From: owner-ztt-digest@lists.xmission.com (ztt-digest) To: ztt-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: ztt-digest V2 #115 Reply-To: ztt-digest Sender: owner-ztt-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-ztt-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes ztt-digest Monday, June 21 1999 Volume 02 : Number 115 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 20:47:17 EDT From: Zteven@aol.com Subject: Re: (ztt) Propagandas new release??????? In a message dated 6/18/99 6:40:05 PM, Joe.Pind@bankamerica.com writes: << When will the new Propaganda album be released? Any word of another Claudia solo project? Will they (or she)ever tour the U.S.?Can anyone answer any or all of these questions?....thank you,Joe >> The last thing I heard was a late summer/early fall tentative release for the new album. (Can't remember where I heard that.. Might've been on this list...?) I keep checking the Eastwest Records website looking for info, but nothing... Claudia stated in a (relatively) recent issue of Mojo, that for the past several years, she's been raising her daughter, living off royalties, and that since her daughter's birth, her life had changed drastically - but she still sounded very "Claudia." (Note: the word "Claudia" is now officially an adjective.) :) Didn't someone on the list (several months ago) say that they were set to interview/forward questions to her? I never heard anything further on that. Your Decaying Snob, Zteven # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info ztt" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email ztt@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 08:03:09 -0400 From: Charles Daraghy Subject: (ztt) ztis cassette singles I was looking through Lazlo's ztt discography and I noticed there were several mixes that seemed to be cassette-single only or, renamed as such. As far as propaganda and frankie are concerned (then again, who else had 'collectible' ztt cassette singles?) what mixes are most unique, most valuable. I just got a P:machinery one, but haven't listened to it yet because it arrived in such poor condition I really envy the Duel one, and Mabuse doesn't seem like there's anything special about it. It seems the 'relax' one is pretty neat too. Did 808 state ever have anything -cassette only- ? - -Charlie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info ztt" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email ztt@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 10:06:03 EDT From: Adeheathen@aol.com Subject: Re: (ztt) hoodlum priest I just got myself a new hifi set-up and this involves me getting rid of loads of vinyl, so before I get rid of the Hoodlum Priest album, does anyone here want it ? But no I will not be getting rid of my Propaganda singles ade # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info ztt" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email ztt@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 18:05:48 -0400 From: Alex_Veronac@tvo.org (Alex Veronac) Subject: (ztt) Re: Bud stage show... Charles Daraghy [mailto:cdaraghy@bestweb.net] writes: Modern English put out a new album 2/3 years ago it didn't do well i guess it was the same stuff, considering it has a re-mahe of "Melt with You" alex v. > >Subject: Bud stage show... > >Is the band "Modern English" the original band? I haven't heard of >them >doing any recordings or tours in like 10 years. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info ztt" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email ztt@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 19:59:03 -0700 From: "Ian Ferrell (Exchange)" Subject: RE: (ztt) ztis cassette singles A couple of the cassette singles were released a few years later as Japanese-only CD singles. The AON cassingle "Closely, Closely" comes to mind as one of those. I was so careful with that cassette: I would make copies off my "master" and listen to those out of fear I'd screw the cassette up somehow. Finally snagged the CD single (a 3" single, no less) and now just listen to the MP3s. Some things never change. :) ianf # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info ztt" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email ztt@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 21:54:55 +0100 From: Smiley Subject: (ztt) i'm out of here.....for a while... evening all, i'm going out of the country for a couple of weeks, so: i. that's why i won't be replying to emails ii. those who have sent me money for records, which has yet to arrive, it should turn up by the time i'm back - i'll let you know. iii. those who owe me money but HAVEN'T sent it yet - please make sure that it gets to me by the time i'm back, as i've been waiting a LONG TIME. back july 5th. cheers. - --- Smiley MASSIVE spares list at: http://come.to/SmileyWeb # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info ztt" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email ztt@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 02:13:42 -0700 From: Geoff Davies Subject: (ztt) The AON Yahoo chat It's up. It didn't do anything for me but make up your own mind. Strangely enough the yahoo site takes you to sonicnet. http://www.sonicnet.com/artists/ai_fullchat.jhtml?id=513929&ai_id=2022 Geoff. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info ztt" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email ztt@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 10:20:17 -0700 From: Cliff Tuel Subject: (ztt) AoN "Moments in Love" cover The group Dancing Fantasy has lost the last of their credibility by doing a jazz cover of "Moments in Love". There's a RealAudio clip at CDNow: pnm://rm.musicserver2.com/~vv-450166/0212888_0105_07_0002.ra (might need to cut & paste this into your RealAudio player) Wooof! - -- Cliff Tuel -- cliff@ablecom.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info ztt" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email ztt@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 12:33:59 -0700 From: "Mark Wasiel" Subject: (ztt) Trevor Horn LIVE in Los Angeles June 25th Attention people of Los Angeles, Trevor Horn will be performing live with Sir George Martin and the L.A. Bowl orchestra this Friday the 25th. I was listening to the local (& greatest!) public radio station, KCRW 89.9 fm (http://www.kcrw.org) and they mentioned this Hollywood Bowl concert of Beatles music with many special guests. When they announced Trevor Horn ("former member of Yes") I nearly drove off the road. Actually, I nearly drove off the road when they announced that one of the other artists performing would be the reunited Bangles?!?! Huh?! :) It sounds like a weird show that's for sure but I wanted to post the info in case someone wants to go. It's obviously a very rare occasion to see Trevor perform live. I'm assuming that he will be singing a song or two. I might go if I can get some cheap tickets. Mark Wasiel http://home.pcmagic.net/markw http://home.pcmagic.net/markw Home of A New Stereophonic Sound Spectacular: The P5 Discography # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info ztt" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email ztt@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 01:34:50 +0300 From: "Roger" Subject: (ztt) AoN UK Chart position "Metaforce" reached no. 53 on the UK singles chart, exactly the same position as Art of Noise's latest hit, "Shades of Paranoimia". Not much perhaps, but bigger than "Dragnet" or "Yebo". Check it at www.dotmusic.com/charts/top75singles2.asp Roger # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info ztt" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email ztt@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 16:01:01 -0700 From: jon Subject: (ztt) FS: Seal, Frankie, propaganda cd singles, ZANCE I have the following items for sale if anyone is interested: ZTT Backtrax cd (still sealed) $12 Seal-Future Love EP remixes by Nellee hooper limited UK 12" $12 Frankie Goes to hollywood-Warriors UK cd single (23 minute track!) $12 Seal-Crazy (UK cd single, features accapella and william orbit remix) $10 Seal-I'm Alive UK cd single remixes by Sasha and BT $12 Propaganda-Your Wildlife US promo 12" remixes, mint condition! David morales remixes $12 Seal-The Beginning uk cd single remixes (Mark Moore and Robin Hancock) $10 Seal-Newborn Friend (UK cd single, david morales, sliver mix) 6 mixes total $10 ZANCE-ZTT remixed rare german cd of remixes from frankie, propaganda, 808 state, AON exclusive mix and many more $20 Email me if you're interested or have questions about the tracklisting--thanks! jon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info ztt" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email ztt@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 16:49:11 -0500 From: James Scott Coward Subject: (ztt) All these AON reviews. I'm beginning to find it disappointing to see how few people understand the purpose behind "The Seduction of Claude Debussy". People are forgetting this is not, really, an Art Of Noise album per se. As The Art Of Noise, themselves, have roundly stated, on more than one occasion, this is a tribute to Claude Debussy and his work. This also happens to be a dream of Trevor Horn's. I, personally, try not to knock, criticize or ridicule people's dream projects; they tend to be a more personal view of what someone wants, likes or thinks. Hell one of my dreams was to see them get back together. And to think I didn't have to lift a finger to make it happen. ;-> Now, if I can just get them to produce for Depeche Mode and Bob Dylan.... My point is that when you do any tribute performance you wind up forfeiting a content of your own style to support the work of whom you are paying tribute. That is, of course, unless you are paying tribute to yourself. It is just part of the nature of the act. After all, the album really is AON does Debussy, not AON does AON. Furthermore, they are demonstrating the point that Debussy's work has engrained itself into/triggered the forms, styles and feel of 20th Century music. This causes them to forfeit even more of their own style, in lieu of Debussy's, to effectively prove their point. In light of this, all they have left to show for, of themselves, is their production style and values. When looking at the album objectively, it is nearly a thesis work in modern music and it's origin. I think people are, too often, ignoring the album title (and theme implied therein) and concentrating, only, on the name Art of Noise and the label ZTT. Quite naturally, if this is all that one does before reviewing the album, then, they, likely, will be disappointed and will have missed the point. I, in fact, did that on the first play. Fortunately, I caught on somewhere around "approximate mood swing no:2" and played it all over again. Though, I think that Stravinsky and Mussorgsky also played equal parts in latter 20th Century music, I happen to agree with AON that Debussy was the most influential over all. I, for one, feel that a tribute album was not necessarily the best way to make a comeback, though. Here, in the US, they tend to be regarded as glorified cover-albums, merely, with better packaging. But, this is what Anne and Trevor have been enjoying doing in their spare time. And this music is what brought The Art Of Noise back together. And you know that means that so is back, the big time Trevor Horn production machine. Too bad all the bands that they supported in the past aren't reuniting as well, under ZTT. I'm sure we'll see some new acts get launched to the forefront under The Art Of Noise's support, though. Hopefully, none of the new performers will be inclined to pop Trevor in the eye when their works of art (which Seal couldn't have produced worth a shit on his own, anyway!!) aren't put out on a regimented schedule like a Sony Records assembly line, or something. [see tag below for more on that.] Also, this new incarnation of The Art Of Noise is still not going to sound entirely like the AON of old, simply because they lack the presence of Gary and JJ. A lot of you people don't seem to think that JJ amounted to anything, but this new AON album, I think, proves you wrong. There is barely any of that in-your-face attitude that was felt throughout "Who's Afraid?" I, personally, can hear a good chunk of that attitude, however, in a number of tracks from "artosilence.co.uk". Also they lack that golden EQ touch that Gary is so good at. Trevor is the master of production and arranging bits and pieces of performances together and always will be. But, no one has been able to, fully, replace Gary as production engineer and sound man. The current album is very full and lush and intricate, but, it gets a little muddy at times. For me, what has tied it all together, with "Seduction..." was the wise decision to bring Paul Morley back in. I forgot how much I liked his style of verse. It's cryptic yet still pretty; and brutally necessary to complete their image. Finally, if you're expecting to hear the old Art Of Noise, then, go to your CD case and get out the old Art Of Noise. Nothing stays the same, not even them. Or, nothing stays the same, especially them. - -- James Scott Coward artisan2@oklahoma.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Don't rush me sonny... You rush a miracle man, you get lousy miracles" -Miracle Max # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info ztt" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email ztt@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 08:35:19 GMT From: Robert Marston Subject: (ztt) Custom AON CD Snippit from theartofnoise.com ***** The Seduction of Claude Debussy & Custom CD. Art of Noise find themselves in a position to be officially pleased to offer all our on line fans a one-off chance to create their very own Art of Noise customer concieved CD. Just purchase 'The Seduction of Claude Debussy', from 29th June and you will be able to build your own CD, choosing from 12 rare, quite strange and, in many senses, hard-to-find tracks from the past, present and future. There are also a choice of 3 titles and 3 covers for you to choose from. That's really putting the into into interactive. The various b-sides, outsides, insides and rarities being offered include the b-side to a 'Close (to the Edit)' 7" single called ' A Time To Hear ( Who's Listening )', a 12" version of Close (to the Edit), various diversions of 'Beat Box' including a live in the studio version that goes bang bang bom bom bom bom, and unreleased and once thought lost pieces from the 'Into Battle' sessions such as 'Memory Loss', 'Stucture', 'The Subject Has Moved Left' and 'Resin'. This special promotion is currently available to US residents only and is distributed by amplified.com to CD Now, Tower, Transworld and National Record Mart. To buy the album select from the stores below. **** US ONLY!!!! AAAAARRRRRGGGHHHHH!!!!!!! Please tell me we can do this from the UK as well. If not, is there anyone out there who will purchase this for me in the US??? I'm sure we can come to some arrangement. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info ztt" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email ztt@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 11:34:07 GMT From: Robert Marston Subject: (ztt) The Guardian article 21/6/99 There is an article in today's Guardian (G2 page 14). Their internet site also has a copy of it: http://www.newsunlimited.co.uk/arts/story/0,3604,59907,00.html (I think that is the right address) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info ztt" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email ztt@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 07:58:54 -0700 From: Cliff Tuel Subject: (ztt) Re: Custom AON CD So should I cancel my existing pre-order at CDNow? The pre-order comes with: FEAT. HURT/BRADSHAW/RAKIM LMTD ED. BONUS CD THE SEDUCTION OF CLAUDE DEBUSSY contains a limited edition bonus CD which includes remixes by Roni Size and Shark Tank. Do I get this if I wait 'til June 29? Arrrrgh. - -- Cliff Tuel -- cliff@ablecom.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info ztt" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email ztt@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jun 99 22:49:52 +0100 From: John McCormick Subject: (ztt) Noisy goings-on Dear fellow ztt-lovers, AONyone else in England read this Monday's 'Guardian' yet [21/6/99]? If not try and get hold of someone's binned copy of the 'G2' section, or get a photocopy: theres an ArtofNoise article in there [by Robin Denselow]! I'll try to get permission to use the exact text from the article. In the mean time here are some extracts from the interview with Trevor, Anne, Paul and info about Lol. Headlined: "The Noise are back in town": "...we've snuck back to the studio without him. He'll be devastated." [Dudley about Lol] "There were some legalities involved in wrestling the name back to ZTT" [Denselow] "...the voice of John Hurt, who acts as a narrator..." [Denselow about 'TSOCD'] "...I used to imagine what a band would be like in the year 2000..." [Morley about music] Anyone want to know more? John M. // Northamptonshire, ENGLAND. \\ \\ Please visit my web pages at: // // http://members.tripod.com/~jmccormick \\ \\ - * - // # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info ztt" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email ztt@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 00:04:46 +01:0 From: "Thomas Romlov" Subject: (ztt) Morley interview Dunno if it's been mentioned, but a good interview is to be found at: http://www.sdriver.com/spot/features/art_of_noise_interview.html Thomas. ________________________________________________ Thomas Romlov thomas@pi.se Tel/Fax: +46-40-122004 UIN: 4169488 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info ztt" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email ztt@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 18:30:26 -0700 (PDT) From: mike@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (ztt) Morley interview Thomas Romlov wrote: > Dunno if it's been mentioned, but a good interview is to be found at: > > http://www.sdriver.com/spot/features/art_of_noise_interview.html Hmm, I have a reaction to this interview, which is as you say, quite good. Reading between the lines, this new Art of Noise is much more accessible, in many different ways.. It's often frustrating for an artist to have to explain the nuances of their art for those like me who just don't get it on first listen, view, whatever. But the fact that they're really making an effort can be as encouraging and as thought provoking as the work itself. When Paul goes to lengths to speak frankly about what they've created, suddenly the album is much less a finished product and more of an snapshot of creative process that was in motion for quite some time. I, personally, am happy to see the masks half removed, if only for the run of this promotional period, and even if it's at a price of some of the mystery that was the image of the Art of Noise. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info ztt" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email ztt@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ End of ztt-digest V2 #115 *************************