From: tob@ramboll.dk Subject: Re: FGTH 4 SALE Date: 01 May 1996 03:16:58 -0600 (MDT) What a great offer, I'm very interested. I suggest that I post you a international check for a German bank on 50,- DM. Is the 50 including tapes and postal arrangements ?? When you confirm I take quick action. - Torben from Denmark ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tob@ramboll.dk Subject: News on Anne Dudley from ECHO label Date: 01 May 1996 03:16:55 -0600 (MDT) HELLO LIST, In february 1995 Anne Dudley released Ancient_and_Modern on the ECHO label, a first solo album, containg orchestral compositions of old traditional british works. The album stayed in the classical chart for 10 weeks, despite disadvantages such as 1) she was with AON, 2) she is young, 3) she's a woman. In december 1995 AD released a Christmas EP from this album, featuring two new tracks. Currently she is writing a second solo album and has scored a new film, The_Grotesque, starring Sting, who have added lyrics to the opening credit music. The music is big band tracks. - Torben The Dane ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tob@ramboll.dk Subject: TCH in YES (abstracts from the YES newsgroup) Date: 01 May 1996 03:22:52 -0600 (MDT) HELLO LIST, The last couple of weeks heavy discussion have been on the YES newsgroup. The questions in concern is whether TCH sang vocals or backing vocals on Owner_of_a_lonely_heart or whether it's Trevor Rabin/Jon Anderson. It seems as real YES-fans think the TCH involvement as only a musical ripple. The background article with proof is an interview with Alan White where he describes the Two Trevors ability to sound as Jon Anderson. But which Trevor is refered to where - that's the question. To me it seems, that Trevor Rabin did the vocals on Owner, but still TCH is credited for fine achivements with YES. Especially the songs that didn't make it to the album is mentioned: Go_through_this and We_can_fly_from_here. Check it yourself - it's funny ! Have in mind thou, that the Two Trevors still work together. On the new Tina Turner album they in fact sing together on her John Waite cover of his 1984 hit Missing_You. - Torben from Denmark ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Henrik Lundstroem" <94K068@chestud.chalmers.se> Subject: Re: News on Anne Dudley from ECHO label Date: 01 May 1996 19:17:22 GMT +0100 > In february 1995 Anne Dudley released Ancient_and_Modern on the ECHO label, > a first solo album, containg orchestral compositions of old traditional > british works. The album stayed in the classical chart for 10 weeks, > despite disadvantages such as 1) she was with AON, 2) she is young, 3) > she's a woman. > > In december 1995 AD released a Christmas EP from this album, featuring > two new tracks. > > Currently she is writing a second solo album and has scored a new film, > The_Grotesque, starring Sting, who have added lyrics to the opening credit > music. The music is big band tracks. > > > - Torben > The Dane > Last week I mentioned that Anne talked about Trevor in some interviews. Since then, some of you have asked me where to find these interviews, so I thought it would be best to mail more details to the list. The best AD interview (imho) was in the April '95 issue of Sound and Sound. She was also interviewed in Future Music (March or April issue I think) and Classical Music (about the same time - it was quite funny to see the same AD photo on the covers of both classical and electronic music magazines at the same time...). I also think there was a small feature in The Mix. Henrik. Henrik Lundstroem Chemistry student at Chalmers University of Technology, Gothenburg, Sweden Stalivari shout "HEUREKA!!" as the signal for invention par excellence "Mrs Peel, we're needed!" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Till Teuber" Subject: Art of Holly Date: 02 May 1996 14:37:45 +100 Hello everybody! I just went to London last week, where I've been in the Gallery in Cork St. (London, Piccadilly), which has got the very immaginative name THE GALLERY. I found out that the exhibition "The House of Holly" has been from the 11th - 23rd of march. That was quite annoying for me, because I actually was in London at the 14th of march not knowing about that exibition, which I've been waiting for scince two years... Anyway, the poeple in THE gallery told me that I could get the catalog of "The House of Holly" in the Art-bookshop in the same street. For anyone who is intressted in the catalog, here is the e-mail adress of that bookshop: booksop@atrium.co.uk The catalog is 15.- pounds. Lazlo has allready given you the most important details. It contains an introduction by Holly, a foreword by Francis Spalding, a most recent Photo of "the gorgeous Holly Johson", 12 paintings and love- boxes. The biography (4 pages) goes beyond, what we know from "A Bone in My Flute". The most important news Lazlo has mentioned: Holly plans to record again and to create a web site and a multimedia CD-rom. But don't get too excited about that, it can still take a long time until we see the results. Remeber that it took Holly half a year just to find a record company for "Legendary Children" and he was planning to do the artexhibition for two years. Although Holly is very creative and active, takes time for him to realize his prodjects. However, of course I'm looking forward to some new releases!! Besides there where some more e-mail adresses at the end of the catalog, which might be of any use: Public relation by Debbie Woodcock: mdm@ramnic.demon.co.uk Catalogdesign by CJ Field: 100420.106@compuserve.com Bye and take care. Till P.S.: Did you know that "Legendary Children" got No.1 in Israel?! How come? > P.s.: Thanks to Jez and Stephan for supporting me in finding > THE Gallery! > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jez Hall Subject: RE: Art of Holly Date: 02 May 1996 14:09:00 PDT Till, Lazlo - I missed the message with the details from The Catalogue of "House Of Holly". Can you send them to me ? Glad that the gallery was found. I think maybe Holly should has advertised the event via email. TILL - I'm very interested in your video's - sorry I lost the Holly interview. Jez. hall_j@lincoln.gpsemi.com ---------- Hello everybody! I just went to London last week, where I've been in the Gallery in Cork St. (London, Piccadilly), which has got the very immaginative name THE GALLERY. I found out that the exhibition "The House of Holly" has been from the 11th - 23rd of march. That was quite annoying for me, because I actually was in London at the 14th of march not knowing about that exibition, which I've been waiting for scince two years... Anyway, the poeple in THE gallery told me that I could get the catalog of "The House of Holly" in the Art-bookshop in the same street. For anyone who is intressted in the catalog, here is the e-mail adress of that bookshop: booksop@atrium.co.uk The catalog is 15.- pounds. Lazlo has allready given you the most important details. It contains an introduction by Holly, a foreword by Francis Spalding, a most recent Photo of "the gorgeous Holly Johson", 12 paintings and love- boxes. The biography (4 pages) goes beyond, what we know from "A Bone in My Flute". The most important news Lazlo has mentioned: Holly plans to record again and to create a web site and a multimedia CD-rom. But don't get too excited about that, it can still take a long time until we see the results. Remeber that it took Holly half a year just to find a record company for "Legendary Children" and he was planning to do the artexhibition for two years. Although Holly is very creative and active, takes time for him to realize his prodjects. However, of course I'm looking forward to some new releases!! Besides there where some more e-mail adresses at the end of the catalog, which might be of any use: Public relation by Debbie Woodcock: mdm@ramnic.demon.co.uk Catalogdesign by CJ Field: 100420.106@compuserve.com Bye and take care. Till P.S.: Did you know that "Legendary Children" got No.1 in Israel?! How come? > P.s.: Thanks to Jez and Stephan for supporting me in finding > THE Gallery! > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alex_Veronac@tvo.org Subject: Re: FGTH 4 SALE Date: 03 May 1996 21:49:43 GMT >>>> I can offer you 2 different FGTH compilation videos! Each plays 3 hours of TV-appearances, Interviews, Videos etc. <<<< is it available on North American NTSC Format? av ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: markus@euronet.nl (Markus_Arnold) Subject: New 808 State album Date: 05 May 1996 01:01:33 +0200 (MET DST) Hi Zance-ateers! Just to let you know, the news-section of 'Webstate' has finally been updated again. There's news about the new album, which is being released on 17 June. Also find details about a free gig in Manchester. Check: http://www.hyperreal.com:80/808/ I was in Manchester last weekend and had the opportunity to chat with Darren and Andy of 808 State at Club Kudos. Daz was able to reveal to me that the new album will have a different bonus track per country released! The countries are USA, UK and Japan. I also asked him if they were still happy at ZTT and he replied "yes". But the only reason was because of Trevor Horn. He stressed that being on Warners worldwide isn't always easy, in terms of being allowed to release the material you want to release. Markus markus@euronet.nl ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mark wasiel Subject: Re: New 808 State album Date: 05 May 1996 01:51:49 -0600 (MDT) Markus_Arnold wrote: > Just to let you know, the news-section of 'Webstate' has finally been > updated again. There's news about the new album, which is being released on > 17 June. Also find details about a free gig in Manchester. Check: > http://www.hyperreal.com:80/808/ Thank God some new stuff is coming out! From the track listing though, it appears that MC Tunes and his track "Pump" have disappeared. :( I was looking forward to hearing the Tune-ster again. > I also asked him if they were still happy at ZTT and he replied "yes". But > the only reason was because of Trevor Horn. He stressed that being on > Warners worldwide isn't always easy, in terms of being allowed to release > the material you want to release. I knew it! Warners is screwing up ZTT! After the sales Seal generated, I'm sure they don't even want to bother with 808 State. Just look at the last couple of releases. VERY mainstream...and VERY uninteresting (in general). BTW, does anyone still have the 808 State track that was distributed over the internet a year ago? I tried to download the file but it was pretty big and I didn't have a lot of hard drive space left. Anyway, my whole hard drive crashed the next day and I lost everything including the 808 State track (most of it, I never finished d/l-ing it!). I really liked the track a lot and would be very grateful if someone could email it to me or arrange to send it throuhg IRC. mark ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: markus@euronet.nl (Markus_Arnold) Subject: Pump! Date: 05 May 1996 22:21:12 +0200 (MET DST) New 808 State album Mark Wasiel wrote: >Thank God some new stuff is coming out! From the track listing though, it appears >that MC Tunes and his track "Pump" have disappeared. :( I was looking forward to >hearing the Tune-ster again. Sorry, I forgot to mention, according to Daz, 'Pump' is going to be one of the bonus tracks, I think he said it would be on the Japanese release. Oh, and he also mentioned that the album is going to sound like ex:el. Looking forward! >BTW, does anyone still have the 808 State track that was distributed over the >internet a year ago? I tried to download the file but it was pretty big and I >didn't have a lot of hard drive space left. Anyway, my whole hard drive crashed >the next day and I lost everything including the 808 State track (most of it, I >never finished d/l-ing it!). I really liked the track a lot and would be very >grateful if someone could email it to me or arrange to send it throuhg IRC. I'm also interested, I never managed to download the whole version either. Markus markus@euronet.nl ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Roland Metzger <76113.2741@CompuServe.COM> Subject: THE ART OF SILENCE JJ Jeczalik LIVE! Date: 06 May 1996 16:26:08 EDT Here's a little something I got from http://hyperreal.com/music/artists/808_state/feedback/clubpress.html Exclusively for Club Nation THE ART OF SILENCE (JJ Jeczalik, founder of The Art Of Noise) will also be performing live on stage at the same time as THE BLACK DOG! (the first live performance for both in over a year). Art Of Silence have a new LP titled "More Noise Than Art" about to be released on Permanent Records and The Black Dog has a new LP "Music For Adverts (And Short Films)" due for imminent release on Warp Records. In an historic coup, both will be playing alongside each other on the Main Stage as "Art Of Silence versus The Black Dog". Manchester G-MEX on 7 June from 8pm - 8am On Friday, 7th June 1996 club sounds nationwide will converge for the very first all-nighter to be held in Manchester's legendary G-MEX venue, from 8pm to 8am, following on from last year's successful outdoor Fiesta event in Manchester. There's also 808 State DJ-ing on that night! If any one of us ZTT'ers is going there, I hope a report is being posted!!! Cheers Roland ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mark wasiel Subject: JJ Lives! Date: 06 May 1996 12:52:35 -0600 (MDT) Andrew of 808 State sent me some info on that Club Nation gig -- I think the info is on the web site. However, it included some information that I hadn't seen posted about so I thought people might want to know. This information is that JJ JEczalik is recording music under the name THE ART OF SILENCE. Check it out: -Exclusively for Club Nation THE ART OF SILENCE (JJ Jeczalik, founder of The Art Of Noise) will also be performing live on stage at the same time as THE BLACK DOG! (the first live performance for both in over a year). Art Of Silence have a new LP titled "More Noise Than Art" about to be released on Permanent Records and The Black Dog has a new LP "Music For Adverts (And Short Films)" due for imminent release on Warp Records. In an historic coup, both will be playing alongside each other on the Main Stage as "Art Of Silence versus The Black Dog". And from the new release list at cdeurope (yeah, I know they're slow) here's the listing for the release: - (Catalog ID=B397392) Art Of Silence Co. Uk by Art Of Silence Label: Released: 5/31/96 Media:Vinyl Album Price: $22.95 USD - (Catalog ID=B397391) Art Of Silence Co. Uk by Art Of Silence Label: Released: 5/31/96 Media:Compact Disc album Price: $27.95 USD I wonder what it will sound like. Art of Silence hasn't released anything before, has it? mark can't wait for the new State ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Browne Subject: RE: FGTH 4 SALE Date: 07 May 1996 12:55:00 PDT I'm interested, but your email address hasn't come through in my mail reader (just the mailing list address). If you mail me at steveb@cix.compulink.co.uk, we can sort out what needs doing.. Steve B. ---------- Sent: 30 April 1996 10:46 Hello FRANKIE-fans! I can offer you 2 different FGTH compilation videos! Each plays 3 hours of TV-appearances, Interviews, Videos etc. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bortz@postoffice.ptd.net (J Bortz) Subject: ACT 12" for sale! Date: 08 May 1996 13:48:49 -0400 (EDT) I'm taking bids on the following item... ACT: Snobbery and Decay "Thats Entertainment" GE 12" If anyone is interested, I'm taking bids for 1 week. Please E Mail me! I'de rather someone on this list get it than someone else! Cheers, Josh ______ | ___ `\ Josh Bortz aka (bortz@ptd.net) =20 | | | | =20 | | M | | - Zang Tumb Tuum - | `---` / ______________________________________ | |~~~~` | | |_| A C | "the dark religions are departed | | and sweet Science reigns" | H I N | | | - Claudia Br=81cken | E R Y |______________________________________| ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjschill@students.wisc.edu Subject: re-entry Date: 09 May 1996 17:37:47 -0500 Hi y'awl, anyone still out there? (...err...err...err...er) It's me, the Trevor Horn fanatic, wondering why it's so quiet here and what He has been doing recently. Any info on recent TCH projects? (...ects...ects...ects...) Paul Schilling ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kjell Elgsaas Subject: AOS & JJ email Date: 09 May 1996 07:49:49 -0600 (MDT) Has anyone gotten any response to email send to jj's email address as stated on the AOS still-not-very-operational homepage? I haven't... If a AOS album is to be released as recent rumours say, the site should get some attention from the designers soon... something always happens... Kjell ___________________________________________________________ Kjell Roll Elgsaas kjelle@max.hint.no http://wwwstud.hint.no/~kjelle ___________________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kjell Elgsaas Subject: TCH/PSB/TT connection Date: 09 May 1996 07:45:30 -0600 (MDT) Torben the Dane wrote: > Did Tina Turner meet Pet Shop Boys through TCH, or meet TCH through > Pet Shop Boys. Interesting question... I don't quite see PSB hanging out with Tina Turner, though, so my guess is that Trevor is the link here. The PSB-penned tune is to be released as a single this autumn, I hear... That could be promising, in respect to remixes by PSB, Trevor or both! Love from the truck-driver and his mate... Kjell ___________________________________________________________ Kjell Roll Elgsaas kjelle@max.hint.no http://wwwstud.hint.no/~kjelle ___________________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kjell Elgsaas Subject: Holly & Vangelis Date: 09 May 1996 07:32:19 -0600 (MDT) Gianluca wrote: >I'm very curious too about Holly's new recording plans, and WHICH SONG >DID HE WRITE WITH VANGELIS ???? If he's written anything with Vangelis is hasn't been released yet... We can only wait and see... Vangelis' last album Voices featured many guest vocalists, such as Paul Young, Caroline Lavelle and Stina Nordenstam. So it would not seem unlikely that a colaboration with Holly also can be realized... I certainly hope Holly will release a full album soon... Legendary Children was great fun, and Love & Hate with Sakamoto was good, but I want more... Love to the fgth fans... you know who you are! Kjell ___________________________________________________________ Kjell Roll Elgsaas kjelle@max.hint.no http://wwwstud.hint.no/~kjelle ___________________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Raymond A. Koh" Subject: Re: re-entry Date: 10 May 1996 14:04:06 +0100 TCH has largely been responsible for Tina Turner`s new album Wildest Dreams. It has been panned here in England and is dropping fast out of the charts. I quite like it. A bit too conventional, but it's quite pleasant to listen to. Although the production is good, I think the vocals are mixed a bit too loud (sounds as though it was mixed on headphones which tend to overemphasise the bass). Date forwarded: Thu, 9 May 1996 16:57:21 -0600 (MDT) Date sent: Thu, 9 May 1996 17:37:47 -0500 Forwarded by: ztt@xmission.com Hi y'awl, anyone still out there? (...err...err...err...er) It's me, the Trevor Horn fanatic, wondering why it's so quiet here and what He has been doing recently. Any info on recent TCH projects? (...ects...ects...ects...) Paul Schilling Goodbye. Love and hugs, Raymond A. Koh ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kjell Elgsaas Subject: JJ & Bob Date: 10 May 1996 02:39:51 -0600 (MDT) >'JJ Jeczalik is now signed to Permanent as The Art Of Silence, the same >name used for his remix work with cohort Bob Kraushaar. Does anyone have a complete list of the remix work JJ & Bob have done together, as AOS or otherwise? Please enlighten us! Thanks... Kjell ___________________________________________________________ Kjell Roll Elgsaas kjelle@max.hint.no http://wwwstud.hint.no/~kjelle ___________________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kjell Elgsaas Subject: AoN samples Date: 10 May 1996 02:47:01 -0600 (MDT) On the subject of AoN being sampled these days, Coolio's "I Wish" seems to have a piece of the M. Queens' vocals from Below The Waste in its chorus. Am I mistaken? I don't know if the sample (if indeed it is) is credited in the cover or elsewhere, I've only heard the track on the radio a few times. ...for those with an ear for the finer details... Kjell ___________________________________________________________ Kjell Roll Elgsaas kjelle@max.hint.no http://wwwstud.hint.no/~kjelle ___________________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: vanlunteren@koeln.netsurf.de (djudge) Subject: Re: a Trevor Horn first Date: 11 May 1996 16:15:13 +0100 Hi Everybody, this is my first posting to the newsgroup, though I'm observing it since quite some time. As a short introduction, my name is Roger, I'm 24 years old and live in Cologne. Soren wrote: >Last friday a DJ at Denmarks radio ran a feature on Mr. Trevor Horn. He played >'Owner of a Lonely Heart', 'Slave to the Rhythm' and 'Crazy'. Unfortunetly he >didn't tell very much about the man and he didn't mention ZTT. BUT the things >he said was very interesting. >He mentioned (another) TCH-first! He told that 'Owner of a Lonely Heart' was >the first record to use a sampled and looped drumbreak. A so-called breakbeat. >Why not. The man, the label and it's artists are ahead of everyone else. They >invent music! >Can anybody confirm this story or add something to it? First, it's good that you re-posted this msg, I forgot it. I can confirm the hole story you wrote. I have the track 'Owner of a lonely Heart' myself, featured on the "Yesstory" 2CD-Set. The track starts with a sampled breakbeat in a raw and warm sounding quality and last approx. 1 bar. After that the song starts up with it's famous guitar lick. Later at 2.24 min. a break starts and lasts about 4 bars/8 sec. However, this break features some of the good 'ole mid 80's orchestral hits, and 3 sampled breakbeats each one of a duration of approx. 3/4 bar. It is not a looped drumbeat 'cause none of them lasts longer than 1 bar. But I heard something, that this song is the first one to use nothing but samples except Jon's voice. Possible, because there are no timing errors (which are of course only human), and it doesn't contain any sound that is not 'samplable', or that could not be a sample. But it's a good song anyway. That's it for now. Bye. cheers, djudge (Roger) destatedestatedestatedestatedestatedestatedestatedestatedestatedestatedestate _____________________________________________________________________________ .....a revolution for change - long live the underground..... vanlunteren@koeln.netsurf.de ____________________________________________________________________________ _ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kjell Elgsaas Subject: Trevors skills and equipment Date: 11 May 1996 06:11:38 -0600 (MDT) Raymond wrote: >quite pleasant to listen to. Although the production is good, I think >the vocals are mixed a bit too loud (sounds as though it was mixed on >headphones which tend to overemphasise the bass). Yeah, Trev probably just mixed the whole album on headphones, his studio monitors are shite, I recon. Poor bastard, I bet even his headphones are crap. Still, can't blame the guy for trying! In time he'll learn from his mistakes and become a quite decent producer. For those with an eye for irony, I salute you... Kjell ___________________________________________________________ Kjell Roll Elgsaas kjelle@max.hint.no http://wwwstud.hint.no/~kjelle ___________________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mark wasiel Subject: ABC re-release Date: 11 May 1996 15:14:00 -0600 (MDT) ABC's first album has been re-released in the UK. The CD (and tape?) have been remastered and the CD includes bonus tracks. The notable bonus tracks are a demo version of "Poison Arrow" (if memory serves correctly) and finally available on CD -- The Theme to Mantrap. The rest of the tracks are remixes and one live version but they are all from a couple of years after Lexicon was released. I'm going to pick up a copy this week and I'll post the details. mark! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: ABC re-release Date: 11 May 1996 19:49:49 -0600 (MDT) > ABC's first album has been re-released in the UK. The CD (and tape?) > have been remastered and the CD includes bonus tracks. The notable > bonus tracks are a demo version of "Poison Arrow" (if memory serves > correctly) and finally available on CD -- The Theme to Mantrap. The > rest of the tracks are remixes and one live version but they are all > from a couple of years after Lexicon was released. > > I'm going to pick up a copy this week and I'll post the details. Here's the scoop: CD: 1996 UK (Mercury; 514942-2) [red-bordered ps; six bonus tracks] 4:02 Show Me 3:24 Poison Arrow 3:57 Many Happy Returns 3:27 Tears Are Not Enough 3:40 Valentine's Day 3:26 The Look Of Love (part one) 3:50 Date Stamp 5:16 All Of My Heart 5:34 4 Ever 2 Gether 0:58 The Look Of Love (part four) [bonus tracks:] 3:29 Tears Are Not Enough (demo) 6:54 Poison Arrow (re-mix) ["jazz re-mix"] 5:43 The Look Of Love (special remix - edit) ["1990 re-mix"] 8:03 Alphabet Soup (extended version) ["12" mix"] 4:15 Theme From "Man-Trap" 6:14 The Look Of Love (live at boston metro, 17 dec 82) The sound quality of the album itself is notably improved over my old copy but they misnamed a number of the mixes which made the bonus tracks look little more attractive than they turned out to be. This pressing seems to be going for pretty cheap though, so it's probably worth the upgrade . . . -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: goedseels.bouillon@skynet.be Subject: Re: ABC re-release Date: 13 May 1996 08:18:49 -0700 Hi, ABC's first album has been re-released in the UK. The CD (and tape?) have been >remastered and the CD includes bonus tracks. The notable bonus tracks are >a demo >version of "Poison Arrow" (if memory serves correctly) and finally >available on >CD -- The Theme to Mantrap. This last one has already been released on CD in "ABC 1 or 2" on UK Pickwick label. Emmanuel Emmanuel Goedseels goedseels.bouillon@skynet.be ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Raymond A. Koh" Subject: Re: Trevors skills and equipment Date: 13 May 1996 11:06:10 +0100 I NEVER said it was bad. The thing I found most disconcerting was the fact that the mixing sounded quite amateurish. It's just that if you're a poor student like me (sob,sob) and can't afford nice stereo equipment, then the album doesn't sound that good. On headphones it sounds great. In any case, our Trev did not mix it. Goodbye. Love and hugs, Raymond A. Koh ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John_Thobois@atlmug.org (John Thobois) Subject: Re: Re: ABC re-release Date: 13 May 1996 17:36:22 GMT Does anybody know where I can get the ABC 2 compilation? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: Re: ABC re-release Date: 13 May 1996 13:48:06 -0600 (MDT) >> The notable bonus tracks are a demo version of "Poison Arrow" (if >> memory serves correctly) and finally available on CD -- The Theme to >> Mantrap. > > This last one has already been released on CD in "ABC 1 or 2" on UK > Pickwick label. I know we're getting alittle far afield here, but if anyone on the list has the ABC compilation CDs called 1 or 2, can you please email me the pertinent catalog/track/time info for the ABC discography? -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rawls@pipeline.com Subject: Re: ztt-digest Digest V96 #17 Date: 14 May 1996 00:05:57 GMT unsubscribe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mike Brown Subject: Re: JJ Lives! Date: 14 May 1996 07:10:29 -0700 (PDT) Mark- Art of Silence released a single called 'West Four' a while ago (I think) but I don't know anyone who actually has a copy! There was an AOS release party recently at which JJ supposedly did play live. A friend of a friend went to it. On a local radio station yesterday afternoon 2 members of Modern English were in the studio. In response to the DJ's question, "What else have you been working on besides Modern English?" (paraphrasing), one of the bandmembers (don't ask me which one) mentioned, among other things, having collaborated with Gary Langan from the Art of Noise. No details were mentioned. Does anyone know anything more about this? Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: AOS & JJ email Date: 14 May 1996 10:16:39 -0600 (MDT) > Has anyone gotten any response to email send to jj's email address as > stated on the AOS still-not-very-operational homepage? I have. -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Joerg Fitzner" Subject: Re: ABC re-release Date: 14 May 1996 18:44:20 -0600 On May 13, 1:48pm, Lazlo Nibble wrote: > Subject: Re: ABC re-release > > > [...] > > I know we're getting alittle far afield here, but if anyone on the list > has the ABC compilation CDs called 1 or 2, can you please email me the > pertinent catalog/track/time info for the ABC discography? Hey, Lazlo! I know a good ABC discography, which enlists both this compilations - complete with tracklisting and cat.nos (PWKS 4111P/4132P)!!! It's maintained by a guy called 'Lazlo Nibble' and can be found under ;-) Don't let those discographies drive you crazy! Joerg ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Raymond A. Koh" Subject: JJ lives.....or does he??? Date: 14 May 1996 17:55:12 +0100 The address I have for the AOS also has not given me any replies. I have some release info for the album though. It is going to be released 10th June 1996 in the UK. 2CDs. More as it comes.Goodbye. Love and hugs, Raymond A. Koh ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Raymond A. Koh" Subject: Re: ABC re-release Date: 14 May 1996 17:49:00 +0100 Hey, Lazlo! I know a good ABC discography, which enlists both this compilations - complete with tracklisting and cat.nos (PWKS 4111P/4132P)!!! It's maintained by a guy called 'Lazlo Nibble' and can be found under ;-) Don't let those discographies drive you crazy! Joerg Nice One Goodbye. Love and hugs, Raymond A. Koh ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Joerg Fitzner" Subject: Re: AOS & JJ email Date: 14 May 1996 19:23:27 -0600 On May 14, 10:16am, Lazlo Nibble wrote: > Subject: AOS & JJ email > > Has anyone gotten any response to email send to jj's email address as > > stated on the AOS still-not-very-operational homepage? > > I have. And...? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: Re: ABC re-release Date: 14 May 1996 13:36:51 -0600 (MDT) >> if anyone on the list has the ABC compilation CDs called 1 or 2, can >> you please email me the pertinent catalog/track/time info for the ABC >> discography? > > I know a good ABC discography, which enlists both this compilations - > complete with tracklisting and cat.nos (PWKS 4111P/4132P)!!! It's > maintained by a guy called 'Lazlo Nibble'... Yeah yeah yeah, I get the point. :-) -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: Re: AOS & JJ email Date: 14 May 1996 13:39:03 -0600 (MDT) >>> Has anyone gotten any response to email send to jj's email address as >>> stated on the AOS still-not-very-operational homepage? >> >> I have. > > And...? Nothing substantive, I just sent mail to the address asking when the full site would be hooked up and JJ wrote back that it'd be a week or two. (Of course this was nearly two months ago. :-) -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mark wasiel Subject: gary langan Date: 14 May 1996 14:57:09 -0600 (MDT) Does anyone know what Gary Langan has been doing since he left the Art of Noise. He was a great engineer! The only thing I have him on is PIL's Happy album which I think he produced also. mark ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marshall Dickson Subject: unsubscribe Date: 14 May 1996 17:40:18 -0400 unsubscribe -- audio, Marshall Dickson 24 HR. SERVICE STATION http://24HR.com hour24@ix.netcom.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mike Brown Subject: Re: AOS & JJ email Date: 14 May 1996 15:06:29 -0700 (PDT) > Nothing substantive, I just sent mail to the address asking when the full > site would be hooked up and JJ wrote back that it'd be a week or two. > (Of course this was nearly two months ago. :-) Well, here's something for the trainspotter in you, then. I did an AltaVista search for "art of silence" and found a couple more references to releases: A DJ in England charted "West Four" by Art of Silence, on the Axiomatic label, in a November 1995 listing. Several DJs in England charted "Giant Within" by Art of Silence (white label). "Giant Within" was listed in the March 13, 1996 Secret Tunes Club newsletter as being due out on March 25th. One mail order shop says on their April listing that you might be able to order the promo from them. Check URL http://www.connect.org.uk/merseymall/3beat/ I went ahead and wrote to them to see if they have anything left. Several mail order record shops in England list a new 12" single titled either "Giant" or "The Giant" by Art of Silence, on the Permanent label, catalog # AX 002, distributed by Amato. The best listing I saw was dated April 15, 1996, at http://www.bogo.co.uk/dmusic/all15-4-96.htm (not a mail order company, just a new release listing service). A design company called ThinkElectric apparently did the cover art for the album. Check the image in their portfolio at: http://www.thinkelectric.com/Portfolio.html Off-list, but for Lazlo: Something new by System 7: I saw this in one of those DJ charts: 'NO NO NO SYS 7 REMIX' by RACHID TAHA, on MANGO ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John_Thobois@atlmug.org (John Thobois) Subject: Re: gary langan Date: 15 May 1996 05:37:02 GMT Gary Langan mixed Billy Idol's "Whiplash Smile," produced Spandau Ballet "Through the Barracades" (don't remember if he engineered) and Belouis Some "Belouis Some" (engineered.) I think he did some work with the Divinyls. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John_Thobois@atlmug.org (John Thobois) Subject: Re: Re: gary langan Date: 15 May 1996 05:59:47 GMT Langan also produced Hipsway "Hipsway" and a couple of tracks on The The's "Infected." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Till Teuber" Subject: (Fwd) Re: Holly & Vangelis Date: 15 May 1996 12:43:42 +100 Forwarded message: > If he's written anything with Vangelis is hasn't been released yet... We > can only wait and see... Vangelis' last album Voices featured many guest > vocalists, such as Paul Young, Caroline Lavelle and Stina Nordenstam. > So it would not seem unlikely that a colaboration with Holly also can be > realized... > I certainly hope Holly will release a full album soon... Legendary > Children was great fun, and Love & Hate with Sakamoto was good, but I > want more... > > Love to the fgth fans... you know who you are! > > Kjell Referring to the catalog `House of Holly' , he has been working together with Vangelis in 1990 on a song. So this song must have been released until now. Perhaps Holly didn't do the vocals on that song. Holly also recorded in 1990 "Love me tender" for the Elvis anniversery on NME-sampler! Has anyone of you out there got this Sampler??? Take care. Till ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tob@ramboll.dk Subject: Re: (Fwd) Re: Holly & Vangelis Date: 15 May 1996 04:56:03 -0600 (MDT) I have it - and it's a lonely quite version - very Holly. It starts with a simple octave-builded synth octave and then Holly's voice takes over. First humming then singing. The rest of the double CD is very mixed - some rough - some pop, but anyway a bunch of great artists singing Elvis. - Torben ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ >Message was resent -- Original recipients were: Holly also recorded in 1990 "Love me tender" for the Elvis anniversery on NME-sampler! Has anyone of you out there got this Sampler??? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Raymond A. Koh" Subject: Date: 16 May 1996 10:51:36 +0100 On Dr. Mabuse....... "Tell him your dreams, and for ?????? your needs" What's the missing word? Goodbye. Love and hugs, Raymond A. Koh ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: Mabuse Date: 16 May 1996 11:27:04 -0600 (MDT) > "Tell him your dreams, and for ?????? your needs" I always heard this as "Tell him your dreams / And fanatical needs" but wouldn't get into a fistfight over it. -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Geoff Davies" Subject: Re: Dr Mabuse Date: 16 May 1996 18:20:28 -0700 --Boundary-4909457-0-0 The Japanese Secret Wish CD (WPCR-20) has the lyrics printed and it is: "Tell him your dreams And forget the means He's buying them all with cash" Geoff. --Boundary-4909457-0-0 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Reply-to: r.a.koh@sheffield.ac.uk X-Orcl-Application: Resent-Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 03:49:45 -0600 (MDT) X-Orcl-Application: Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 X-Orcl-Application: Resent-Message-Id: <"znEkPC.A.HUH.Unvmx"@mail> X-Orcl-Application: Resent-From: ztt@xmission.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/159 X-Loop: ztt@xmission.com X-Orcl-Application: Precedence: list X-Orcl-Application: Resent-Sender: ztt-request@xmission.com On Dr. Mabuse....... "Tell him your dreams, and for ?????? your needs" What's the missing word? Goodbye. Love and hugs, Raymond A. Koh --Boundary-4909457-0-0-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Geoff Davies" Subject: TCH on VH-1 Date: 19 May 1996 19:00:18 -0700 Trevor Horn was on the VH-1's "Where are they now?" slot. The piece was obviously based around the Buggles "Video killed..." song and they showed him at a recording studio - Sarm I presume. They said he is currently working with Cher. This brings up another point. He seems to be doing a lot of work with some very mainstream performers such as Rod Stewart, Tom Jones and now Cher. Will we see another FGTH or Propaganda from him again? Geoff. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Raymond A. Koh" Subject: Re: TCH on VH-1 Date: 20 May 1996 12:33:38 +0100 I think I once read an interview with TCH once saying that as he gets older, he wants to work with more experienced musicians, thus the tendency to work with these mainstream performers, perhaps. Goodbye. Love and hugs, Raymond A. Koh ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bortz@postoffice.ptd.net (J Bortz) Subject: Andrew Poppy Date: 20 May 1996 20:12:43 -0400 (EDT) I have the Andrew Poppy "The Amusement" 12" that I picked up a few weeks ago. I'd like to trade it. I am looking for any singles by 808 State. If you have any and want to trade, please E Mail me! The Poppy single is in great shape! Thanks. Cheers, Josh ______ | ___ `\ Josh Bortz aka (bortz@ptd.net) =20 | | | | =20 | | M | | - Zang Tumb Tuum - | `---` / ______________________________________ | |~~~~` | | |_| A C | "the dark religions are departed | | and sweet Science reigns" | H I N | | | - Claudia Br=81cken | E R Y |______________________________________| ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bortz@postoffice.ptd.net (J Bortz) Subject: Propaganda / KINO Date: 21 May 1996 01:13:04 -0400 (EDT) I recently got my hands on this single... Kino: Room In My Heart [1985] single 12": 1985 GE (Chrysalis; 608 148) 5:42 (Big) Room In My Heart 3:24 Ugh, Ugh... 3:54 Room In My Heart (instrumental) [with Sarah Gregory] I know its rare, but I'm willing to trade it. Here is my want list... 808 State: UK Pacific cd3" 808 State: US Pacific promo cd5 808 State: JP Cubic / Olympic cd5 808 State: UK Newbuild 12" =20 Propaganda: JP P Machinery cd3" Propaganda: JP DR Mabuse cd3" ACT: UK Moonlighting Mixes promo 12" ACT: UK Absolutely Immune II 12" ACT: UK Chance 7" Nasty Rox: UK Escape From New York 7" Nasty Rox: UK CASH cd5 If you have any of these items and are willing to trade, please let me= know! Cheers, Josh :)=20 =20 ______ | ___ `\ Josh Bortz aka (bortz@ptd.net) =20 | | | | =20 | | M | | - Zang Tumb Tuum - | `---` / ______________________________________ | |~~~~` | | |_| A C | "the dark religions are departed | | and sweet Science reigns" | H I N | | | - Claudia Br=81cken | E R Y |______________________________________| ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjschill@students.wisc.edu (Paul Schilling) Subject: Re: TCH on VH-1 Date: 21 May 1996 10:01:42 -0500 >They said he is currently working with Cher. This brings up another point. >He seems to be doing a lot of work with some very mainstream performers such >as Rod Stewart, Tom Jones, Tina Turner and now Cher. I see some interesting parallels between the people he's been producing lately. They're all 'older' ex-superstars that got their fame in the mid-late seventies, they all seem to still have a youthful energy, despite their age, and they all have rough, wailing voices (except Cher maybe, I don't know her stuff that well, but Seal falls into this category as well). Maybe it's just doing rock and roll for 25+ years that brings you fame, energy and a rough voice? paul ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: Trevors skills and equipment Date: 21 May 1996 18:08:36 -0600 On May 13, 11:06am, Raymond A. Koh wrote: > Subject: Re: Trevors skills and equipment > > I NEVER said it was bad. The thing I found most disconcerting was > the fact that the mixing sounded quite amateurish. [...] > In any case, our Trev did not mix it. It might very well be the case, that he doesn't care about the mixing anymore. But yet, the producer is responsible for the whole sound at all. He (and especially Trevor) can pick any engineer/mixer in the world. So: If it sounds cheesy, he's the one to blame for it - because he'd have the power to change it! ...for those with the understanding of bitterness, I thank you... Joerg ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: ABC re-release Date: 21 May 1996 18:14:16 -0600 On May 11, 7:49pm, Lazlo Nibble wrote: > Subject: ABC re-release > <...> > CD: 1996 UK (Mercury; 514942-2) [red-bordered ps; six bonus tracks] > <...> > [bonus tracks:] > 3:29 Tears Are Not Enough (demo) > <...> May this perhaps be the original (Steve Brown produced) single version of it? Greetings Joerg ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Joerg Fitzner" Subject: Re: Mabuse Lyrics Date: 21 May 1996 18:54:02 -0600 On May 16, 11:27am, Lazlo Nibble wrote: > Subject: Mabuse > > "Tell him your dreams, and for ?????? your needs" > > I always heard this as "Tell him your dreams / And fanatical needs" but > wouldn't get into a fistfight over it. On May 16, 6:20pm, Geoff Davies wrote: > Subject: Re: Dr Mabuse > > The Japanese Secret Wish CD (WPCR-20) has the lyrics printed and it is: > "Tell him your dreams > And forget the means > He's buying them all with cash" I guess that's more or less a joke of the one who _transcribed_ the lyrics! In fact, the inlay sheet of the japanese 7" (as well as the CD3 reissue) tell it exactly like Lazlo understood it. And I'd say this phrase makes some sense even! BTW, similar inconsistencies exist with the japanese listing of Relax lyrics. Sometimes (rarely) they put it "... suck it...". But mostly they state it as "... sock it..."! :-) Bye Joerg ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Joerg Fitzner" Subject: Re: TCH on VH-1 Date: 21 May 1996 19:51:19 -0600 On May 20, 12:33pm, Raymond A. Koh wrote: > Subject: Re: TCH on VH-1 > I think I once read an interview with TCH once saying that as he gets > older, he wants to work with more experienced musicians, thus the > tendency to work with these mainstream performers, perhaps. Yes, I have the same impression. But I think it's getting boring! The more interesting productions he did in the last time (which I know) were always released on ZTT, btw! (e.g. Seal, Tom Jones, GMD) Greetings Joerg P.S.: To be fair, I must admit I've neither heard his Cher tracks, nor did I listen to the whole Tina Turner album... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Geoff Davies" Subject: RE: Mabuse Lyrics Date: 21 May 1996 11:07:20 -0700 --Boundary-4965352-0-0 I must admit that I had another look at the other lyrics listed in the Japanese release and they are a little hockie/dodgy. Some of them are outrageously wrong. I always thought it was: "Tell him your Dreams and forever needs" Geoff. --Boundary-4965352-0-0 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Reply-to: fitzner@informatik.uni-bonn.de X-Orcl-Application: Resent-Date: Tue, 21 May 1996 10:58:45 -0600 (MDT) X-Orcl-Application: In-Reply-To: "Lazlo Nibble" X-Orcl-Application: In-Reply-To: "Mabuse" (May 16, 11:27am) X-Orcl-Application: References: <199605161727.LAA12069@kitsune.swcp.com> X-Orcl-Application: Fave: ZTT X-Orcl-Application: Tune-Of-The-Week: Lionrock / Death Valley Clapperboard X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.2 10apr95 MediaMail) X-Orcl-Application: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Orcl-Application: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Orcl-Application: Resent-Message-Id: <"Z-uBIB.A.ewD.GVfox"@xmission> X-Orcl-Application: Resent-From: ztt@xmission.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/169 X-Loop: ztt@xmission.com X-Orcl-Application: Precedence: list X-Orcl-Application: Resent-Sender: ztt-request@xmission.com On May 16, 11:27am, Lazlo Nibble wrote: > Subject: Mabuse > > "Tell him your dreams, and for ?????? your needs" > > I always heard this as "Tell him your dreams / And fanatical needs" but > wouldn't get into a fistfight over it. On May 16, 6:20pm, Geoff Davies wrote: > Subject: Re: Dr Mabuse > > The Japanese Secret Wish CD (WPCR-20) has the lyrics printed and it is: > "Tell him your dreams > And forget the means > He's buying them all with cash" I guess that's more or less a joke of the one who _transcribed_ the lyrics! In fact, the inlay sheet of the japanese 7" (as well as the CD3 reissue) tell it exactly like Lazlo understood it. And I'd say this phrase makes some sense even! BTW, similar inconsistencies exist with the japanese listing of Relax lyrics. Sometimes (rarely) they put it "... suck it...". But mostly they state it as "... sock it..."! :-) Bye Joerg --Boundary-4965352-0-0-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Joerg Fitzner" Subject: 808 Questions Date: 21 May 1996 20:37:34 -0600 Hello, I stumbled over two questions about 808 State recently, which I hope someone of you knows more about: - In the booklet accompanying that "From Manchester With Love.net" compilation there's a list of their 'favourite collaborations' (like Quincy Jones, etc). This also includes: "Tom Jones - Love Can't Turn Around"!!! I have never heard about such a song! - A friend sent me a 12" by a Manchester band called 'Social Kaos'. It's called the "Free-Style E.P." and is from 1990. On the backsleeve it's written: '(Graham Massey appers' - and then breaks off without even closing the bracket! I like the record - does anyone know something about Graham Massey's involvement in this? Greetings Joerg P.S.: I have already sent this questions to <808state@feedback.com>, but they didn't reply! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Roland Metzger <76113.2741@CompuServe.COM> Subject: Re: 808 Questions Date: 21 May 1996 17:13:18 EDT 1. Regarding the Tom Jones -Love can't turn around 808 mix.... I think that I have seen this item at the Record Exchange in Manchester, but didn't buy it because the 808 Connection wasn't visible from the plain black sleeve. It just had this big fat sticker on the top saying TOM JONES - Love can't turn around...... too bad I didn't buy it. PS: In retrospect I first thought this was the "Kiss" or something 12", but now..upon seeing the name of this 808 Mix in your post..I'm pretty sure that this was what I saw... 2. The Social Kaos issue might be answered by 808 Authority Markus Arnold from the Netherlands..Markus, any thoughts about this one you can share with us? Shed some light! Roland ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christopher Stack" Subject: Wendy&Lisa Date: 21 May 1996 14:36:00 -0800 Does anyone know what they're up to now? I know they did the score for Dangerous Minds (is it available? The soundtrack only has the songs and their song from the first album) and I have the Toys soundtrack. I'm hoping Trevor will produce a new album of theirs. I think that would be great. So, anyone know if they are in fact working on a new album? Or are they just doing soundtrack work now? Christopher Stack - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - "Sometimes the majority just means that all the fools are on the same side." - Anonymous ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: markus@euronet.nl (Markus_Arnold) Subject: 808 Questions Date: 22 May 1996 00:30:13 +0200 (MET DST) Hi Joerg >- A friend sent me a 12" by a Manchester band called 'Social Kaos'. It's > called the "Free-Style E.P." and is from 1990. On the backsleeve it's > written: '(Graham Massey appers' - and then breaks off without even closing > the bracket! > I like the record - does anyone know something about Graham Massey's > involvement in this? Sorry, I can't help with the 'Social Kaos' question either. I'd be interested to know too... >P.S.: I have already sent this questions to <808state@feedback.com>, > but they didn't reply! e-mail to <808state@feedback.com> gets 'screened' by feedback employees who answer the questions in the name of 808 State as a favour to 808 State. Unfortunately, they don't always answer... Of course 808 are pretty busy at the moment with the release of the new album and the promotional free gig on 21st June. "I was born in the North and I live in the North and I'll die in the North." Markus markus@euronet.nl ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: Re: ABC re-release Date: 21 May 1996 16:46:36 -0600 (MDT) >> 3:29 Tears Are Not Enough (demo) > > May this perhaps be the original (Steve Brown produced) single version of it? Possibly, though I don't know enough about the song's history to say for sure. This is not some cassette-tape-recorder-on-the-coffee-table demo; it sounds relatively produced and I can see it being released on an indie or something. I'll check the liner notes of the CD when I get a chance. -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ETDidier@aol.com Subject: Re: RE: Mabuse Lyrics Date: 21 May 1996 23:01:58 -0400 this is interesting to discuss our subjective interpretations of the lyrics. the japanese are notorious for coming up with wacky interpretations for liner notes. the best must be the cocteau twins, who they attempted to translate with such phrases like "i don't mend no fence" and some other reference to mud wrestling that i can't remember. hehehe. i always thought in dr mabuse it was: "tell him your dreams and for net the needs he's buying them all...with cash" we should write to one of the members and ask for the actual lyrics. it would be interesting to know. all my best, thomas etdidier@aol.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bortz@postoffice.ptd.net (J Bortz) Subject: Mabuse Lyrics Date: 22 May 1996 01:08:28 -0400 (EDT) Ok, I think everyone is confused with the Mabuse lyrics and no one seems to know if the Japanese lyrics are correct or not. I have the JP cd of A secret Wish and some of the lyrics ARE NOT correct. So, I found the lyrics of Dr. Mabuse that someone from the U.S. wrote a long time ago and these lyrics seem correct to me. At least they make sence... "Tell him your dreams and FORGET your needs. He's buying them all with cash"... I myself can't agree with the JP incerts! Cheers, Josh ______ | ___ `\ Josh Bortz aka (bortz@ptd.net) =20 | | | | =20 | | M | | - Zang Tumb Tuum - | `---` / ______________________________________ | |~~~~` | | |_| A C | "the dark religions are departed | | and sweet Science reigns" | H I N | | | - Claudia Br=81cken | E R Y |______________________________________| ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: goedseels.bouillon@skynet.be Subject: Propaganda for sale Date: 23 May 1996 20:09:21 -0700 Hello, By a misunderstanding, I have two copies of Propaganda's "A Secret Wish" - CD Japanese edition with 4 extra tracks. If I want to keep one copy for me, I would like to sell the other one. It is of course in mint condition and, I've been told, nearly deleted in Japan. Interested ? Please e-mail me personnaly :; goedseels.bouillon@skynet.be Regards Emmanuel Emmanuel Goedseels goedseels.bouillon@skynet.be ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bortz@postoffice.ptd.net (J Bortz) Subject: Kino/Poppy Date: 23 May 1996 23:21:03 -0400 (EDT) I am selling these 2 items. Prices are... 20.00 for KINO and 10.00 for Andrew Poppy. Please E Mail me if interested! KINO features Andreas Thein from Propaganda. =20 Kino: Room In My Heart [1985] single 12": 1985 GE (Chrysalis; 608 148) 5:42 (Big) Room In My Heart 3:24 Ugh, Ugh... 3:54 Room In My Heart (instrumental) [with Sarah Gregory] Andrew Poppy: The Amusement [2 Mar 1987] single 12": 1987 UK (ZTT; 12 ZTPS 03) 7:35 The Amusement (12) 4:50 Kink Konk Presto 5:55 East Fragment 6:11 Kink Konk Adagio Cheers, Josh ______ | ___ `\ Josh Bortz aka (bortz@ptd.net) =20 | | | | =20 | | M | | - Zang Tumb Tuum - | `---` / ______________________________________ | |~~~~` | | |_| A C | "the dark religions are departed | | and sweet Science reigns" | H I N | | | - Claudia Br=81cken | E R Y |______________________________________| ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: d-sunjan@jmk.su.se (Jan Sundstrom) Subject: Mabuse lyrics abused Date: 24 May 1996 16:00:22 +0200 > the japanese are notorious for coming up with wacky interpretations for >liner notes. >we should write to one of the members and ask for the actual lyrics. ' I did that! In fact, i turned up at a Die Krupps gig to show Ralf Dorper my copy of my japanese A Secret Wish LP. He just laughed. In the beginning of the song, the jap's had transcribed the mumbling as "Apple, sir?". All sorts of misinterpretations, he couln't even bother to correct 'em all. Jan Sundstrom "Jag har betalat livet i porto Ett brev betyder sa mycket" Arvid Tuba - 'En sorts parodi' ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: av578@lafn.org (James Dawson) Subject: Re: Kino/Poppy Date: 24 May 1996 08:35:56 -0700 The appearance of some Andrew Poppy-related messages here raises the obvious question: What has Poppy been doing over the past ten years? Has he released any music since his ZTT days? (As always, I'm also dying to find out whatever became of Anne Pigalle. I loved her ZTT stuff -- which consisted of only one album and two singles, so far as I know -- but I've never seen anything else by her since then. Does ANYONE know where she's been all this time? Is she now an elegantly bored Parisian wife and mother? Did she abandon her musical muse to pursue a career in quantum physics? Has she been quietly perfecting a cure for cancer in some isolated Lithuanian research laboratory? Just curious...) --James Dawson av578@lafn.org -------------Standard Fine Print Department----------- E-mail is VERY unreliable. If you send e-mail to me and don't get a response within three days, please assume that your message never made it to my computer and send it again. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: av578@lafn.org (James Dawson) Subject: Anne Pigalle, Where Are You? Date: 24 May 1996 08:40:12 -0700 Oops -- just realized that I sent out my last message with the misleading subject line "Re: Kino/Poppy." Just in case anyone with knowledge about Anne Pigalle skipped right over that one, I've repeated the Pigalle-related portion of the message here: As always, I'm also dying to find out whatever became of Anne Pigalle. I loved her ZTT stuff -- which consisted of only one album and two singles, so far as I know -- but I've never seen anything else by her since then. Does ANYONE know where she's been all this time? Is she now an elegantly bored Parisian wife and mother? Did she abandon her musical muse to pursue a career in quantum physics? Has she been quietly perfecting a cure for cancer in some isolated Lithuanian research laboratory? Just curious... --James Dawson av578@lafn.org -------------Standard Fine Print Department----------- E-mail is VERY unreliable. If you send e-mail to me and don't get a response within three days, please assume that your message never made it to my computer and send it again. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dclegg@electriciti.com (dan clegg) Subject: Re: Kino/Poppy Date: 24 May 1996 09:29:37 -0700 >The appearance of some Andrew Poppy-related messages here raises the obvious >question: What has Poppy been doing over the past ten years? Has he released >any music since his ZTT days? He just recently released "Ophelia" which I'm still trying to find! Anybody have it yet? Also, the CD "Recordings" was released a couple of years back, although not associated with ZTT. --dan dan clegg no microsoft products were used dclegg@electriciti.com in the creation or transmission http://www.electriciti.com/~dclegg of this message ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Joerg Fitzner" Subject: Re: 808 Questions Date: 24 May 1996 17:17:15 +0000 On May 21, 5:13pm, Roland Metzger wrote: > Subject: Re: 808 Questions > > 1. Regarding the Tom Jones -Love can't turn around 808 mix.... > > I think that I have seen this item at the Record Exchange in Manchester, but > didn't buy it because the 808 Connection wasn't visible from the plain black > sleeve. It just had this big fat sticker on the top saying TOM JONES - Love > can't turn around...... too bad I didn't buy it. > > PS: In retrospect I first thought this was the "Kiss" or something 12", but > now..upon seeing the name of this 808 Mix in your post..I'm pretty sure that > this was what I saw... To quote Tom Jones: "I Don't Think So"... Sorry - of course you could be right - but I can imagine that it's been the "Love Is On Our Side" 2*12" promo (SAM 1522) that you've seen. This has been in a plain black sleeve with a big title-sticker on it, which has a dark-blue background with yellow titeling. The record doesn't credit the remixers, but none of the mix-names look like, and none of the versions sound like being remixed by 808 State... Bye Bye Joerg ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Joerg Fitzner" Subject: Re: 808 Questions Date: 24 May 1996 18:40:40 +0000 On May 22, 12:30am, Markus_Arnold wrote: > Subject: 808 Questions > > [...] > > >P.S.: I have already sent this questions to <808state@feedback.com>, > > but they didn't reply! > > e-mail to <808state@feedback.com> gets 'screened' by feedback employees who > answer the questions in the name of 808 State as a favour to 808 State. > Unfortunately, they don't always answer... Of course 808 are pretty busy at > the moment with the release of the new album and the promotional free gig on > 21st June. So?! I guess, we have all had a feeling that all those internetty stars are not really answering 'their' e-mail personally (at least not every mail). And I can very much understand that they don't want to bother with that 'work' too much. Moreover, a good tune of such an artist gives me much more than a superficial letter. But what's really pissing me off is, that some of them (and 808 is an example) are not honest about it. They always try to appear as if they're having everything under control, but then it turns out that they have either been fooled by the euphoria of internet-hype or have simply lied and are fooling us. (BTW, what about the promised flyers for 'statetostate' subscribers? Not that I'm angry about it - I just want to point out how carelessly they are behaving.) > "I was born in the North and I live in the North and I'll die in the North." "my brother called my up... he said I need a lawyer..." The Wolfgang Press: GOING SOUTH -Joerg P.S.: Forgive me for beeing too critical again ;-) This isn't meant offensive. I hope it's rather beeing understood as cunstructive criticism. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: DISCOGRAPHY URL CHANGE - PLEASE READ! Date: 30 May 1996 23:28:09 -0600 (MDT) (I'm sending copies of this to each mailing list for whose artist I maintain a discography. Sorry if anyone gets multiple copies of this message!) I've written and installed a new package called Lazlo's Discography Machine, which anyone interested in accessing the discography should use from now on. The main entry point is at: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discog.pl and to get to the ZTT discography directly, you can use http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discog.pl?discog=ztt Please update any bookmarks and/or links you may have on your pages -- the old link to http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Discographies.html is now just a forwarding page and I plan to disable the ftp:// URL soon (swcp.com is busy enough that you can't always get through anyway). -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo)