys waving a flag >out of their car, blowing their horn as they drove down the street in a >small convoy, and we feared that things could get ugly real easily. this is what scares the hell out of me....lets just hope americans can understand that this is not the whole of the muslim religion >Part of me thinks I'll wake up tomorrow morning and they'll still be there. >Even as a non-native New Yorker, the thought that they won't be there makes >me feel so cold. i have to say that when i was working as a temp in new york until the brginning of this year (financial based work), i requested not to work at the towers because i always feared they tried them once, it was only a matter of time before they hit them again. every morning, and everytime now that my girlfriend and i go in to visit friends, i always loved looking at the skyline of nyc, and the towers usually stood out above all else. it will be eerie to look at the pictures of the new york skyline that are everywhere and see the towers, and not be able to see them when you are actually there... >Thanks for all the concern, everyone. Let's pray that tomorrow we don't all >wake up to Gulf War II. i second that. may everyone's peoples be anywhere but at ground zero... dave - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Olewnick Subject: Re: NYC Zornlisters OK? Date: 11 Sep 2001 21:56:43 -0400 Lang Thompson wrote: > > How are you people doing? I was in the WTC about an hour before the first explosion. Good timing. Right now, Im looking out my window from Jersey City and seeing a very large plume of smoke where the towers used to be. Brian Olewnick - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Taylor McLaren Subject: re: NYC Zornlisters OK? Date: 12 Sep 2001 02:37:21 -0400 MEEP! Stinkipipi@aol.com wrote: >this is what scares the hell out of me....lets just hope americans can >understand that this is not the whole of the muslim religion That's what disgusted me so much about the constant recycling of the footage of the little party that somebody thought to film in Arab East Jerusalem... the first time it was described to me this afternoon, it was with the words "they're all jumping up and down and dancing over there". Between that and a media-described (Canadian) expert on the American intelligence and military communities saying that he didn't think that the American public would necessarily bother sharing proof of anybody's guilt or innocence with the rest of the world before stamping mudholes, I'm very, very frightened about how the next couple of weeks might turn out. Meanwhile, at least a couple of very brave New Yorkers took to the stage here in Toronto tonight and tried to keep everybody's spirits up in spite of what they must have been feeling all day long, so I want to give a big, public thumbs-up to the Def Jux crew just for showing up. Bush's lame speech aside, I hope that *this* is the sort of American spirit that we can look forward to in the near future. -me - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PaanKu@aol.com Subject: Re: NYC Zornlisters OK? Date: 12 Sep 2001 03:36:17 EDT The twin towers are gone. They're just gone. I can't tell you what that does to me. I've lived in this city all my life. I've driven past them a thousand times. I can see them from my Bronx rooftop. When I used to take amtrak home from my college in Boston I used to look out for them all lit up with the empire and the chrysler and that big building that looks like a pencil. It gave me chills every time. I've been watching the story since 9 am. It's 3 15 am, it didn't hit me until now. There was a van full of bombs driving across the George Washignton Bridge. There could be a bomb in every car. My school could blow up next week while im in class. I just saw the footage of one guy rolling out of a window backwards from 100 stories up and bouncing off the side of the building like a crash test dummy. A guy fell out of a goddamned window. I've never felt so safe anywhere as I do in this city. I love the subways, I love the dirty gridded streets, my whole life depends on them. Now I can't trust the subways. All I wanted was to go to school today and I couldn't even do that. The subways were shut down. It's school and I couldn't even get there. And the twin towers. They're not even there anymore. Some jackass throws a rock over a hill in the middle east and now this untouchable thing, this permanent thing that's been there forever, that's been a part of everything I've known about New York since birth, just up and fell down while I was watching. With people inside and firefighters and a guy falling out the window. I don't know how I feel. I know that I was tired all day and now my neck is so stiff I can't turn my head more than 20 degrees in any direction. I cried a few times and couldn't say why. I don't want to know where the nearest bomb shelter is. I don't want to learn the duck and cover method. I don't want my gung-ho idiot friends to enlist and go get killed in a desert somewhere. I want to sleep when I'm tired and go to school when I have to. I want my comfort back and I want my fucking skyline. ~fish - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: stephen.fruitman@idehist.umu.se (Stephen Fruitman) Subject: The Tragedy Date: 12 Sep 2001 09:36:14 +0200 (MET DST) Deepest condolences from Sweden to all the American members of the lists. Sweden too is shocked, outraged and shares your grief. I=B4m dedicating this morning=B4s teaching to the incident. Stephen Fruitman Dept of Historical Studies Ume=E5 University SE-901 87 Ume=E5 Sweden - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: patRice Subject: Re: NYC Date: 12 Sep 2001 10:10:23 +0200 Hi y'all. I don't know what everyone else thinks, but wouldn't it be best if we kept this sort of discussion off the list? There are so many different people on the list, so many people from different cultural backgrounds - and I can unfortunately see this kind of thread go very nasty. My suggestion for those listmembers who want to discuss the issue: start a yahoogroup. patRice William Crump wrote: > Benjamin Pequet wrote: > > > as racist statements start to florish, > > This is unfortunate, if true. Could you cite some examples of "racist > statements" to back this up? > > > US are taking this as an act of war > > This is appropriate, isn't it? Is there another way we should take it? > > > Peace. > > > > Amen. > William Crump > > - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JonAbbey2@aol.com Subject: Re: NYC Zornlisters OK? Date: 12 Sep 2001 04:17:33 EDT In a message dated 9/12/01 3:49:52 AM, PaanKu@aol.com writes: << There was a van full of bombs driving across the George Washignton Bridge. >> FWIW, this was a false rumor according to CNN, at least the last I heard. Jon www.erstwhilerecords.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pm.carey@utoronto.ca (PMC) Subject: re: Def Jux/NYC Zornlisters OK? Date: 12 Sep 2001 04:23:36 +0100 * Taylor McLaren >Meanwhile, at least a couple of very brave New Yorkers took to the stage >here in Toronto tonight and tried to keep everybody's spirits up in spite >of what they must have been feeling all day long, so I want to give a big, >public thumbs-up to the Def Jux crew just for showing up. Bush's lame >speech aside, I hope that *this* is the sort of American spirit that we >can look forward to in the near future. Yeah, I'll second that! I wondered if they would make it, but since they were already in Canada last night (Montr=E9al), it wasn't a problem. Great show, IMO, esp. Cann Ox. Very glad they stayed positive. Too bad Aesop was sick though ... -P - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ricardo Reis Subject: Re: NYC Zornlisters OK? Date: 12 Sep 2001 10:58:21 +0100 (WET DST) Can utter a word except relief knowing all of you are alive. (only hit me this morning: "fuck, maybe there were guys i know in there. fuck, fuck, fuck.) going to hear A love supreme, Ricardo Reis "Non Serviam" - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marcin Gokieli" Subject: Odp: Odp: Polish talent Date: 12 Sep 2001 12:20:34 +0200 ----- Original Message ----- > Thanks Marcin. perhaps, do you knows any > title of Milosc's recordings? Their first album was called Taniec Smoka (the dance of the dragon), the live with Bowie was titled 'not two'. I'll check out the others. Milosc plays now without Mozdzer, with leader Tymanski on guitar instead of bass, and with Olo walicki on bass. Their drummer, Jacek Olter , is dead (suicide). - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marcin Gokieli" Subject: Odp: NYC Zornlisters OK? Date: 12 Sep 2001 12:32:09 +0200 It may be a silly question, but is there any way we (the europeans) can help? Marcin Gokieli marcin.gokieli@mospan.pl marcingokieli@go2.pl Generally speaking, if a philosopher offers to 'dissolve' the problem you are working on, tell him to go climb a tree - Jerry Fodor ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 3:05 AM > I was just at the towers last week, on my way to the ferry to the beach at > Sandy Hook, NJ. > > I was awakened by my sister who called from Florida, and switched on the TV. > I saw the second plane strike, and the first tower fall. I left the room for > five minutes and when I came back, there were no towers left. > > My girlfriend and I went to give blood, and were turned away because there > was too much activity. They took our phone number. Maybe tomorrow. So we > walked down to the river and sat on a rock, and looked at a vast plume of > smoke where those towers used to be. Anyone who's ever been here knows that > you could see them from everywhere in town. Hell, we could see them from the > beach at Sandy Hook. Just last week. > > We live in a Queens neighborhood full of mosques. Our Bangladeshi neighbors > and I are all looking at each other with real sympathy. In general, Muslims > in New York have been warned not to wear their religious garb for the next > few days. This afternoon we saw a car full of rowdy white boys waving a flag > out of their car, blowing their horn as they drove down the street in a > small convoy, and we feared that things could get ugly real easily. > > Part of me thinks I'll wake up tomorrow morning and they'll still be there. > Even as a non-native New Yorker, the thought that they won't be there makes > me feel so cold. > > Thanks for all the concern, everyone. Let's pray that tomorrow we don't all > wake up to Gulf War II. > > Steve Smith > ssmith36@sprynet.com > > > - > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stephen Drury Subject: Re: Zornlisters OK? Date: 12 Sep 2001 07:28:01 -0400 Hi all - just wanted to pass along that I've been in touch with Erik Friedlander and Jenny Choi in NYC; they're OK and they've spoken to Zorn on the phone. All quite shaken but OK. --steve - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Michael=20Gillham?= Subject: Fwd: [coil] From Alt.prophecies.nostrodamus Date: 12 Sep 2001 14:36:38 +0100 (BST) --0-1625322048-1000301798=:36784 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline Note: forwarded message attached. ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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I can't tell you how shocked everyone was here in Argentina, it was a sad day. Many of us here have friends who had recently moved to New York because of the economic crisis, and we were the whole day waiting to hear from them. I fear is that this type of attack will be more common from now on, it has been going on for year in the rest of the world but this attack marks the begining of a new era, a new type of war. Welcome to the 21 st century. GABRIEL - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "emmanuel.dechenaux.1" Subject: reading Date: 12 Sep 2001 10:24:49 -0500 (EST) It's too late for the summer reading list, but if you still have time to turn a page or two this Fall, I suggest Barry Yourgrau's "Haunted travelers." It's a lot more real than surreal, I came to find out! The stories are really short (4 to 5 pages on average) and they go straight to the point, with awesome descritpions and a lot of poetry. This is really, really good. My apology if Yourgrau is unbelievable famous and you've all read everything he wrote. I'm a newcomer. "So mystifying..." Emmanuel - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Verstraeten Stefan" Subject: Re: Zorn List Digest V3 #564 Date: 12 Sep 2001 17:57:49 +0200 Glad to know that "the belgians on the List" have an official spokesman....... I did not know. Best wishes, Stefan Verstraeten Stefan.Verstraeten@belgacom.net ----- Original Message ----- > From: Rob Allaert > Subject: NYC > > Sincere condolences for the people in NYC from the Belgian members of the > List. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Perfect Sound Forever Subject: Re: NYC Zornlisters OK? Date: 12 Sep 2001 11:53:32 -0400 At Wed, 12 Sep 2001 03:36:17 EDT, Fish wrote: >I don't know how I feel. I know that I was tired all day and now my neck >is so stiff I can't turn my head more than 20 degrees in any direction. I >cried a few times and couldn't say why. I don't want to know where the >nearest bomb shelter is. I don't want to learn the duck and cover >method. I don't want my gung-ho idiot friends to enlist and go get killed >in a desert somewhere. I want to sleep when I'm tired and go to school >when I have to. I want my comfort back and I want my fucking skyline. I feel the same way. I saw the whole thing except the first crash from my job downtown. The only thing you could do is just watch in total disbelief and horror at the whole thing. Not surprisingly, a lot of the commentators on the tube kept comparing everything to some sci-fi movie because there's no reference in our lives here to really comprehend all of this otherwise. I wound up taking several co-workers to my place for the day until all the transit was working again. When I walked them back to the subways later, we saw Army personnel with machine guns directing traffic. Thinking back, the only other time I'd seen such a thing was in Jerusalem and Pretoria. Thanks for good wishes from all outside of NYC- I hope you have to experience anything like this where you are. Best, Jason Perfect Sound Forever online music magazine perfect-sound@furious.com http://www.furious.com/perfect - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Sh *" Subject: World Trade Week Date: 12 Sep 2001 12:26:52 -0400 Greetings. I know things are hectic in NYC presently, though I am curious to know if John Zorn is going to be playing anytime soon. Call me selfish, though I just have to hear what comes out of that horn after all that has happened since yesterday. Were there any gigs slated, or perhaps any new ones that have popped up? And, what else is going on that would be worth checkin' out? Thanks in advance. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tosh Subject: Re: NYC Zornlisters OK? Date: 12 Sep 2001 09:29:17 -0700 I totally agree with this letter. The next couple of weeks are crucial. I hope everyone on this list are sound and safe. -- Tosh Berman TamTam Books http://www.tamtambooks.com > That's what disgusted me so much about the constant recycling of the > footage of the little party that somebody thought to film in Arab East > Jerusalem... the first time it was described to me this afternoon, it was > with the words "they're all jumping up and down and dancing over there". > Between that and a media-described (Canadian) expert on the American > intelligence and military communities saying that he didn't think that the > American public would necessarily bother sharing proof of anybody's guilt > or innocence with the rest of the world before stamping mudholes, I'm very, > very frightened about how the next couple of weeks might turn out. > Meanwhile, at least a couple of very brave New Yorkers took to the stage > here in Toronto tonight and tried to keep everybody's spirits up in spite > of what they must have been feeling all day long, so I want to give a big, > public thumbs-up to the Def Jux crew just for showing up. Bush's lame > speech aside, I hope that *this* is the sort of American spirit that we can > look forward to in the near future. > > -me > > > > - > > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Smith" Subject: RE: World Trade Week Date: 12 Sep 2001 14:45:12 -0400 You can't be serious. Steve Smith ssmith36@sprynet.com -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-zorn-list@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Sh * Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 12:27 PM Greetings. I know things are hectic in NYC presently, though I am curious to know if John Zorn is going to be playing anytime soon. Call me selfish, though I just have to hear what comes out of that horn after all that has happened since yesterday. Were there any gigs slated, or perhaps any new ones that have popped up? And, what else is going on that would be worth checkin' out? Thanks in advance. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Sh *" Subject: Re: World Trade Week Date: 12 Sep 2001 15:12:39 -0400 I'm not going to delve into this, for I'm not at all attempting to start a debate. Music just means different things to different people. But if I were an improvising musician living in NYC yesterday, I would feel overwhelmed with thought/feeling after the events that transpired, as many of us have who don't even live in the city. And what would I want to do most? I would want to play my horn. We all know that music can be a very deep thing, so why not allow art to play a cathartic part? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nirav Soni" Subject: Re: NYC Zornlisters OK? Date: 12 Sep 2001 15:51:27 -0400 > How are you people doing? This cloud of smoke over here around Union Square (in fact, throughout lower Manhattan from what I understand) is getting me down. It's kind of strange; I just moved to NYC about 3 weeks ago, and when I finally get used to the noise, it goes *quiet*. I'm thinking of heading to my aunt's house in New Jersey soon, does anyone know how hard it is to get in and out of Manhattan? Or which subways/trains/buses are going? take care, Nirav -- AIM: Icefactory37 OnNow- soon to be Kiarostami's "Close Up" "One can not be at the same time all eye and all ear. "- Robert Bresson - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Smith" Subject: RE: World Trade Week Date: 12 Sep 2001 15:46:48 -0400 I don't debate your point at all regarding music and expression. Earlier this morning I told a non-New York musician friend who cancelled a gig yesterday - because he couldn't see the point of playing "Giant Steps" last night - that I hoped he would be back to play "Alabama" tomorrow, because we need the arts to remind us that the human spirit is real, lasting and indomitable. He responded that "What's Going On?" would be his show-opener for a while. No, it was a certain tone of nonchalance I *inferred* from your post that gave rise to my reaction. I have no doubt that it was unintended. But such a tone is a luxury we can't quite countenance just yet in this city with a big fucking hole in it (though I personally won't presume to speak for other New Yorkers and New Jerseyites on this list). The reality strikes home when you look today and see nothing but a wispy, submissive little white cloud wafting from the ruins. To address your point more directly, however, the entire city south of 14th Street is closed for business today - cars and buses aren't allowed down there, and subways aren't stopping. That includes Tonic (where Dave Douglas's Witness was to have played tonight), the Knit, and virtually any other place where such events might have been held. If I seem to be on a short fuse, I apologize. Steve Smith ssmith36@sprynet.com (who's been cranking Morbid Angel and Emperor on the headphones to affect catharsis today...) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JonAbbey2@aol.com Subject: Re: NYC Zornlisters OK? Date: 12 Sep 2001 16:02:56 EDT In a message dated 9/12/01 3:52:30 PM, nirav@ink19.com writes: << I'm thinking of heading to my aunt's house in New Jersey soon, does anyone know how hard it is to get in and out of Manhattan? Or which subways/trains/buses are going? >> you could take the PATH from 33rd and 6th to Newark, and go from there. no traffic is going in and out of the tunnels, at least the last I heard. Jon www.erstwhilerecords.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Acousticlv@aol.com Subject: nyc/o'rourke/thurston/european help? Date: 12 Sep 2001 18:24:01 EDT It may be a silly question, but is there any way we (the europeans) can help? Marcin Gokieli >> dear marcin, not at all a stupid question; a very loving one. i believe the emotional support that you and all my musician friends and colleagues worldwide have sent have kept me going. just the fact that you asked is a major help. ive sent many a long letter, too long and personal for this list, but the short version: i'm ok physically but not emotionally. i have friends missing. personally, i worked hard with my highschool students and our crisis center; many students had parents working in the towers and we could see the sky filled with black smoke all day; many had heard the sound of the planes hitting the w,t.c. my brother works quite close and my 5yr old niece saw the tv and kept screaming 'daddy is dead!' but he is mostly fine. boston violinist jonathan lamaster (of sublingual records) sends word from thurston moore that "Jim O'Rourke was sleeping in our studio, 3 blocks from the Twin Towers, and ran through a flurry of of dust in pitch blackness also to our apartment (I imagine our studio is pretty much wasted)." me, i never felt fear, but i do feel anger, and disgust, and resentment that ive already heard people who shd know better with dangerous racist/nationalist stuff. we decided to escort our arabic students directly home rather than have them take the public busses. anyone wanting more, contact me offlist. with love steve koenig - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kris tiner Subject: Re: Zorn List Digest V3 #565 Date: 12 Sep 2001 17:04:00 -0700 (PDT) >But if I >were an improvising musician living in NYC yesterday, I >would feel >overwhelmed with thought/feeling after the events that >transpired, as many >of us have who don't even live in the city. And what would >I want to do >most? I would want to play my horn. We all know that >music can be a very >deep thing, so why not allow art to play a cathartic part? Indeed, for many of us that might be the only thing we CAN do. Just started school this week here at California Institute of the Arts, and yesterday was a very dark day on campus. Of course many people here have connections with people in NYC, many professors cancelled class; about the only thing we (students) have been able to do (when not watching the news footage) is play. Did a noon concert/jam session today in the middle of campus for folks walking by, and just by people's reactions it's obvious that during times like this the importance of the arts is realized (needed) so deeply by people. When it's too hard to go on with the day as usual and too emotionally unbearable to continually focus on the tragedy, the arts experience seems to uplift people to a feeling of unity and shared humanity, a celebration of life in the face of such a profound loss of life. I hope that doesn't sound cold; I believe that thoughts of both art and death cause us to direct our attention to the value and beauty of life, which is, the most important thing that we ALL share. My deepest sympathies to the NYC'ers on this list...don't know you personally, but I read your comments often and the posts of yesterday and today have been very moving. We are all thinking of you. peace, Kris ===== kris tiner http://www.kristiner.com "It suddenly came to him to wonder Why the sky was up above there; and also, Whether, if he could stand on top of it, The sky might not wonder the same thing about him." -Kenneth Patchen __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DKuper9200@aol.com Subject: Re: NYC Zornlisters OK? Date: 12 Sep 2001 21:08:08 EDT I've been very edgy. From my office window, I saw the second plane hit the WTC, then I saw the collapses. Those are images that will be etched on my mind for the rest of my life. I just hope that all of our lives can get back to some semblance of normalcy soon, i.e., regular TV and radio programs, concerts, shows, sports events, and doing the things we normally do day in and day out. It seems that everything has come to a screeching halt for now. It's scary! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric Ong Subject: Re: NYC Zornlisters OK? Date: 12 Sep 2001 21:22:31 -0400 Just wanna chime in here real quickly and say how glad I am the NYC zornlisters are doing ok. I was out much of this afternoon hauling supplies to the triage centers at Chelsea Piers, where the Red Cross is asking people to bring their donations. If you're in the area, and have the time, you should definitely join in. Personally, I lost my cousin Joe to the incident. He worked for Dell and his office was in the WTC. Again, glad to hear Jon, Brian (really good timing), etc are all alive. Eric Ong - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matthew W Wirzbicki (S)" Subject: RE: Zorn List Digest V3 #565 Date: 12 Sep 2001 21:31:50 -0600 >if i were an improvising musician living in NYC yesterday, I would feel >overwhelmed with thought/feeling after the events that transpired, as many >of us have who don't even live in the city. FWIW - Dorner/Kelly/Neumann/Rainey did play here on tuesday night. Matt - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JonAbbey2@aol.com Subject: Re: Zorn List Digest V3 #565 Date: 13 Sep 2001 00:10:41 EDT In a message dated 9/12/01 11:32:58 PM, M_WIRZBICKI@ColoradoCollege.edu writes: << FWIW - Dorner/Kelly/Neumann/Rainey did play here on tuesday night. >> so, how was it? Jon www.erstwhilerecords.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JonAbbey2@aol.com Subject: more terrible news Date: 13 Sep 2001 00:50:45 EDT forwarded from the chi-improv list... as if the tragedies in new york, d.c. and pennsylvania weren't enough, another tragedy for music and the world in general. hrvatski, in an email update, wrote the following: "as if the tragedy of the world trade center, pentagon, and pennsylvania crashes weren't enough, i got word that gary todd of the cortical foundation is in a coma after falling from his balcony early sunday morning. he's in very serious condition." please include gary in your prayers and thoughts. we all have a lot of people to pray for and meditate on. Jon www.erstwhilerecords.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arthur Gadney" Subject: Arab-Americans fear backlash Date: 13 Sep 2001 12:26:51 +0000 Hello All! I'm absolutely terrified by the reports of Arabs and muslims being attacked in America. Being a muslim does not in any way make them responsible!! Even the most anti-American muslim countries have spoken agains the terror explosions, and we'd better well keep up the positve contact. It's not difficult to imagine how they might react to hearing about this. Right now, as far as I can tell, we are facing a couple of 1000s fanatic terrorists, but should we start to treat all Muslims as enemies, they will surely start acting like it, which could turn more than one billion people world wide into "the enemy". Not a smart thing! Please do whatever you can to spread the info that we cannot let this happen!! More info: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/americas/newsid_1540000/1540371.stm The former Afghanistan embassador in Germany said the we must in no way treat ther Afghanistan people as the enemy. They are themselves the first victims of the fundamentalist islamic Taleban Government. Think about it! Peace!! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Perfect Sound Forever Subject: Tragedy and music Date: 13 Sep 2001 08:34:44 -0400 People on this list were wondering about the connection between the Tuesday bombings and music. Thought you might be interested in these items, which come from Jennifer Warner's Dance Music update: Where There Is Music The World is watching and listening as the aftermath from the attack on America unfolds. Music can bridge our cultures and help bring healing. From World Music Guide Paula. http://worldmusic.about.com/library/blterror.htm Tragedy, Jazz, and the American Identity The horrible events of September 11, 2001 will become part of the American psyche, but they will not alter our basic way of life. Just as jazz, America's artform has done, we will incorporate our feelings about the tragedy into our very identities. From Jazz Guide Marshall. http://classicjazz.about.com/library/weekly/aa091201a.htm Hip Hop Generation, ready to fight? The hip-hop generation routinely hears lyrics about violence and street war, but nothing prepared us for the massive terrorist attacks. If the government drafted you today, would you be ready to put petty differences aside and fight? From Rap/Hip Hop Guide Ife. http://www.rap.about.com/library/weekly/aa091101a.htm Best, Jason Perfect Sound Forever online music magazine perfect-sound@furious.com http://www.furious.com/perfect - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dwayne Subject: Milford Graves on ESP-DISK/Guelph Jazz Fest Date: 13 Sep 2001 09:47:35 -0400 Hey all, I just picked up another half dozen of the Calibre/ESP-DISK's and my copy of Milford Graves' Percussion Ensemble turned out to be one of the Psych-Rock discs they issued, the GODZ maybe. Has anyone else had this problem?? Just curious becuase I have a replacement on the way and am hoping it doesn't have the same problem. The others I grabbed were Pharoah Sanders, Paul Bley Trio, Guiseppi Logan-More, Albert Ayler-Bells & Spritual Unity. So far all are fantastic and I would highly reccomend any of them to any one interested. On a side note, I attended pretty well everything at the Guelph Jazz Festival this year. Whoa, what a festival anyone else in attendance this year? Some of the highlights were a set by Glenn Hall/Ray Anderson/Lee Renaldo/Gerry Hemingway as well as sets by Hemingway/Hamid Drake, Lou Grassi/Marshall Allen, Joe McPhee's Bluette and a workshop led by John Heward including members of Bluette. Already I am itching to see next years line-up. Perhaps I'll make the trek to Victoriaville nest May. I am looking forward to seeing Georg Graewe again this weekend in Toronto. His quartet with Frank Gratkowksi, Kent Kessler and Hamid Drake will be returning to Canada for an afternoon show on this coming Sunday. If you can make it out there it should be pretty good, they played a great set last weekend in Guelph. I talked with Georg briefly and he gave me the ok to record it so I am expecting more of the same this weekend. ttfn, Dwayne - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RadioGong@aol.com Subject: Zorn gigography? Date: 13 Sep 2001 13:03:29 EDT Is there a Zorn gigography on the web? I'm trying to confirm that he played the Knitting Factory on 10/22/97 and 10/27/97. Thanx. -Pete - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Smith" Subject: RE: Zorn gigography? Date: 13 Sep 2001 13:12:35 -0400 I don't know of any such "gigography," but Bruce Gallanter at Downtown Music Gallery would certainly know. He's at 99% of Zorn's local gigs. You probably shouldn't expect a quick answer, however, as his store is in the area of New York that's still closed down. www.DTMGallery.com Steve Smith ssmith36@sprynet.com NP - Emperor, "The Loss and Curse of Reverence," 'Anthems to the Welkin at Dusk' (Century) -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-zorn-list@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of RadioGong@aol.com Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 1:03 PM Is there a Zorn gigography on the web? I'm trying to confirm that he played the Knitting Factory on 10/22/97 and 10/27/97. Thanx. -Pete - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David Beardsley" Subject: Re: Zorn gigography? Date: 13 Sep 2001 13:44:21 -0400 ----- Original Message ----- > I don't know of any such "gigography," but Bruce Gallanter at Downtown Music > Gallery would certainly know. He's at 99% of Zorn's local gigs. You > probably shouldn't expect a quick answer, however, as his store is in the > area of New York that's still closed down. Today (Thursday) is his day off anyway. He should be in on Friday. * David Beardsley * http://biink.com * http://mp3.com/davidbeardsley - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Craig Matsumoto Subject: Time for John Cage Date: 13 Sep 2001 17:39:17 -0700 (PDT) A little bit of levity: http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/arts/highlights/010911_cage.shtml "The worlds longest performance of a piece of music is being played in Germany, and it will go on playing for another 639 years. "John Cage's composition ASLSP, or to give it it's full title As Slow As Possible, is part of what organisers have described as a revolution in slowness. "But can this really be taken seriously or is it simply a publicity stunt? Arts In Action reports...." (Mark your calendars for that halftime break in 2319...) - Craig M. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Craig Rath Subject: Re: Time for John Cage Date: 13 Sep 2001 20:45:33 -0500 At 05:39 PM 9/13/01 -0700, you wrote: >"The worlds longest performance of a piece of music is being played in >Germany, and it will go on playing for another 639 years. As a side note that may not be wholly relevant, here in Minnesota there is going to be a performance that will not last years, but will at least span 25 hours of continuous playing. In Duluth on 9/21/2001 (I believe at 9PM) at the NorShor Theatre there will begin a concert called a "collective improvisational drone" called Elegy 25. It is dedicated to Michael Lenz, who was murdered in Boston in March of 2001. Local bands as well as musicians from around the country will be joining in to create a eulogy of sorts to him. Anyone who wants to participate may join in, and anyone who wants to witness it may do so. The ticket price is $5 for the whole 25 hour production. From what I've heard, many local MN bands including Duluth's Low will be there as well as Detroit area's Windy & Carl, and Aarktica and many more to come. I am in no way connected to the concert, but I thought I would pass it along. I think in light of the recent happenings in NY, the whole affair will take on even more emotion than was originally intended. For those that cannot attend, they will be doing a Web Simulcast of the entire 25 hour show. Check www.elegy25.com for more details. Just thought I'd pass this along in case anyone is interested. I for one am trying to figure out how I can either take part, or at the very least experience some part of it. My thoughts go out to those of you in NY and those of you who have been affected in any way by these recent tragedies. I am still in a state of shock and denial. It's hard to imagine the sort of mind that could consider this an act of "retribution". To me, all it represents is an incredibly immature and twisted view of the world. There is no justification for what happened, no matter what your personal political or religious view may be. Despite my relative isolation here in the great midwest, I offer any help I can to anyone affected by these events. This is something no one should ever have to face. Craig M. Rath H: fripp@mn.mediaone.net W: rathc@questarweb.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "john rust" Subject: NY (no Zorn content) Date: 14 Sep 2001 11:25:23 +0200 For the first time in the 50 years of her life, the dream came true - my mother got a chance to visit her countless friends and relatives in the States. She left 10 days ago and on Tuesday morning she was heading from Memphis to New York. She can't speak English, she hasn't slept for three nights and as far as I know she's sitting in the New Arc Airport waiting for the flight to California. My family here is terrified, especially my Jewish grandmother, who just can't believe it's happening - among others to her own daughter and our relatives, who were considered to live in the most secure place on the face of Earth. It's so distant but so incredibly close. If there's any chance to help from here in Berlin the list-members down there in New York - don't hesitate to ask. I share your pain. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ch.A.Irman (Herr I)" Subject: word of solidarity... Date: 14 Sep 2001 12:48:59 +0200 I'm not the first... but to all who suffered, who witnessed , who is helping ... my thoughts are with YOU.. and there's really nothing I can say more now... Ch.A.Irman -- r e k l a m a Lista Plac [ http://listaplac.onet.pl ] - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matthew W Wirzbicki (S)" Subject: RE: Zorn List Digest V3 #565 Date: 14 Sep 2001 13:00:30 -0600 << FWIW - Dorner/Kelly/Neumann/Rainey did play here on tuesday night. >> >so, how was it? I thought it was very good. They traveled through many different textures often transitioning rather quickly but not awkwardly. They added an element to their music which I personally have not heard before and liked very much - Silence (of course relative). It was clear - to me at least - that the silence was simply a space at the end of a thought/section and not an ending. They would often depart rather radically from the previous texture once they did break the silence. Many of these silences were very abrupt. I was rather consumed by the music, especially for the second half of the performance. It's nice to have these kind of concerts in the area from time to time. It's rather different than a recording. Matt - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Perfect Sound Forever Subject: Knitting Factory Evacuated Date: 14 Sep 2001 17:28:40 -0400 Hi all, You've probably guessed this already re the recent tragedy but it's official now- see the Knit site at http://www.knittingfactory.com for details. Best, Jason Perfect Sound Forever online music magazine perfect-sound@furious.com http://www.furious.com/perfect - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JonAbbey2@aol.com Subject: Re: Knitting Factory Evacuated Date: 14 Sep 2001 17:58:04 EDT from the KF site: <> someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but they're still planning to open the stock market on Monday, which is much closer to ground zero than the Knit is. unless their building has structural damage, I'd guess they'd be able to open in the next few days. FWIW, I talked to Bruce Gallanter this afternoon. DMG is open and on a normal schedule, although most of their incoming shipments this week have been delayed. he plans to send out his weekly newsletter of new releases later today. Jon www.erstwhilerecords.com NP: CNN, and fighter planes overhead - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Acousticlv@aol.com Subject: re Arab-Americans fear backlash Date: 14 Sep 2001 23:24:36 EDT << From: "Arthur Gadney" dear arthur, thanks for putting this on the list. local (nyc) stories coming from my black students of white adults blocking them from buying stuff in local stored with arab staff or owners.. we had to personally drive our muslim students home tuesday, the day of the attack. i recently saw a documentary on the wonderful egyptian singer oh kalsoum, which led me to believe that she was more than just a patriot for her people, which sort of scares me. but ditto the very conservative and equally amazing celia cruz. love peace shalom salaam to everyone steve koenig - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Sh" Subject: Fw: Red Cross Benefit at the Tonic Date: 15 Sep 2001 00:51:00 -0400 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00A0_01C13D80.7D0B8620 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 7:19 PM Since music definitely makes people feel better, I came across this for all the NYC folks! I dont know if MMW is playing acoustic or not--But I guess it doesn't matter. Benefit For The Red Cross (and other emergency organizations) at Tonic Tues 9/18 - Martin, Medeski & Wood Wed 9/19 - Zorn's Masada Thur 9/20 - Dave Douglas Witness Fri 9/21 - Milford Graves Sat 9/22 - Bill Laswell __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ =20 =20 NetSpace LISTSERV(R) software donated by L-Soft, Inc. = http://www.lsoft.com ------=_NextPart_000_00A0_01C13D80.7D0B8620 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
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A bit delayed but, hopefully better late than never... my thoughts = are with=20 everyone on the list caught up in this weeks tragedy. One of the things = that has=20 surprised me is, even though I live in the North-east of England, how = many=20 people I know who have been directly affected - who have relatives or = friends=20 living in or visiting NYC. Some of us at least really do live in a = global=20 village.
 
the posts over the past few days have convinced me to stay on the = list. I=20 was thinking of unsubscribing simply because the volume of posts is = sometimes a=20 bit tedious. But the love and concern shown by people - presumably=20 often for people we know only through these exchanges - and the = sheer=20 humanity displayed by those people mostly directly affected - in marked = contrast=20 to the talk of war from some prominent world leaders - including our own = Prime=20 Minister Tony Blair which surely threatens to plunge at least the Middle = East -=20 if not the rest of us - into further chaos and despair has shown me the = value of=20 being part of this on-line community.
 
I've found the words of Nick Lowe as sung by Elvis Costello, = summing up my=20 thoughts:
 
"As I walk through
this wicked world
searching for light in the darkness of insanity
I ask myself
is all hope lost
is there only pain, hatred & misery
and each time I fell like this inside
there's one thing I want to know
what's so funny about peace, love & understanding?"
 
Thank you for that peace, love and understanding.
 
Iain Kitt
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Packard Hall, the Colorado College, Colorado Springs >Did you perhaps see >anyone taping the show? there was a recording made by the college on CD which the performers will recieve copies of and the performers recorded to mini disc (I believe). I'm sure it is at their discression whether they will make such a recording available to the public. Matt - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lang Thompson Subject: new lee perry Date: 15 Sep 2001 19:46:16 -0400 I saw three or four new Lee Perry reissues in the bins today; can't remember the titles but I think they were distributed by BMG (!). Any opinions or info about these? And what about the "Lost Treasures" box? Perry has a daunting discography and of the dozen or so albums I've heard some has been wonderful and some dull as well. Lang Adventures In Sound http://wlt4.home.mindspring.com/adventures.htm Outsider Music Mailing List http://wlt4.home.mindspring.com/outsider.htm Documentary Sound http://wlt4.home.mindspring.com/adventures/documentary.htm Full Alert Film Review http://wlt4.home.mindspring.com/fafr.htm - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Skip Heller Subject: cathartic music in light of the tragedy of 9/11 Date: 16 Sep 2001 20:44:00 -0700 I've thought about how to make some for days and have come to the following conclusions: 1. You can't write a chord ugly enough nor a rhythm jarring enough to describe the event itself. 2. There is no musical phrase so tender as to be able to say anything of lasting comfort to those who lost love ones. 3. The people who particpated in the attack apparently have no conscience, so attempting to provoke thought about what this damage means to humanity would be futile. 4. Trying to create anything beautiful or even meaningful in the wake of the event would be like trying to make beef stew out of rotten meat. No matter how you cook it, it's just poison. And, like rotten meat, it just leaves its disease all over anything it touches. with hope for us all, skip h NP: the impressions greatest hits (curtis mayfield makes sense more than anything else to me right now) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JonAbbey2@aol.com Subject: Re: cathartic music in light of the tragedy of 9/11 Date: 16 Sep 2001 00:15:12 EDT In a message dated 9/15/01 11:43:08 PM, velaires@earthlink.net writes: << (curtis mayfield makes sense more than anything else to me right now) >> I've been listening to a lot of Curtis Mayfield myself lately. anyone out there an expert on his post-Impressions solo catalog? is there a serious falloff after Curtis, Roots, Curtis Live, and Superfly? I've been hesitant to explore later material. also, as long as we're in this general area, are there any other Isaac Hayes records on the same level as Hot Buttered Soul? in the last few days, I've mostly been listening to a lot of solo guitar: Sugimoto, Mazzacane, Fahey, Akiyama, as well as AMM, Morton Feldman, and dach. Jon www.erstwhilerecords.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JonAbbey2@aol.com Subject: Re: cathartic music in light of the tragedy of 9/11 Date: 16 Sep 2001 00:25:19 EDT In a message dated 9/16/01 12:16:33 AM, JonAbbey2@aol.com writes: << in the last few days, I've mostly been listening to a lot of solo guitar: Sugimoto, Mazzacane, Fahey, Akiyama, as well as AMM, Morton Feldman, and dach. >> sorry to follow up my own post, but I also wanted to mention Linton Kwesi Johnson, a remarkable artist whose work I've also been finding very appropriate over the last few days. Jon www.erstwhilerecords.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bill Ashline" Subject: NYC Zornlisters & Kim Duk-soo's "Spirit of Nature" Project Date: 16 Sep 2001 04:47:51 +0000 I wanted to send my condolences to the NYC and DC Zornlisters as well. A terrible atrocity and a completely self-defeating one for the surviving actors. Here in Seoul, Korea yesterday, the sirens normally reserved for monthly training against possible North Korean attack, were used to commemorate the victims in the states. My hope, and it's not a confident one, is that America's leaders act wisely rather simply aggressively--that they ponder carefully the terrorism and its motivations. No doubt, the terrorists did as well, and US aggression toward the Arab world may be exactly what they want. Oversaturated with media coverage, with mourning, sadness, and fear, I went to see Kim Duk-soo's project over here in Seoul. He and his Samulnori troupe are planning to "globalize" traditional Korean culture by opening cultural centres in New York, Paris, Los Angeles, and Berlin in the next several years. The project, called "Nanjang Cultures," refers to a Korean expression which means a "scene of tumult." How ironic, in light of this weeks events. Last evening's performance was inspired to say the least and included the music and themes of traditional Korean shamanistic rituals as well as pansori, pan-nori (dance and music), and a nine-piece ensemble that included kayagam performers, kojok, changgu, ching, piri, and kwaenggari players. The first set culminated with absolutely brilliantly precise rendition of "Samdo Nongak Karak," a well-known number in the Samulnori repertoir, that was completely trance-inducing. I suspect this group will travel at some point. If you have a chance, drop everything and go. More info soon in English at http://www.nanjangcultures.com I include the signature quotes below. Though long, they are rather pertinent in these "unusual" times. I've been assembling a number of articles from the alternative presses in the last week that are articulating something other than the received views of CNN. If interested, drop me an email and I'll forward them along. Regards, Bill Ashline ----------- "The disaster ruins everything, all the while leaving everything intact. It does not touch anyone in particular; "I" am not threatened by it, but spared, left aside. It is in this way that I am threatened; it is in this way that the disaster threatens in me that which is exterior to me--an other than I who passively become other. There is no reaching the disaster. Out of reach is he whom it threatens, whether from afar or close up, it is impossible to say: the infiniteness of the threat has in some way broken every limit. We are on the edge of disaster without being able to situate it in the future: it is rather always already past, and yet we are on the edge or under the threat, all formulations which would imply the future--that which is yet to come--if the disaster were not that which does not come, that which has put a stop to every arrival. To think the disaster(if this is possible, and it is not possible inasmuch as we suspect that the disaster is thought) is to have no longer any future in which to think it.--Maurice Blanchot, "The Writing of the Disaster" "The safe Sphere in which Americans live is experienced as under threat from the Outside of terrorist attackers who are ruthlessly self-sacrificing AND cowards, cunningly intelligent AND primitive barbarians. Whenever we encounter such a purely evil Outside, we should gather the courage to endorse the Hegelian lesson: in this pure Outside, we should recognize the distilled version of our own essence. For the last five centuries, the (relative) prosperity and peace of the "civilized" West was bought by the export of ruthless violence and destruction into the "barbarian" Outside: the long story from the conquest of America to the slaughter in Congo. Cruel and indifferent as it may sound, we should also, now more than ever, bear in mind that the actual effect of these bombings is much more symbolic than real. The US just got the taste of what goes on around the world on a daily basis, from Sarajevo to Grozny, from Rwanda and Congo to Sierra Leone."--Slavoj Zizek _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Skip Heller Subject: Re: cathartic music in light of the tragedy of 9/11 Date: 16 Sep 2001 21:53:04 -0700 > > In a message dated 9/15/01 11:43:08 PM, velaires@earthlink.net writes: > > << (curtis mayfield makes sense more than > anything else to me right now) >> > > I've been listening to a lot of Curtis Mayfield myself lately. anyone out > there an expert on his post-Impressions solo catalog? is there a serious > falloff after Curtis, Roots, Curtis Live, and Superfly? I've been hesitant to > explore later material. > > also, as long as we're in this general area, are there any other Isaac Hayes > records on the same level as Hot Buttered Soul? > > in the last few days, I've mostly been listening to a lot of solo guitar: > Sugimoto, Mazzacane, Fahey, Akiyama, as well as AMM, Morton Feldman, and dach. > > Jon > www.erstwhilerecords.com > > - > There's good stuff peppered throughout the Curtis catalog, but no one album as good as that first handful. The SHORT EYES soundtrack is the exception. That's just fantastic. NEW WORLD ORDER had some terrific moments, even if it was flawed in many ways. Most people never get around to those last couple of Impressions albums in which Curtis participated, espec THE YOUNG MODS FORGOTTEN STORY. There's some incredible stuff there. HOT BUTTERED SOUL is definitely the best Issac album, but SHAFT and BLACK MOSES ain't far behind at all. For solo guitar, you may wanna check out some of Merle Travis' best stuff, most notably "Blue Smoke" and any Blind Blake stuff. I am pretty sure Fahey checked those things out, and, for me, they've always been straight-up. Fahey has always been a little too brainy for my personal taste (for whatever that's worth), but his taste is exquisite, and this is the kind of stuff that's up his roots alley. Personally, I've never much enjoyed solo guitar (and I am a guitar player), but there are some guys who I find irresistable -- Travis, Blake (both Blind and Norman), Doc Watson, Elliot Fisk, and almost nobody else. One evening, I saw Gatemouth Brown play a solo accoustic show, which he'd never done before. He even had to rent an accoustic guitar. But he played a version of -- get this -- "Unchained melody" that was absolutely mind-bending. He played the beginning as a chord-melody rubato thing, then went into this hammer-on rhythm business that was not unlike the way Luka Bloom played on his first album. It was absolutely magic. as ever -- skip h - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JonAbbey2@aol.com Subject: Re: cathartic music in light of the tragedy of 9/11 Date: 16 Sep 2001 01:05:10 EDT thanks for the feedback, Skip. unfortunately, it doesn't look like Short Eyes is available on CD, except paired with Superfly, which I hardly need to buy another version of. << Most people never get around to those last couple of Impressions albums in which Curtis participated, espec THE YOUNG MODS FORGOTTEN STORY. There's some incredible stuff there. >> actually, the only Impressions I have is a twofer of this and This Is My Country, which I've never gotten too into. I tried again on my recent Curtis kick, and it still didn't really grab me. maybe someday... Jon www.erstwhilerecords.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Skip Heller Subject: Re: cathartic music in light of the tragedy of 9/11 Date: 16 Sep 2001 22:39:54 -0700 > thanks for the feedback, Skip. unfortunately, it doesn't look like Short Eyes > is available on CD, except paired with Superfly, which I hardly need to buy > another version of. > > << Most people never get around to those last couple of Impressions albums in > which Curtis participated, espec THE YOUNG MODS FORGOTTEN STORY. There's > some incredible stuff there. >> > > actually, the only Impressions I have is a twofer of this and This Is My > Country, which I've never gotten too into. I tried again on my recent Curtis > kick, and it still didn't really grab me. maybe someday... > > Jon > www.erstwhilerecords.com > > - > Go right to "The Girl I Find" or "Wherever She Leadeth Me". I discovered those as singles, which led me to the album. "Choice Of Colors" is pretty great, too. sh - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "josephneff" Subject: RE: cathartic music in light of the tragedy of 9/11 Date: 16 Sep 2001 03:52:04 -0400 Hello, ....it's funny that Skip mentioned Blind Blake, who I heard for the first time a few weeks ago, a Yazoo collection of his stuff, quite excellent. Of course, I'm a total sucker for blues stuff, especially acoustic. For my money, an unnervingly great two disc set is Columbia's Blind Willie Johnson collection. Like Harry Smith's "Anthology", and the Charley Patton 2 LP on Yazoo, this is to me some of the most important and downright listenable music of the folk/blues/hill variety. ...so what other solo (or not) guitarists do listers hold in high regard? I remain, Joseph NP: Lungfish "Rainbows From Atoms" CD NR: Herman Melville "Pierre, or the Ambiguities" John Barth "The Friday Book" - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Skip Heller Subject: Re: cathartic music in light of the tragedy of 9/11 Date: 17 Sep 2001 01:17:29 -0700 > Hello, > ....it's funny that Skip mentioned Blind Blake, who I heard for the > first time a few weeks ago, a Yazoo collection of his stuff, quite > excellent. Of course, I'm a total sucker for blues stuff, especially > acoustic. For my money, an unnervingly great two disc set is Columbia's > Blind Willie Johnson collection. Like Harry Smith's "Anthology", and the > Charley Patton 2 LP on Yazoo, this is to me some of the most important and > downright listenable music of the folk/blues/hill variety. > > ...so what other solo (or not) guitarists do listers hold in high > regard? > > I remain, > > Joseph > > NP: Lungfish "Rainbows From Atoms" CD > NR: Herman Melville "Pierre, or the Ambiguities" > John Barth "The Friday Book" > > > - > I mentioned Blind Blake etc more as a guitar fetishist's thing. Blind Willie Johnson could hum more menace in one tune than anybody else has been able to bring to their entire catalog. You down with Rev Gary Davis' PURE RELIGION? That's about as good as it gets. He ain't funny. skip h - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "\"*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-." Subject: "for every Zizek, there is a pipek" Date: 16 Sep 2001 11:21:02 +0200 >The US just got the taste of what goes on >around the world on a daily basis, from Sarajevo to Grozny, from Rwanda and >Congo to Sierra Leone."--Slavoj Zizek It seems that this quote, as well as the paper it's excerpted from, has become quite the popular explanation of the events of Sept.11. It's been posted on at least five lists that I know of, and I imagine it's being forwarded to dozens more. I really respected the guy before I read this; now I think he's just a schmoe, and an overly academic one at that (e.g. let's start with his analysis of "the Matrix", which appears earlier in the paper cited, and how it relates to last week's terrorism). In order to better consider his conclusion, I would gladly be willing to consider a serious, realistic, sober-minded case-by-case analysis which compares the events in NY and DC of last week to Sarajevo, Grozny, Rwanda, Congo and Sierra Leone without resorting to either Hegelian/Lacanian obfuscation or just plain sloppy reductionism. (Or better yet, let's throw oodles of money at the guy and fly him to us to he can explain it in person! and then somebody can endow a chair so we can hear more of this crap.) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Caleb T. Deupree" Subject: RE: cathartic music in light of the tragedy of 9/11 Date: 16 Sep 2001 11:19:10 -0400 At 03:52 AM 9/16/01 -0400, josephneff wrote: > > ...so what other solo (or not) guitarists do listers hold in high >regard? Skip James, Bukka White, and Son House all made some interesting music in the same period as Patton. They also lived a lot longer and made somewhat less interesting music in the 60s, when Fahey and other collectors located them and made new records. -- Caleb Deupree cdeupree@erinet.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Keffer Subject: Is Evan Parker's "Monoceros" 1999 cd reissue already oop? Date: 16 Sep 2001 11:38:21 -0400 I am searching for a cd and thought folks on the Zorn-list might be able to help. (You have in the past.) Looking for Evan Parker's "Monoceros". I know that there was a 1999 cd reissue on Chronoscope, but the usual sources (Cadence, Forced Exposure, et al.) don't list it. Is it possible that the reissue has already gone out of print? Is it available somewhere? Thanks. David K. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JonAbbey2@aol.com Subject: Re: cathartic music in light of the tragedy of 9/11 Date: 16 Sep 2001 11:42:08 EDT In a message dated 9/16/01 11:22:07 AM, cdeupree@erinet.com writes: << Skip James, Bukka White, and Son House all made some interesting music in the same period as Patton. They also lived a lot longer and made somewhat less interesting music in the 60s, when Fahey and other collectors located them and made new records. >> while this seems to be the conventional wisdom, and may be true as a general statement, the two Skip James Vanguard discs from the early sixties, Today! and Devil Got My Woman, are among my favorite blues records of all time. Jon www.erstwhilerecords.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Keffer Subject: Diskaholics Anonymous Trio Date: 16 Sep 2001 12:01:45 -0400 It seems that a band called "Diskaholics Anonymous Trio" is slated to open for Fushitsusha next month (in Tokyo). This band includes Thurston Moore, Jim O'Rourke, and Mats Gustafsson. Is this a band that has been touring around or is it a new thing? Anybody got info? (That O'Rourke/Gustafsson cd on incus last year was perty good, as was the earlier "parrot fish eye" on Okka.) On a peripherally related note: for an upcoming performance, Ruins have joined Keiji Haino to form a band called "Knead". Although, they have played together before it was always as Ruins and Haino. Maybe the establishment of a band name indicates an official release is in the works...? I don't know. (For more info see the "Live Dates" at http://www.planetc.com/users/keffer/haino/index.html . ) David K. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JonAbbey2@aol.com Subject: Re: Is Evan Parker's "Monoceros" 1999 cd reissue already oop? Date: 16 Sep 2001 12:24:48 EDT In a message dated 9/16/01 11:36:32 AM, keffer@planetc.com writes: << Looking for Evan Parker's "Monoceros". I know that there was a 1999 cd reissue on Chronoscope, but the usual sources (Cadence, Forced Exposure, et al.) don't list it. Is it possible that the reissue has already gone out of print? Is it available somewhere? >> try e-mailing Trevor Manwaring at tmanwaring@harmoniamundi.com, he runs Chronoscope. great CD, BTW. Jon www.erstwhilerecords.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Perfect Sound Forever Subject: Fw: Red Cross Benefit at the Tonic Date: 16 Sep 2001 12:22:56 -0400 Hi all, Will definitely be at some of the Tonic shows. Needless to say, the eagerly anticipated Music Actuelle festival planned for the Tonic next week is now cancelled. A shame since it would have been the first U.S. performance for many of the musicians involved. I really hope that this can be rescheduled here for some time in the future. See http://www.quebecnewyork.com/en/index.asp To answer Jon's question about the Stock Market being open on Monday but maybe not the Knit, the City has been making special provisions to open up a corridor around Wall Street so that trading can resume on Monday. Seems that the Knit and other clubs in the area aren't as much of a priority. Most people here have probably seen this info but just in case... Here are two worthy places that you can make donations to help with the WTC disaster: American Red Cross Disaster Relief: http://www.redcross.org/donate/donate.html New York State World Trade Center Relief Fund: http://www.nyswtcrelieffund.vista.com/ (see http://www.state.ny.us/ for more details) Best, Jason Perfect Sound Forever online music magazine perfect-sound@furious.com http://www.furious.com/perfect - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JonAbbey2@aol.com Subject: Re: Diskaholics Anonymous Trio Date: 16 Sep 2001 12:31:17 EDT In a message dated 9/16/01 11:58:37 AM, keffer@planetc.com writes: << It seems that a band called "Diskaholics Anonymous Trio" is slated to open for Fushitsusha next month (in Tokyo). This band includes Thurston Moore, Jim O'Rourke, and Mats Gustafsson. Is this a band that has been touring around or is it a new thing? Anybody got info? >> Gustafsson sat in on the encore when Sonic Youth played the Hammerstein Ballroom last year, and O'Rourke did a really nice trio show with Mats and Ikue Mori just before that at Tonic. I know all three did some shows together in Sweden last year, and they have a trio CD out, I believe on Crazy Wisdom, which hasn't made it to the US yet. Jon www.erstwhilerecords.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kurt Gottschalk" Subject: Re: Knitting Factory evacuated Date: 16 Sep 2001 16:37:17 +0000 jon said: someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but they're still planning to open the stock market on Monday, which is much closer to ground zero than the Knit is. unless their building has structural damage, I'd guess they'd be able to open in the next few days. i don't think *any* building are reopening until the army corps of engineers has declared them structurally sound. safe bet wall st. buildings were among the first to be checked. some residential bldgs have also been checked out. nightclubs i would expect will be among the last, and appropriately so. if the knit does have structural damage, of course, it'll be even longer, maybe never. tonic reopened friday, and plans to resume gigs tuesday, by the way, although the music actuelle fest is canceled. and, since i've not checked in, let me say it's been heartening to read the posts from around the world to us nyers. i'm alive and well, as are friends and loved ones, thankfully, but of course the loss to the city, its residents, the skyline, is enormous. i made it to ground zero, past the national guard blockades (lawfully, mind you) yesterday. words don't describe. i've been working about a dozen hours a day every day at the newspaper, so i've been tardy with my 'present and accounted for.' but i've been here in spirit (if different spirits). a friend of mine got a phone call the other day from someone in ontario, saying 'you don't know me but i know you live in new york because i dialed 212. i just wanted to let you know that everyone in canada is thinking about everyone in the states.' the pervasiveness of what happened on 9/11 is staggering, frightening, deeply human... kg np: bessie smith 'lady luck blues' _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ken Waxman Subject: Re: Is Evan Parker's "Monoceros" 1999 cd reissue already oop? Date: 16 Sep 2001 13:49:52 -0400 (EDT) David: Have you tried Verge in Uxbridge, Ont.: www.vergemusic.com Ken Waxman --- David Keffer wrote: > > I am searching for a cd and thought folks on the > Zorn-list might be able to > help. (You have in the past.) Looking for Evan > Parker's "Monoceros". I > know that there was a 1999 cd reissue on > Chronoscope, but the usual sources > (Cadence, Forced Exposure, et al.) don't list it. > Is it possible that the > reissue has already gone out of print? Is it > available somewhere? > > Thanks. > > David K. > > - > _______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alex Werner Subject: New Masada tracklist / Filmworks X / Ware's Sir Duke Date: 16 Sep 2001 16:40:28 +0000 Hi, Just found the new 'Masada live at Tonic' tracklist on Barnes & Noble: disc1 1. Karaim 2. Ner Tamid 3. Acharei Mot 4. Kisofim 5. Jachin 6. Malkhut 7. Nashim disc2 1. Lilin 2. Khebar 3. Hazoti 4. Malkhut 5. Shevet 6. Shamor 7. Acharei Mot 8. Kisofim 9. Shechem -- Where can i find some 30sec. samples and/or comments on Filmworks X and Ware/Ribot's "Sir Duke"? Thanks, Alex Werner - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "josephneff" Subject: RE: Gary Davis & Skip James & Son House Date: 16 Sep 2001 18:58:27 -0400 Hello, ...in response to Skip Heller's question, yes I'm down with Rev. Gary. The "1935-1949" LP on Yazoo is just drenched in emotion and great guitar playing.What's a good compact disc collection of his stuff? ...I have little experience with Skip James except for the few times I've heard "I'm So Glad" on public radio. Fahey absolutely detested the guy from what I've read. Are the Vanguard twofers out on CD? ...I'll defend the Son House two CD "Roots 'N' Blues" set. Since I haven't heard his pre-war stuff, I can't compare, but on the 1965 sessions which make up the 2CD, House's National Steel playing combines with his assertive vocals in a grand fashion. No, he doesn't have that "stop you dead in yr tracks" incendiary quality of Blind Willie Johnson, but IMHO his stuff sustains an admirable intensity throughout. Still, I need to hear his early work. ....funniest story I've heard about rediscovered blues artists concerns a blues guitarist whose name I forget who was found by some searching lads. They set up for him to record, but he showed up w/out his guitar. Instead, he wanted to sing and play his new instrument, a rack kazoo. Sadly, the budding folklorists didn't go for it. I remain, Joseph NP: Son House "Father of the Delta Blues: The Complete 1965 Sessions" Disc One NR: Herman Melville "Pierre, or the Ambiguities" John Barth "The Friday Book" - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Skip Heller Subject: Re: Gary Davis & Skip James & Son House Date: 17 Sep 2001 15:46:24 -0700 > Hello, > ...in response to Skip Heller's question, yes I'm down with Rev. > Gary. The "1935-1949" LP on Yazoo is just drenched in emotion and great > guitar playing.What's a good compact disc collection of his stuff? > PURE RELIGION is the one. skip h > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kurt Gottschalk" Subject: the blues Date: 17 Sep 2001 00:12:17 +0000 with all the old accoustic blue talk going on, i gotta mention something i recently picked up while traveling through central illinois. don't know if the shop was completely insane -- i haven't gone to the net to price check -- but i picked up a fine 40-cd box for $65. it's a german import called 'nothing but the blues' with 1 or 2 discs each by muddy waters, bessie smith, sonny boy williamson (i), big bill broonzy, leadbelly, lightnin hopkins, big boy crudup, robert johnson, brownie mcghee, mississippi john hurt, bukka white, blind willie mctell, sleepy john estes, ma rainey, memphis minnie, blind boy fuller, sonny terry, john lee hooker (my main man), big joe williams, jimmy yancey, joe turner, blind john davis, hot lips page, t.bone walker (skip's main man, if memory serves), and peter chatman. for the ones i know enough to talk about, they seem to be early and good recordings. most of the discs are over 40 minutes, some up around 60. and yes, i realize that none of these dead people got a cent of royalties. the info is "nothing but the blues" music alliance ag, gerliswilstrasse 44, ch-6021 emmenbrucke tel +49-40-6699160 fax +49-40-6699161 kg np: big bill broonzy "mississippi river blues" _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bill Ashline" Subject: Re: "for every Zizek, there is a pipek" Date: 17 Sep 2001 01:23:38 +0000 >From: "\"*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-." >Subject: "for every Zizek, there is a pipek" > >I really respected the guy before I read this; now I think he's just a >schmoe, and an overly academic one at that (e.g. let's start with his >analysis of "the Matrix", which appears earlier in the paper cited, and how >it relates to last week's terrorism). Perhaps the comments by many that the event suggested a scenario out of a bad action movie might be a place to start. That suggests the primacy of the cinema and the visual image, which is what Zizek is using as his starting point. > >In order to better consider his conclusion, I would gladly be willing to >consider a serious, realistic, sober-minded case-by-case analysis which >compares the events in NY and DC of last week to Sarajevo, Grozny, Rwanda, >Congo and Sierra Leone without resorting to either Hegelian/Lacanian >obfuscation or just plain sloppy reductionism. Hegel and Lacan are obfuscatory? And what do you mean by "realistic" and "sober-minded?" The piece was called "The Desert of the Real." So I wouldn't call it "unrealistic." The "desert" here is being associated with the aftermath of the disaster, when bent I-beams and concrete dust replace the building it was once a part of. The references to the other places are suggested to draw parallels to other "deserts of the real" that have been experienced by local people there in a quite virulent way. Zizek has as well apparently. He's a Slovenian with first hand experience of the Balkan war. > >(Or better yet, let's throw oodles of money at the guy and fly him to us to >he can explain it in person! and then somebody can endow a chair so we can >hear more of this crap.) Cheap shot. Taking the quotation out of context to vilify someone who had something intelligent to say about an awful event. Something that wasn't making it to CNN. You're writing as if Zizek thinks the people in the US "deserved" the attack. Hardly. What he's saying is not much different than what a lot of Americans have been saying--this is the first time to experience something that much of the rest of the world does on a daily basis. And that we need to widen the scope of our political and historical understanding to take that into account. That's what will create healing, not fetishizing people's pain in the manner of CNN and the other networks. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Julian" Subject: Re: New Masada tracklist / Filmworks X / Ware's Sir Duke Date: 17 Sep 2001 12:01:41 +1000 I wonder why some of the tunes are repeated? > disc1 > 1. Karaim > 2. Ner Tamid > 3. Acharei Mot > 4. Kisofim > 5. Jachin > 6. Malkhut > 7. Nashim > disc2 > 1. Lilin > 2. Khebar > 3. Hazoti > 4. Malkhut > 5. Shevet > 6. Shamor > 7. Acharei Mot > 8. Kisofim > 9. Shechem - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Stover Subject: RE: cathartic GUITARISTS in light of the tragedy of 9/11 Date: 16 Sep 2001 19:24:17 -0700 (PDT) Don't forget the old Tom Cora favorite Joseph Spence. He's been helping me out. -DJ Clem of 9/11 At 03:52 AM 9/16/01 -0400, josephneff wrote:> > ...so what other solo (or not) guitarists do listers hold in high >regard?Skip James, Bukka White, and Son House all made some interesting music inthe same period as Patton. They also lived a lot longer and made somewhat less interesting music in the 60s, when Fahey and other collectors located them and made new records. __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "thomas chatterton" Subject: RE: cathartic light in the tragedy of music Date: 17 Sep 2001 02:45:59 +0000 >From: "Caleb T. Deupree" > >At 03:52 AM 9/16/01 -0400, josephneff wrote: > > > > ...so what other solo (or not) guitarists do listers hold in high > >regard? > >Skip James, Bukka White, and Son House all made some interesting music... ...not forgetting Mississippi Fred McDowell... np: Albert King Thursday Night In S.F. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Acousticlv@aol.com Subject: cathartic music: KOENIG's CD-R RECIPE Date: 17 Sep 2001 01:31:27 EDT << cathartic music >> STEVE KOENIG'S 74 MIN. CD-R RECIPE FOR CATHARTIC SONGS DURING HARD TIMES. been playing it all week while in transit trying not to see newspapers. THEY ARE NOT ALL 'ISNT IT BEAUTIFUL' BUT MOSTLY 'WE WILL MAKE IT EVEN THOUGH STUFF HAPPENS' INTERESTINGLY,A GREAT DEAL ARE SHOWTUNES. I INCLUDE THE KINKS IN THAT CATEGORY. Daylight 3:19 Kinks Sitting In The Midday Sun 3:47 Kinks Supersonic Rocket Ship 3:32 Kinks Look A Little On The Sunny Side 2:51 Kinks It's A Fine Life 3:35 Oliver! Oom-Pah-Pah 3:18 Oliver! So What? 3:21 Cabaret It Couldn't Please Me More 3:17 Cabaret Sour and Sweet/Lemon In The Honey 6:03 Dr. Buzzard We Got It Made/ Night And Day 3:48 Dr. Buzzard I'm Free 3:59 Soup Dragons So Good 3:30 Joan Armatrading This Whole World 1:59 Beach Boys Feel Flows 4:47 Beach Boys 'Til I Die 2:29 Beach Boys Life Is 5:03 Zorba The First Time 4:14 Zorba Da Doo Ronn Ronn 2:17 Ian Matthews I Am Free/ Life Is 4:50 Zorba I Got Life 3:05 Hair Good Morning Starshine 2::32 Hair Hair 2::58 Hair - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Acousticlv@aol.com Subject: Ware/Ribot's "Sir Duke" Date: 17 Sep 2001 01:38:44 EDT << Ware/Ribot's "Sir Duke >> hi alex. i listened 2x. ware i usually enjoy much live when not a leader, but his discs.. snooze. here he is functional and pleasant and ribot is excellent. i love ribots solo disc on diw and look fwd to hid atlantic solo. steve koenig - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim Flannery Subject: Re: Gary Davis & Skip James & Son House Date: 16 Sep 2001 23:46:27 -0700 josephneff wrote: >=20 > Hello, > ...in response to Skip Heller's question, yes I'm down with Rev. > Gary. The "1935-1949" LP on Yazoo is just drenched in emotion and great > guitar playing.What's a good compact disc collection of his stuff? >=20 > ...I have little experience with Skip James except for the few = times > I've heard "I'm So Glad" on public radio. Fahey absolutely detested the= guy > from what I've read. Are the Vanguard twofers out on CD? Dunno, but you really, really want the 1930 sessions. My favorite moment in _Ghost World_ (the movie) was the scene with Enid c= oming back to Stanley's flea market stall, having fallen in love with "Devil Go= t My Woman" ... "Do you have any other records like that?" "There are no other records like that." --=20 - Jim Flannery newgrange@sfo.co= m "It isn't so much the horrible things that have happened; it is the degraded attitudes of the people after the happenings=20 that destroy all hope. They blink, and go on.=20 But it isn't the same selves that go on." -- R.A. Lafferty np: Syllk, _Ascendre =E0 l'Ombre du Vent_ - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: patRice Subject: Re: "for every Zizek, there is a pipek" Date: 17 Sep 2001 10:46:06 +0200 Hi y'all. I know, I know: I was the one who suggested to keep this discussion off the list, but since it is being discussed here, I'm afraid I can't just read and not make comments... Bill Ashline wrote: > basis. And that we need to widen the scope of our political and historical > understanding to take that into account. That's what will create healing, > not fetishizing people's pain in the manner of CNN and the other networks. I couldn't agree more. Watching CNN the past few days has just depressed me even more. It's scandalous how they're just, as you put it Bill, "fetishizig people's pain". I just hope that more and more people are beginning to realize that CNN and other TV stations are only playing with people's feelings and emotions, and that that is all they want. patRice np: Fantomas, The Director's Cut nr: Skin & Ink - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Skip Heller Subject: Re: "for every Zizek, there is a pipek" Date: 18 Sep 2001 08:21:26 -0700 CNN and other TV stations are only playing with people's feelings and emotions, and that that is all they want. > > patRice > Well, they're news stations and, unfortunately, that's how big mogul networks present news these days. Those who expected Edward R. Murrow are doomed to disappointment. Unless they've been watching Ashleigh Banfield on MSNBC. That woman has composure and dignity like Stevie Wonder has questionable wardrobe and hair. skip h - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom Gatzen Subject: this is too freaky Date: 17 Sep 2001 08:41:11 -0700 (PDT) http://www.nme.com/NME/External/News/News_Story/0,1004,42346,00.html __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tosh Subject: Re: "for every Zizek, there is a pipek" Date: 17 Sep 2001 08:43:13 -0700 With respect to the Television media, I am also struck by the insensitivity of various interviews with victims and their families by showing repeated showings of the attack. I would think it would be unbearable for someone in that situation having to watch their love ones die over and over again as background image for their 'interviews.' It's hypocritical for the interviewer to ask the subject to describe their pain - and then making it worst by showing the planes crashing into the towers. I wish the American network news stop fetishizing the pain and go into the cause of the attacks as well as analyzing the U.S. and the World's response to the horror incident. I get more thoughtful news via the Zorn list! > > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Theo Klaase Subject: Ribot - Saints Date: 17 Sep 2001 09:28:14 -0700 (PDT) --0-10167760-1000744094=:75654 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii You can hear clips of the new Ribot album at www.cheap-cds.com The album sounds a bit like his other solo album "Don't Blame Me.." It's certainly not as ambitious as Fred Frith's "Clearing" CD, and as a Ribot fan, I feel a bit disappointed... Perhaps he should leave the abstract stuff to Chadbourne or Bailey... They probably do it better, although the "Book of Heads" was an achievement of sorts... I was personally looking forward to an album filled with material like the song "Mochin" from Zorn's Bar Kokhba release... The album probably sounds much better on an actual stereo (not my computer) and perhaps listening to the entire songs will bring about a change in attitude... Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information inYahoo! News. --0-10167760-1000744094=:75654 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

    You can hear clips of the new Ribot album at www.cheap-cds.com   The album sounds a bit like his other solo album "Don't Blame Me.."  It's certainly not as ambitious as Fred Frith's "Clearing" CD, and as a Ribot fan, I feel a bit disappointed...  Perhaps he should leave the abstract stuff to Chadbourne or Bailey...  They probably do it better, although the "Book of Heads" was an achievement of sorts...   I was personally looking forward to an album filled with material like the song "Mochin" from Zorn's Bar Kokhba release...  The album probably sounds much better on an actual stereo (not my computer) and perhaps listening to the entire songs will bring about a change in attitude...

 


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Donate cash, emergency relief information in Yahoo! News. --0-10167760-1000744094=:75654-- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Patrice L. Roussel" Subject: Zorn hits number 300! Date: 17 Sep 2001 10:37:46 -0700 On Sun, 16 Sep 2001 16:40:28 +0000 Alex Werner wrote: > > Just found the new 'Masada live at Tonic' > tracklist on Barnes & Noble: This is entry 300 in the Zorn discography (which, like all the others, has been homeless for more than one year, but are still kept up to date). Patrice. PS: Lacy is lagging well behind with only 266. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Samuel Quentin" Subject: Japanese Death Metal, Black, Doom, etc Date: 17 Sep 2001 13:23:13 -0500
hey zorns,
 
  all i am interested in is Japanese Death Metal bands with dignity and good metal.  i just want good metal and i want the best fucking metal vocalists japan has.  i need to know from where i can purchase any of this stuff and i also need more japanese Black Metal and Doom Metal and any other GREAT metal bands.  please give me good stuff to listen to and seek.
 
   -Samuel
np: Angelcorpse- The Inexorable

"Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?"
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- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arthur Gadney" Subject: Guardian article (off topic, but...) Date: 17 Sep 2001 19:15:13 +0000 Hello. Somebody mentioned that there is better news coverage on the zornlist than in the American media, so I just thought that I should forward this very interesting article from The Guardian. It touches upon an absolutely essential subject, which it seems to me is fatally missing in the American media. And there alot more to it than just this article. http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,551036,00.html "What could some political thing have to do with blowing up office buildings during working hours?" one bewildered New Yorker asked yesterday." I am in NO WAY defending, supporting, agreeing with the terrorist attacks, but... Americans NEEDS to understand the "reasons" for it happening. I also think that the very strong feeling in American for REVENGE, is very dangerous. This could really escalate in very very serious ways if USA overreacts. Even though USA has made no official comments that they will attack Afghanistan or has proof that Osama Bin Laden is really behind this, shock waves are already going through the Islamic world. Things are looking mighty bad in Pakistan at the moment. If USA attacks Afghanistan or perhaps even makes a full scale invasion, they will put the whole in a very shaky and dangerous situation. At the very least, it would take very strong proof that Bin Laden and the Taleban are behind this. Lets hope that the American revenge feeling does not push hasty reactions! All the best, _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: wlt4@mindspring.com Subject: ed sanders reissues Date: 17 Sep 2001 17:24:10 -0400 Hi, I saw in ICE that two Ed Sanders solo albums were coming out on CD from Koch but can't find them listed in the four online dealers I checked. Anybody know if these actually appeared? - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Ricardo=20Campillo?= Subject: Aelita Date: 17 Sep 2001 23:57:20 +0200 (CEST) I have a French edition on video of the film Aelita . Someone knows if in the U.S. edition appears the music of Ribot? In the French edition the music is terrible. _______________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger: Comunicación instantánea gratis con tu gente - http://messenger.yahoo.es - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Timothy Graf" Subject: Re: New Masada tracklist / Filmworks X / Ware's Sir Duke Date: 17 Sep 2001 19:17:09 -0400 At least one song was played at all 4 of the shows, a couple more I remember hearing at least twice. With all the repeats, I'd be surprised if they played more than the 13 different tunes that appear on the new album. Tim > > Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 12:01:41 +1000 > From: "Julian" > Subject: Re: New Masada tracklist / Filmworks X / Ware's Sir Duke > > I wonder why some of the tunes are repeated? > > > disc1 > > 1. Karaim > > 2. Ner Tamid > > 3. Acharei Mot > > 4. Kisofim > > 5. Jachin > > 6. Malkhut > > 7. Nashim > > disc2 > > 1. Lilin > > 2. Khebar > > 3. Hazoti > > 4. Malkhut > > 5. Shevet > > 6. Shamor > > 7. Acharei Mot > > 8. Kisofim > > 9. Shechem > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Sh *" Subject: Anyone Feeling Generous. . .please? Date: 17 Sep 2001 19:35:59 -0400 Hello. I live in Virginia, and have been planning to catch Emergency tomorrow night, even before it was announced, since I just had a hunch that they would be playing. I will not be arriving to New York until tomorrow (Tuesday) until 'bout four or five. I will be leaving here around 11:00 in the morning. I called Tonic today, and they of course do not do telephone orders, so the next time I could purchase tickets through them would be at the box office at 7:30 tomorrow night. So, I called Other Music, who is also selling tickets, and was told that they are going fast and there probably will not be any left by the time I arrive in NYC tomorrow, and therefore the box office at Tonic will be sold out as well. Would anyone be kind enough to pick me up TWO tickets for the Emergency/MMW shows Tuesday night at Tonic? I could meet you in the city at anytime tomorrow after 5:00 to exchange my monies for them. I would really appreciate the help, as this is a highly anticipated show. I'll be home tonight by 8:00, and I would ask anyone that can help me out to call me at home so I'll know if I should make the trip. 540-869-5634. Call as late as you like. Thanks in advance. Hagen _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Sh *" Subject: Anyone Feeling Generous. . .please? Date: 17 Sep 2001 19:36:25 -0400 Hello. I live in Virginia, and have been planning to catch Emergency tomorrow night, even before it was announced, since I just had a hunch that they would be playing. I will not be arriving to New York until tomorrow (Tuesday) until 'bout four or five. I will be leaving here around 11:00 in the morning. I called Tonic today, and they of course do not do telephone orders, so the next time I could purchase tickets through them would be at the box office at 7:30 tomorrow night. So, I called Other Music, who is also selling tickets, and was told that they are going fast and there probably will not be any left by the time I arrive in NYC tomorrow, and therefore the box office at Tonic will be sold out as well. Would anyone be kind enough to pick me up TWO tickets for the Emergency/MMW shows Tuesday night at Tonic? I could meet you in the city at anytime tomorrow after 5:00 to exchange my monies for them. I would really appreciate the help, as this is a highly anticipated show. I'll be home tonight by 8:00, and I would ask anyone that can help me out to call me at home so I'll know if I should make the trip. 540-869-5634. Call as late as you like. Thanks in advance. Hagen _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Sh" Subject: Re: Anyone feeling generous. . .please Date: 17 Sep 2001 21:26:51 -0400 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01C13FBF.77481280 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable WEll folks, I called Other Music before they closed tonight, and was = told that they are totally sold out of the MMW/Emergency tickets. My = only other option is the box office tomorrow when they open at 7:30p, = and was told that they probably are sold out as well. So, I do = appreciate those who called and offered to get me tickets, I really do!! = Though, in case someone happened to find that when they bought their = tickets to tomorrow night's show, two extra tickets were accidentally = given to you by mistake as well, then I would feel more than obliged to = take them off of your hands. =20 Enjoy the show for those of you attending. It will most likely be a = revelation. . . =20 ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01C13FBF.77481280 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
WEll folks, I called Other = Music before=20 they closed tonight, and was told that they are totally sold out of the=20 MMW/Emergency tickets.  My only other option is the box office = tomorrow=20 when they open at 7:30p, and was told that they probably are sold out as = well.  So, I do appreciate those who called and offered to get me = tickets,=20 I really do!!  Though, in case someone happened to find that when = they=20 bought their tickets to tomorrow night's show, two extra tickets = were=20 accidentally given to you by mistake as well, then I would feel more = than=20 obliged to take them off of your hands. 
  Enjoy the show for = those of you=20 attending.  It will most likely be a revelation. . . =20
------=_NextPart_000_002D_01C13FBF.77481280-- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ch.A.Irman (Herr I)" Subject: Le Roy Jenkins/violin&drums dous recs? Date: 18 Sep 2001 12:58:16 +0200 Hello all!! Just a whlie ago I found a mp3 file of the track called "The Stomp", from the CD "Swift are the winds of life" by Rashied Ali and Le Roy Jenkins Duo (AFAIR - re-issued by Knit Classics). Although it is mostly Ali's solo playing (only intro and outro is played by both musicians), I liked it a lot. What about the rest of this CD? Is it worth purchasing? And of course, could you recommend me some more recordings of Le Roy Jenkins, and of violin/drums duos as well? Thank you all and best regards Ch.A.Irman -- r e k l a m a Lista Plac [ http://listaplac.onet.pl ] - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ch.A.Irman (Herr I)" Subject: Don "SugarCane" Harris recommendations? Date: 18 Sep 2001 12:44:43 +0200 Hello all!!! While digging recently through my old tapes, I found recording of Zappa's "Wille The Pimp". And I wondered whether you can recommend me some non-Zappa Harris recordings? Thanks in advance and best regards Ch.A.Irman -- r e k l a m a Lista Plac [ http://listaplac.onet.pl ] - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Theo Klaase Subject: Filmworks X Date: 18 Sep 2001 04:18:15 -0700 (PDT) --0-1241412094-1000811895=:60606 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Reviews on Filmworks 10 anyone? -Theo www.theodorusrecords.com Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information inYahoo! News. --0-1241412094-1000811895=:60606 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii       Reviews on Filmworks 10 anyone? 

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Donate cash, emergency relief information in Yahoo! News. --0-1241412094-1000811895=:60606-- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jason tors Subject: Re: "for every Zizek, there is a pipek" Date: 18 Sep 2001 06:07:54 -0700 (PDT) I have been working in the woods for the past ten days and missed all of the media coverage at the beginning. When I walked out of the woods I tried to find video clips of the actual event I had been hearing about and couldnt find anything online or on the tv. The only exception is in the emotion stroking video lead ins on the news stations. To withhold it is not right, but to keep showing it over and over isnt right either. These times are very different, when I took this job in the woods I left one world and came back out to another. Wisdom of the uncertainty [david s. ware] --- Tosh wrote: > With respect to the Television media, I am also struck by the > insensitivity > of various interviews with victims and their families by showing > repeated > showings of the attack __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ben Axelrad" Subject: [no zorn content] news analysis Date: 18 Sep 2001 08:50:05 -0500 hi, the link below is for an article which i think presents the best analysis of the events of the previous week. please take a look: http://emperors-clothes.com/analysis/afghan.htm thanks, ben _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Berman" Subject: Re: Don "SugarCane" Harris recommendations? Date: 18 Sep 2001 10:23:48 -0400 Sugar Cane's Got the Blues -live at the berlin jazz festival (1973 = basf) is a great album and has the added bonus of Robert Wyatt on drums. = would probably be hard to come by I imagine though. ----- Original Message -----=20 Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 6:44 AM > Hello all!!! >=20 > While digging recently through my old tapes, I found recording of > Zappa's "Wille The Pimp". And I wondered whether you can recommend me > some non-Zappa Harris recordings? >=20 > Thanks in advance and best regards >=20 > Ch.A.Irman >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 >=20 > r e k l a m a > Lista Plac [ http://listaplac.onet.pl ] >=20 >=20 > - >=20 >=20 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ben Axelrad" Subject: dorner / bjork questions Date: 18 Sep 2001 09:05:48 -0500 hi, has anyone heard the new sven-ake johansson/axel dorner/andrea neumann disc on hatology? also, how does this compare to the dorner disc on erstwhile? i just picked up the new bjork disc, mostly because of the love this list has for her. it's very nice, especially the song "cocoon" (with it's warmth and clicks & pops - i think i'm in love). are there any other artists out there doing similar stuff, preferably a bit more experimental and leaning more towards ambient and down-tempo electronics? also the new yoshiharo hanno (sp?) disc on sub rosa is quite good. for those interested, the jazz record mart in chicago has some old hatARTs left, back at their old reduced prices. two weeks ago i picked up the triple cd of morton feldman's "for christian wolff" for $9.99 and his "works for piano 2" for $3.99. thanks, ben _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: patRice Subject: Re: [no zorn content] news analysis Date: 18 Sep 2001 16:42:09 +0200 Hi there. Unfortunately the link doesn't work... patRice np: Fantomas, The Director's Cut (love this one more & more) nr: Yasunari Kawabata, Palm-Of-The-Hand Stories Ben Axelrad wrote: > hi, > > the link below is for an article which i think presents the best analysis of > the events of the previous week. please take a look: > > http://emperors-clothes.com/analysis/afghan.htm > > thanks, - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Samerivertwice@aol.com Subject: Tonic Fundraising shows Date: 18 Sep 2001 10:55:16 EDT I just got off the phone with Zorn and he said anyone who would like to but can't attend this week's fundraising gigs at Tonic should just send their money directly to the Red Cross. That's who he's giving all the proceeds to. Best wishes, Tom DeMarchi - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dan Frank Kuehn Subject: Like a Nation in Mourning Date: 18 Sep 2001 09:01:27 -0600 Even with all the news and pictures it's hard to imagine... My own best get-through-it music has been Bloodcount and other Tim Berne projects. Which brings me to Sin & Drift, whom I noticed were playing at the Knit Sept 4 - did anyone catch this? Drew Gress, Uri Caine, Tom Rainey and Tim Berne - hope they're all OK and playing somewhere. "Screwgun Building" still standing? Dan in Taos NM - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Smith" Subject: RE: Like a Nation in Mourning Date: 18 Sep 2001 11:09:49 -0400 The Screwgun Building is in Brooklyn. They probably had a terrifying view, but no direct danger. Steve Smith ssmith36@sprynet.com NP - Sofia Gubaidulina, 'Johannes-Passion,' St. Petersburg Chamber Choir/Gergiev (Hanssler) (...which is simply breathtaking...) -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-zorn-list@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Dan Frank Kuehn Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 11:01 AM Even with all the news and pictures it's hard to imagine... My own best get-through-it music has been Bloodcount and other Tim Berne projects. Which brings me to Sin & Drift, whom I noticed were playing at the Knit Sept 4 - did anyone catch this? Drew Gress, Uri Caine, Tom Rainey and Tim Berne - hope they're all OK and playing somewhere. "Screwgun Building" still standing? Dan in Taos NM - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ben Axelrad" Subject: Re: [no zorn content] news analysis Date: 18 Sep 2001 10:23:04 -0500 It's working for me. For those who are interested, e-mail me and I'll send you the story. Or you can check out the entire website at www.tenc.net. Thanks, Ben >From: patRice >Reply-To: iqhouse@yahoo.de >To: Ben Axelrad >CC: zorn-list@lists.xmission.com >Subject: Re: [no zorn content] news analysis >Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 16:42:09 +0200 > >Hi there. > >Unfortunately the link doesn't work... > >patRice > >np: Fantomas, The Director's Cut (love this one more & more) >nr: Yasunari Kawabata, Palm-Of-The-Hand Stories > > > >Ben Axelrad wrote: > > > hi, > > > > the link below is for an article which i think presents the best >analysis of > > the events of the previous week. please take a look: > > > > http://emperors-clothes.com/analysis/afghan.htm > > > > thanks, > > >- > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Skip Heller Subject: Re: Don "SugarCane" Harris recommendations? Date: 19 Sep 2001 09:27:59 -0700 > Hello all!!! > > While digging recently through my old tapes, I found recording of > Zappa's "Wille The Pimp". And I wondered whether you can recommend me > some non-Zappa Harris recordings? > > Thanks in advance and best regards > > Ch.A.Irman > > > BEST OF DON & DEWEY also called JUNGLE HOP on Specialty. The truest music you'll ever buy, esepc "The Letter". skip h - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?efr=E9n=20del=20valle?= Subject: Fwd: RE: Like a Nation in Mourning Date: 18 Sep 2001 19:10:50 +0200 (CEST) > > The Screwgun Building is in Brooklyn. They probably > had a terrifying view, > but no direct danger. > > Steve Smith Do these guys have their own building?. I really thought they were much poorer... Best, Efrén _______________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger: Comunicación instantánea gratis con tu gente - http://messenger.yahoo.es - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Smith" Subject: RE: RE: Like a Nation in Mourning Date: 18 Sep 2001 13:28:32 -0400 The "Screwgun Building" is Tim's home address. Steve Smith ssmith36@sprynet.com NP - Wolfgang Rihm, 'Deus Passus,' Stuttgart Bachakademie/Rilling (Hanssl= er) -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-zorn-list@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of efr=E9n del valle Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 1:11 PM > > The Screwgun Building is in Brooklyn. They probably > had a terrifying view, > but no direct danger. > > Steve Smith Do these guys have their own building?. I really thought they were much poorer... - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Smith" Subject: Stockhausen: WTC disaster "greatest artwork of all time" Date: 18 Sep 2001 15:00:52 -0400 Forwarded from another list. Good thing no one in America knows who Stockhausen is, or we'd be lining up for record burning by now. Can anyone verify that this is truthful, given the amount of inaccurate crap floating around out there right now? Steve Smith ssmith36@sprynet.com According to the German news agency dpa, Karlheinz Stockhausen said in an interview he gave on account of a concert in Hamburg: "What happened there is - now you must readjust your brain - the biggest artwork of all times. That spirits achieve in a single act what we in music cannot dream of, that people rehearse ten years long like mad, totally fanatical for a concert and then die. This is the biggest artwork that exists at all in the whole universe... I couldn't match it. Against that, we - as composers - are nothing." Asked by a jorunalist whether he identified art and crime, Stockhausen replied: "It's a crime because the people were not consenting. They haven't come to the 'concert'. This is evident. And nobody had announced them that they could die in its process. What happened there spiritually, this leap from security, from what's ordinary, from life, that sometimes happens poco a poco in art. Or else it is nothing." The Financial Times Germany quotes Stockhausen's colleague Gyorgy Ligeti with the following reaction: "Stockhausen has taken the side of the terrorists. [...] If he thinks this atrocious mass murder is an artwork, I am sorry that I have to say that he should be locked up in a psychiatric hospital". (All quotes translated from German by me) Florian - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Acousticlv@aol.com Subject: rashied ali/leroy jenkins Date: 18 Sep 2001 16:14:54 EDT In a message dated 9/18/01 10:35:58 AM, owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com writes: << Swift are the winds of life" by Rashied Ali and Le Roy Jenkins Duo (AFAIR - re-issued by Knit Classics). >> hi herr.I, i love the disc, but perhaps reead the article review/interview i did with rashied ali about the complete survival reissues in PERFECT SOUND FOREVER http://www.furious.com/perfect/rashiedalisurvival.html Interview with drummer Rashied Ali love and peace and l'shana tocah to everyone.... steve n.p. stephan wittwer: streams (grob 320) n.r. tons of email - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Acousticlv@aol.com Subject: jenkins/sugarcane recommendations Date: 18 Sep 2001 16:21:18 EDT << Jenkins >> oh- i swear by leroy jenkins 1994 cri disc 'themes and improvisations on the blues,' and also love his black saint duos with muhal abrams "lifelong ambitions" from 1981, bl saint. revolutionary ensemble discs are essential but poorly recorded, if that matters at all to you, which it doesnt to me. re sugarcane, th eonly other stuff i heard was in the fusion genre and so wasnt my taste and dont recall em. --steve k. steve k. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Revue des Fossiles" Subject: Re: Stockhausen: WTC disaster "greatest artwork of all time" Date: 18 Sep 2001 13:22:16 -0700 http://www.stockhausen.org/reply_to_bild.html - RdF. >Forwarded from another list. Good thing no one in America knows who >Stockhausen is, or we'd be lining up for record burning by now. Can anyone >verify that this is truthful, given the amount of inaccurate crap floating >around out there right now? > >Steve Smith >ssmith36@sprynet.com _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim Flannery Subject: Re: jenkins/sugarcane recommendations Date: 18 Sep 2001 13:41:49 -0700 <> The 1971 Johnny Otis lp _Cuttin Up_ (with a cover by Jack Davis of Mad Magazine) is pretty sweet; straight blues, features Shuggie Otis as you might expect. Sugarcane also plays on some John Mayall albums, I'd recommend the 2xLP _Back to the Roots_ if you can find it (a personal high-school years staple, also featuring Clapton, Taylor, Mandel, etc. -- a "reunion" gig, sometimes with combinations of the guitarists). Dittos on earlier comments about the MPS LP, which also features Volker Kriegel & (on one track) Terje Rypdal. -- Jim Flannery newgrange@sfo.com "It isn't so much the horrible things that have happened; it is the degraded attitudes of the people after the happenings that destroy all hope. They blink, and go on. But it isn't the same selves that go on." -- R.A. Lafferty nr: Mark Coggins, _The Immortal Game_ np: - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Smith" Subject: RE: Stockhausen: WTC disaster "greatest artwork of all time" Date: 18 Sep 2001 17:20:48 -0400 Thanks so very much for sending this. I've forwarded it to the composer who sent me the original post. Steve Smith ssmith36@sprynet.com NP - Six Feet Under, "Waiting for Decay," 'True Carnage' (Metal Blade) -----Original Message----- Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 4:22 PM http://www.stockhausen.org/reply_to_bild.html - RdF. >Forwarded from another list. Good thing no one in America knows who >Stockhausen is, or we'd be lining up for record burning by now. Can anyone >verify that this is truthful, given the amount of inaccurate crap floating >around out there right now? > >Steve Smith >ssmith36@sprynet.com _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: sergio luque Subject: f=?ISO-8859-1?B?5A==?=llt > invalidObject Series > mp3s Date: 18 Sep 2001 17:22:35 -0500 hi, i don't know if someone has already pointed this site out: http://www.fallt.com/invalidObject 360 tracks on 24 3"cds, by artists working within the field of 'microsound', are available to download in mp3 format throughout september. enjoy, -- sergio luque sergioluque@mac.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nvinokur@aol.com Subject: Re: Don "SugarCane" Harris recommendations? Date: 18 Sep 2001 20:51:04 EDT There are a few john mayall albums that he plays on, I think USA Union...one of the drumless bands of mayall in the early 70's (remember them?) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Franz Fuchs" Subject: RE: Stockhausen: WTC disaster "greatest artwork of all time" Date: 19 Sep 2001 07:18:52 +0200 > From: owner-zorn-list@lists.xmission.com > On Behalf Of Steve Smith > Forwarded from another list. Good thing no one in America knows who > Stockhausen is, or we'd be lining up for record burning by > now. Can anyone > verify that this is truthful, given the amount of inaccurate > crap floating > around out there right now? Unfortunately there seems to be more to these quotes than the statement on stockhausen.org implies, as they stem from audio protocolls made by NDR, a television and radio broadcaster. Several newspapers* have printed the story, without mentioning the involvement of the tabloid "Bild". The Music Festival Hamburg has canceled Stockhausen's concerts, which were scheduled for Tuesday and Wednesday. Regards Franz Fuchs * Links to German articles: http://www.taz.de/pt/2001/09/19/a0115.nf/text http://www.sueddeutsche.de/aktuell/sz/artikel79181.php - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jesse Kudler" Subject: [promo spam] FREE SubArachnoid Space et al show in Conn. Date: 19 Sep 2001 02:11:39 -0400 Hello all. Apologies for the cross-post and the short notice. This show came together last minute, and I'm trying to spread the word. Thanks. Tonight! Wed., 9/19/01, 7p.m. sharp at Eclectic House, 200 High St., Middletown, CT. FREE OF CHARGE. Subarachnoid Space psych rock from SF Keiper/Baldwin/Looker trio drums/bass/guitar improv Phil Collins a whole bunch of people improvising. E-mail me with any questions. Directions to Wesleyan are here: http://www.admiss.wesleyan.edu/traveltowes.html Then ask anyone around where Eclectic is. Thanks, Jesse - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: stephen.fruitman@idehist.umu.se (Stephen Fruitman) Subject: Re: Stockhausen: WTC disaster "greatest artwork of all time" Date: 19 Sep 2001 11:08:28 +0200 (MET DST) >"What happened there is - now you must readjust your brain - the biggest >artwork of all times. If true, yet another confirmation of the fact that artists need not (and obviously often should not) use their channels of communication to discuss politics. Also reminiscent of Andr=E9 Breton=B4s statement oh-so-long ago th= at the ultimate surrealist act would be to fire a pistol into a crowd. Stephen Fruitman Dept of Historical Studies Ume=E5 University SE-901 87 Ume=E5 Sweden - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Arthur Rother Subject: Re: Stockhausen: WTC disaster "greatest artwork of all time" Date: 19 Sep 2001 13:50:42 +0200 At 11:08 AM 9/19/2001 +0200, you wrote: > >"What happened there is - now you must readjust your brain - the biggest > >artwork of all times. >If true, yet another confirmation of the fact that artists need not (and >obviously often should not) use their channels of communication to discuss >politics. This is not about politics. > Also reminiscent of Andr=E9 Breton=B4s statement oh-so-long ago that >the ultimate surrealist act would be to fire a pistol into a crowd. This is also not about politics. Although politic related, or influenced, it is not ventilating politic= opinion. As he said, readjust your brain first, please. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JonAbbey2@aol.com Subject: PROMO: Keith Rowe/Toshimaru Nakamura-Weather Sky Date: 19 Sep 2001 10:53:42 EDT sorry for the promotional intrusion, and further apologies if you receive=20 more than one copy of this: I'm proud to announce the release of the latest CD on my label: Keith Rowe/Toshimaru Nakamura-Weather Sky (Erstwhile 018) Keith Rowe and Toshimaru Nakamura are two of the most important musicians in= =20 the world today. Fans of each other=E2=80=99s work, they began to collaborat= e in=20 early 2001, and have created in Weather Sky a timeless work of art. Rowe, who is best known for his groundbreaking work with AMM (the seminal=20 improvising collective he co-founded in 1965 with Eddie Pr=C3=A9vost and Lou= =20 Gare), also currently leads the Music In Movement Electronic Orchestra, an=20 all-star group featuring many of Europe's premier electronic musicians. Over= =20 the last few years, Rowe has also been pursuing numerous projects outside of= =20 his two primary projects, releasing superb records with Burkhard Beins=20 (Grain, on Zarek), G=C3=BCnter M=C3=BCller/Taku Sugimoto (The World Turned U= pside Down,=20 on Erstwhile), as well as his solo work, most recently documented on the=20 difficult to digest but very strong Harsh (Grob). Nakamura plays the "no-input mixing board", connecting the input of the boar= d=20 to the output, then manipulating the resultant feedback. Since 1998, he's be= e n exploring the possibilities of his instrument in contexts ranging from=20 solo to collaborations with Sachiko M, Andrea Neumann, and the duo project=20 Repeat with drummer Jason Kahn. Nakamura is also a co-founder of The=20 Improvisation Meeting at Bar Aoyama, a monthly concert series in Tokyo, whic= h=20 recently changed its name and location to Meeting At Off Site, and has toure= d=20 Europe quite frequently over the last few years, to widespread acclaim. Weather Sky was recorded in Saint-Etienne, France in June 2001, and consists= =20 of three live improvisations totalling 73 minutes. Both musicians almost=20 entirely sublimate their egos throughout, creating a pure abstract feedback,= =20 with occasional flecks of sound jumping to the foreground, coalescing to=20 produce a sense of eternity. =E2=80=9CRowe and Nakamura's is a music at once immensely sophisticated and=20= utterly=20 simple. A music which recreates the uncanny and pregnant suspension of time=20 in live performance; and which is itself the physical manifestation of an=20 exquisite sense of proportion. An ergonomic music which is philosophically=20 and aesthetically radical, drawing on - and seemingly echoing - the flight o= f=20 the most numinous abstractions; and yet felt as a physical tremor in the ver= y=20 brain of the listener, reminding us that the body is a memory, the profound=20 depths of which are only fitfully probed. This is the sound of a deep dive=20 into the void, breathtaking and mysterious.=E2=80=9D-Ed Baxter=20 =E2=80=9CHere are some stories/fables about silence and stammering, or durat= ion and=20 discontinuation, or memory and incident. We are not "hearing" the sound. We=20 are "being" unawares at the inner side of the sound. "He" makes "space" and=20 the other "He" has made "time." "He" has a name as Keith Rowe, and the other= =20 "He" has a name as Toshimaru Nakamura. Of course, It is needless to emphasiz= e=20 that the name of "He" is exchangeable toward the other.=E2=80=9D-Atsushi Sas= aki=20 personnel: Keith Rowe: tabletop guitar, electronics Toshimaru Nakamura: no-input mixing board more info available at the following web sites, or contact Erstwhile Records= =20 at ErstRecs@aol.com: http://www.erstwhilerecords.com http://www.japanimprov.com/tnakamura/ http://www.shef.ac.uk/misc/rec/ps/efi/mamm.html all Erstwhile CDs can be purchased from numerous worldwide distributors, all= =20 of which are listed on my web site. also, all Erstwhile releases can be=20 purchased via direct mail order, by check or by electronic payment through=20 PayPal, details of which are also on my web site.=20 future releases from Erstwhile will include: 019: Greg Kelley/Jason Lescalleet-Forlorn Green 020: Giuseppe Ielasi/Domenico Sciajno-Right After 021: MIMEO/John Tilbury-The Hands Of Caravaggio 022: poire_z + 023: Polwechsel/Fennesz 024: Keith Rowe/Thomas Lehn/Marcus Schmickler 025: J=C3=A9r=C3=B4me Noetinger/ErikM - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JonAbbey2@aol.com Subject: PROMO: Cor Fuhler/Gert-Jan Prins-The Flirts Date: 19 Sep 2001 10:53:34 EDT sorry for the promotional intrusion, and further apologies if you receive=20 more than one copy of this: I'm proud to announce the release of the latest CD on my label: Cor Fuhler/Gert-Jan Prins-The Flirts (Erstwhile 017) Cor Fuhler and Gert-Jan Prins are both prominent members of the European=20 improv world. Both live in Amsterdam, yet their paths rarely crossed before=20 they became involved in the initial incarnation of MIMEO in 1997.=20 Fuhler is primarily known for his work as a pianist, in ongoing projects wit= h=20 such mainstays of the Dutch scene as Han Bennink, Michael Moore and Tristan=20 Honsinger. He released a superb solo prepared piano CD in 1994, 7CC in IO=20 (Geestgronden). In The Flirts, Fuhler manipulates sounds from turntables and= =20 mbiras, filtering them through an analogue synth. Prins=E2=80=99 background=20= is as a=20 drummer, but over the past decade, he=E2=80=99s focused almost exclusively o= n=20 electronic noise-based music, using radio and television transmitters to=20 create a distinctive, physical sound. In 2000, he released a solo CD on Grob= ,=20 Prins Live, as well as a superb trio CD with Thomas Lehn and Peter Van=20 Bergen, e-rax-Live At the Bimhuis, on his own label, X-Or. Both Fuhler and=20 Prins are also still members of MIMEO. Since joining MIMEO, Fuhler and Prins have worked more and more together, in= =20 and out of the band, and in early 2001, they recorded The Flirts over the=20 course of two studio sessions in Amsterdam. The Flirts combines a relentless= =20 yet subdued energy with an endless stream of fresh ideas, resulting in a CD=20 that is seemingly chaotic, yet very musical. The stunning packaging was entirely created by NYC-based designer Friederike= =20 Paetzold.=20 =E2=80=9CPrins Live was one of the best records of 2000. Here returns the ma= n with=20 Cor Fuhler: a serious, tender and yet kicking approach that is never just=20 music. The real virtuality!=E2=80=9D-Marcus Schmickler personnel: Cor Fuhler-EMS synthi AKS, turntables, mbiras Gert-Jan Prins-electronics, FM modulations, radio more info available at the following web sites, or contact Erstwhile Records= =20 at ErstRecs@aol.com: http://www.erstwhilerecords.com http://www.euronet.nl/users/fuhler/ http://www.shef.ac.uk/misc/rec/ps/efi/musician/mprins.html all Erstwhile CDs can be purchased from numerous worldwide distributors, all= =20 of which are listed on my web site. also, all Erstwhile releases can be=20 purchased via direct mail order, by check or by electronic payment through=20 PayPal, details of which are also on my web site.=20 future releases from Erstwhile will include: 019: Greg Kelley/Jason Lescalleet-Forlorn Green 020: Giuseppe Ielasi/Domenico Sciajno-Right After 021: MIMEO/John Tilbury-The Hands Of Caravaggio 022: poire_z + 023: Polwechsel/Fennesz 024: Keith Rowe/Thomas Lehn/Marcus Schmickler 025: J=C3=A9r=C3=B4me Noetinger/ErikM - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rob Allaert Subject: Witness sextet ? Date: 19 Sep 2001 17:26:59 +0200 Zorn-agains, Here in Belgium Dave Douglas' Witness was announced as a sextet although they recorded as a nonet. Are they touring Europe as a sextet ? greetings, Rob @ risk - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jason tors Subject: emergency + mmw review? Date: 19 Sep 2001 08:32:30 -0700 (PDT) Did anyone from the list make it to the tonic gig last night that would like to give a review?? I am curious as to what kind of set emergency did as well as mmw. thanks! J __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Herb Levy Subject: Re: Stockhausen: WTC disaster "greatest artwork of all time" Date: 19 Sep 2001 12:25:13 -0500 Here's a URL for an article in the FAZ which includes more direct quotes from Stockhausen's radio interview: Stockhausen's reply to BILD doesn't cover all of what he says here, though he has apologized. Just one more instance in which to pay attention to the art made by artists and not worry about their opinions on issues of the day. On a related note, & I wish I had the entire reference at hand now, there was a remarkable essay published years ago analyzing the actions of the Symbionese Liberation Army (the California collective who among other things kidnapped Patty Hearst and robbed some banks) as performance art in a book called Performance in Postmodern Culture, edited by Michel Benamou. Back in the mid-1970s, this was a daring, and funny, position to take. The publication was obscure enough that the piece wasn't controversial, though it certainly could have been. & the SLA was incompetent & ineffective enough in any political sense that the analysis didn't seem all that impossible. I'll see if I can dig the essay out of storage. Bests, Herb - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pequet@altern.org (Benjamin Pequet) Subject: Re: Stockhausen: WTC disaster "greatest artwork of all time" Date: 19 Sep 2001 14:46:00 -0400 At 12:25 19/09/01 -0500, Herb wrote: >Just one more instance in which to pay attention to the art made by >artists and not worry about their opinions on issues of the day. Or rather a reminder to take really crappy newspapers like Bild for what they're worth? Based on the reply from Stockhausen I certainly wish I had access to what has originally been said, and not to edited versions by various approximating journalists. Since not foreign to neo-mythology and occult belief systems (has he said he was the reincarnation of Archangel Michael? as well as coming from planet Sirius where he was trained as a musician?), Stockhausen should probably have known better than unleashing "Lucifer" in a talk to the media... Benjamin - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Arthur Rother Subject: Re: Stockhausen: WTC disaster "greatest artwork of all time" Date: 19 Sep 2001 21:19:21 +0200 It kind of feels like the McCarthy era again. A great tragedy happened in NY on the 11th of September, I have seen no wording of anybody claiming it is not a tragedy. But what makes it sad is that there is no room for discussion. Either you say kill those bastards who did it and have no mercy, but if you say anything else, and I mean anything, you automatically take the side of the terrorists. The article below shows it at it best. When saying that many more people are dying outside of America then those murdered on the 11th (either due to direct or indirect influence of western foreign policy, or dying for other reasons), it is called cynical anti-Americanism. I'd want this connection to be explained by the author, because we are just talking numbers here. When Stockhausen says "the greatest work of art imaginable for the whole cosmos" people read "hey, that was fun, lets do it again", which is not what he said. I am aware that this list is not the appropriate platform for these discussion, or that many people would think it is not, but why not discussing it here. As long as it doesn't turn into a "Mike Patton vs Good Music" debate. And this is an interesting list for it, because I see all different kind of opinions. >Here's a URL for an article in the FAZ which includes more direct quotes >from Stockhausen's radio interview: > >Or rather a reminder to take really crappy newspapers like Bild for what >they're worth But maybe I was also only talking about Media. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Skip Heller Subject: as if we didn't have enough to think over Date: 20 Sep 2001 14:03:11 -0700 When stuff like the Stockhausen misquote pops up in the press, it is liable to set off all kinds of alarms in people. This is, unfortunately, to be expected. Times like these breed alarmism. Personally, I don't think his remarks were the wisest that could be made, but they weren't hateful in any way. But they were easily twisted into something shocking. Journalists will need to be hyper-responsible in how they report what is said. Artists, never the world's greatest self-editors, will have to choose their words and even their art expression more wisely than before. The nation -- and world -- is afraid. Artists and people who write about them need to be very specific as to what they mean and how they say it, because in this time where we are confronted with an enemy we can't see, anyone who goes off half-cocked could be the next enemy. Mind you, I am not endorsing nor condemning anyone's views or words on the subject. I am, however, saying this: If you have a viewpoint you feel a need to express, whether or not it is likely a popular one right now, the key word is "specificty." Say what you're gonna say, and make sure it can't get twisted to mean something else. Metaphorical and allegorical answers could easily be turned into something you weren't saying. Say the right thing the wrong way, and you could be the next Stochausen. skip h - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Revue des Fossiles" Subject: Stockhausen Replies Date: 19 Sep 2001 14:26:58 -0700 http://www.stockhausen.org/message_from_karlheinz.html - RdF. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: wlt4@mindspring.com Subject: 150 songs not to play Date: 19 Sep 2001 17:36:50 -0400 The evil corporate overlords at radio behemoth Clear Channel (see http://www.salon.com/ent/feature/2001/05/30/clear_channel_employees/index.html and http://www.salon.com/ent/clear_channel/2001/08/08/antitrust/index.html) has given its stations a list of 150 songs to avoid. The most obvious one (The Cure's "Killing an Arab") is missing and some others probably all stations should avoid (Billy Joel, Dio) but I'd think that "War Pigs" and "My City Was Gone" are altogether appropriate. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: wlt4@mindspring.com Subject: oops: here's the actual 150 song list Date: 19 Sep 2001 17:38:09 -0400 http://www.pioneerplanet.com/news/ncl_docs/137030.htm - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Skip Heller Subject: Re: 150 songs not to play Date: 20 Sep 2001 14:50:55 -0700 > The evil corporate overlords at radio behemoth Clear Channel (see > http://www.salon.com/ent/feature/2001/05/30/clear_channel_employees/index.html > and http://www.salon.com/ent/clear_channel/2001/08/08/antitrust/index.html) > has given its stations a list of 150 songs to avoid. The most obvious one > (The Cure's "Killing an Arab") is missing and some others probably all > stations should avoid (Billy Joel, Dio) but I'd think that "War Pigs" and "My > City Was Gone" are altogether appropriate. > > - > Could we just ban Neil Diamond and Lee Greenwood? skip h - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jossie" Subject: looking for John Date: 13 Jul 2001 18:31:20 -0700 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003F_01C10BCA.032A7CE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable HI: mi name is Gerardo Stawsky and I am a University professor and = filmmaker from Uruguay, doing a documentary feature on Holocaust = survivors. I would like to have Zorn's e-mail address (also some other = contact, if you have it) so I can contact him about how we could use = some of his music for this project. Not only because it's amazing in = itself (particularly Masada) but also because of its deep connection = with the history of the European Jews. Thanks for your help and for keeping people aware of this genius. You can either reply to the address from which this was sent or to the = following address:=20 gerardo.stawsky@universidad.ort.edu.uy ------=_NextPart_000_003F_01C10BCA.032A7CE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
HI: mi name is Gerardo Stawsky and I am a University = professor=20 and filmmaker from Uruguay, doing a documentary feature on = Holocaust=20 survivors. I would like to have Zorn's e-mail address (also some other = contact,=20 if you have it) so I can contact him about how we could use some of his = music=20 for this project. Not only because it's amazing in itself (particularly = Masada)=20 but also because of its deep connection with the history of the European = Jews.
Thanks for your help and for keeping people aware of = this=20 genius.
You can either reply to the address from which this = was sent=20 or to the following address:
gerardo.stawsky@un= iversidad.ort.edu.uy
------=_NextPart_000_003F_01C10BCA.032A7CE0-- From ObviousEye@aol.com Sat Sep 01 22:54:57 2001 Received: from [152.163.225.101] (helo=imo-r05.mx.aol.com) by lists.xmission.com with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 15dPHc-0002MT-00 for zorn-list@lists.xmission.com; Sat, 1 Sep 2001 22:54:56 -0600 Received: from ObviousEye@aol.com by imo-r05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.4.) id f.75.1a79f41b (30960) for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2001 00:54:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <75.1a79f41b.28c31599@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_75.1a79f41b.28c31599_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10539 Status: RO --part1_75.1a79f41b.28c31599_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit zornlist--- ok, it's time for all of you music fans with encyclopedic knowledge of jazz and its various definitions to help me out (please). here's the deal: i am in a Jazz History class and we are discussing "swing". what is it, etc. there are, of course, many attempts at explaining it musically...but usually people fall back on the "essence" or "feeling". anyway, my assignment is to find one person's idea on swing. i figure this list is the best place to find it because i am likely to be able to get an idiosyncratic, less common quote or idea ...which is really what i am looking for. i figure most other people in the class will find a Wynton Marsalis quote or something. i want something more perceptive. if anyone can help me, i would be so very appreciative. thank you. ben o. PS. by finding an "idiosyncratic, less common" quote as i so poorly put it, i don't mean to be senselessly reactionary against the traditional definition of swing. i simply would like to find an idea that hasn't likely been discussed in the particular class i am in. --part1_75.1a79f41b.28c31599_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit zornlist---

ok, it's time for all of you music fans with encyclopedic knowledge of jazz
and its various definitions to help me out (please). here's the deal: i am in
a Jazz History class and we are discussing "swing". what is it, etc. there
are, of course, many attempts at explaining it musically...but usually people
fall back on the "essence" or "feeling".

anyway, my assignment is to find one person's idea on swing. i figure this
list is the best place to find it because i am likely to be able to get an
idiosyncratic, less common quote or idea ...which is really what i am looking
for. i figure most other people in the class will find a Wynton Marsalis
quote or something. i want something more perceptive. if anyone can help me,
i would be so very appreciative.

thank you.

ben o.

PS. by finding an "idiosyncratic, less common" quote as i so poorly put it, i
don't mean to be senselessly reactionary against the traditional definition
of swing. i simply would like to find an idea that hasn't likely been
discussed in the particular class i am in. --part1_75.1a79f41b.28c31599_boundary-- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ken Waxman Subject: Re: Magazine suggestions Date: 03 Sep 2001 18:04:33 -0400 (EDT) Coda Cadence The Wire --- Joeseph Simon wrote: > I was curious as to > what magazines would this list offer for suggestions > to subscribe to to keep > happy with? > > Thank-you, > Joeseph Simon > _______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Joeseph Simon" Subject: Magazine suggestions Date: 03 Sep 2001 13:19:57 -0700 I've been reading Zorn listings for a couple years now as I am a big fan of Zorn and the styles of music that he encompasses. At the top of the year I want to make payments for whatever I can for a year in advance. This would include magazines in the form of subscriptions. So, I was curious as to what magazines would this list offer for suggestions to subscribe to to keep happy with? Thank-you, Joeseph Simon - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ROBERTO J. LOPEZ" Subject: Support to New Yorkers Date: 12 Sep 2001 11:22:21 -0300 Sincere condolences for the people in NYC from the Argentinian members of the List. ROBERTO JORGE LOPEZ Av. Alvarez Jonte 3785 5* Piso Dto."C" C1407GOE Buenos Aires Republica Argentina TEL-FAX: 54-11-4566 3278 CELULAR: (15) 4424-5108 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ricardo Reis Subject: help financing a CD Date: 12 Jul 2001 21:39:20 +0100 (WET DST) Hi fellaws! well, there is this book/cd/film/informatic store (it's something called FNAC, european zornlister's probably already heard of it) that is planning a Black October dedicated to Horror and terror (for a diference on the words read Ernst Junger "the adventurous heart") and are asking for client sugestions. the best sugestion gets a check of 5000esc (20US? 25 euro). they ask for film, literature,books or themes to work on... so... gimme me a hand, yeah? (i just remember edward gorey because my last buy was "the evil garden" by Max Nagl, a great CD) greets! Ricardo Reis "Non Serviam" From alexfrayne@hotmail.com Fri Aug 31 02:50:55 2001 Received: from [64.4.15.94] (helo=hotmail.com) by lists.xmission.com with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 15ck0s-0001qE-00 for zorn-list@lists.xmission.com; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 02:50:54 -0600 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 01:50:51 -0700 Received: from 203.134.19.8 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 08:50:51 GMT X-Originating-IP: [203.134.19.8] Bcc: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Aug 2001 08:50:51.0955 (UTC) FILETIME=[09D3E030:01C131FA] Status: RO Here is my live list of shows on cdr. No video - contact me at alexfrayne@hotmail.com for a trade.. 1) Jonas Hellborg, live at Montmatre, 2/7/1991 A- AUD 2) Allan Holdsworth, Live in Tokyo, 1994, A SBD w Husband etc. 3) Allan Holdsworth and Band Live in Philadelphia, 1995, A AUD 4) Tribal Tech Live in Amsterdam, 4/4/1996, 2cdr FM A+ 5) Jean Luc Ponty live in '78, from unreleased LP A 6) Brecker Bros. "Live" in 1992. New York SBD A+ w/Chambers 8) Buckshot Le Fonque, live in Amsterdam, FM, A+ 11) Allan Holdsworth, "Gathering of Minds," live in Montreux, 1983 A 12) Tribal Tech, live in Amsterdam, 28/3/1998, 2cd A+ 13) Brand X Reunion, San Francisco, 1993 AUD B 18) Bill Evans Let the Juice Loose, live in Japan, 1989. A++ 19) UZEB live in Europe, 1990, 2CD (A+) SBD PRO 20) The Jazz Pistols, "Three on the Floor." PRO A+ 21) Frank Gambale "Live at the Baked Potato." (88) A+ Released 22) Prism, "Uncovered," live in Japan. SBD A+ 23) Weather Report, Live in Japan, LIVE WEATHER, 1978, A+ 24) Stanley Clark live, 1976-77 - A+ (release) 25) Bill Bruford with EarthWorks, Knitting Factory, 1995, A 26) The Bruford Tapes, (1979 Live at Long Island), A+ FM 27) Miles Davis Live at Montreux (89) A+ w/Foley, Margitza 28) John Scofield Live at Hamburg, 1988, A. 29) Tower of Power, Live 1976. "IN LIVING COLOR" released, A+ 31) Brand X , 199? Reunion Tour A+ 32) Truth In Shredding, Holdsworth and Gambale Studio release, 1990. 33) Blue Tav, studio release, 1990, w/Holdsworth A++ 35) Mike Stern live in Amsterdam ,98, w/ Morales, Goines A+ 36) Mike Stern live in Stuttgart 4/12/90, with Chambers, Goines, A+ 37) Dixie Dregs, live in New York, 1981. A+ FM 38) Miles Davis, Live in Hamburg, 1990 A+, AUD, GREAT!!! 39) Mahavishnu Orchestra at North Sea Jazz, 1984, FM A+ 41) Chick Corea with Roney, McBride, North Sea Jazz, 1996 FM A+ 42) Rite of Strings, 199? with Ponty, Clark, Di Meola, North Sea, FM A+ 43) Mahavishnu Orchestra, live Hamburg FM A+ 1986 46) Miles Davis Live in Toronto, 1990 A SBD, "KING OF TRUMPETS" 47) Weather Update Live in Hamburg 1986 A, w/ Zawinul 50) Chick Corea, Tony Williams, SUMMER JAM, 1cd, 1979 A+ 51) Tribal tech live in Brisbane, 1997, A AUD w Virgil Donati 52) Brecker Bros. live in New York, 1977, A FM 53) Mike Stern Live in Germany, 1994, A+ FM, w/ Weckl, Andrews 54) Larry Coryell with Eleventh House live in Sweden, 1998 A+ FM 55) Chick Corea live in Montreal, 1986, FM A+ 57) Brand X live in New York, 1978, A "RATED X" boot 58) Tribal tech live in Koln, 1999, Thick Tour, SBD 2cdr A 60) Jaco Pastorius, JAZZSTAGE, live in Berlin, 1979, FM A 61) Chick Corea live Under the Sky Electric band 1986 FM A+ 62) Santana live in 1980 in Montreux, FM A+ 63) Santana live in Montreux, 1996, SBD A+, Montreux Jazz Fest. 64) Herbie Hancock and Headhunters, Chicago, 2/1977 FM A+ w/ JACO!!! 65) Herbie Hancock live in Feb 1973 - pre Headhunters Band, 2cd A- AUD 66) Dave Sanborn live in the Netherlands, 1999 FM A 67) Weather Report, live in Offenbach, 8/78, SBD, 2cd A+!! 68) Herbie Hancock at North Sea Jazz, 1991 A/A- 69) Bela Fleck live 1997, A+ ??? ???? 70) Jim Beard live in Leverkeusen Germany, 1999, FM A+++ 71) Chick Corea Elektric band 2 live in Warsaw, 1994, Fm 2cd A+ 72) Weather Report Live in Phoenix, 1978, 2cd SBD A+ 73) Chick Corea EleKtrik Band in London 1992, Fm A 74) Brecker Bros. Live in Brussels, 1994 A+ FM 75) Weather Report Live in Philadelphia, Nov 1978 2CD A+ AUD 77) David Sancious live at My Father's Place, NY, 1976, A++ SBD 78) David Sancious live in Worchester MA, late 1975, A SBD 79) Allan Holdsworth live in Buffalo, 1986, Atavachron tour A SBD 81) Shawn Lane - TIME IS THE ENEMY , LIVE SBD A. 82) John Mclaughlin live in London, Trio w/Gurtu, A+ 1989, CD RELEASE 93) Steely Dan, live in Irvine, CA, 2cd w/Chambers, A+ 94) Tribal TECH, live in Austria, 2cd, SBD A+ 1996 95) Tribal TECH live in Baltimore, 1994, A-, AUD 96) James Muller, ALL OUT, debut album, 1999, A++ CD RELEASE 98) Steely Dan Live in New York, 2000 FM A++ 99) Joni Mitchell live in Toronto, 1994 FM A+ AMAZING!!!!!! "JUST ICE" 100) David Bowie live in Montreal 1983 SBD A+, 2cdr 101) John Mclaughlin live in Antibes, France, 1990, SBD A+ 102) Toto live in Sweden, 1996, SBD, A+ 2cdr, TAMBU tour 103) Dave Fuzinsci, live in Philadelphia, 1998, sbd A+ 104) Happy The Man live in Virginia, 1976, FM A 105) Vangelis live in Japan, 1984, FM A 2cdr. 106) Herbie Hancock and the Headhunters, Nizza, 1989, SBD 2CDR A 107) UK live in Paradise, Cleveland, OH, 1978, FM A+ (Holdsworth) 108) Karizma live at THE BAKED POTATO, 1998, SBD A+ 2cdr (Landau) 2cdr 109) Steely Dan live in OSAKA Japan, 2000, A- AUD 2cdr 110) Chick Corea and RTF live on The OLD GREY WHISTLE TEST, 1976 A- 111) John Mcl. and THE ONE TRUTH BAND, live in NY, 1978, SBD, A. 112) John Mcl. and THE ONE TRUTH BAND, live in Paris, 1978 AUD A 2cdr 113) Allan Holdsworth live in Poland, 1997, AT UMEA, A+ FM. 114) Steely Dan live in 1996, SBD A+, locn unknown, WAYNE KRANTZ. 2cd 115) Shawn Lane and Hellborg live at Ziggy's Salem, 1998, FM A 116) John Scofield, BLUE MATTER tour, Denmark, 11/7/87 FM A 117) Jazz Explosion Superband, live in Toronto 28/1/88, AUD A- 2cdr 118) Carlton and Lukather at the Blue Note, Tokyo, 1998, SBD A 120) Mike Stern live in Leverkeusen, 1997, 10/11/97, SBD w/ Weckl A+ 122) Rypdal, Bozzio, Bailey live in Berlin, 1996, FM, A 2cdr 123) Herbie Hancock, ROCKIT BAND live in Tokyo, 1985, one song only, A 124) Lee Ritenour, live in Amsterdam, 1998, FM, 2cdr, A+ 125) Kazumi Watanabe, live in Tokyo, 1987, FM A 126) Jean Luc Ponty live in Hamburg, 1976, FM 2cdr (awesome) A++ 129) Steve Lukather's Birthday, at The Baked Potato, 1998, SBD A+ 2cdr 130) Garsed, Donati, Helmerish, live in USA 19??, SBD A 131) Lonely Bears, "Bears are Running." CD RELEASE, BOZZIO etc. 132) Lonely Bears, "Injustice." CD RELEASE 133) Tribal Tech, live in Ivrea, Italy, 1998 March AUD A- 134) El Buho, w/ Oteil Burbridge, live in Georgia, 2/6/97, SBD A+ 2cdr 135) Jukis Iotila Band w/ Stern, live 199? SBD A 136) Tom Coster "From the Street" CD RELEASE 1996 137) Iginbottom's Wrench, 1969, first Holdsworth session. 138) Zawinul Syndicate live in Glasgow, 199? A AUD 139) John Mcl. Heart of Things Band, live in Stuttgart 7/98 FM A++ 141) Centrifugal Funk, MVP RELEASE 1991 w Shawn Lane 142) Herbie Hancock and the Headhunters, live Michigan, 28/10/73 A- 152) David Sanborn live at NORTH SEA 1996, AUD A- 153) Miles Davis live in Paris, 1989, SBD A- "The Gates of Heaven" 154) Miles davis live in Singen 1990, "Sing In Singen" FM A+++ 155) Santana live in Florida, 1988, 25th Anniversary reunion SBD A+ 156) Jean-Luc Ponty live in Toronto 2000, AUD A, plus filler from 88 159) Arti and Mestri, Italian Prog Rock, live Italy 74, FM A- 160) Tribal Tech, live in Ponderano, Italy, 2/11/00 SBD A+ 2cd 161) Joni Mitchell, live in Budokan, Tokyo, 3/7/83 FM A+ 162) Lenny White, live at the Roxy LA 1978 AUD A- cdr 163) Miles Davis, Live in Milan 11/4/89, 2cdr SBD A, w/Foley, Garrett 166) Chick Corea Elektrik band, live in Madrid, 1986 SBD A+ 167) El Buho live in Cincinatti, 2/22/97 SBD A+ 2cdr 168) Gongzilla live in Vermont, 7/15/98 SBD A+ 2cdr 169) Santana live 8/27/95 2cdr SBD A+ (unknown location) 170) Jean Luc Ponty live in Viersen Germany 7/1/88 FM A+ (30 mins) 171) Santana live in Paris 29/1/2000 FM A+ "Yaleo" 172) David Bowie live in Tokyo 1990 SBD A, "Tokyo Dome" 173) Santana live in New Haven, CT, 25/2/96 SBD A+ w/Hancock 174) Tower of Power live in California 25/2/96 FM A+ 175) Jeff Beck live in Tokyo 2000 2cdr SBD A+ 176) Chick Corea ElektriK band live in London 10/15/90 FM A 177) Weather Report live in Atlanta Georgia, 2/24/80 FM A 178) Allan Holdsworth "Tokyo Dream" live in Tokyo 14/5/84 Pro A++ 179) Karizma live at the Fabrik, Germany, 4/29/00 "Document" A+ 180) Chick Corea Elektric Band live in Berne, 1986 FM A- 181) Led Zeppelin live in Seattle, 21/3/75 SBD A- 2cdr 182) Pink Floyd "Welcome to the Machine" New York 2/7/77 SBD A- 183) Kenso LIVE in Japan A+ PRO 184) Shawn Lane live at Umea in Poland "Summer Days" 6/19/98 FM A+ 185) Mike Stern live at North Sea Jazz 7/9/94 FM A w/Weckl, Andrews 186) Tribal Tech, live in Leverkeusen, Nov 2000, FM A++ 187) Steve Miller Band live in Albany NY 1990 SBD A+ 188) Chick Corea and Friends "Jam" 1980 - ??locn, Coryell etc SBD A+ 189) Santana live at The Waldorf, San Francisco, 2/5 1981m SBD A+ 2CDR 190) Santana live in Portland OR, 3/14/1992 w/Shorter, AUD A- 3CDR 191) Herbie Hancock and the Headhunters Reunion, North Sea 1998 FM A 192) Herbie hancock and the Headhunters, Montreux, 19/7/89 2CDR, SBD A 193) Pink Floyd, Earl's Court, LONDON, 20/0ct/94 SBD A++ 2CDR 194) Santana Shorter Band, Montreux, July/7/88, FM, A 2CDR 195) Weather Report Boston, July 11/81 SBD 2DR A w/Jaco 196) Miles Davis, "MORE LIVE EVIL," Live 1973 SBD A AMAZING 2CDR 197) Miles Davis Live in Hamburg 6/91 w/Garrett, Wellman, FM A+ 198) Herbie Hancock live in Munich 1989 Headhunters SBD A+ 199) Victor Bailey w/Chambers, Fuzinscki, Beard, Koln, 2000 FM A+ 200) David Sanborn's 1999 New Year's Party - SBD A+ 201) Michel Camillo Trio, Den Haag, 14/7/2000 SBD A 202) Herbie Hancock w/ Shorter, Hakim, Clarke, Juan Antibes, 1991 SBD A 203) "YO MILES" Miles Tribute Band, live ??? 1/9/2000 3CD SBD A 204) Zawinul Syndicate 5/6+7/00 Live in San Francisco 2cdr AUD A 205) SIXUN live in Leverkeusen 10/21/95, FM A++, This is Great! 206) BRAND X live in LONDON 1979 Rainbow Theatre, SBD A 207) Los Lobotomys live in Germany 1994 from video, SBD A 208) Los Lobotomys live in Los Angeles 1989 PRO - A+++ 209) TOWER of POWER direct to disc, 1981 RARE studio date A++ 210) MILES DAVIS Live Around the World PRO A++ 211) Chick Corea Akoustic Band live in Belgrade SBS A+ Jazz DOOR 212) Allan Holdsworth "ROAD GAMES" A+ 213) Bela Fleck and the Flecktones "LIVE ART" A+ 2cdr 214) Schleigo live in America somewhere ?? 9/1/99 and 5/29/99 4cdr A 215) Santana live in Montreux, 7/4/93 w/Joe Sample - SBD A- 216) Miles Davis live in New Orleans w/Robben Ford 4/25/86 SBD 2cdr A 217) Tower of Power live in Germany "ohne EXTRA FILTER" 1998 SBD A+ 218) Return to Forever live in Wallingford CT 1976 SBD A 219) Pat Metheny "Bright Size LIVE" W/Jaco, Boston 6/16/76 SBD 1CDR B 200) Pat Metheny Jazz Workshop, w/Jaco, Moses, 1976 AUD B- 220) Allan Holdsworth live in KOLN 93, AUD A w/Hunt, Wackerman. 221) UK live in 1978 with their "ROAD TEST" SBD A w/Allan Holdsworth 222) Mike Stern, KOLN JULY 93, 2cdr, FM A+ w/Trio - Caron, Perowsky 223) Jan Garbarek, Adelaide 2000, DSBD 2cdr A+ w/Weber, Mazur 224) Al Di Meola, Utrecht, Netherlands, 1982 w/Barry Miles SBD A 225) Vital Information, 11/9/00 Martyrs, Chicago 2cdr DSBD A+ 226) Al Di Meola 6/13/93 New Britain CT, 2 CDR SBD A+ 227) Jaco Pastorius with WORD OF MOUTH, Tokyo 9/1/82 FM A+ 228) VANGELIS live in ATHENS 97/8/1 with choir etc FM A+ 229) Ryuchi Sakamoto live in Tokyo 12/2/1992 FM A+ AMAZING!!!!! 230) YES live in Los Angeles 12/7/97 Universal Theatre, FM 2cdr A+ 231) JINSATU live in Tokyo 3/15/96 (JAPANESE FUSION) FM A++ 232) Santana live in Baden-Baden, Germany, 3/3/87 FM A+ 233) Robben Ford live in Baden-Baden, Germany, 7/12/88 FM A+ 234) SCOTT HENDERSON BLUES BAND live in Chicago 12/17/2000 2cdr SBD A 235) Allan Holdsworth, Haltern, Germany 5/6/87 AUD A- (SIZZLES!) 236) Miles Davis, Ferrara, Italy, 19/11/90 AUD 2cdr A- 238) Victor Bailey, Utrecht, Netherlands, 2000 FM 2cdr A + 239) THE POLICE live, Houston TX, 3/20/82, FM 2cdr, A+ 240) Marcus Miller, Den Haag, July 1998, FM A, w/Poogie Bell 241) Miles Davis, Detroit Fest. w/Ford, 8/31/86 2cdr SBD A- 242) David Bowie, "Never Let You Down" Montreal 8/30/87 SBD 2cdr A++ 243) Victor Wooten live 5/11/96 w/drums only SBD A- filler, Flecktones 244) Tower of Power, 4/4/86 Minneapolis, MN 88min FM 2cdr A+ 245) Tower of Power, 3/30/96 Pitea, Sweden 49min FM A+ 246) Tower of Power, ?/?/98 Fox Theatre - Stockton, CA 39min A+ 247) Steve Khan 5/17/94, Koln, Germany 78min SBD, A- 248) Bill Laswell & Sacred System, 4/22/98, Hamburg 68min FM A+ 249) David Bowie, Vancouver 1983, SBD A+ (serious moonlight tour) 250) J.J Cale, live in London, 1990, with quartet, SBD A+ 251) Bruce Hornsby and Branford Marsalis, Oakland 12/31/90 SBD A 252) LED ZEPPELIN live, Cleveland OH, "DESTROYER" 27/4/77 2cdr SBD A+ 253) Santana "BULLRING BY THE SEA" Tijuana, Mexico, 3/92, FM A+ 254) Tribal Tech live in Hellendorn, 25/10/00, 2cdr SBD A+ 255) Tribal Tech, Salzburg, Austria, 28/3/95 2cdr SBD A 256) David Sanborn live in Vittoria 21/7/00 SBD A+ w/Sample, Blade 257) GONG live at the Hippo in Paris, 28/5/77 SBD A 258) Herbie Hancok w/Clark, Shorter Hakim, Munich 1991 SBD A+ 259) Miles Davis live in Munich 7/18/87 3cdr FM A+ 260) Miles Davis live in Hamburg 10/27/86 2cdr FM A+ 261) Mike Clarke - New York 3/10/01 AUD 2cdr A+ (Very Funky!) 262) John McLaughlin Trio, Gottenburg 1992, SBD A+ w/DiPiazza, Gurtu 263) Brandon Fields, live in LA, le Cafe, 11/16/85 SBD A- w/Coliauta 264) Chick Corea w/ElektriK Band Fasching, Sweden 23/4/92 A+ FM 265) Santana live in Zurich, 5/8/83, Sweden, SBD A- 266) Allan Holdsworth live in Miami, 1988, w/Coliauta, AUD A (AWESOME) 277) Miles Davis live in Leverkeusen 10/14/90 FM A+ 278) Miles Davis, Perugia, Italy, 5/89 SBD A w/ Wellman, Akagi 279) Creatchy's Birthday live in LA 23/9/00 - w/Lukeather AUD A 280) Santana live in Hamburg 1998 SBD 2cdr, A - w/Benny Reitveld 282) Marcus Miller live in JazzBaltica 1998, SBD A+ 283) Tribal Tech, Israel, 1995, SBD A w/Henderson and Willis 284) Brecker Bros. live in Montpellier 7/1992 2cdr AUD A 285) Mike Stern live in Groginen 10/15/95 w/Morales, SBD A 286) Bob Berg live in Amsterdam 8/12/89 FM A+ w/ Dennis Chambers 287) Miles Davis live in Montreux 14/7/85 FM A+ "Human Nature" 288) Miles Davis live in Tokyo "PACIFIC EXPRESS" 28/7/85 2cdr AUD A- 289) Michael Brecker in Belgrade, 1/89 "Cost of Living" SBD A 290) POLICE live in Montreal, 8/2/83, SBD A, HOT SHOW! 291) ROXY MUSIC at the HAMMERSMITH ODEON, London, 18/5/79 FM A+ 292) Mike Stern live in Hamburg 17/11/96 w/Weckl, Andrews, SBD A 293) Mike Stern live in Umea, Sweden, 95 w/Weckl, Andrews, FM A+ 294) Marcus Miller, Live Under The Sky, Japan w/Hakim, FM A+ 295) Jack DeJohnette, w/Hancock, Metheny, Holland, Philly, SBD 2cdr A+ 296) Coliauta, Heller, Gomez, Wallace, Frankfurt 98 2cdr SBD A+ 297) Heredia, Neto, Ruff live in Boras, Sweden, 1998 FM A+ 298) Alan Pasqua TRIO, live ???? 98? SBD A (great playing) 299) Wayne Shorter, Tokyo w/Beard, Holmes, Johnson AUD A, 1996 300) Tower of Power live in Kansas 11/9/74 SBD A w/Rocco Prestia 301) Dave Weckl live in ARGENTINA w/Buzz Feiten etc 2CDR SBD A+ 302) Joni Mitchell live at the Greek, LA, 9/12/79 w/Jaco AUD A- 303) COMA, Baked Potato, 1988, w/Lukeather, Steve Tav SBD A 304) Michael Brecker live at North Sea 89, w/Stern FM A+ 305) Wayne Shorter live in Tokyo 1986 w/Willis, Brechlein, FM A 306) Herbie Hancock LIVE in Japan 28/7/91 w/Hakim, Shorter FM A+ 307) David Sanborn LIVE in Japan, 7/29/1990 FM A+ w/Bullock etc 308) Allan Holdsworth live in JAPAN, 1989 w/Hunt, Husband SBD A 309) Herbie Hancock w/Jaco, Champaign, IL 24/2/77 2cdr AUD A 310) Jaco and W of M Band - New York Kool Jazz FM A++ 311) Jaco and W of M Band, 7/3/82 Montreal Jazz Fest, SBD A+ 312) Jaco and W of M Band, Fort Lauderdale "MR PIPS" 2cdr AUD A- 313) Jaco and W of M Band , Blues Alley, Washington, SBD A- 314) Gil Evans Band LIVE UNDER THE SKY w/Jaco 2cdr FM A 315) Jaco live with Dennard and Scofield, New York 1985, SBD A 316) Jaco on ESSENCE - studio album 11/11/84 ?????? rare? PRO A++ 317) Jaco live with Rashid ALI, Guadaloupe 14/12/84 SBD A 318) Herbie Hancock w/Jaco, Berklee, 6/76, AUD A- 319) Miles Davis live in POLAND, 2 shows, 10/30/88 w/DeFrancesco, SBD A 320) John Mclaughlin live in Stuttgart, 1992, w/Piazza, Gurtu SBD A+ 321) John Scofield live in Leverkeusen 1988, w/Chambers, Beard, SBD A 323) Allan Holdsworth live at Chestnuts, PA 2cdr SBD A++ 324) Dave Sanborn LIVE UNDER THE SKY, Japan, FM A+ 1988 325) Tom Coster and friends LIVE UNDER THE SKY, Japan, AUD A 326) Brecker Bros Live in Japan 3/29/93 FM A+ w/Chambers 327) Brecker Bros Live in Japan 92/16/7 SBD 2cdr A, w/Weckl 328) Lane, Sipe, Hellborg, Sweden, 11/15/96 FM A++ (best show ever!) 329) Gary Willis, Brisbane Australia, 26/4/98 AUD A w/Chambers 330) Miles Davis, Antwerp, 1/11/89 AUD 2cdr A 331) Miles Davis, Maastricht 27/7/90 AUD 2cdr A 332) Miles Davis, The Hague, 13/7/90 AUD 2cdr A- 333) Miles Davis, Lund, Poland, 16/10/88 AUD 2cdr A w/Joey De Francesco 334) Mike Stern, Brisbane, 13/9/98 2cdr AUD A-, w/Chambers 335) Santana, Walk of Fame concert, LA, Feb 1996, FM 2cdr A+ 336) TOTO, live in Yokohama, Japan, 1999, 2cdr FM A+ 337) Weather Report, Grand Rapids, MI, 30/11/77, SBD A 338) Weather Report, Royal Oak, MI, 29/11/77, 2cdr SBD/AUD A 339) John Mclaughlin Trio, Australia 1992, FM 2cdr A++ (DiPiazza) 340) Pink Floyd, Empire Pool, England, 1974 FM A++ (DSOTM) 341) Pink Floyd live in Venice 1989, satellite B'cast, 2cdr A+ 342) Brand X live in Rochester NY, 1977, SBD A, w/Kenwood Dennard 343) John Mclaughlin, ONE TRUTH BAND, USA 7/20/78, SBD A 344) Mahavishnu Orchestra, Japan, 9/19/73, 2cdr, w/Cobham AUD A 345) Miles Davis, Switzerland, 10/22/71, 2cdr SBD A+++!!! w/Chancler 346) Miles Davis, Belgrade, 11/3/71, SBD A+++!!! w/Keith Jarrett 347) Wayne Shorter, Houston, Texas, 12/15/85, SBD A 348) Wayne Shorter, New York, 11/5/86, SBD A 349) Wayne Shorter, London, 11/19/95, SBD A+, w/Dave Gilmour 350) Herbie Hancock, Headhunters II, London, 7/98 FM A 351) Allan Holdsworth, Amsterdam, 15/5/2000, SBD A+ w/Johnson, Husband 352) Dave Fuzinski, JAZZPUNK USA, 4/17/99, SBD A+ 353) Jazz Explosion Superband, w/Holdsworth, LA, 2cdr, 12/2/88 AUD A 354) Tribal Tech live in Buenos Aires, Argentina, 1993, FM A- 355) Wayne Shorter Live in Koln, 11/95, SBD A 2cdr w/Gilmour _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Smith" Subject: Nono and the Necks Date: 20 Sep 2001 01:55:17 -0400 Hi there: Just got word of a pretty remarkable new music-type event happening here in New York pretty soon, and wanted to share. (Non-New Yorkers, I beg your indulgence.) A Trail on the Water: Abbado-Nono-Pollini John C. Borden Auditorium, Manhattan School of Music Thursday, Oct. 4, 6pm. FREE Carnegie Hall and the Manhattan School of Music present the American premiere of Bettina Ehrhardt's documentary film, which explores the friendship of three extraordinary artists: conductor Claudio Abbado, the late composer Luigi Nono and pianist Maurizio Pollini. Ehrhardt, Abbado, Pollini and Nono's widow, Nuria Schoenberg Nono, will take part in a panel discussion following the film. Free tickets, required, are available in advance at the MSM box office. It's my understanding that the film is 59 minutes long and got great reviews following its debut at the Salzburg Festival. I can't go to the actual event, alas, but the nice people at the Manhattan School sent me a videotape and I'll tell you about it soon, I promise. Also, for Jon and anyone else interested, the upcoming New York date by the Necks is at the BAM Cafe on Saturday, Oct. 27 at 9pm, assuming that international flights aren't all screwed up (and I say that because a LOT of cool events, like the NY dates of Klangforum Wien, have been cancelled for that very reason). Steve Smith ssmith36@sprynet.com NP - Mario Pavone, "Sharpeville," 'Sharpville' (Playscape) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Smith" Subject: RE: Magazine suggestions Date: 20 Sep 2001 01:59:13 -0400 And the increasingly fine Signal to Noise, about which you'll learn more at http://www.signaltonoisemagazine.org/ Steve Smith ssmith36@sprynet.com NP - Mario Pavone, "Chimera," 'Sharpeville' (Playscape) NR - Poems of the Elder Edda -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-zorn-list@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Ken Waxman Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 6:05 PM Coda Cadence The Wire --- Joeseph Simon wrote: > I was curious as to > what magazines would this list offer for suggestions > to subscribe to to keep > happy with? > > Thank-you, > Joeseph Simon > _______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: patRice Subject: The Cure (was: Re: 150 songs not to play) Date: 20 Sep 2001 09:33:10 +0200 wlt4@mindspring.com wrote: > The evil corporate overlords at radio behemoth Clear Channel (see http://www.salon.com/ent/feature/2001/05/30/clear_channel_employees/index.html and http://www.salon.com/ent/clear_channel/2001/08/08/antitrust/index.html) has given its stations a list of 150 songs to avoid. The most obvious one (The Cure's "Killing an Arab") is missing Totally disagree that The Cure's "Killing An Arab" is the most obvious one! Maybe for once the people behind this 150 songs-not-to-play-list did make their homework. The lyrics of "Killing An Arab" have got nothing to do with racism or anti-Islamism - it's based on the novel "The Stranger" by Albert Camus. The only reason which maybe, maybe, maybe would justify its ban is the title... patRice np: Mr. Bungle, California nr: Nick Hornby, How To Be Good - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: red shorty Subject: Re: Clear Channel (ot) Date: 20 Sep 2001 00:34:44 -0700 here is a URL for some stories about the Clear Channel corporation: http://www.salon.com/ent/clear_channel/index.html --G C - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "serge dautricourt" Subject: Evan Parker Recommendation Date: 20 Sep 2001 01:04:40 -0700 Hi Can someone recommend an Evan Parker album for starters? Thanks Serge _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Skip Heller Subject: Re: Clear Channel (ot) Date: 21 Sep 2001 02:18:59 -0700 > here is a URL for some stories about the Clear Channel corporation: > > http://www.salon.com/ent/clear_channel/index.html > > --G C > > > - > Gee, a conglom that owns about a dozen bands and all the commercial airspace. And people are wondering why sales of everything but that dozen bands is down. Clear Channel recently purchased Mega 92, the most listenable commercial station in LA (all old school funk with a Chicano focus, and a great playlist largely devoid of weak music). Shortly after this buy-out, the station changed, and, as the Arbitron ratings tell us, not to any kind of audience satisfaction. Their only successful show (besides Art Laboe, who is the mmost highly-rated dj in the Southwest) was Smokey Robinson. Aside from those two -- and Laboe self-produces -- they're really losing ground with the most wide-reaching market in LA, except with the only two shows they have that whose playlists are entirely phone-in dedication requests. Radio and record sales are finally at cross-purposes. The traditional way of commerce in the music business was, for along damn time, that you use your catalog sales as your bedrock money. This way, if your boy band stiffs, something like your Van Morrison catalog will still bring in large dollars, especially around Christmas. Now, however, most catalog albums -- many considered classic -- have been wiped out of radio life. The average classic rock station used to have roughly a 750 song playlist, with about 250 of those titles in measurable rotation. Now, it's a 250 song playlist with about 60 in heavy rotation. On-site focus groups are tested, and the playlist is regulated by their responses. (You need a 6 share to be allowed airplay. What generates a 6 share? In oldies radio, the Beatles, Supremes, and "Brown Eyed Girl" are about the only guaranteed 6's across the board.) When people can't hear your catalog, they don't buy it. When they don't buy it, the store sends it back. The label has to pay for the returned merchandise. Meanwhile, Best Buys is willing to take a loss on CD revenues, figuring that, if consumers come in to buy a CD, they'll buy something else and the store will make its money there. (This works. It's called a "traffic-builder".) Meanwhile, record stores -- not Sam Goody, but retailers whose stock is a little deeper -- are in trouble, because people aren't buying there. Any non-obvious catalog title is an alost automatic return, and the new stuff s cheaper at best Buys. Tower is in bad enough shape that they've had to renegotiate terms with nearly every distributor (at least one major has granted them one year terms -- which means a yr to pay, and at least one notable indie has granted them six month terms). And Tower needs space. While the amount of in-print titles has expanded exponentially, the amount of floorspace has remained the same. Jazz and blues departments have been hit hard, since their stock is 95% catalog of dead (and therefore non-touring) artists, with classical not at all healthy (Leonard bernstein doesn't tour much lately). Save for something like a Ken Burns or some other major PBS styled presentation, you're not seeing sizable orders for those titles. The little guys -- which at thhis point means anyone not moving mega-numbers -- are in trouble. Before, they didn;t sell big, but you could at least buy, say, an Ellery Eskelin record. Now, there's not an Ellery eskelin divider card in the store. (And the Mom and Pops are getting trounced just as well.) Clear Channel is the biggest Evil Giant, doing for music appreciation what Jimmy Swaggart has done for theology -- homogenzing it to the point of total stupidity. If there is a solution, it is in the hands of the consumer of less-obvious goods. If he can just consume anough and bark at enough radio stations, magazines, and websites, he'll actually be seen and dealt with as a viable consumer, part of a group whose dollar is as good as the next guy's. But how that can be accomplished remains to be seen. Internet Radio, as a measurable marketplace force, is still nebulous. And none of us seem to be buying our records at chain stores where the numbers actually count for the Eskelins, Feldmans, and Binneys of the world can get a fair shake in the larger marketplace. As now, we're trapped in the crosshairs of a giant screwgun, and it is unfortunately not the Tim Berne kind. We are, at least for now, non-persons. skip heller np: mark feldman, music for violin alone - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: stephen.fruitman@idehist.umu.se (Stephen Fruitman) Subject: Re: 150 songs not to play Date: 20 Sep 2001 13:49:53 +0200 (MET DST) >The evil corporate overlords at radio behemoth Clear Channel.....has given >its >stations a list of 150 songs to avoid. The most obvious one (The >Cure's >"Killing an Arab") is missing It _is_ often the _titles_ the censors often look at. There was an interesting article in a theme issue of _Index on Censorship_ a year or so ago about such; during the Gulf War, one authority issued a ban on ABBA=B4s "Waterloo" (!). Stephen Fruitman Dept of Historical Studies Ume=E5 University SE-901 87 Ume=E5 Sweden - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Sean Westergaard" Subject: RE: Clear Channel (ot) Date: 20 Sep 2001 09:16:13 -0400 Skip just laid it out perfectly (Thanks!) I worked record retail for about 10 years in Ann Arbor, a place where a good indie store can really do well. Althought there was certainly some mismanagement on the part of the owner, the scenario Skip described is right on the money. not to mention the fact that clear channel also owns SFX entertainment, the nation's largest national booking agency, which really completes the vicious circle; only the mega bands getting the mega-airplay (as dictated by clear channel) get booked into the decent venues, which are booked by sfx. talk about homogenization. Even Tower looks like it's going to fold, because, in large part, catalog sales are no longer viewed as viable. I see it as analagous to the big hit film industry (not that this list seems like consumers of big hit films) where all the advertising is super front-loaded to generate hype, because they know that since the movie sucks, it won't have any legs at the box office. it's all about milking the moment; art is not a part of the equation. Publishing is being dictated in much the same way by the major chains; they need huge initial runs in order to make their giant towers of books for the two-week promotion of said book, then they all get returned and ultimately sold as remainders. and since they're not making any money on their big runs, they're "playing it safe" by not even taking chances on smaller runs. it's an ugly scene all the way around. Wtih regard to PatRice's post about the Cure song, where the title COULD be misconstrued, what about even more ridiculous inclusions, like Imagine by John Lennon. Do they want to limit any possible mention of tolerance and possible peace-mongering? What a bunch of clowns. Let's be thankful there are still a handful of community radio stations where no such orders from on high are issued. if there isn't one in your area, both WFMU.ORG and WCBN.ORG stream on the web. Both are freeform stations, although FMU is slightly more geared towrds "rock freeform" from what i understand. (full disclosure: i dj at wcbn) LONG LIVE FREEFORM RADIO -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-zorn-list@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Skip Heller Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 5:19 AM > here is a URL for some stories about the Clear Channel corporation: > > http://www.salon.com/ent/clear_channel/index.html > > --G C > > > - > Gee, a conglom that owns about a dozen bands and all the commercial airspace. And people are wondering why sales of everything but that dozen bands is down. Clear Channel recently purchased Mega 92, the most listenable commercial station in LA (all old school funk with a Chicano focus, and a great playlist largely devoid of weak music). Shortly after this buy-out, the station changed, and, as the Arbitron ratings tell us, not to any kind of audience satisfaction. Their only successful show (besides Art Laboe, who is the mmost highly-rated dj in the Southwest) was Smokey Robinson. Aside from those two -- and Laboe self-produces -- they're really losing ground with the most wide-reaching market in LA, except with the only two shows they have that whose playlists are entirely phone-in dedication requests. Radio and record sales are finally at cross-purposes. The traditional way of commerce in the music business was, for along damn time, that you use your catalog sales as your bedrock money. This way, if your boy band stiffs, something like your Van Morrison catalog will still bring in large dollars, especially around Christmas. Now, however, most catalog albums -- many considered classic -- have been wiped out of radio life. The average classic rock station used to have roughly a 750 song playlist, with about 250 of those titles in measurable rotation. Now, it's a 250 song playlist with about 60 in heavy rotation. On-site focus groups are tested, and the playlist is regulated by their responses. (You need a 6 share to be allowed airplay. What generates a 6 share? In oldies radio, the Beatles, Supremes, and "Brown Eyed Girl" are about the only guaranteed 6's across the board.) When people can't hear your catalog, they don't buy it. When they don't buy it, the store sends it back. The label has to pay for the returned merchandise. Meanwhile, Best Buys is willing to take a loss on CD revenues, figuring that, if consumers come in to buy a CD, they'll buy something else and the store will make its money there. (This works. It's called a "traffic-builder".) Meanwhile, record stores -- not Sam Goody, but retailers whose stock is a little deeper -- are in trouble, because people aren't buying there. Any non-obvious catalog title is an alost automatic return, and the new stuff s cheaper at best Buys. Tower is in bad enough shape that they've had to renegotiate terms with nearly every distributor (at least one major has granted them one year terms -- which means a yr to pay, and at least one notable indie has granted them six month terms). And Tower needs space. While the amount of in-print titles has expanded exponentially, the amount of floorspace has remained the same. Jazz and blues departments have been hit hard, since their stock is 95% catalog of dead (and therefore non-touring) artists, with classical not at all healthy (Leonard bernstein doesn't tour much lately). Save for something like a Ken Burns or some other major PBS styled presentation, you're not seeing sizable orders for those titles. The little guys -- which at thhis point means anyone not moving mega-numbers -- are in trouble. Before, they didn;t sell big, but you could at least buy, say, an Ellery Eskelin record. Now, there's not an Ellery eskelin divider card in the store. (And the Mom and Pops are getting trounced just as well.) Clear Channel is the biggest Evil Giant, doing for music appreciation what Jimmy Swaggart has done for theology -- homogenzing it to the point of total stupidity. If there is a solution, it is in the hands of the consumer of less-obvious goods. If he can just consume anough and bark at enough radio stations, magazines, and websites, he'll actually be seen and dealt with as a viable consumer, part of a group whose dollar is as good as the next guy's. But how that can be accomplished remains to be seen. Internet Radio, as a measurable marketplace force, is still nebulous. And none of us seem to be buying our records at chain stores where the numbers actually count for the Eskelins, Feldmans, and Binneys of the world can get a fair shake in the larger marketplace. As now, we're trapped in the crosshairs of a giant screwgun, and it is unfortunately not the Tim Berne kind. We are, at least for now, non-persons. skip heller np: mark feldman, music for violin alone - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ken Waxman Subject: Re: The Cure (was: Re: 150 songs not to play) Date: 20 Sep 2001 10:04:16 -0400 (EDT) Hold on I think you guys are missing the point here. The question is *not* which songs are more or less appropriate to ban in this present climate. Censoring *anything* for for silly reasons -- or for any reason at all, but that's another discussion -- is wrong. Ken Waxman --- patRice wrote: > wlt4@mindspring.com wrote: > > > The evil corporate overlords at radio behemoth > Clear Channel (see > http://www.salon.com/ent/feature/2001/05/30/clear_channel_employees/index.html > and > http://www.salon.com/ent/clear_channel/2001/08/08/antitrust/index.html) > has given its stations a list of 150 songs to avoid. > The most obvious one (The Cure's "Killing an Arab") > is missing > > Totally disagree that The Cure's "Killing An Arab" > is the most obvious one! > > Maybe for once the people behind this 150 > songs-not-to-play-list did make their homework. > > The lyrics of "Killing An Arab" have got nothing to > do with racism or anti-Islamism - it's based on the > novel "The Stranger" by Albert Camus. > > The only reason which maybe, maybe, maybe would > justify its ban is the title... _______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: patRice Subject: Re: The Cure (was: Re: 150 songs not to play) Date: 20 Sep 2001 16:25:34 +0200 Ken - you're right of course. I just tried to defend The Cure, who've "suffered" a lot in the past because of the "Killing An Arab" song, not really thinking much further... As far as "silly reasons for censorship" are concerned: where does "silly" start & where does it end? I'm sure there are lots of different opinions on this. Take the photo of the naked girl ("Taboo & Exile" CD), e.g.: most people on this list, I guess (!), don't think there's anything much wrong with it, but I'm sure there's lots and lots of people out there who would *totally* disapprove of it. So: whose opinion counts? patRice np: Fantomas, The Director's Cut nr: Nick Hornby, How To Be Good Ken Waxman wrote: > Hold on > > I think you guys are missing the point here. > > The question is *not* which songs are more or less > appropriate to ban in this present climate. > > Censoring *anything* for for silly reasons -- or for > any reason at all, but that's another discussion -- is > wrong. > > Ken Waxman - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: wlt4@mindspring.com Subject: Re: The Cure (was: Re: 150 songs not to play) Date: 20 Sep 2001 10:51:54 -0400 >The lyrics of "Killing An Arab" have got nothing to do with racism >or anti-Islamism - it's based on the novel "The Stranger" by Albert >Camus. You and I may be fully aware of that but most people are not and there's nothing in the song to indicate that. The song can very easily (but not necessarily) be considered racist by somebody simply listening to it, the Cure's intentions or sources are pretty much irrelevant in such a case. My original point--something I was merely pointing out & not indicating my personal opinion either way--is that this is an obvious song for a "don't play" list, much more than the bulk of what's actually on it. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Alan Kayser" Subject: Evan Parker Date: 20 Sep 2001 13:10:36 -0400 "Hi Can someone recommend an Evan Parker album for starters? Thanks Serge" Ah, a subject for me to sink my teeth into. If you have the $ to spend, then I'd say the 50th Birthday 2CD on Leo is without a doubt the place to start. You get his two long standing trio involvements in this one package. The Schlippenbach Trio(Parker, Paul Lovens drums, Alex von Schlippenbach piano) goes back to 1972, the Evan Parker Trio (Parker, Barry Guy bass, Paul Lytton drums) to about 1978. They are all at peak form on this date to honor Parker. The recently released 2X3=5, also on Leo, actually combines the two groups and is likewise excellent, though I'd go for the double first. Also not to be missed is "The Two Seasons" a double Emanem which features the fantastic, be it little known on this side of the Atlantic, John Edwards on bass, and Mark Sanders drums. Then there's "Most Materiall" a duo with AMM's Eddie Prevost on drums, yet another 2 CD, this one on Matchless Records. Here Parker lays it all out for well over two hours, sustaining interest all the way through. This might be tougher going for the unitiated, but it is startling in it's creative breadth. Think Coltrane's "Interstellar Space" at 45rpm. Well, I haven't even started on some of Parker's other work in larger settings, but after the smaller groups check out Globe Unity Orchestra (shamefully only two recording are currently available from FMP), Barry Guy's London Jazz Composer's Orchestra, Strings With & Without Evan Parker, London Improvisors Orchestra. He's a busy guy. And even with all of this activity there's about 50% of his catalog unavailable at this point in time. Hope this helps. Alan E. Kayser np: London Jazz Composers Orchestra "Double Trouble" _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeni Dahmus Subject: US premiere of Elliott Sharp's Racing Hearts Date: 20 Sep 2001 14:09:36 -0400 The New Juilliard Ensemble, conducted by Joel Sachs, will give the U.S. premiere of ELLIOTT SHARP's Racing Hearts (1998) on Saturday, September = 22 at 8 PM in the Juilliard Theater. Free tickets are required. Also on the program:=20 TANIA LE=D3N Hechizos (1994) (N.Y. Premiere) HANS ABRAHAMSEN Piano Concerto (1999/2000) (U.S. Premiere) JUKKA TIENSUU nemo (1997) (U.S. Premiere) More info: http://www.juilliard.edu/journal/newjui_0901.html http://www.juilliard.edu/press/pr090401.html - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JonAbbey2@aol.com Subject: Re: Nono and the Necks Date: 20 Sep 2001 14:49:56 EDT In a message dated 9/20/01 2:00:28 AM, ssmith36@sprynet.com writes: << the upcoming New York date by the Necks is at the BAM Cafe on Saturday, Oct. 27 at 9pm, assuming that international flights aren't all screwed up (and I say that because a LOT of cool events, like the NY dates of Klangforum Wien, have been cancelled for that very reason). >> that'll be a fun week for shows in NYC, assuming none get cancelled. a Durian night at Tonic on 10/24, including Efzeg, the Boredoms on the 26th (at the Bowery Ballroom? I don't recall), and the Necks on the 27th. thanks for the info, Steve. what NYC needs right now more than anything, in my opinion, is for people to spend money, supporting local businesses. if you're in the area, go buy some clothes, go out to dinner, supoort your favorite stores. if you're not in the area, mail-order from someone who is, Downtown Music Gallery, for instance. I know Bruce would appreciate it. Jon www.erstwhilerecords.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JonAbbey2@aol.com Subject: new Roulette schedule Date: 20 Sep 2001 15:38:55 EDT the Roulette schedule for October-December is up on their web site, www.roulette.org. no idea how much this will be affected by current events, of course. Jon www.erstwhilerecords.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Sh" Subject: Tonic Shows This Week Date: 21 Sep 2001 01:26:51 -0400 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00DE_01C1423C.7DA634C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Anyone else gonna review the shows this week? How 'bout Emergency and = Masada. Haven't seen any about those. MMW as well? Heard that one was = really good. . . ------=_NextPart_000_00DE_01C1423C.7DA634C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Anyone else gonna review the = shows this=20 week?  How 'bout Emergency and Masada.  Haven't seen any about = those.  MMW as well?  Heard that one was really good. .=20 .
------=_NextPart_000_00DE_01C1423C.7DA634C0-- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?efr=E9n=20del=20valle?= Subject: Filmworks X Date: 21 Sep 2001 16:34:29 +0200 (CEST) Hi everyone! I just gave a quick listening to "Filmworks X: In the mirror of Maya Deren" before getting back to work. Thus, my opinions right now are quite shallow but something is pretty clear: if you're expecting Zorn to tell you something new here, this is not your record. Zorn stresses again his "kindest" side in what could be Music Romance's Vol. IV with more easy listening, exotica, some beautiful piano and cello solos and Masada-oriented tunes (the 3 versions of "Kiev"). Surely one of his most "tender" recordings to date. I haven't an opinion on Zorn's piano and percussion contributions so far. All in all, an very enjoyable record. If you're eager for "uneasy listening", you should better get Ikue Mori's "Labyrinth". I've been trying to swallow it for two weeks and I find it a very very difficult, harsh record, which makes it really interesting somehow. Anyone heard the new Ruins live on Tzadik? Best regards, Efrén del Valle _______________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger: Comunicación instantánea gratis con tu gente - http://messenger.yahoo.es - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Acousticlv@aol.com Subject: tuba- christopher meeder Date: 21 Sep 2001 15:49:10 EDT hello friends if anyone has spoken to christopher meeder this week could you call me or have him contact me asap. thanks steve koenig 718 332 6517 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dan Frank Kuehn Subject: Re: Zorn List Digest V3 #573 Date: 21 Sep 2001 16:26:35 -0600 Did someone here mention a new Dave Douglas project or disc called Evidence? Info? - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Ricardo=20Campillo?= Subject: wojciech has videos (No Zorn Content) Date: 22 Sep 2001 03:50:56 +0200 (CEST) Hello Zornies. Someone knows a web site to find videos of the polish director Wojciech Jerzy Has (or any other form to get them)? I see his films on a retrospective dedicated to him , and I'm surprise.I love his films.I find 5 videos,but I want moreˇ Thanks. _______________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger: Comunicación instantánea gratis con tu gente - http://messenger.yahoo.es - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Alan Lankin" Subject: Philadelphia concerts of interest (szc) Date: 22 Sep 2001 09:59:32 -0400 Mark Helias Open Loose - featuring Tony Malaby, Tom Rainey. Their new album is New School (Enja) - ars nova workshop, Tri-Tone, 1508 South St, Philadelphia Sept 23 (Sun) - 8 pm Rashied Ali/Wilber Morris/Louie Belogenis - John Coltrane Celebration - Houston Hall, 3417 Spruce St, Univ of Penn, Philadelphia, 215.898-6533 Sept 24 (Mon) - FREE - 8 pm Greg Bendian's Interzone - featuring Nels Cline, Alex Cline. Their very nice, new album is Requiem for Jack Kirby (Atavistic) . - ars nova workshop, Tri-Tone, 1508 South St, Philadelphia Sept 28 (Fri) - 8 pm The Vandermark 5 - (They also have a new album on Atavistic.) - North Star, 27th & Poplar, Philadelphia, 215.922.5483 Sept 28 (Fri) Roy Campbell Quartet - with Khan Jamal - ars nova workshop, Tri-Tone, 1508 South St, Philadelphia Oct 8 (Mon) - 8 pm Dave Douglas' Witness - ars nova workshop, Tri-Tone, 1508 South St, Philadelphia Oct 12 (Fri) - 8 pm Vinny Golia/Scott Fields/Tosh Makihari Trio - ars nova workshop, Tri-Tone, 1508 South St, Philadelphia Oct 22 (Mon) - 8 pm I also post listings at: http://home.att.net/~lankina/jazz/phillyjazz.html Alan Lankin lankina@att.net http://jazzmatazz.home.att.net - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David Beardsley" Subject: Heads up - it's John Coltranes 75th birthday - live netcast: 9.23.2001!!! Date: 23 Sep 2001 09:38:14 -0400 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00E3_01C14413.77967120 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Netcast: http://wkcr.org NY Times: Coltrane at 75: the Man and the Myths http://www.nytimes.com/2001/09/23/arts/music/23DAVI.html * David Beardsley * http://biink.com * http://mp3.com/davidbeardsley ------=_NextPart_000_00E3_01C14413.77967120 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_00E3_01C14413.77967120-- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kasra@ou.edu Subject: MMW's management Date: 24 Sep 2001 10:40:19 -0500 (CDT) Hey everybody, I was curious to see if anybody knew MMW's management information. I'm wanting to bring them to Oklahoma while they're on tour. You can email me at kasra@ou.edu privately so we don't clutter the listserve. Thanks. Kasra George Ahmadi np: Ibrahim Ferrer, Poncho Sanchez, Chucho Valdez; Candela - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Smith" Subject: RE: Zorn List Digest V3 #573 Date: 24 Sep 2001 12:54:36 -0400 Are you refering to Witness, the new nine-piece ensemble project he just released on RCA? Steve Smith ssmith36@sprynet.com -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-zorn-list@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Dan Frank Kuehn Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 6:27 PM Did someone here mention a new Dave Douglas project or disc called Evidence? Info? - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arthur Gadney" Subject: A note on "current events in USA" by Eugene Chadbourne Date: 24 Sep 2001 17:14:12 +0000 >From: "House Of Chadula" >Subject: Important Message from the Good Doctor! >Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 23:37:37 -0500 > >Hi all, > >It's been a couple of really weird weeks around the 'ol US of A and by the >sound of CNN droning away in the background as I type this, we may well be >on the way to ' take a bit of vengence ' at this very moment. > >Personally I have very mixed feelings about this whole mess. I am horrified >as a human being at the stupidity of the act and the wanton destruction and >death it brought down. At the same time I am equally horrified at the war >fever being stirred all around us. I have never seen the corporate media >line up so fast to package and produce the 'New War' as they have this >time. Narry a peep can be heard from any voice of reason in all of this. > >Then I got this e-mail from Eugene to post on the site. Of all that I have >heard, read, and seen in the days since September 11th nothing has >expressed the feelings I have had about this situation as clearly, >concisely, and eloquently as the words set down by the Good Doctor >Chadbourne. I wish all Americans could read these words and stop a minute >to think. > >Anyway, please take the time to drop by the site and check out a >perspective that you won't catch on CNN. Remember that ignorance, fear, and >hate are tools of control in the hands of the mighty. > >Check it out at: > >http://www.nr.infi.net/~chadnc/HouseOfChadula/pages/NewsTours.htm > > >Oh, and while you're at it - put on some music and dance! > >Peace- >Ben > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arthur Gadney" Subject: Stockhausen's answer Date: 24 Sep 2001 17:54:34 +0000 Hello. Does anybody have the link for the page where the full Stockhausen quote was mentioned, explaining that the terror act was the greatest piece of art "by LUCIFER". I need it, and it's a bit urgent so if anybody would please... :-) Thanks!!! AG BTW: The coverage Stockhausen is getting for this is incredible!!! He must be one of the most wellknown composers now. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Franz Fuchs" Subject: RE: Stockhausen's answer Date: 24 Sep 2001 21:06:22 +0200 > Does anybody have the link for the page where the full > Stockhausen quote was > mentioned, explaining that the terror act was the greatest > piece of art "by > LUCIFER". http://www.stockhausen.org/message_from_karlheinz.html > BTW: The coverage Stockhausen is getting for this is > incredible!!! He must > be one of the most wellknown composers now. Although he has become infamous rather than famous with his statements ;-) Regards Franz Fuchs - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AggregateMusic@aol.com Subject: Gregg Bendian's Interzone on Tour Date: 24 Sep 2001 23:06:16 EDT GREGG BENDIAN'S INTERZONE: "REQUIEM FOR JACK KIRBY" TOUR=20 Gregg Bendian, vibraphone/glockenspiel Nels Cline, guitar/steel guitar Alex Cline, drums/percussion Kermit Driscoll, acoustic & electric basses "Creative, challenging, intelligent fusion music is alive and well as long a= s=20 this subversive unit stays together." =20 (Bill Milkowski, JazzTimes) Atavistic recording artist, composer/vibraphonist Gregg Bendian has emerged=20 as one of the most exciting musicians fusing rock with jazz and classical=20 music. He has collaborated with many of the new music's strongest=20 personalities including Ornette Coleman, Cecil Taylor, Pat Metheny, Derek=20 Bailey, Gavin Bryars, John Zorn, Bill Frisell, Joe Lovano, Peter Brotzmann,=20 Richard Leo Johnson, Evan Parker and Roscoe Mitchell.=20 =20 Interzone's new disc is an epic jazz/rock/prog tribute to comic book=20 visionary Jack Kirby. Along with Stan Lee, Kirby is the mastermind behind=20 Marvel Comic's creation of The X-Men, The Fantastic Four, Silver Surfer, The= =20 Incredible Hulk, Thor, Iron Man and Captain America. Kirby's brilliantly=20 detailed illustrations have influenced everyone from Sonny Rollins and Paul=20 McCartney, to Francis Ford Coppola and Steven Spielberg. The music is at=20 once lyrical and blistering, and it evokes sci-fi opera on a grand scale. Bendian's "Interstellar Space Revisited: The Music of John Coltrane"=20 (w/guitarist Nels Cline) has received rave reviews for it's audacious and=20 brazenly noisy take on Coltrane's later music and has appeared on many annua= l=20 top CD lists. Most recently Gregg is featured on ex-Beefheart guitar legend= =20 Zoot Horn Rollo's first-ever-solo album, "We Saw A Bozo Under The Sea" on ZH= R=20 Records. =20 Interzone rarely tour, and this special line-up will present music from thei= r=20 first, eponymous disc along with tunes from "Myriad" and of course, "Requiem= =20 for Jack Kirby". Interzone features the explosive combination of Bendian=20 with the Brothers Cline (that's Nels on guitar & Alex on drums - both of who= m=20 worked with Juilius Hemphill & Bobby Bradford) and Kermit Driscoll, longtime= =20 bassist for Bill Frisell.=20 GREGG BENDIAN'S INTERZONE: "REQUIEM FOR JACK KIRBY" TOUR INTINERARY Wed Sept 26, 10pm Knitting Factory (yes, its open!) 74 Leonard St NYC (212)219-3006 www.knittingfactory.com Fri Sept 28, 9/10:30pm =20 Tritone 1508 South Street (at 15th) Philadelphia PA (215)727-2714 Sat Sept 29, 8pm =20 Orion Sound Studios 2903 Whittington Ave Baltimore MD (410)519-7612 www.progrock.net/shows/showcase/ Sun Sept 30, 8:30pm=20 Public Health Auditorium University of Pittsburgh=20 5th Ave & DeSoto St Pittsburgh PA=20 (412)422 8864 www.mit.telerama.com Mon Oct 1st, 8pm Big Orbit Art Gallery 30d Essex St Buffalo NY 14213 (716)883-3209 www.bigorbitgallery.com Tue Oct 2, 9pm Little Brothers 1630 N High St Columbus OH 43201 (614)294 5583 www.littlebrothers.com Wed Oct 3rd, 8pm Beachland Ballroom 15711 Waterloo Rd Cleveland OH 44110 (216)383-1124 www.beachlandballroom.com Thu Oct 4, 8pm =20 Schuba's =20 3159 N.Southport Chicago IL (773)384-8444 www.outremusic.com www.schubas.com Fri Oct 5 =20 Edgefest Clinic: 4pm Kerrytown Theatre 415 N 4th Ave Ann Arbor MI (734)769-2999 Performance: 10pm Firefly Club 207 S.Ashley Ann Arbor MI 48104 (734)769-2999 www.fireflyclub.com Sat Oct 6, 7:30pm=20 Milestones=20 107 East Avenue Rochester NY (716)271-6726 www.milestonesmusicroom.com Wed Oct 10th 8pm SOHO 1221 State St Santa Barbara CA (805)962-7776 www.sohosb.com Thu/Fri Oct 11/12th 10:30pm Rocco 6320 Santa Monica Blvd (btwn Vine & Lillian) Los Angeles CA www.roccoinla.com Sat Oct 13th 8pm Tuva Space 3192 Adeline (corner of MLK) Berkeley CA (510)655-9755 www.throatsinger.com Sun Oct 14th 8/9:30pm Caf=E9 DuNord 2170 Market St. San Francisco CA (415)861-5016 www.cafedunord.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeton Ademaj" Subject: crossposting a music article (deal with it) Date: 24 Sep 2001 23:06:06 -0400 hi everybody, thoughts...?: http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20010924/hl/music_brain_2.html Monday September 24 5:43 PM ET Study: Music Stimulates the Brain By PAUL RECER, AP Science Writer WASHINGTON (AP) - In a study that may explain why some people have a powerful emotional response to music, researchers have found that melodies can stimulate the same parts of the brain as food and sex. ``People now are using music to help them deal with sadness and fear,'' said Dr. Anne Blood, a researcher at Massachusetts General Hospital in Charlestown, Mass. ``We are showing in our study that music is triggering systems in the brain that makes them feel happy.'' Blood and her co-author, Robert Zatorre of McGill University in Montreal, used positron emission tomography, or PET scans, to find areas of the brain that are stimulated by music found so moving by the test subjects that it ``sent shivers down the spine.'' The researchers found that many of the brain structures activated by the euphoria of food or sex also are turned on by music. A report on the study appears Tuesday in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. ``In the reward and emotion systems of the brain, there are certain structures that are active,'' Blood said. This activity clearly shows up when patients are given PET scans at the same time they are experiencing the stimuli that produce euphoria. Previous studies have linked the midbrain, the ventral striatum and parts of the cortex to sex and food. The new study, Blood said, clearly shows a similar response in these areas to musical sounds that the test subjects had preselected as beautiful enough to give them ``chills.'' There was no such response, however, to other types of sound. Dr. Ira Glick, professor of psychiatry, Stanford University School of Medicine, said music ``is one way to cope'' in periods of stress, and it is known that ``behind every emotion and every piece of behavior there is a change in a molecule. ``With this new technology, the PET, for the first time we can see it,'' he said. ``It is exciting to see the biology unfold before our eyes as we explore the human mind.'' In the study, Blood and Zatorre asked 10 musicians, five men and five women, to pick out music whose beauty caused them to have ``chills.'' The subjects were then given PET scans as they listened to four types of audio stimuli - the selected music, other music, general noise or silence. Each sequence was repeated three times in random order. Blood said when the subjects heard the music that gave them ``chills,'' then the PET scans detected activity in the portions of the brain that are also stimulated by food and sex. Although the tested subjects were all musicians, Blood said that ``80 percent of people experience these chills'' from some types of music. ``The experience of chills is a very common phenomenon, and it is highly likely that the same (brain) structures would be active in other people,'' she said. Blood said the reaction to music is highly individualized and culturally based. She said this suggests that some people may react to rock 'n' roll in the same way that others are affected by Beethoven. ``Everyone has their own preferences'' in what evokes these chills, said the researcher. ``The brain activity is related to the chills and not to the type of music.'' The study suggests, Blood said, that ``we are born with the ability to appreciate a lot of different types of music. It is what we are exposed to that ends up having meaning for us.'' Just why humans developed such a biologically based appreciation of music is not clear. The appreciation of food and the drive for sex evolved to help the survival of the species, but ``music did not develop strictly for survival purposes,'' she said. ``Because it activates the parts the brain that makes us happy suggests that music benefits our physical and mental well-being,'' Blood said. - On the Net: Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences: http://www.eurekalert.org _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Herb Levy Date: 24 Sep 2001 22:20:36 -0500 Hi y'all, As usual, this program was produced several weeks prior to its scheduled airing on Antenna, so there's no conscious response to recent world events (though a few selections have a serendipitous relevance to the politics and/or crises of the moment). This week on Mappings , you'll hear music by Battuto, John Butcher & Derek Bailey, John Butcher & Rhodri Davies, Axel Dorner/Fred Lonberg-Holm/Michael Zerang, Double Double, Arnold Dreyblatt, Emergency Quartet, Mel Graves, Caroline Kraabel, Helmut Lachenmann, Steuart Liebig, Evan Parker/Barry Guy/Lawrence Casserley, Quatour Accorde, Rebecca Saunders, Space Between, Philipp Wachsmann, and Julia Wolfe. The show went online Monday evening around 10:00 PM (-0500 GMT) and will remain online at the above URL for a week. Last week's program (featuring works with literary texts including music by Robert Ashley, Nicolas Collins, Dave Douglas, Shelley Hirsch, Randolph Hostetler, Brenda Hutchinson, George E Lewis, Alvin Lucier, Ingram Marshall, Matthias Pintscher, Mikel Rouse, Kaija Saariaho, Tibor Szemz=F6 Saadet T=FCrk=F6z & Mark Vigil; AND texts by John Ashbery, Kamau Brathwaite, Charles Bukowski, Angela Carter, Paul Celan, Constance DeJong, Gunnar Ekel=F6f, Paul Eluard, B=E9la Hamvas, Nazim Hikmet, Naguib Mahfouz, Steve McCaffery, Snee McCaig, & Quincy Troupe) is still available in the Mappings archive , where you can also find play lists for the program since it began in March 1998. Hope you tune in to the program. Bests, Herb - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Sh" Subject: Tonic Trades? Date: 25 Sep 2001 00:43:23 -0400 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003F_01C1455B.14F49BC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Greetings. Anyone tape some of the tonic shows last week? I heard that = some of them were requested not to be taped, though not sure which. = Anwyway, really really interested in the Emergency and MMw shows, and = the Masada show. Drop me a line if anyone has a decent sounding copy = [even the stealthers]. I have an eclectic list for trade. Thanks. ------=_NextPart_000_003F_01C1455B.14F49BC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Greetings.  Anyone tape = some of the=20 tonic shows last week?  I heard that some of them were requested = not to be=20 taped, though not sure which.  Anwyway, really really interested in = the=20 Emergency and MMw shows, and the Masada show.  Drop me a line if = anyone has=20 a decent sounding copy [even the stealthers].  I have an eclectic = list for=20 trade.  Thanks.
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The signatures logged by the website above will be forwarded to >leaders around the world. It is imperative that we act quickly to prevent >war!!! Thank you. ...and another one...: >> >> thepetitionsite.com is popular for web-based petitions. In fact, >>there's: >> >> http://www.thePetitionSite.com/takeaction/224622495 >> >> right now, which is a WTC peace petition. >> >> >> >> Wendi Carlock, multimedium >> >> thePlant >> >> >> >> see thePlant grow >> >> http://theplantnow.com/ thanks _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ricardo Jorge" Subject: Hi! new guy! Date: 25 Sep 2001 11:10:16 +0000 Hi! I'm Ricardo From Portugal! I'm new on this list! And I love Mr Zorns work ! I must apollogise for my terrible english and I hope It offends no one! I'm most interested in trading out off print's and rare stuff reganding zorn, arto lindsay and Marc Ribot ! But I hope I learn more about these and other musiciens from you! _________________________________________________________________ Chegou o novo MSN Explorer. Instale já. É gratuito! http://explorer.msn.com.br - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: patRice Subject: The Residents LIVE Date: 25 Sep 2001 14:29:03 +0200 Hi y'all. Had the pleasure of seeing The Residents live for the first time last Sunday. I did expect a bit more of a "show" - but still I was happy I went to the gig. The current tour, still a few more dates in Europe, seems to be sort of a Greatest Hits thing. They project stuff from their new DVD onto a large screen and play the songs live to the video-clips. In Zurich, however, they had a huge technical problem. After about 45 or 60 minutes, the DVD-beamer stopped functioning... Still - if you like their music, catch them on this tour. patRice np: Kazue Sawai Ensemble, Live in Bremen 1983 nr: Timothy Clark, Ukiyo-e Paintings In The British Museum - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Franz Fuchs" Subject: RE: Stockhausen Date: 25 Sep 2001 20:52:06 +0200 Hello Tom, > I was wondering, do you have a link to the original Bild > article. I would > like to know how they used Stockhausen's statements. a search on http://www.bild.de yielded no result, although their archive goes back to '96 or '97. Could be possible that said article was published only in the print edition. It's interesting that Kathinka Pasveer initially directed her response towards a specific newspaper with an accordingly titled URL (http://www.stockhausen.org/reply_to_bild.html), but Stockhausen changed this for a second reply to http://www.stockhausen.org/message_from_karlheinz.html, in whose text he doesn't even mention "Bild" anymore, instead referring to "the journalist". I'm sceptical about the alleged "twisting" of Stockhausen's words by "Bild". Why would a tabloid, which is more or less disinterested in the Arts, send a journalist to a press conference of him? Neither respected "Sueddeutsche Zeitung" nor "Tageszeitung" mentioned a special involvement of "Bild". Here's an article by Swiss "Neue Zuercher Zeitung": http://archiv.nzz.ch/books/nzzmonat/0/$7NRFB$T.html. It reports that the statements concerning the WTC and Pentagon attacks were first made public by *radio broadcaster NDR*. Thereafter "Zeit"-Foundation called a crisis meeting with the participation of Culture Senator Christina Weiss, followed by the cancellation of Stockhausen's four concerts. Despite some vagueness, the "press history" of this whole affair hasn't been an issue in the German language coverage I have read. With one exception (http://www.heise.de/tp/deutsch/special/auf/9595/1.html), all comments were indignant towards Stockhausen words. Regards Franz Fuchs PS: I'm sending this to the whole Z-List. Maybe other members can provide additional information. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marcin Gokieli" Subject: Odp: wojciech has videos (No Zorn Content) Date: 26 Sep 2001 00:59:11 +0200 If you have trouble in getting his films, I could try to buy them for you here in Poland Marcin Gokieli marcin.gokieli@mospan.pl marcingokieli@go2.pl Generally speaking, if a philosopher offers to 'dissolve' the problem you are working on, tell him to go climb a tree - Jerry Fodor ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2001 3:50 AM > > Hello Zornies. > Someone knows a web site to find videos of the polish > director Wojciech Jerzy Has (or any other form to get > them)? > I see his films on a retrospective dedicated to him , > and I'm surprise.I love his films.I find 5 videos,but > I want moreˇ > Thanks. > > > _______________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Messenger: Comunicación instantánea gratis con tu gente - > http://messenger.yahoo.es > > - > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marcin Gokieli" Subject: Odp: Zorn List Digest V3 #573 Date: 26 Sep 2001 01:02:40 +0200 I just bought the disc. I find it really marvelous: it combines many aspects of DD's previous work, and has a beautiful untidy sound. Marcin Gokieli (extremally happy after a week of hard on my first film scoring project) > Are you refering to Witness, the new nine-piece ensemble project he just > released on RCA? - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JonAbbey2@aol.com Subject: Cor Fuhler/Gert-Jan Prins US tour dates Date: 25 Sep 2001 20:04:16 EDT here are the dates for an exciting tour which hasn't been cancelled by world events... october 6 @ The Flywheel, Easthampton USA THE FLIRTS october 7 @ Middle East, Cambridge, MA, USA , 3:30pm (doors at 3:00) THE FLIRTS october 9 @ Art Institute of Chicago, USA THE FLIRTS october 9 @ The Candlestick Maker, Chicago, USA, THE FLIRTS october 10 @ Empty Bottle, Chicago, USA THE FLIRTS october 11 @ Tonic, NO MUSIC FESTIVAL , New York, USA THE FLIRTS + guests I-Sound & Lee Ranaldo october 12 @ Tonic, NO MUSIC FESTIVAL , New York, USA Interplay sessions october 13 @ Tonic, NO MUSIC FESTIVAL , New York, USA Interplay sessions Jon www.erstwhilerecords.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orrick@earthlink.net Subject: Dorner/Kelly/Neumann/Rainey in St. Louis Date: 25 Sep 2001 22:13:35 -0500 A reminder to St Louis area listeners. Axel Doerner and Andrea Neumann with nmperign (Bhob Rainey and Greg Kelley) perform tomorrow (Wednesday) evening, 8:00 pm at The Forum for Contemporary Arts, 3540 Washington. This is a gallery across from the Fox theatre. There is more information about this show and others in the series at http://newmusiccircle.org Josh R. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hugo Linares" Subject: RE: Hi! new guy! Date: 26 Sep 2001 00:53:58 -0300 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C14625.B9EC7420 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Ricardo! Nobody in the Zorn List will be offended by your English, don't worry = about that! And be sure you will learn a lot of music from "Zornlisters". Welcome and enjoy it! Hugo Linares=20 ----- Mensaje original -----=20 De: Ricardo Jorge=20 Para: zorn-list@lists.xmission.com=20 Enviado: Martes 25 de Septiembre de 2001 08:10 AM Asunto: Hi! new guy! Hi! I'm Ricardo From Portugal! I'm new on this list! And I love Mr = Zorns=20 work ! I must apollogise for my terrible english and I hope It offends = no=20 one! I'm most interested in trading out off print's and rare stuff = reganding=20 zorn, arto lindsay and Marc Ribot ! But I hope I learn more about = these and=20 other musiciens from you! _________________________________________________________________ Chegou o novo MSN Explorer. Instale j=E1. =C9 gratuito!=20 http://explorer.msn.com.br - ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C14625.B9EC7420 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Nobody in the Zorn List will be offended by your English, don't = worry about=20 that!
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------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C14625.B9EC7420-- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ryan Novak Subject: Music is valuable! Date: 25 Sep 2001 22:24:48 -0700 (PDT) >``People now are using music to help them deal with >sadness and fear,'' said >Dr. Anne Blood, a researcher at Massachusetts General >Hospital in >Charlestown, Mass. ``We are showing in our study that >music is triggering >systems in the brain that makes them feel happy.'' Hi, Semi-interesting article, but why must we have scientists figure out how music affects us when we already know? Maybe if they can explain every feeling, we won't have to really feel anything- we can just look it up in some manual like a damn android. It's not like they found out that music kills brain cells- then we'd be surprised (although they would feel vindicated in Afghanistan apparently). It reminds me of the studies where it was suggested that students who played music were better at math. Because that's why I got into music- to improve my math scores. Maybe they can explain how sarcasm affects the brain. :~) And sorry, I don't mean offense to the person posting, I just got surprisingly charged up on this one. ---Ryan N. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dgasque@aol.com Subject: Re: Hi! new guy! Date: 26 Sep 2001 02:57:52 EDT Welcome to the list, Ricardo! Don't worry about your English here. You can bet it's better than our Portuguese!! -- =dg= - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Verstraeten Stefan" Subject: New Chadbourne en Carl Black releases (no zorn) Date: 26 Sep 2001 19:31:29 +0200 Hello Zorners, I know that there are some Captain Beefhart, Frank Zappa, Jimmy Carl Black en Eugene Chadbourne fans (Hello William York, all well I hope?)... Eugene Chadbourne just sent me three new releases (The taste of the leftovers-The early years-Tribute to jesse helms) that came out on the "Inkanish label", for me an unknown german label (apparently a cdr label). All three releases are by "the jack and jim show", the duo by Chadbourne (guitar) and Carl Black (drums). You may or may not know that they already have three other releases: two on the "fire ant" label and one on the "house of chadula". These new three releases are i.m.o. very good records and a good introduction to chadbourne as well. No hard experimental stuff, no long banjo-scapes (does this word exist anyway)... but all three-four minute songs by zappa, beefhart, tim buckley, willy nelson, jefferson airplane,... Anyway, these three releases show a two man band that are in great shape, have tremendous skills, play songs with a funny twist.... and last but not least... play very accessible music. Great releases for completists as well as beginners or people who have some money to spend..... If you want to order these babies, I would suggest that you contact Carl Black at: JimmyCarlBlack@t-online.de Best wishes, Stefan Verstraeten Stefan.Verstraeten@belgacom.net n.p. one of these crazy cassette letters by derek bailey - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Julian" Subject: "Music Of John Zorn" Date: 27 Sep 2001 14:04:12 +1000 Hey, just thought I'd let you guys know about a show coming up this Monday in Sydney - "Music Of John Zorn", presented by 'Pitch', and featuring the Germ Theory Trio and Yetnikov Trio from Melbourne, plus guests. Not so much a tribute, rather a chance to just play some of Zorn's music and have a bit of fun. Including pieces from Masada, Naked City, Filmworks, Spy Vs. Spy and more... @ La Bar, 231 Oxford St. Darlinghurst Monday 1st October 7.30pm, $8. See you, Julian. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RadioGong@aol.com Subject: Chadbourne w/ Zorn 5/7/81 question Date: 27 Sep 2001 09:41:43 EDT I was listening to this great show last night, but noticed that there was way too much noise reduction done on it, which gives it an underwater sounding sound. Does anyone have a copy for trade that has the tape hiss and no noise reduction? Many thanx. Ray 07/05/81 Kent State Univ SBD A-- CDR 63' w/The Chadbournes & Tom Cora - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Vincent Kargatis / Anne Larson" Subject: Re: large mainstream online buying Date: 27 Sep 2001 16:44:41 +0300 Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 11:08 PM > I've historically gone with cdconnection.com for almost all of my large > mainstream-music orders (stuff that these big stores have, 20+ cd orders), > because their prices were competitive and shipping free. But for some > reason many of the prices there for records on my current list are quite > high, so cdc is out this round. But what are the other cheap options - > places like cdnow can really gitcha on shipping. cheap-cds.com seems an > option Didn't get much response to this, but oh well. I ended up trying cheap-cds, although they were out of random items (not listed below), here's my order sample - seems a good value if they have what you want (note they allow only 9 items max per order and that real cost is upped by the handling charge): StkCode Artist Title List Cost 54NJT2 WAGON CHRIST MUSIPAL 15.98 11.50 7953922 ANDERSON,LAURIE LIFE ON A STRING 18.98 11.76 1PIA2 SIGUR ROS AGAETIS BYRJUN 17.98 12.80 10423ASW2 BASEMENT JAXX ROOTY 16.98 11.99 6267652 STEREOLAB SOUND-DUST 18.98 11.76 54738262 KUTI,FELA ORIGINAL SUFFER HEA 17.98 11.99 5CLN2 DO MAKE SAY THINK DO MAKE SAY THINK 13.98 10.15 6265352 BJORK VESPERTINE 18.98 11.81 84WRP2 PLAID DOUBLE FIGURE 15.98 11.50 09-06-01 00:29:35 Sub-Total 155.82 105.26 Shipping 2.97 Handling 12.87 Total Paid 121.10 [avg: $13.45 total/each] This one has some multiples: 9075232 GRESS,DREW SPIN & DRIFT 16.98 11.99 428MAT2 POLE 3 16.98 11.99 860921ISP2 COUP GENOCIDE & JUICE 11.98 7.58 291KFW2 REDDY,ROB SEEING BY THE LIGHT 15.98 11.95 6028NYC2 STEPS (AHEAD) COLLECTION/STEP BY 24.98 16.55 3047432 HARRISON,GEORGE ALL THINGS MUST PAS 26.98 18.20 50316VIR2 KRAVITZ,LENNY GREATEST HITS 18.98 12.89 611GRP2 BASIE,COUNT COMPLETE DECCA RECO 38.98 27.34 09-09-01 08:11:35 Sub-Total 171.84 118.49 Shipping 2.97 Handling 13.12 Total Paid 134.58 Anyway, just for your statistical information. Anyone know of other places that could produce a similar list/total/avg? -- Vincent Kargatis np: Parliament - "Wizard of Finance" (Funkentelechy vs Placebo Syndr) (np auto-generated with http://www.oddsock.org/tools/dosomething/) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: Re: large mainstream online buying Date: 27 Sep 2001 11:25:32 -0400 > I've historically gone with cdconnection.com > cheap-cds.com seems an option I tried cheap-cds once and the order came through fine. The catch, though, is that they add a $1.43 "handling fee" to every single item in addition to a shipping charge so their prices aren't as low as they seem initially. CD Connection I highly recomend for mainstream/midlevel items but for imports and really tiny labels you should compare first. (Though they have most of those nice British Proper Records boxes at $25 each.) And if the order is over $100 the UPS shipping is free. I've done several orders with some pretty obscure items and always got everything ordered. Lang - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James Hale Subject: A view of the NYC Downtown scene Date: 27 Sep 2001 11:31:11 -0400 This week's Village Voice has an article on the Downtown scene in the wake of Sept. 11. You can view it in the Music section at the Voice's site: www.villagevoice.com James Hale - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Keffer Subject: Follow-Up: Chronoscope availability Date: 28 Sep 2001 07:09:20 -0400 About two weeks ago, I asked if the Evan Parker solo records that were reissued in 1999 on Chronoscope have already gone out of print. Several of you gave me some suggestions to pursue on-line. For that, thanks. I have followed each of these suggestions up and now I can pass along to the list that: The Evan Parker solo records that were reissued in 1999 on Chronoscope (Saxophone Solos and Monoceros) are no longer available. Although several online vendors show them in their catalog, they are not in stock. From a philosophical perspective, the purpose of reissues is to make more widely available a release that has gone out of circulation. A limited-release reissue is hard to understand... David K. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: wlt4@mindspring.com Subject: Re: Follow-Up: Chronoscope availability Date: 28 Sep 2001 10:09:01 -0400 >the purpose of reissues is to make more widely >available a release that has gone out of circulation. >A limited-release reissue is hard to understand... Well the reissues did make these more widely available: How much harder or more expensive would it have been to find an LP? At least now somebody can make a CD-R for you (something I would never support for an in-print release). - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Patrice L. Roussel" Subject: Re: Follow-Up: Chronoscope availability Date: 28 Sep 2001 08:19:50 -0700 On Fri, 28 Sep 2001 07:09:20 -0400 David Keffer wrote: > > >From a philosophical perspective, > the purpose of reissues is to make more widely > available a release that has gone out of circulation. > A limited-release reissue is hard to understand... But with this kind of music, are not all the releases kind of limited ones? I, on the other side, find it miraculous that records with a potential audience less that a thousand can be reissued. There is no business sense behing that, just passion (and maybe the naive belief that on the reissue more people will take the risk of checking it...). Patrice. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peruvian Night Train" Subject: Dave Douglas - Seattle date added! (Sun, 10/7/01) Date: 28 Sep 2001 09:38:05 -0700 PeruviaNighTrain Productions and Wall of Sound are very proud to present the *highly* acclaimed trumpeter of John Zorn's Masada, among countless other projects, with his latest band --> * DAVE DOUGLAS' WITNESS * SUNDAY, OCTOBER 7, 2001 @ the * SIT & SPIN * - Seattle, WA -- located at -- 2219 4th Ave. (between Bell and Blanchard) club phone: 206.441.9484 $12 dos & adv. (tickets currently avail. at ticketweb.com & avail. starting Sat. 9/29 at Wall of Sound -- located at 2nd & Bell -- with no added service charge! =) [Wall of Sound hrs: 11-7 Mon - Sat / 12-5 Sun.] doors 8pm / show 9pm / 21+ (beer/wine/liquor) key links: http://www.davedouglas.com http://www.sitandspin.net http://www.ticketweb.com * Feat. an all-star downtown NYC lineup! * Dave Douglas (trumpet, electronics) with: -- Chris Speed : tenor sax, clarinet -- http://www.chrisspeed.com -- Jamie Saft : keyboards -- http://www.jamiesaft.com -- Craig Taborn : keyboards -- (Carl Craig/Innerzone Orchestra, James Carter, Bill Laswell, etc.) -- Brad Jones : bass -- (Marc Ribot Y Los Cubanos Postizos, Jazz Passengers, Elvin Jones, etc.) -- Ikue Mori : electronic percussion -- (for more, search http://www.allmusic.com) -- Michael Sarin : drums -- (for more, search http://www.allmusic.com) FLASH --> Just published WITNESS review in the NY TIMES: A Syncopated Laptop Joins the Combo September 26, 2001 / By BEN RATLIFF "The trumpeter Dave Douglas seems like the first jazz musician in New York who's trying to integrate jazz played on a high level with electronic improvisation...." - article link: (paste into browser) http://www.nytimes.com/2001/09/26/arts/music/26DOUG.html?ex=10025567 07&ei=1&en=50553c6e2e67c0f0 Dave Douglas' latest recording project, WITNESS, was released by RCA/Bluebird on August 21, 2001. Perhaps his most ambitious recording to date, it features twelve musicians, including guest appearances by Yuka Honda and Tom Waits. Inspired by creative political statement, the music navigates an area between contemporary, electronic, world music, and jazz, bringing together many strands of Dave's music. Regarding the inspirations behind WITNESS, Dave himself says -- "Angered by a newspaper article on the rising fortunes of weapon makers during the NATO war on Yugoslavia, I decided to write music celebrating positive protest against the misuse of money and power.Each piece is inspired by and dedicated to artists and activists who have creatively challenged authority, sometimes endangering their own lives, but inspiring the rest of us to resist." This is truly a rare opportunity to catch Dave Douglas and his superb WITNESS band in the confines of a small and great-sounding club -- so get your tickets now, before they possibly sell out! And if you have any questions: ======= Seattle contact / press liason: James ~ 206.664.1086 peruvianightrain@home.com ------- Dave Douglas' management: http://www.sooyaarts.com ======= - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ken Waxman Subject: Re: Follow-Up: Chronoscope availability Date: 28 Sep 2001 13:55:51 -0400 (EDT) Patrice: How 'bout changing the sentence to: "I, on the other side, find it miraculous that > records with a potential > audience less that a thousand can be *issued*" If a disc with limited appeal can come out once --and there's no reason it shouldn't -- than why not put it out again? Ken Waxman --- "Patrice L. Roussel" wrote: > > On Fri, 28 Sep 2001 07:09:20 -0400 David Keffer > wrote: > > > > >From a philosophical perspective, > > the purpose of reissues is to make more widely > > available a release that has gone out of > circulation. > > A limited-release reissue is hard to understand... > > But with this kind of music, are not all the > releases kind of limited ones? > > I, on the other side, find it miraculous that > records with a potential > audience less that a thousand can be reissued. There > is no business sense > behing that, just passion (and maybe the naive > belief that on the reissue > more people will take the risk of checking it...). > > Patrice. > > - > _______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Patrice L. Roussel" Subject: Re: Follow-Up: Chronoscope availability Date: 28 Sep 2001 11:05:04 -0700 On Fri, 28 Sep 2001 13:55:51 -0400 (EDT) Ken Waxman wrote: > > Patrice: > > How 'bout changing the sentence to: > > "I, on the other side, find it miraculous that > > records with a potential > > audience less that a thousand can be *issued*" In fact no. I really meant "reissued" because most of the records in this field will never be reissued (and we will never know about the ones which have never been issued :-). I see more miracle in the reissue process than in the first issue (thinking not from an artistic point of view, of course, but from a business point of view). Artistically, yes the ones we love and long for reissue were artistic miracles. No doubt about that. Here is my list of my top longing records for reissue: MICHAEL NYMAN: Michael Nyman (Piano) WIPE OUT: Amalgam (Impetus) LUDWIG VAN: Mauricio Kagel (DG) ACOUSTICA: Mauricio Kagel (DG) STAATTHEATER: Mauricio Kagel (DG) LIVE IN CHATEAUVALLON: Michel Portal Unit (Chants du Monde) OP STAP: Marten Altena (Klaxon) SPIRIT REJOICE: Louis Moholo (Ogun) N' TANGO FUR GITTI: Ulrich Gumpert (FMP) COMPOSITIONS: Globe Unity (Japo) LIVE IN WUPPERTAL: Globe Unity (FMP) LIVE IN SONCINO: Instant Composer Pool Orchestra (?) MAMA CHICAGO: Mike Westbrook Brass Band (RCA) LIVE AT CHAPELLE DES LOMBARDS: Mike Westbrook Brass Band (Polydor) RA1+2: Evan Parker, Paul Lytton (Ring) > If a disc with limited appeal can come out once --and > there's no reason it shouldn't -- than why not put it > out again? Simply because the person who put it out might realize that there is a reason why it did not sell in the first place... Patrice. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Acousticlv@aol.com Subject: Zorn does Cobra-sat 9/29- LAST MINUTE Date: 29 Sep 2001 14:42:15 EDT In a message dated 9/29/01 10:46:45 AM, dmg@panix.com writes: Yo yo yo - word up, Andy Statman has canceled his 10 pm set at Tonic tonite due to illness and our main man John Zorn will prompt (conduct) a version of his challenging game piece "Cobra" in that 10pm slot! The Cobra piece is always both fun and demanding to watch from the audience and to play for the 10-13 or so players involved. At 8pm, Mr. Zorn will perform the music for 'Filmworks IX & X' at Tonic. Both of these piece are incredibly haunting and beautiful and not what some might expect from the constantly changing composer. Be there or be square if you can!!!!-BLG Downtown Music Gallery Telephone: 212-473-0043 211 East 5th Street Fax: 212-533-5059 New York, NY 10003-8520 Email: dmg@panix.com USA Web: www.dtmgallery.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Smith" Subject: Dave Douglas Witness - sextet version Date: 29 Sep 2001 15:07:06 -0400 Hi all: Someone asked recently about a sextet version of Dave Douglas's Witness band that was about to hit the road. An excellent review from the New York Times last week reveals the members: Douglas, Chris Potter (subbing for Chris Speed), Jamie Saft, Ikue Mori, Brad Jones, Michael Sarin. The review emphasized that with this project, Douglas has become the first jazz musician to meet the electronic micro-prov scene head on, and successfully, at that. E-mail me privately if you want to see it. Steve Smith ssmith36@sprynet.com NP - Bernstein, Symphony No. 2 "The Age of Anxiety," Bernstein, BSO/Koussevitzky (BSO) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeton Ademaj" Subject: Music/Science/Laswell (no Zorn yet) Date: 29 Sep 2001 16:35:58 -0400 Hi List: glad to see some reaction to the article. As for getting charged up, there's prolly lotsa room fer analysis of the reasons why...personally, i feel we should try to make better peace with the inevitable intersections of human activity that were once less distinguishable, like science/music/religion/art/politics. i see similiar revulsion at the proto-science of sociobiology, given it's non-scientific cooptation by 19th, 20th and now? 21st century extremist politics. eventually science will be turned to larger questions that offend, and whether we becomes androids as a result is largely up to us individually.... speaking of floating (not quite flying) fur, am I the only person pissed that Laswell canceled his appearance at friday's Tonic benefit (he was the ostensible headliner)? I mean, aside from that thing with jah wobble, Laswell has canceled every gig he's booked in nyc for like the last year. i'm as indulgent as anyone of my fave artists foibles, but c'mon, this shit is pretty disrespectful already! Jeton >``People now are using music to help them deal with >sadness and fear,'' said >Dr. Anne Blood, a researcher at Massachusetts General >Hospital in >Charlestown, Mass. ``We are showing in our study that >music is triggering >systems in the brain that makes them feel happy.'' Hi, Semi-interesting article, but why must we have scientists figure out how music affects us when we already know? Maybe if they can explain every feeling, we won't have to really feel anything- we can just look it up in some manual like a damn android. It's not like they found out that music kills brain cells- then we'd be surprised (although they would feel vindicated in Afghanistan apparently). It reminds me of the studies where it was suggested that students who played music were better at math. Because that's why I got into music- to improve my math scores. Maybe they can explain how sarcasm affects the brain. :~) And sorry, I don't mean offense to the person posting, I just got surprisingly charged up on this one. - ---Ryan N. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ryan Novak Subject: Re: Re-Issues Date: 29 Sep 2001 20:14:50 -0700 (PDT) > > >From a philosophical perspective, > > the purpose of reissues is to make more widely > > available a release that has gone out of > circulation. > > A limited-release reissue is hard to understand... > > But with this kind of music, are not all the > releases kind of limited ones? > > I, on the other side, find it miraculous that > records with a potential > audience less that a thousand can be reissued. There > is no business sense > behing that, just passion (and maybe the naive > belief that on the reissue > more people will take the risk of checking it...). I was not around for most of the original "issues" of a lot of classic records so I get rather frustrated about their unavailability. Some of the best stuff I've heard from Brotzmann I got off Napster from some kind soul/souls who had digitized some of the B/Van Hove/Bennink LPs (Balls, Tschus, etc). And yet there is a CD re-issue of Nipples which doesn't totally turn my crank (or twist my nipples!). But, I'd tend to think reissues can often do better than the original releases because they are now more easily put into "historical perspective". Very helpful in hyping up the album, plus people tend to be more intrigued about certain things after some authority, in this case maybe only the test of time, confirms its relevance. But, "Balls" would make a nice reissue companion for Nipples so I'm hopeful. I have to speak from a perspective of a Brotzmann fan, because it's what I know best, but I'm sure it's frustrating for everyone interested in this kind of thing, especially us young ones who never even got a chance to hear the LPs. :~( --Ryan N. (listening now to a burned copy of the not even old Gustafsson/Drake OoP "For Don Cherry"- thanks Mike) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fred fred Subject: SoundList - Toronto-area experimental music list Date: 30 Sep 2001 00:18:54 -0700 (PDT) JOIN SoundList! SoundList is an E-mailing list for announcements of events involving experimental music, free improvisation, sound art, electroacoustic music, new concert music, sound poetry or sound sculpture in (or near) Toronto, Canada. SoundList already has more than 600 subscribers. It is moderated and the traffic is low-volume: announcements are compiled and posted weekly. The E-mail addresses of subscribers are treated as strictly confidential. To subscribe, visit http://audiolab.uwaterloo.ca/~soundlst/ It's free. Please forward this message to any potentially interested individual or forum. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "francesco martinelli" Subject: Chronoscope ARE availabile Date: 30 Sep 2001 08:00:40 +0200 > The Evan Parker solo records that were reissued in 1999 > on Chronoscope (Saxophone Solos and Monoceros) are no > longer available. Although several online vendors show > them in their catalog, they are not in stock. They are in most of the specialists shops in London (Mole and Ray's for sure). Sound 323, the new and friendly shop for new music, had one s/h too. If you want them, please email Mark at sound323@aol.com (tell'em I sent ya) Francesco - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rob Allaert Subject: Zorn's the Gift @ Barbican Date: 30 Sep 2001 12:55:38 +0200 I just saw on Dave Douglas' website that "The Gift" is playing at the Barbican. Does anyone have some more info about this concert? greetings, Rob @ risk - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pm.carey@utoronto.ca (PMC) Subject: Non-Zorn: Sale list this way Date: 30 Sep 2001 08:21:53 +0100 Hi all, Selling a few rare (and not so rare) LPs and CDs ... Artists include A.N.P., Alboth!, Asmus Tietchens, Aube, Carl Stone, Monde Bruits, Muslimgauze, Sigillum S, Soundlab, SPK & more. If interested, please email for the full list. Thanks -Patrick pm.carey@utoronto.ca - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JonAbbey2@aol.com Subject: PROMO: Konk Pack US tour dates Date: 30 Sep 2001 20:11:19 EDT Konk Pack, the trio of Thomas Lehn, Tim Hodgkinson and Roger Turner, have just released their second disc on Grob and are touring the US for a month behind it. here's the tour schedule, complete with tentative dates. please forward it on to anyone who might be interested; many of these shows were set up on very short notice. also, please don't e-mail me any questions, since not only does this mail contain all of my knowledge about the tour, but I'm in Germany until 10/8, and quite possibly won't see your mail until after I return. there's more info at www.churchofgrob.com. go if you can; Thomas Lehn is one of the most exciting improv musicians in the world today. if you're at the Knit on the 8th, come say hi: I'll be there, thoroughly jetlagged. KONK PACK TOUR DATES, VENUES & TIMES 3rd october CHICAGO Empty Bottle 10:00pm 4th ANN ARBOR Edgefest Firefly Club, 10pm 5th BARD COLLEGE exact venue/time unknown 6th BOSTON The Institute of Contemporary Art. 955 Boylston St. start 8pm 7th NYC Williamsburg (?) 8th NYC Knitting Factory, main room, 8pm (one show only) 10th BALTIMORE The Red Room at Normals Books and Records. 425 E. 31St Street Baltimore start 8:30-9:00PM (more likely 9PM) 11th CARRBORO Skylight Exchange, 405 1/2 Rosemary St, in Chapel Hill. start 9pm Alliance for Improvised Music (AIM) 12th ATLANTA Venue: Earthshaking Music. 543 Stokeswood Avenue. 404-577-0707. Showtime: Between 8:30pm-9pm. $8 at the door. 13th BIRMINGHAM The Nick 2514 10th Ave south - Birmingham. Curlew starting at 7:30 and KONK going on around 9:00. 14th NASHVILLE Ruby Green Contemporary Arts Foundation 514 5th Ave. South Nashville, TN (615) 244-7179 start around 8:30. 15th ST LOUIS The Forum for Contemporary Art, 3540 Washington. Start of concert time.-- 8:00 16th CHATTANOOGA waiting details 18th N ORLEANS (8:00pm) at Zeitgeist Multi-Disciplinary Arts Center 1724 Oretha Castle Haley Boulevard New Orleans, LA 504.525.2767 19th HOUSTON 8pm. venue unknown 20th AUSTIN 8pm. venue unknown 22nd ALBURQUERQUE OUTPOST PERFORMANCE SPACE: 210 YALE SE Start of concert time. 7:30PM 25th TUCSON SOLAR CULTURE GALLERY E. TOOLE AV. TUCSON, AZ. 85701 Start of concert time. - 9:00 26th SAN DIEGO Spruce Street Forum 302 Spruce ST. SAn Diego, CA 92103. start at 8 pm 27th LA waiting details 28th SF Tuvaspace time/address unknown NOV 1st PORTLAND The Old Church 1422 SW 11th Ave. (downtown Portland). 8p.m. showtime NOV 2nd SEATTLE Studio Theater of On The Boards, 100 W. Roy, Seattle, WA 98119 start at 8:pm Jon www.erstwhilerecords.com -