From: owner-ztt-digest@lists.xmission.com (ztt-digest) To: ztt-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: ztt-digest V2 #129 Reply-To: ztt-digest Sender: owner-ztt-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-ztt-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes ztt-digest Saturday, August 14 1999 Volume 02 : Number 129 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 22:49:15 -0600 From: "FlatCracker Software" Subject: (ztt) Rare Propaganda MP3's Hello ZTT people, I have been a ZTT newsletter subscriber since 1994. I am a big fan of Propaganda. I can't wait till their new album comes out in 2000. Is it me or is this band a little lazy. Two albums in 14 years. Whatever. I decided to place some rare Propaganda MP3 files on a web page for you to download. Back in 1988 I bought two 3 Inch Propaganda CD singles from Japan at my local CD Shop for $8.00 a piece. I noticed over the years that people subscribing to this newsletter have been looking for these discs. (Dr. Mabuse and P-Machinery) Well your dream has come true. These items and a rare version of P-Machinery / Frozen Faces from a Razzormaid disc are on the following web page. http://www.flatcracker.com/propaganda/index.htm Note: The mp3 files are zipped. You will need to unzip them. I hope you enjoy it. Shane # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info ztt" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email ztt@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 14:41:10 -0400 From: Dave Subject: (ztt) Art of Noise tidbit in new Lexicon Shameless SAM, but I thought the list would be interested. Single copies are available for $5 (post paid in the US, overseas add $3)- Lexicon, PO Box 1734, Wheaton, MD 20915 The current issue of Lexicon is on newsstands now and in the mail to our subscribers! This issue features a cool as heck cover, interview and full-length discography (and we do mean lengthy!) with the pop terrorists known as the Art of Noise. There are also interviews/articles on Peter Bryne (of Naked Eyes), Toyah, Marc Almond (part two of two), the fake Frankie Goes to Hollywood, the Bongos, Rational Youth, live Rick Springfield, a classic 1994 interview with Terry Hall, Nile Rodgers, Front Line Assembly, Cosmicity, Attrition and Peter Ulrich (Dead Can Dance). Plus, a chance to win the new Lilac Time CD (with 5 bonus tracks not on the import). And the usual goodies like news, Thea's Trivia Questions and our fan resource section. Reviews this issue include new releases from ABC (live album), Real Life (remix album), Duran Duran (single), Strawberry Switchblade (new Rose McDowal "Sorrow" project, plus an exclusive photo of Rose!), plus dozens more. 52 action packed pages of '80s fun! New subscribers get a free Cd featuring Real Life, Mari Wilson, Mesh, Cosmicity and many more. For more info visit our webpage: Thanks - -Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info ztt" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email ztt@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 15:28:57 -0400 From: jordan.feinman@ps.ge.com Subject: (ztt) Art of Noise Hello, Can anyone tell me some of Art of Noise's hits from the 80's? Do they have any hits? I've never heard of them, but may be interested in picking up one of their CD's if I can identify at least one song I've heard from them on the radio. Thanks, Jordan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info ztt" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email ztt@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 00:24:03 +0300 From: "Roger" Subject: (ztt) Art of Noise Hits Art of Noise official UK Hits from biggest to smallest: Top 5: Kiss Top 10: Close (To the Edit), Peter Gunn Top 20: Paranoimia Top 75: Instruments of Darkness (All of Us Are One People), Moments In Love/Beat Box, Metaforce, Dragnet, Yebo, Art of Love, Legs Roger # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info ztt" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email ztt@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 11:20:37 +0100 From: "John McCormick" Subject: (ztt) 'Tom Jones' pops up again... Hi ztters, While I think of it, has anyone ever mentioned BBC 1's 'The Other Half' here in the UK? [well I have now I suppose] Fact: It makes use of a medley of songs by ArtOfNoise using 'Kiss' as the main hook. Does anyone know who put this medley together? perhaps it is a 'BBC version'. If no one knows, i'll ask at the beeb. John M. - -- // Northamptonshire, ENGLAND. * \\ \\ Please visit my web pages at: (from 15/8/99) // // http://www.johnmccormick.cwc.net * \\ \\ and also still available at: (now) // // http://members.tripod.com/~jmccormick * \\ \\ - * - * // # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info ztt" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email ztt@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 07:07:35 +0200 From: Propaganda.de@t-online.de (propaganda.de) Subject: (ztt) Propaganda / ACT: PANDEMONIUM Hi all, last night i`ve seen an old MTV video from ACT on a recorded tape. MTV writes in the left lower corner: Group; Title, ALbumtitle; i think everyone knew this, but here was the inexplicable. ACT Absolute immune "PANDEMONIUM" Does anyone know, if "PANDEMONIUM" was the working title for the album, as for "A secret wish" it was "Devils advocates" or is this a MTV pandemonium ?????? bye Karl http://home.t-online.de/home/Propaganda.de/ ANOTHER HOPE IS ANOTHER DREAM # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info ztt" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email ztt@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 07:52:55 -0400 From: jordan.feinman@ps.ge.com Subject: RE: (ztt) Art of Noise Thank you, and every one else for your replies! Jordan - -----Original Message----- From: John McCormick [mailto:jdmcc@cwcom.net] Sent: Thursday, August 12, 1999 6:23 AM To: jordan.feinman@ps.ge.com Subject: Re: (ztt) Art of Noise >From: jordan.feinman@ps.ge.com >To: ztt@lists.xmission.com >Subject: (ztt) Art of Noise >Date: Wed, Aug 11, 1999, 8:28 pm > > Hello, > > Can anyone tell me some of Art of Noise's hits from the 80's? Do they have > any hits? I've never heard of them, but may be interested in picking up one > of their CD's if I can identify at least one song I've heard from them on > the radio. > > Thanks, > > Jordan Hi Jordan, The track you'd be looking for is called 'Close (to the edit)' and thats the track that went down a storm in the mid-eighties (though not played all that much on the Radio now). Also AON remixed Tom Jones' 'Kiss' a few years later. A Medley of AON hits can be heard today being used these days on BBC 1's 'The Other Half' using 'Kiss'/'Close (to the edit)'/and that other one with Duane Eddy - that guitar-twanging one. Though I'm not an AON connoisseur, I know that this will be on at least one of their albums. The only version I have is 'Closing' which is a rare version of 'Close (to the edit)' used as a 'promo' on IQ6. Hope thats of help, John M. - -- // Northamptonshire, ENGLAND. * \\ \\ Please visit my web pages at: (from 15/8/99) // // http://www.johnmccormick.cwc.net * \\ \\ and also still available at: (now) // // http://members.tripod.com/~jmccormick * \\ \\ - * - * // # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info ztt" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email ztt@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 09:21:50 -0600 From: Ernie Longmire/Lazlo Nibble Subject: Re: (ztt) Propaganda / ACT: PANDEMONIUM On Thu, Aug 12, 1999 at 07:07:35AM +0200, propaganda.de wrote: > Does anyone know, if "PANDEMONIUM" was the working title for the album, as > for "A secret wish" it was "Devils advocates" or is this a MTV pandemonium > ?????? I think it was probably the working title. The single came out nine months before the album and things change quickly in ZTT-land. :-) - -- Lazlo Nibble - lazlo@studio-nibble.com - http://www.studio-nibble.com this message powered by level 42 - running in the family -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info ztt" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email ztt@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 20:41:31 +0200 From: Markus Arnold Subject: (ztt) Art of Noise Metaforce bonus cd Sorry to bring this subject up again. I ordered my Seduction of Claude Debussy CD at CDNow with a Bonus CD of Metaforce mixes. Yes, you've guessed it, it came without the Bonus CD. Could someone who did get the bonus CD let me know if the bonus CD was a separate item or came in a double CD pack with the Claude Debussy CD? I wrote to CDNOW a week ago, but haven't heard from them... Strangely enough I did get the custom CD, but of course only after writing to CDNOW demanding the key... Thanks in advance for any help on this matter. Markus For news on 808 State see: http://www.808state.com/news/news.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info ztt" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email ztt@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 13:14:05 -0600 From: Ernie Longmire/Lazlo Nibble Subject: Re: (ztt) Art of Noise Metaforce bonus cd On Thu, Aug 12, 1999 at 08:41:31PM +0200, Markus Arnold wrote: > Sorry to bring this subject up again. I ordered my Seduction of Claude > Debussy CD at CDNow with a Bonus CD of Metaforce mixes. Yes, you've guessed > it, it came without the Bonus CD. Could someone who did get the bonus CD > let me know if the bonus CD was a separate item or came in a double CD pack > with the Claude Debussy CD? It was packed in the same jewelbox with Seduction -- I think they just put the early pressings in slimline 2CD cases with "metaforce" as the second CD. - -- Lazlo Nibble - lazlo@studio-nibble.com - http://www.studio-nibble.com -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info ztt" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email ztt@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 03:58:40 +0200 From: "Boaz Halachmi" Subject: (ztt) The Image Hello all, Haven't anyone noticed the new "Action" numbers on the AON Seduction realese? It is called "art of noise as the image of a group at the turn of the century:". Here are the "images" i have: Image 0003 : The seduction of art of noise ZTT epk VHS video (Duration: 12:34) Image 0022 : Masked A-side of "Dream On" ZTT113TP Image 0023 : Unmasked B-side of "Dream On" ZTT113TP Image 0024 : Cover of "Dream On" ZTT113TP Image 0031 : "Dream On" US 12" promo U8P-1420 The booklet of TSOCD states that the album includes images 0007 to 0023, but that's makes a problem with the UK "Dream On" A and B sides (wrong counting maybe?). The booklet also says the images are catalogued on the web site. Can't find it myself... Does anyone got another item with the 4-digit image number? I have the 12-trk promo CD - no image number there. Also no images on the "Metaforce" singles. Also wanted to note that the address sticker on the pack of the "Dream On" i got from ZTT (Thanks, Zang!) is a special one, saying "ZTT (DREAMING IN COLOUR?)". I kept the pack... :) Cheers, Boaz # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info ztt" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email ztt@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 00:03:28 -0500 From: "Blake" Subject: RE: (ztt) Art of Noise Metaforce bonus cd > Sorry to bring this subject up again. I ordered my Seduction of Claude > Debussy CD at CDNow with a Bonus CD of Metaforce mixes. Yes, you've guessed > it, it came without the Bonus CD. Could someone who did get the bonus CD > let me know if the bonus CD was a separate item or came in a double CD pack > with the Claude Debussy CD? > I wrote to CDNOW a week ago, but haven't heard from them... Funny you should mention this :) I ordered 'Seduction' a few weeks back because of the bonus disc. The CD came, but no bonus disc. So, I wrote CDnow and explained the situation to them. They were very kind and told me to keep the disc I got shipped mistakenly, and they would send me the correct release (with bonus disc) free of charge. A week later the replacement came -- no bonus disc. So, I wrote them again and explained the (now very complicated) situation. They were again very nice and told me to keep the two discs, and they would try it a third time. The disc came a few days ago -- no bonus disc. I know have three copies of 'Seduction' with no bonus disc :) I think I'm just going to give up :) - -- Visit my SYNTHPOP page with over 2,700 examples of synthpop cover art! Synthpop Page: http://www.swcp.com/blakeh/synthpop.htm Email: blakeh@ix.netcom.com - -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info ztt" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email ztt@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 00:09:18 -0500 From: "Blake" Subject: (ztt) Propaganda Article I don't know if this has been posted to the list before, but I found it interesting... A friend sent it to me (he may even be on the list). If so -- we all thank you! [NOTE : this article is NOT available on the web] - ---------------------------------------------- [plot synopsis] -> an article about propaganda, their start, and the single 'dr mabuse' - ---------------------------------------------- - ---------------------------------------------- german band propaganda plan to take over the world..from the inside, for a change. ian pye tries to unravel the truth from the rhetoric. tonny barratt provides photographic deceit 'i refuse to be put in a cupboard', propaganda's ralf dorper warns me authoritatively. 'always people want to put you in a cupboard but this is not so easy with propaganda - to identify us is not so easy, yes?' a little idiosyncratic maybe, but ralf's english is really remarkably fluent, shaming our national inability to speak any other language than our own. dressed almost exclusively in black he's sitting in zang tumb tuums cool blue offices explaining the intention behind the group chosen to follow the orgy of success afforded to frankie goes to hollywood. on his right is susanne freytag, who along with claudia brueken provides propaganda with the silky vocal textures fashioned to lure you into a harder world of fear and darkness. the group's debut single is 'dr mabuse' a record that discovers the missing link between abba and the german new wave. like the most powerful advertising it remains elusive. it's components, art, message, confection, sublimal codes and dramas, cannot be readily dissected depending and relating to each other in a web of choreographed illusion and deceit. on one level it's a great pop record, but look further into this box of tricks and you'll see something else. you may find yourself happily singing this song, which is funny really, becasue the heart of the concern is evil. of the fritz lang movie character 'dr mabuse', ralf says, 'i think mabuse was used by lang as a way of symbolising fascism. he also wanted to revive dr faust, a figure that was always there in the minds of the german people - the man who sold his soul to the devil. and we now give this mythic spectre new life' - -------[end part 1]----------------------------- - ------------------------------------------- transcription : zero research : zero layout : generic Designs text : textDesignersRepublic concept : propaganda thanx : progadanda, jg, mm (c) : 1999 generic Designs - -------------------------------------------- - -- Visit my SYNTHPOP page with over 2,700 examples of synthpop cover art! Synthpop Page: http://www.swcp.com/blakeh/synthpop.htm Email: blakeh@ix.netcom.com - -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info ztt" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email ztt@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 00:18:39 -0500 From: artisan2 Subject: Re: (ztt) Art of Noise jordan.feinman@ps.ge.com wrote: > Hello, > > Can anyone tell me some of Art of Noise's hits from the 80's? Do they have > any hits? I've never heard of them, but may be interested in picking up one > of their CD's if I can identify at least one song I've heard from them on > the radio. > > Thanks, > > Jordan Well, "Beat Box", "Close to the Edit" and "Moments In Love" were, all, managed to crack Billboard's Top 40. Their longevity, popularity and legend status belie their low chart positions. "Paranoimia" spent 2 months at #1 on Mtv's Top 20 and hit around #5 on Billboard. It was so popular here in Tulsa Oklahoma (not worth writing home about) that the DJs eventually broke their copies. They did the same thing with Weird Al's "Eat It" and Devo's "Satisfaction". "Peter Gunn" (that twangy guitar piece mentioned) reached somewhere around 30-35 on Billboard and 15 or so on Mtv. It also scored them a Grammy with Duane Eddy for best instrumental of 1986. Subsequent releases didn't do so well after that until 1988's entry, "Kiss", with Tom Jones. Nothing else ever hit it big on the pop charts (emphasis on the word pop). But, they have always managed to maintain good circulation in the clubs; and probably always will. This is not counting the myriad (master?)pieces that they've produced for other people, sometimes incognito. - -- James S. Coward artisan2@oklahoma.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Due to the internal organisation of the musical work, the act of listening to it immobilizes passing time: it catches and unfolds it as one catches and enfolds a cloth flapping in the wind. It follows that by listening to music, and while we are listening to it, we enter a kind of immortality" - The Art Of Noise # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info ztt" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email ztt@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 06:50:50 +0200 From: Propaganda.de@t-online.de (propaganda.de) Subject: (ztt) For Sale: Hi all, anyone interested on the following items: 7"PD Art of Noise - Close (to the edit) PZTPS01 10$ 12" Art of Silence - West4 (AX12X1) 7$ MxCD Noisemaker - Moments (in love) (AON-Coverversion) (1997, Ger, Motor Music) 7$ 12" 808 State - 10x10 (Promo, Sam933, ZTT-Cover) 5$ CD Seal - Fly like an eagle 3:37 (Promo; Moderntracks; On the radio November 96) 12$ 12" Seal - I`m alive (Sasha & BT remix) (ZANG70T) 9$ 2x12" Novecento - Day and night (Morales and Rapino Brothers remixes; Limited edition DJ double pack; SAM1594; TOC) 12$ CD The Brain feat. Claudia Brucken - I`ll find a way (Gate remix) 22$ 2x12" FGTH - DMC mix COMPLETE FRANKIE (DMC135; DJ-Only; UK) 25$ 2x12" FGTH - Two tribes (SAm1320; Promo; Fluke and Intermission mixes) 14$ 10" FGTH - Two tribes (808 State mix; Blue vinyl) 25$ 12" FGTH - Warriors (Attack mix) (12ZTAK25; promo only, PC with wl12") 22$ 12" FGTH - Relax (Ollie J remix) (FGTH 1T; Germany) 4$ CD FGTH - BANG (Japan; WMC5-644) 25$ CD FGTH - WTTP (Japan; WPCR-16) 25$ MCD FGTH - Relax / WTTP (10 mixes; Japan; WMC5-695) 22$ Postage: 12": Germany 4$; Europe 7$; outside Europe air mail 14$ CD: Germany 2$; Europe 4$; outside Europe air mail 7$ bye Karl http://home.t-online.de/home/Propaganda.de/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info ztt" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email ztt@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 23:22:36 +0300 From: "Roger" Subject: (ztt) re: Art of Noise US Hits Art of Noise only had three hits on the official Billboard pop charts. These are the correct peak positions. The US hits were: Peter Gunn #50 Paranoimia #34 Kiss #31 So...no US hits from their first album, and no top ten hits either. Roger # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info ztt" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email ztt@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 15:39:45 -0500 From: Subject: RE: (ztt) re: Art of Noise US Hits Ah, but also according to Billboard, from the Pop Albums chart: LP Peak (Who's Afraid Of?) The Art Of Noise! #85 In Visible Silence #53 In-No-Sense? Nonsense! #134 The Best Of The Art Of Noise #83 FWIW: The Beatles' "Sgt. Pepper's" registered #1 on this chart for 15 weeks and had NO singles. (Singles were released from this album some 10 years thereafter.) But does anybody on this list purchase or enjoy any Art of Noise material (or other related material, for that matter) based in any way on their chart position? - -Dave B > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-ztt@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-ztt@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Roger > Sent: Friday, August 13, 1999 3:23 PM > To: ztt@lists.xmission.com > Subject: (ztt) re: Art of Noise US Hits > > > > Art of Noise only had three hits on the official Billboard > pop charts. These > are the correct peak positions. > > The US hits were: > Peter Gunn #50 > Paranoimia #34 > Kiss #31 > > So...no US hits from their first album, and no top ten hits either. > > Roger # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info ztt" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email ztt@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 20:10:41 -0400 From: Alex_Veronac@tvo.org (Alex Veronac) Subject: (ztt) AoN playing CMJ(in NYC) I read that AoN will be playing at the annual CMJ Music Conference(sept.15-18,99) details at www.cmj-music.com/Marathon99 Tricky & Lamb are also playing - guess they need the exposure as well alex v. n.p. - not listening to anything # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info ztt" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email ztt@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ End of ztt-digest V2 #129 *************************