From: owner-ztt-digest@lists.xmission.com (ztt-digest) To: ztt-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: ztt-digest V2 #15 Reply-To: ztt-digest Sender: owner-ztt-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-ztt-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes ztt-digest Tuesday, January 27 1998 Volume 02 : Number 015 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 07:58:02 -0500 From: rsystem2@juno.com (Jeff A Hamilton) Subject: (ztt) daft (don't mean to bore anyone) So this is the "daft" tracklist: 1. Love (7.00) 2. A Time For Fear (Who's Afraid) (4.45) 3. Beat Box (Diversion One) (8.31) 4. The Army Now (2.03) 5. Donna (1.44) 6. Memento (2.12) 7. How To Kill (2.42) 8. Realisation (1.44) 9. Who's Afraid (Of The Art Of Noise) (4.21) 10. Moments In Love (10.17) 11. Bright Noise (0.05) 12. Flesh In Armour (1.23) 13. Comes And Goes (1.18) 14. Snapshot (2.34) 15. Close (To The Edit) (5.37) 16. (Three Fingers Of) Love (4.44) 17. Close Up (Hop) (5.13) I just mailed it to someone, and while I was typing it up, I thought what the heck is the sense in this track order? Definitely not the way I would have done it. And if anything, "(Diversion One)", "Close (To The Edit)" (the LP version), and "Moments In Love" (the EP/LP version) should never appear on anything else. Never! That's nearly 25 minutes which could be used for remixes! Just a thought... Jeff _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 09:16:59 -0500 From: rsystem2@juno.com (Jeff A Hamilton) Subject: (ztt) daft clarification Boaz Halachmi said >>> Just to mention that this is the JP issue track listing. The Close-up(hop) is a bonus track. <<< Thanks for clarifying - I keep forgetting that it was an import (cost me nearly 40 bucks!!) 'cause it's the only one I have. Of course, for those of you that have the American (or British?) version - - don't kill yourself to get the Japanese version, the bonus track isn't all that good. Jeff Hamilton, the Capitalist P.O.Box 550501, Northside Finance Unit, Atlanta, Georgia 30355-3001 United Bloody States of America www.oneofthesedaysI'mputtingupawebsite.com _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 13:04:45 +0000 From: Ian Peel Subject: Re: (ztt) The Art Of Noise, continued >On the subject of remixes, I may have to do one of those too (to keep >from having to listen to another dance mix CD of the artist formerly >known as AoN). Here's an idea... (although I'm not sure how well it will be received, given the list's views on not dancing on AoN grave...) How about an AoN remix competition? A label (China?) throws down the gauntlet to make the definitive AoN remix, with the best 10 (20?) getting released on (yet-another!) tribute compilation... How many people on the list would be up for something like that?! Ian Peel - --- ---- > read.me in: 4D - THE TIMES' WEB MAGAZINE (www.4-d.co.uk)... DJ MAGAZINE (www.gla.ac.uk/Acad/Vet/VIE/people/thomas/Underworld/)... ON MAGAZINE (www.state51.co.uk/on/ianpeel.html)... ROUGH GUIDES (www.roughguides.com/rock/index.html)... and MY BOOK - FUTURE VISIONS (www.compbook.co.uk/promo/netguides/) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 10:37:05 EST From: The Mgnt Subject: Re: (ztt) The Art Of Noise, continued > Here's an idea... (although I'm not sure how well it will be received, > given the list's views on not dancing on AoN grave...) How about an AoN > remix competition? A label (China?) throws down the gauntlet to make > the definitive AoN remix, with the best 10 (20?) getting released on > (yet-another!) tribute compilation... How many people on the list would > be up for something like that?! Seeing as Drum & Bass and FON are both remix cds, not at all. Now, if AON got together to remix their own stuff... (incidently, i read somewhere that they rarely, if ever, remixed. They recorded whole new versions for the 12" and 7"s) - -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 23:59:36 -0500 From: rsystem2@juno.com (Jeff A Hamilton) Subject: (ztt) daft forever On Sat, 24 Jan 1998 08:09:55 -0800 (PST) mike@hyperreal.org pointed out: >>> Daft is also missing "moment in love" <<< Yes, how did I miss that? A short piece, yes (but it's longer than "Battle"!). Was it on anything other than the "Into Battle" EP - I can't recall. Jeff _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 09:40:45 -0500 From: dveith@jmct.com (Doug Veith) Subject: (ztt) Claudia Brucken - unreleased material I noticed a while ago that Lazlo's ZTT discography mentioned that there was an unreleased Claudia album called "Plastic and Physical" or "Physical and Plastic." While we're talking about released material from the vault over the internet, I have two questions: 1) Anybody have any info on this? 2) Would anybody (aside from me) be interested in seeing this re-released in limited form? Ja. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 17:04:31 +0100 From: Andy Robinson Subject: Re: (ztt) daft (don't mean to bore anyone) Jeff A Hamilton wrote: > So this is the "daft" tracklist... > ...6. Memento (2.12) This is (AFAIK) the only thing on "Daft" that you dont get anywhere else. On "Whos afraid of..." it's only 59 seconds long, from memory. - - andy R. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 08:09:55 -0800 (PST) From: mike@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (ztt) daft! > >>> By the way, is the Daft collection worth getting on cd > [...] it's the only way to get the "Into Battle" music on CD (with the > exception of - I've said it a dozen times in the past 48 hours - > "Battle" and "Beatbox") Daft is also missing "moment in love" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 19:44:38 -0600 From: lucid Subject: (ztt) Help... I just subscribed to the list today. I was wondering if anyone could give me some info on the band Instinct that was on ZTT (well... I have 1 song). Did they do anything else? Are they doing anything now? Also, is there anywhere I can get a copy of the "Value of Entertainment" video from eons ago? And 1 more thing... old Propaganda CD singles (I have the albums). Thanks for the time... G. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 10:27:33 -0700 (MST) From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: Re: (ztt) daft (don't mean to bore anyone) >> So this is the "daft" tracklist... >> ...6. Memento (2.12) > > This is (AFAIK) the only thing on "Daft" that you dont get anywhere > else. On "Whos afraid of..." it's only 59 seconds long, from memory. You're thinking of "Snapshot", which is usually 1:00 on "Who's Afraid" (except for that weird Japanese version with "Closely, Closely" on it). - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ::: Internet Music Wantlists: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Wantlists # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 16:13:53 -0700 (MST) From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: (ztt) Help... > I just subscribed to the list today. I was wondering if anyone could give me > some info on the band Instinct that was on ZTT (well... I have 1 song). Did > they do anything else? All Instinct ever issued on ZTT was "Swamp Out" (from the Sampled compilation) and the performances on the Value Of Entertainment video. I don't think they released anything after leaving/being dumped by ZTT, but you should know that Instinct formed out of the ashes of Pigbag, who have quite a number of releases out there. - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ::: Internet Music Wantlists: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Wantlists # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 18:00:39 -0800 From: "Mark Wasiel" Subject: (ztt) ztt advertisments Hello Zang-ers. I'm looking for any ZTT advertisements from magazines, newspapers, etc. I love the old ZTT ads and I've scanned the one I have and put them up on my web page: http://www.pcmagic.net/markw Just click on the ZTT ADS button near the bottom of the page. If you have any I don't, send them to me please! Thanks, Mark Wasiel # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 17:04:31 +0100 From: Andy Robinson Subject: Re: (ztt) daft (don't mean to bore anyone) Jeff A Hamilton wrote: > So this is the "daft" tracklist... > ...6. Memento (2.12) This is (AFAIK) the only thing on "Daft" that you dont get anywhere else. On "Whos afraid of..." it's only 59 seconds long, from memory. - - andy R. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 08:09:55 -0800 (PST) From: mike@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (ztt) daft! > >>> By the way, is the Daft collection worth getting on cd > [...] it's the only way to get the "Into Battle" music on CD (with the > exception of - I've said it a dozen times in the past 48 hours - > "Battle" and "Beatbox") Daft is also missing "moment in love" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 23:37:05 -0500 From: rsystem2@juno.com (Jeff A Hamilton) Subject: (ztt) Into Battle With The Art Of Noise On Sat, 24 Jan 1998 08:09:55 -0800 (PST) mike@hyperreal.org writes: >Daft is also missing "moment in love" All the more reason why Island or ZTT or whoever needs to reissue "Into Battle". Jeff _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 23:34:25 -0500 From: rsystem2@juno.com (Jeff A Hamilton) Subject: (ztt) Snapshot vs. Momento On Mon, 26 Jan 1998 17:04:31 +0100 Andy Robinson writes: > ...6. Memento (2.12) >This is (AFAIK) the only thing on "Daft" that you dont get anywhere else. On "Whos afraid of..." it's only 59 seconds long, from memory. I think I said it before - and Lazlo just said it earlier today - "Memento" is being mistaken for "Snapshot", which is a minute long on the American "Afraid" album and two and a half minutes long on the British "Afraid" album. "Momento" is the same on "daft" as it is on "Afraid" (even though the listed times differ by two seconds, right?). Jeff Hamilton, the Capitalist P.O.Box 550501, Northside Finance Unit, Atlanta, Georgia 30355-3001 United Bloody States of America www.oneofthesedaysI'mputtingupawebsite.com _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 19:44:38 -0600 From: lucid Subject: (ztt) Help... I just subscribed to the list today. I was wondering if anyone could give me some info on the band Instinct that was on ZTT (well... I have 1 song). Did they do anything else? Are they doing anything now? Also, is there anywhere I can get a copy of the "Value of Entertainment" video from eons ago? And 1 more thing... old Propaganda CD singles (I have the albums). Thanks for the time... G. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 07:59:42 -0500 From: MIKE_REARDON@HP-Andover-om3.om.hp.com Subject: (ztt) Re: Claudia's unreleased material dveith@jmct.com wrote: >I noticed a while ago that Lazlo's ZTT discography mentioned that >there was an unreleased Claudia album called "Plastic and Physical" >or "Physical and Plastic." >While we're talking about released material from the vault over the >internet, I have two questions: >1) Anybody have any info on this? >2) Would anybody (aside from me) be interested in seeing this >re-released in limited form? >Ja. 1 - I don't have any additional info on this, but; 2 - I'd very much like to see this released (I don't think it'd be a case of re-releasing, since it's never come out that I'm aware of.) I would pretty much pay whatever was necessary to get a copy of this Given how difficult it is to obtain the "official" Claudia CD, as well as the rarity of the Act CD, it would seem that there could be some money to be made by a label to re-release this material. With some useful marketing push, this stuff could actually become popular. Whenever I listen to either of these CD's I'm amazed at how fresh they still sound, years after their release. Lord knows that record companies are spending enough of their marketing dollars trying to convince us that their new material is worth listening to. BTW, if anyone has an extra copy of either Laughter, Tears & Rage or Love and Million Other Things that they're willing to sell, please let me know. My copies have actually started to skip because I've played them so much. I have an extra copy of the Kiss Like Ether CD single that I'm willing to trade. Thanks; Mike # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ End of ztt-digest V2 #15 ************************